[13:08:22] <e3928a3bc>	 hello people!
[13:08:22] <e3928a3bc>	 I'm having troube with the encoding of a csv file downloaded from this query http://tinyurl.com/y6uwgtuo
[13:08:22] <e3928a3bc>	 what should the encoding be? neither utf-8, utf-16 nor latin1 seem to work, so I'm at a loss
[13:09:13] <Lucas_WMDE>	 e3928a3bc: download encodings are currently broken (T165228), but there is a fix and it should hopefully be deployed soon
[13:09:14] <stashbot>	 T165228: Query results are downloaded in wrong encoding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165228
[13:41:59] <Angeles>	 Hi there! can someone tell me how to edit the list of children? thanks!
[13:47:00] <abian>	 Hola, Angeles; ¿qué lista necesitas editar?
[13:48:52] <Angeles>	 Hola! quisiera editar el listado de hijos de este perfil https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Lagos  pero no lo logro
[13:49:13] <Angeles>	 no aparece la opción "editar" en aquel ítem :/ 
[13:50:09] <abian>	 La lista se encuentra en el propio artículo de Wikipedia en español, puedes editarla allí... https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sergio_Lagos&action=edit
[13:50:29] <abian>	 Si necesitas ayuda relacionada con Wikipedia, en #wikimedia-ayuda podemos ayudarte
[13:50:39] <Angeles>	 muchísimas gracias :)
[13:50:55] <abian>	 You're welcome :)
[14:38:49] <Ainali>	 Someone who was interviewed in a podcast, would you use P767, P710 or P161 (or something else) to add him to the podcast item?
[15:28:09] <Nudin_WMDE>	 Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @Thiemo_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
[16:06:25] <e3928a3bc>	 how can I get the ID of an entity in the query service?
[16:06:28] <e3928a3bc>	 I tried `BIND(SUBSTR(?lang,31) as ?langId)` to no avail, as ?lang is an entity and not a string..
[16:08:48] <Lucas_WMDE>	 SUBSTR(STR(?lang), 31) should work then
[16:08:59] <Lucas_WMDE>	 and iirc you could use STRLEN(STR(wd:)) + 2 instead of the hard-coded 31
[16:13:58] <e3928a3bc>	 Lucas_WMDE: thank you! indeed the second approach seems better :)
[16:14:55] <Lucas_WMDE>	 just in case we ever change the prefix from http: to https: (I can dream, right? :P )
[16:22:49] <e3928a3bc>	 Lucas_WMDE: that way no eavesdropper can know about our queries for kitten images and the like
[19:58:59] <reosarevok>	 What does "this edit has not yet been patrolled" in my watchlist mean? Do I need to care? (the edit looks good FWIW)
[20:01:00] <d3r1ck>	 reosarevok: It just means the edit has not been checked :)
[20:01:13] <d3r1ck>	 Well you may want to care a bit :D
[20:01:15] <reosarevok>	 Do I need to do something specific to check it?
[20:01:19] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 it just means that a newbie made this edit and it hadn't be checked
[20:01:36] <d3r1ck>	 reosarevok: Don't worry, someone with patrol rights will check it
[20:01:40] <reosarevok>	 Ok :)
[20:01:45] <d3r1ck>	 And mark it as patrolled then you will be fine
[20:01:54] <d3r1ck>	 reosarevok: It's nothing much to worry about :D
[20:02:49] <d3r1ck>	 reosarevok: If the edit is legit, then it will be patrol and ... No worries at all, stay calm :D
[20:03:00] <reosarevok>	 Gotcha
[20:58:07] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 hoo, how bad is what I see in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/395833 ?
[20:58:22] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I mean, how urgent?
[20:58:28] <hoo>	 unbreak now
[20:58:36] <hoo>	 I'm reverting it on the branch right now
[20:58:44] <hoo>	 don't thing we need to actually revert this on master
[20:58:53] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Ok.
[20:59:14] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I don't fully understand why.
[20:59:17] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Do you need help?
[20:59:23] <hoo>	 No, I'm fine here
[20:59:34] <hoo>	 basically we run wmf11 on WD and wmf10 on Wikipedias
[20:59:49] <hoo>	 so WPs need to handle the newer version from wmf11 already
[20:59:57] <hoo>	 but the code in question is not in wmf10
[21:01:00] <hoo>	 hm, we could also port back the forward compatability code to wmf10
[21:01:03] <hoo>	 what do you think?
[21:01:26] <hoo>	 That's https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393780 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/394432
[21:02:08] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I think what you do now makes more sense.
[21:02:26] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Whats sad about this is that we will not have compact diffs for many weeks.
[21:02:44] <hoo>	 Yeah, deployment freeze :/
[21:03:39] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 All good, go on.
[21:04:22] <d3r1ck>	 Thiemo_WMDE: Hey! You've been missing :) 
[21:04:27] <d3r1ck>	 This is pending: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/367320/
[21:04:31] <d3r1ck>	 hoo: Hi :)
[21:04:58] <d3r1ck>	 you doing great? hoo 
[21:05:15] <hoo>	 I am… but very busy right now
[21:05:22] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 d3r1ck: Oh right, sorry for that. I will make sure it's in our lists.
[21:06:06] <d3r1ck>	 hoo: I can understand that perfectly :)
[21:32:35] <hoo>	 Amir1: here?
[23:35:52] <addshore>	 hoo: he was at the cinema!
[23:37:14] <addshore>	 hoo: I saw the ticket you made is already marked as resolved? so I guess you figured it out?
[23:44:35] <addshore>	 oh no! a DanielK_WMDE!