[05:58:04] <[1997kB]> hey, anybody knows whom to contact regarding wikidata game items without descriptions? [06:16:39] what game are you talking about? [08:36:53] <[1997kB]> arizcraf: items without descriptions. [08:37:38] do you have a link? [08:39:23] <[1997kB]> well, someone fixed it already.. [08:41:51] well then :) [10:31:16] Asking again since I did not find anyone yesterday :( [10:31:31] I've got a question regarding the property P412 (voice type). If I'm reading this correctly, only people with a P106 (occupation) can have this property. Now I'm currently inserting data of the instance of Q50386450 (opera figures). These as well can have a voice type. I was reusing this property but Wikidata is telling me that this might be a pro [10:31:31] blem. How can I adapt the voice type property to allow also items of the type opera figures to have a voice type. Or should I create a new property for this? [10:33:26] arizcraf: do you have some example item? [10:34:08] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55048012 [10:34:11] have a lot more [10:34:17] Because operatic character is a subclass of fictional character, which is allowed... [10:34:36] oh right [10:34:58] it needs it as occupation (as far as I understand it) [10:35:11] didn't want to mess with the propery [10:35:29] someone had the same question three years ago https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P412#Opera_Characters [10:35:46] I would think that it's a suggestion, not a hard requirement [10:36:14] there are 8585 violations anyway [10:37:12] wouldn't it be impossible to insert the entry if it's a hard requirement? [10:37:26] we have this nowadays :) https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property%3AP412&type=revision&diff=937363651&oldid=936555543 [10:38:41] arizcraf: even “mandatory constraints” aren’t actually enforced by the database [10:39:12] Lucas_WMDE: btw, will the UI message be updated as well to sound more... ehm... friendly? [10:39:28] Maybe something like "if possible" [10:40:18] I think that was brought up somewhere, but I don’t see it in the comments of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204439 at least [10:40:31] could probably use a Phabricator ticket if we don’t have one yet [10:41:34] oh right, it was in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204439#4927934 [10:41:55] :D [10:48:58] thank you both for the clarifications [10:49:49] Huston, I have a problem… Seems like I can't get mass (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2067) to work properly [10:50:25] There are two constrints that shows up at wront types of items [10:51:14] Note the constraint reports at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q569#P2067 [10:51:28] They should only show up for humans [10:52:48] It seemed alright until I checked where they should not show up. Never check for bugs, only assume you do something right… [10:55:07] constraints can’t be restricted to certain types of items [10:55:37] the “mandatory qualifier” constraint is bunk IMHO [10:56:01] the “citation needed” could be changed to “suggestion constraint” status, but in principle I think it’s fine [10:57:42] That would imply that a lot of constraints don't wek… O_O [10:58:00] …err… properly… [18:18:34] Lydia_WMDE: Trying to generate a short url on https://query.wikidata.org/ works, but trying to copy it is impossible. It jumps away. Quite frustrating. Do you know if we have a bug for that? [18:18:40] Or SMalyshev maybe? ^ [18:36:32] Copying also doesn't add https://, quite annoying while pasting [18:43:48] yes there's a phab task for it [18:44:19] sjoerddebruin: multichill https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221127 [18:44:22] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221127 [18:44:28] ok I'm too late :) [18:52:34] SMalyshev: Able to reproduce it? [19:07:50] multichill: kinda... the query shortener works fine for me on chrome, but the result shortener is kinda flaky, disappears sometime [19:08:18] since it's a stock component, I'm not sure how to fix it, my ui/browser/js arcana knowledge not enough [19:37:39] SMalyshev: Good task maybe for the hackathon in Prague?