[03:26:45] PROBLEM - WDQS SPARQL on wdqs1005 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/Runbook [03:36:31] RECOVERY - WDQS SPARQL on wdqs1005 is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 691 bytes in 8.591 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/Runbook [03:43:53] PROBLEM - WDQS SPARQL on wdqs1005 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/Runbook [07:22:00] RECOVERY - WDQS SPARQL on wdqs1005 is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 689 bytes in 1.079 second response time https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/Runbook [12:27:48] Hello Users:)  I have a question regarding rebranded business on Wikidata. For example, I have this business https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5764716 that is no longer under brand "Hilton". what would be the best practice to reflect this on the listing? [12:28:36] In this case, I have added statement: "date of official closure", is it the best way to mark a business as no longer working? [12:31:49] Could you advise me on the above? [12:32:21] GG: hey [12:33:35] Hello [12:35:02] I think the best way is to create new item for new business and then use replaced by/replaces [12:36:18] btw I have doubt if your business is even notable for wikidata. [12:36:28] What do you mean: [12:37:05] first by replaced by/replaces, do you mean to add it to the oldbrand listing and to add the new business name? [12:37:46] secondly, why is it considered non-notable [12:38:02] read notability policy https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability [12:38:47] you need to add replaced by in old business name and replaces in new one. [12:43:20] So we create a new Article, we do not adopt the old article and to change the name and business details [12:43:47] we can add the closure date, replaced by and create a new article with the new business, am I right? [12:49:44] yes, btw what do you mean by 'we'? [12:51:12] I just wrote it as "we" to be common, as I was very doubtful how to proceed when a hotel changes the brand [12:53:55] And actually I have one more question is it better to add replaced by(Structure) or when the building is the same it is nor relevant [12:54:09] for changing only a name and may be the interior of the hotel [12:54:18] and the brand under which the given business operates [12:58:08] GG: one more way of doing it could be just change the name and update add another value to "owned by" [12:59:05] you can add qualifier to reflect the timing of ownership [13:00:41] * GG: one more way of doing it could be just change the name and add another value to "owned by" [13:02:21] So changing the data in the old listing with the new details are also okay with Wikidata policies? [13:05:56] GG: yeah, I think updating "owned by" would make more sense as that's only thing that got changed. [13:08:08] And one more questions regarding the closing businesses, what about the listing of hotels closing forever? I mean it will not operate anymore at all? [13:09:47] you can add "date of official closure" statement to them. [13:14:45] -When changing a hotel name and it operates under a different name/brand I change the name and add a statement ‘owned by’ with the new brand then I add a qualifier with the end date to the previous brand and a start date to the new brand? [13:14:46] - for the second case when I have no news that the hotel changes to a new owner with a new brand and closes forever, I just add a closure date? [13:14:46] Is that right? [13:23:22] yep [13:27:41] And as for the "replacing" statement to be added it is also an option but with the extra creation of a new article with the new business? [13:27:48] :] :] :] [13:28:55] I think that's best when two company/business merge and start operation under new name. [13:36:52] Thank you very much as it is quite confusing which is the best practice :) [13:40:27] Lozenge: the item is being used by wikivoyage [13:43:38] What do you mean nikki? [13:43:46] Which item exactly? [13:44:05] the one you're talking about [13:44:39] wikivoyage is using some of the data from it, which means it is notable [13:45:38] nikki: on which page? [13:47:25] https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Haḍabat_Umm_es-Sīd apparently. you can find out which wikis are using an entity by clicking "page information" and going to the "page properties" section [13:48:42] What we do in this case? [13:48:51] I* [13:48:54] nothing? [13:49:02] What is the best practice? [13:49:25] But it is a closed/rebranded business now that is the whole discussion about? [13:49:50] how to proceed with the closed forever hotels and those changing the brand or the name [13:50:12] ah thanks! [13:50:43] didn't knew voyage use item is such way. [13:55:09] So when a business is used as an entity in Wikivoyage it is considered notable? [14:22:01] Hello Users:)  I have a question regarding rebranded business on Wikidata. For example, I have this business https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5764716 that is no longer under brand "Hilton". what would be the best practice to reflect this on the listing? [14:22:02] [2:28:36 PM] In this case, I have added statement: "date of official closure", is it the best way to mark a business as no longer working? [14:22:28] Hello :)  I have a question regarding rebranded business on Wikidata. For example, I have this business https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5764716 that is no longer under brand "Hilton". what would be the best practice to reflect this on the listing? [14:22:29] In this case, I have added statement: "date of official closure", is it the best way to mark a business as no longer working? [15:33:54] Hi, How do I resolve "Error: Conflicting descriptions for language" ? [15:34:40] I don't get which field is actually conflicting. Is there a possibility to merge "interactively"? [15:46:19] ok it worked with the merge gadget... [23:37:56] I've noticed that there are certain ISO 3166-2 codes for countries or territories that are registered but not linked to the ISO 3166-2 code. most countries have a property for this, for example Q668 is India and has property P297 "IN". but there are others, for example Diego Garcia = Q184851 but it doesn't have the property stating its ISO code is "DG". is that something it would be reasonable to add? [23:38:03] or is there some good reason that code hasn't been added? [23:53:55] ningu: it's not in the official list [23:55:21] you can find it in "Other Codes" -> "Exceptionally Reserved": https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#search [23:56:22] You could add it with a source, if you wanted to: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:DG