[13:49:06] <kiwi_38>	 Hi folks, quick question: how do I get the value of a property's qualifier on Wikipedia?
[13:51:39] <kiwi_38>	 {{#property:P18}} returns a filename, and I need to get its "point in time" qualifier
[14:23:05] <kiwi_38>	 Anyone?
[14:24:33] <d2ns[m]>	 kiwi_38: Please be patient. An irc is not a service hotline. You can just stay here for a while and maybe someone can help you. Thanks.
[14:43:00] <kiwi_38>	 got it: {{#invoke:Wikidata |getImageLegend |FETCH_WIKIDATA}}
[19:02:58] <CatQuest>	 hm. i'm having a little problem. i work mainly with instruments, 
[19:02:58] <CatQuest>	 ok so me and reosarevok figured out that https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19589438 is a more generic version of https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q76239 (zither)
[19:02:58] <CatQuest>	 I added HS 31 and removed "zither" as an english alias (which might have been wrong, but)
[19:02:58] <CatQuest>	 but recently another user has reverted both these. and then on zither done these changes https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q76239&action=history
[19:02:59] <CatQuest>	 I don't think it's right to make this english into a spesific german zither (this item is about "zither" as an instrument (group) while https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19589438 is a higher level, eg HS 31 vrs HS 314.122-4)
[19:03:33] <CatQuest>	 my question is : how od i deal with this?
[19:03:51] <CatQuest>	 it appears the spesific german page they linked to has been removed too
[19:04:45] <reosarevok>	 I don't speak German, but that page seems to be *both* about the zither group of instruments as per HS *and* about a more specific zither
[19:04:51] <reosarevok>	 Because Wikipedia :p
[19:04:58] <CatQuest>	 ugh
[19:05:29] <CatQuest>	 but do you agree that Q76239 shouldn't be about "alphine zither"
[19:05:47] <CatQuest>	 i'm horribly bad at explain stuff to people
[19:05:53] <CatQuest>	 how do i ask the user?
[19:10:42] <CatQuest>	 eh. i just edited that item again. hm:/
[19:10:53] <CatQuest>	 i really wish we coudl leve notes while doing changes
[19:12:19] <CatQuest>	 so I guess a third "this is a bout several things" type item should be created for https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zither (and any other wikilang page that is about spesific zither and about generic zither)
[19:12:35] <CatQuest>	 and *another* about spesifically this alphen zither
[19:23:40] <CatQuest>	 thnaks for beign a rubbery duck #wikidata (and reo) I figured how to write to the other person :D
[20:16:54] <SothoTalKer>	 that article should probably be split
[21:56:22] <CatQuest>	 SothoTalKer: that would definitly solve a few problems
[21:58:18] <SothoTalKer>	 first it would create problems, though ;p