[03:47:15] <[1997kB]>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=d:Special:Contributions&limit=50&contribs=user&target=70.31.127.1&namespace=&tagfilter=&start=&end=
[03:47:33] <[1997kB]>	 BRPever: ^ needs block
[03:51:09] <BRPever>	 [1997kB]: for a week...
[03:51:18] <BRPever>	 blocked
[03:51:24] <[1997kB]>	 ty
[03:51:31] <BRPever>	 no prob
[12:13:10] <nico008>	 Hi everyone! I notice wikidata entities dump is usually 38 Gb for the bz2 file (https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/entities/20190617/ shows 38562460193) but lastest and 20190624 are only 16 Gb (16469184764). Has the job failed or something?
[12:19:17] <amz3>	 yes
[12:19:23] <amz3>	 see the mailing list
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[17:09:43] <yannf>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ONU_Geneva_mainroom.jpg
[17:10:09] <yannf>	 what's the proper qualifier to indicate that it is the "inside"
[17:16:36] <sjoerddebruin>	 yannf: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P5775 as main claim (not qualifer)
[17:17:57] <Lucas_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: that would be on the Wikidata item; I think yannf meant how to model this in Structured Data on Commons
[17:18:10] <sjoerddebruin>	 Oh, that is confusing
[17:18:47] <sjoerddebruin>	 applies to part is one of the qualifier options?
[17:21:51] <Lucas_WMDE>	 looks like it
[17:54:20] <yannf>	 sjoerddebruin, yes, Lucas is right
[17:54:52] <yannf>	 something else https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paon.jpg
[17:55:01] <yannf>	 how to indicate that it is a male
[18:29:57] <James_F>	 yannf: Create an item, Asiatic peacock, which is a subclass of Q61865 and Q44148. 
[18:30:26] <yannf>	 James_F, ?
[18:30:55] <James_F>	 yannf: It's better to create an item for a common sub-class than to add a qualifier.
[18:31:17] <yannf>	 do you really suggest to create a new item for males of all species?
[18:31:25] <yannf>	 it doesn't make sense to me
[18:31:30] <James_F>	 Only for ones where it's particularly worthwhile to note.
[18:31:49] <yannf>	 hmm
[18:31:53] <James_F>	 peacock/peahen and bull/cow but goat/goat so one doesn't care. ;-)
[18:31:57] <yannf>	 where is the limit?
[18:32:04] <James_F>	 Where the community decides.
[18:32:08] <James_F>	 No hard rules.
[18:32:10] <yannf>	 for lions?
[18:32:12] <James_F>	 It's a wiki. :-)
[18:32:30] <yannf>	 dogs? cats?
[18:33:20] <James_F>	 For photographic (Commons) purposes, the important bit is how significant the differences in visual appearance will be. So, yes for lions, no for tigers or cats.
[18:33:26] <yannf>	 it seems better to have a consistent depicting system for all species to me
[18:34:02] <James_F>	 Also some rare cross-species hybrids are explicitly only one sex, IIRC; ligers are all male (?) etc.
[18:34:13] <James_F>	 Not sure how that's currently modelled.
[18:35:16] <yannf>	 apparently not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Liger_couple.jpg
[18:37:40] <yannf>	 James_F, I still didn't get how to indicate the inside of a building
[18:38:49] <James_F>	 Oh. I'm not sure the Wikidata community has modelled that properly, yes.
[18:38:54] <James_F>	 There's Q2998430.
[18:40:32] <yannf>	 ok, that's the proper value
[18:41:52] <yannf>	 James_F, so "applies to part" + Q2998430?
[18:52:38] <James_F>	 yannf: Hmm. No.
[18:53:07] <James_F>	 Maybe "shown with features"?
[18:53:23] <James_F>	 But really this should wait for all qualifiers rather than the limited original set.
[18:53:50] <yannf>	 ok, I will wait then
[18:54:16] <icinga-wm>	 PROBLEM - High lag on wdqs1003 is CRITICAL: 3663 ge 3600 https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1&panelId=8&fullscreen
[18:56:03] <James_F>	 We really need to add a "referenced on Commons in" section to Wikidata items. It'd be nice to show a bunch of related media automatically at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9141 and not just a few human-driven choices.
[19:03:43] <mark4o>	 Image of interior is P5775
[19:17:39] <SMalyshev>	 is something wrong with wikiscan.org? I am getting a bunch of No Content responses and empty results
[19:18:33] <SMalyshev>	 e.g. on http://wikidata.wikiscan.org/hours/3/users and http://wikidata.wikiscan.org/hours/6/users
[19:19:51] <SMalyshev>	 also we have again two editors at 60+/m and two at 50+/m... :(
[19:25:16] <James_F>	 mark4o: Aha, thanks.
[20:54:58] <icinga-wm>	 RECOVERY - High lag on wdqs1003 is OK: (C)3600 ge (W)1200 ge 1168 https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/wikidata-query-service?orgId=1&panelId=8&fullscreen