[12:31:32] Can anyone pplease mark https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P627 as an external ID (identifier), instead of string... [16:13:25] hello! any native German speaker who could have an eye on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12313636 ? I tried to translate the German label in English and French but I'm not sure I got it right. Also, is that really a sub-class of genre? thanks in advance :) [18:09:07] Dispatch has been increasing again since 12. https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-dispatch?refresh=1m&orgId=1 [18:39:15] maxlath: help still needed? I'm a native german speaker [18:39:56] Sagan: yes! :) [18:42:35] maxlath: I'd explain the article like this: It says, there are different ways to write articles, neutral articles or articles where the author writes his opinion, like if he criticizes something, that's basically this word. Not sure, if I would describe this as layout, but I don't know a better word [18:45:44] Sagan: maybe "journalistic genre" then? [18:46:06] that would fit the "subclass of genre" claim [18:46:26] and the Danish Wikipedia article title [18:47:05] I'm not sure how to translate Darstellungsform in that case. What the internet translators suppose, "display format" seems not to make sense in that case [18:47:28] but I'd say, genre would fit better [18:52:46] maxlath: ^ [18:52:49] (forgot the ping) [18:55:46] Sagan: cool, thanks! [19:34:03] Does this sound logical? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40853939#P793 [19:36:33] sjoerddebruin: seems fine to me [19:37:02] we don't have a more specific "deportation" item for the Shoah? [19:37:22] this one is about all deportations in history [19:38:14] mmm idk [19:38:33] i found one about the train, but not the deportation [19:38:36] strange [19:38:55] and frankly tonight, I'm not strong enough to clean up data about genocides [19:41:07] True. [19:42:01] It's just that I want to fill items to the maximum. [19:42:09] you are right [19:42:18] and we *should* clean up that data [19:42:21] it's important [19:42:31] I'm just not able to do it tonight [19:43:07] I cleaned up a lot of the "noble families" earlier. GerardM made a mess in 2014. :| [19:43:17] (not surprised) [19:43:40] sjoerddebruin: I wanted to add the scores for the Rostelecom Cup, which ended like two hours ago [19:43:43] But I do think we are bringing a lot of structure to our data recently. [19:44:22] and now, I'm wondering if it would be better if we created "pair" entries, for the pair skaters/ice dancers [19:44:43] because scores go to a pair, you don't keep them if you change partners in competitions [19:45:07] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1706 wouldn't be clear enough of course. [19:45:25] well that was my question [19:46:03] Then you would have double statements or you need to prefer someone over someone else. [19:46:16] should I enter both names in the participants list, with P1706 to link one to the other, or do it the same way the specific databases do, with an item for the pair [19:46:25] I would create pairs. [19:46:42] I was starting to prefer it too [19:47:07] It's not like you dance with someone else each week right? [19:47:18] it would be easier to track changes of coaches, etc. [19:47:27] not for major competitions, you don't [19:47:52] it's really really really rare to change partners during a season [19:48:04] so at most you would change each year [19:48:06] BUT [19:48:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekaterina_Gordeeva_and_Sergei_Grinkov [19:48:21] you need to have decent scores to be seeded for the next year [19:48:30] and score are *by pair* not individual [19:48:45] so no, the major skaters don't change partners frequently [19:49:07] Just do it. :) [19:49:08] yes exactly, we do have some Wikipedia articles for pairs already [19:49:27] That's the first I could find. [19:49:40] I just wanted to check before creating several thousand items ^^ [19:49:43] (old sport) [19:50:01] I'll prepare my script then [19:50:04] thank you :) [19:51:32] Maybe create something more specific to P31 with [19:51:58] I think we have "pair of ice dancers" in Japanese or Russian [19:52:03] I'll check [19:53:08] if not, I'll create it [19:54:00] There is also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1327, you might include that one in your scripts with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805 as qualifier linking to the team or something. [19:54:27] yup [19:54:49] I linked many skaters to their partners these last months [19:54:59] but I have not started adding competition data [19:55:07] I think that would be cleaner than "part of"... [19:55:10] Band members is also all kind of different approaches... [20:28:12] Dispatch is still growing https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-dispatch?refresh=1m&orgId=1 (Lydia_WMDE) [20:28:29] Again, low load on dispatchers. [20:29:13] sjoerddebruin: thanks! will let marius know [21:42:28] lenguaje [23:20:32] help me come my darl n im ean make fukin love meme menst himhum my friend