[03:19:19] PROBLEM - WDQS SPARQL on wdqs1012 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/Runbook [03:47:22] RECOVERY - WDQS SPARQL on wdqs1012 is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 690 bytes in 1.239 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/Runbook [05:23:15] is this a good place to ask about wikibase or is there another channel? [05:25:11] specifically I'm wondering -- if I want to make a wikibase instance easier to browse, what are some good options for that? conceptually there are at least two -- a separate webapp that calls the api or a mediawiki extension [05:26:17] hmm, and I suppose a gadget would be another way too [11:14:15] !admin please delete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q101247286 [11:14:15] Please visit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:AN [14:50:31] soooo if anyone is around, i'm trying to add something on wd but am confused at what its asking me for [14:50:49] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2KMB1XbW/image.png [14:50:52] trying to indicate that its controversial [14:53:44] Grinchidicae: maybe https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18912752? [14:54:46] i'm assuming https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GZg5AyZW/image.png [14:54:47] is right then? [14:54:53] i'm trying to indicate that his death is disputed lol [14:55:33] looks correct, but I'm not an expert [14:56:05] all items which have instance of = sourcing circumstance are at https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Cats%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ104637420.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D [21:25:27] I have a wikibase instance and I'm looking for ways to improve browsing/querying for the particular structure of data that I have -- what's a good option for that? an extension, a gadget, something else? [21:26:00] basically a more specialized interface for my use case, in addition to the stock stuff [21:26:15] ideally working well with the existing stuff so as not to be too confusing [21:26:57] if there's a better place to ask about wikibase I can go there :) [21:56:56] [mattermost] I’d say an extension is going to be more limited – you’d need to work within the constraints of MediaWiki (use PHP, for one) [21:57:15] [mattermost] so an external tool might be better [21:57:32] [mattermost] (or at least what we’d call a “tool” in the Wikimedia world – Toolforge or Cloud VPS. not sure if that term applies to you) [21:57:35] lucas: so you mean like a webapp that calls the mediawiki api under the hood? [21:57:39] [mattermost] yea [21:57:40] [mattermost] *yeah [21:57:55] do you have any suggestions for existing things like that to look at? [21:58:01] (and yeah I know what wikimedia tools are) [21:58:20] [mattermost] Reasonator is probably the most popular one https://reasonator.toolforge.org/ [21:58:41] [mattermost] that’s PHP and JS as far as I’m aware [21:58:47] [mattermost] Hauki would be a Python example https://hauki.toolforge.org/ [21:59:33] I don't mind using PHP. I can write a webapp too. but basically, I'd say the priority is to not reinvent stuff that mediawiki+wikibase already do well but just add to them, without it being too awkward -- i.e. fallback to wikibase interface when necessary without that being too weird [21:59:42] [mattermost] (IIRC Hauki login / editing has been broken for a while but it should still work for viewing lexemes, e.g. https://hauki.toolforge.org/lex/en/99%20percent) [21:59:52] cool, thanks [22:00:00] just some examples will help a lot [22:00:16] I've done a fair amount of mediawiki hacking at this point so I'm not afraid of it (although not an expert exactly) [22:00:27] but a separate tool/app has its own benefits I can see [22:00:28] [mattermost] ok [22:01:33] [mattermost] I suppose a different example would be ArticlePlaceholder, as a MediaWiki extension version of a page showing entity data https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticlePlaceholder [22:02:46] [mattermost] so you could write a special page similar to AP’s Special:AboutTopic [22:03:10] cool, that's helpful too [22:03:29] yes, I've written a special page before, could work [22:13:24] Hello, is there a Wikidata admin here ? [22:19:23] !admin [22:19:23] Please visit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:AN