[03:52:06] Hello [03:52:37] Not sure if anyone is around but would like to ask a question [03:54:54] I am looking for a way (preferably a template on Wikipedia) such that, I put in an item ID and it will return the number of Wikipedia entries [03:55:34] I.e. {{SomeTemplate|473706}} should return 10 as there are 10 Wikipedia entries in Q473706 [03:55:34] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:SomeTemplate [03:56:25] Also not sure if this is the right place to ask - if it is not, then it would be great if anyone could point to the right place for this question. Thank you very much! [05:19:33] pintoch: ping me when you're online... [05:19:41] @pintoch [10:07:54] Hi, whats the best place to ask if set of entries is relevant for the wikidata project? E.g. would it make sence to add all models from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Fritz!Box_devices as own items [10:07:55] ? [10:17:23] andi-m: You can always use the project chat for rather general questions like this [10:17:37] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat [19:46:48] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Using_ranks_for_false_statements [19:47:54] CanI get some input here? [19:57:09] Josve05a: Yeah, don't mess with the taxon people. Those people are scary [19:58:13] Well, I'm trying to bring order, and get (on black and white) tht all statemts are good statements, and hat those taxon people should sh*t up...I'm a taxon person, but on Commons... [19:58:23] that* [19:59:02] I try to use deprecated with care. Not add statements that some random idiot shouted about [19:59:09] If a person is claimed to be a woman by source A, and a male by source B, both statements should be added. Same should apply for taxons [19:59:23] Only include statements that were generally thought to be true and later turned out to be false [19:59:51] No, but if it a souce which we carry statements for, it should be viewed as an accepable source, as to describe what that source states. [20:00:09] source* external identiifer (not statement)* [20:00:23] So yes, a bit of filtering, but where to put this level of including is up for debate. [20:00:34] Amir1: https://mosh.org/ [20:00:53] I use it for incorrect statements and remove the statement after the original database fixed their error (like with gender) [20:01:00] well given that more than one source may claim something (as in my example) should be an accepted "level" [20:01:19] Agree [20:01:42] It's also a good way to prevent people from adding the same wrong statements over and over again [20:01:57] but they claim "those sources are wrong", so we should not include it at all...that is the definition of OR...or am I lost here? [20:02:22] (original research) [20:02:51] (they = the two taxon people who keeps edit warring me) [20:03:01] There is no truth, only sources ;-) [20:03:42] well, not when it comes to taxons, appearently...*grunts* [20:04:46] My experience with people working on taxons is that their worldview is very black & white [20:05:05] And they are not very good and conversations and end up in edit wars all the time [20:06:42] well, if they edit war, they should be bloked, and not rule their corner of WIkidata as mob rule [20:06:52] bloacked* even [20:07:05] blocked*** (so hard to type with just one hand) [20:08:03] if they want to describe what taxons are "valid or not", there is Wikispecies. Wikidata should be about "all the world's data". [20:08:07] One hand? What happened... [20:08:30] (on my phone typing, so only using one hand) [20:09:00] Oh, that's okay. [20:43:33] who is https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/10.68.16.199 ? [20:44:00] labs, maybe? [20:44:54] labs is inside 10.68./16 [20:44:56] https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&hidecategorization=1&limit=50&days=7&urlversion=2 <-- it seems there's a test going on [20:45:30] it's probably that Selenium user [20:45:49] getting logged out [20:53:42] Stryn: I bet it's hashar [20:54:09] ok, I just first thought it's vandalism ;P [20:54:19] or spam whatever [20:54:34] 199.16.68.10.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer integration-slave-jessie-1002.integration.eqiad.wmflabs. [20:55:00] So yes, looks like one of hashar's minions [20:56:49] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Red_Wikipedia_links_and_Wikidata <- input appreciated :-) [21:02:22] Stryn: multichill yeah that is a Jenkins instance. Seems it is running some kind of integration tests against test.wikidata.org [21:02:40] Probably Pywikibot? [21:03:10] I dont think any pywikibot tests are properly running [21:03:26] looks more like some kind of selenium tests being run daily [21:04:43] https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/pywikibot-core-tox-nose-jessie/3769/console <- something is running at least [21:05:33] https://travis-ci.org/magul/pywikibot-core/builds <- but this seems to be very broken again [21:08:09] hashar: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Selenium_user <- LOL [21:09:20] :') [21:10:13] Is this all correct btw? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2800415 [21:20:46] sjoerddebruin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4241 <- huh? That one is new for me! [21:20:57] Yeah, it is new! [21:21:37] Interesting [21:21:45] I have quite a few dates that could use this [21:21:50] Like Summer 1892 [21:21:59] But what if you want to use it with two dates as qualifiers and it only applies to one of them... [21:22:53] Brackets on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40720568 should be dropped [21:23:08] Yeah, I didn't use them for Dutch. [21:23:54] (previously the English descriptions started with a capital letter and ended with a dot...) [21:24:28] And somehow linked with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1314