[09:31:57] <choikino>	 hi im kino
[09:32:16] <choikino>	 what is wiki
[09:32:23] <choikino>	 what is toad?
[09:32:40] <choikino>	 how to use this chatting app?
[09:46:46] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 So leszek is not here? :-(
[09:49:56] <hoo>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q221209&type=revision&diff=571828909&oldid=553534963
[09:49:59] <hoo>	 argh
[09:50:10] * hoo cries
[09:50:30] <hoo>	 I don't even want to know how many of these we have
[09:51:41] <Lucas_WMDE>	 apparently it’s intentional? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/JoRobot_2
[09:52:25] <hoo>	 ouch
[09:53:08] <Lucas_WMDE>	 also, is it intentional that the wikilink is actually rendered (redlink) in the edit summary?
[09:53:46] <hoo>	 no… we apparently don't properly wfEscapeWikitext this
[09:54:14] <hoo>	 although I don't think we want full wikitext escaping as the summary does not actually use wikitext
[09:54:20] <hoo>	 it just parses links
[10:10:02] <hoo>	 so we have 17253 media legends w/o "[[" and "just" 3951 with wikitext
[10:10:04] <hoo>	 grr
[14:14:20] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Amir1: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172914
[18:15:23] <yurik>	 Jonas_WMDE, SMalyshev, I think we really need to start using a "npm start" when developing WDQS - this way we can auto-compile .less files, use babel and other tech. Forcing development in a file:// mode is IMO a big mistake - its like forcing users to use Java 1.1 just because Microsoft had some good libs for it
[18:26:24] <eranroz>	 DanielK_WMDE: I didn't understand your point regarding fineGrainedLuaTracking. do you just suggest to have a negative instead of positive flag? 
[18:27:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 eranroz: no. I mean that if it's disabled, we must *not* track label usage, etc.
[18:27:25] <DanielK_WMDE>	 maybe i missed something?
[18:27:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it seems to me like it would still be tracking them when disabled. the only difference is that it then also tracks X
[18:28:16] <eranroz>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/371651/9/client/includes/DataAccess/Scribunto/mw.wikibase.entity.lua line 114 should do it
[18:29:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 oh, you disable the masking altogether!
[18:29:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i was looking for a conditional in the tracking methods
[18:29:25] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ok, great!
[18:29:39] <eranroz>	 OK. anyway it is good idea to have unitest for the other mode to validate it
[18:29:40] <DanielK_WMDE>	 then my only complaint is that the tests don't test both modes
[18:30:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 unit tests should ideally be independent of the local config, and test all relevant configurations.
[18:30:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 mediawiki doesn't make this very easy, though
[18:30:54] <eranroz>	 with provider?
[18:31:16] <DanielK_WMDE>	 that's probably the simplest way, yes
[18:59:01] <eranroz>	 is it possible to set php configurations from Lua unitest? 
[19:00:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 eranroz: i have no idea
[19:49:13] <MrWikipedia>	 !admin
[19:49:27] <sjoerddebruin>	 Yes?
[19:49:45] <MrWikipedia>	 I wish to be unblocked
[19:50:18] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, you changed usernames.
[19:50:25] <MrWikipedia>	 Because of this person https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz
[19:51:38] <MrWikipedia>	 Look in his talk
[19:51:48] <MrWikipedia>	 he don’t have my ip on it
[19:54:22] <MrWikipedia>	 Ok please unblock me
[20:09:21] <Jonas_WMDE>	 yurik I am open for using it
[20:10:55] <yurik>	 Jonas_WMDE, could you +2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/383774/
[20:11:26] <yurik>	 i'm not sure what to do with the .css - i'm not a big fan of checking in the compiler results
[20:12:07] <Jonas_WMDE>	 maybe a watcher can be a compromise
[20:12:25] <Jonas_WMDE>	 so one can still use file:// but less is compiled to css by watcher
[20:12:59] <WikidataFacts>	 I would very much appreciate it if you would not +2 that without giving me a chance to respond to the feedback -.-
[20:13:30] <Jonas_WMDE>	 I was just about to propose to talk to you tomorrow :)
[20:13:35] <WikidataFacts>	 thanks :)
[20:14:15] <yurik>	 Jonas_WMDE, sure, but I think we should do it as part of the general overhaul to restructe it as a modern app
[20:15:05] <yurik>	 e.g. we shouldn't explicitly list all the dependencies in a global file, but auto-compile it. something like that
[20:15:31] <yurik>	 WikidataFacts, you have some suggestions?
[20:16:20] <Lucas_WMDE>	 'sup
[20:18:15] <Lucas_WMDE>	 I’ll reply on Gerrit
[20:21:02] <yurik>	 thx. Btw, we could try https://www.npmjs.com/package/babel-watch
[20:33:03] <sjoerddebruin>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8524 is another item that is missing from the search results hoo|away 
[20:40:50] <sjoerddebruin>	 Amir1 you might be interested as well, Marius couldn't find the cause last time.
[20:41:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 Editing helps, but I'll wait a while.
[22:22:51] <vmpire>	 Hey, how were the Q and P numbers decided? Q42 for Douglas Adams is clear. But what about the other numbers?
[22:26:23] <WikidataFacts>	 vmpire: a few Q-numbers were pre-assigned – I don’t know how exactly (that was before my time), but you can see some of them in 127.0.0.1’s contributions https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=127.0.0.1&start=2012-10-01&end=2012-11-01
[22:26:38] <WikidataFacts>	 aside from that, the identifiers are assigned sequentially, in the order that the entities are created
[22:30:31] <vmpire>	 interesting. Thanks, WikidataFacts!