[22:14:42] Hi, someone here? :) [22:26:01] quiddity, you're up [22:26:21] Kthoelen, Hi, how can we help? [22:26:40] oh, it's a queue system over here? ;) [22:27:00] Well, I saw the e-mail Elitre sent today [22:27:11] about the open positions at the CEP [22:28:10] IRC is a semi-realtime system, but most of us are in dozens of channels, so replies can take hours if nobody notices a message in a particular channel. :) [22:28:28] Ah, excellent. What would you like to know about the position(s)? [22:28:33] And I was wondering if there is already a more concrete description of those positions, since it seems quite vague on the page [22:29:07] on the greenhouse.io page, or on the meta/mediawiki page? [22:29:08] e.g. "Build and support a network of volunteers from both English and non-English language Wikimedia projects" [22:29:13] no, the greenhouse page :) [22:29:15] sorry [22:29:25] np! [22:30:14] The usual description is that our team is a "bridge" between the many communities, and the specific teams that we work with. [22:31:16] So, I work with the Flow (Core Features) team, and try to read everything relevant by both staff and communities, and distribute that information as is necessary. [22:31:27] okay, got it [22:32:10] interesting :) [22:32:26] Being able to understand and collate multiple viewpoints, and translate each perspective into language that is understandable by the audience, is a key requirement. [22:32:37] I already did some translating work, so it's a little similar imo [22:33:05] I studied languages and literature for 4 years, and I'm currently residing in the arbitration committee on nl-wikipedia [22:33:07] e.g. I have to explain complex editor workflows, to staff members that may be very unfamiliar with particular gadgets, or noticeboard nuances. [22:33:13] Dunno if that helps, but still :P [22:33:18] definitely. [22:34:11] and I'm very eager to learn [22:34:21] young and naive [22:34:23] ;) [22:34:23] I think that describes most Wikimedians ;P [22:35:52] Anything else I can help clarify? [22:36:17] I'm really considering to apply for the job [22:36:51] it's just that I'm not familiar with the situation of the WMF and non-US (possible) employees [22:37:19] I hope you do! I've heard great things about Nlwiki, and their perspective on friendly collaboration. [22:37:35] oh stop ;) [22:37:52] I live in Canada, and Elitre lives in Italy. We're used to remote colleagues :) [22:38:33] how much time does it cost you? [22:38:46] (I'm in my final year in university, so...) [22:40:06] Well, hypothetically it's a standard US work week, so 9am-5pm, 40hours. (and the part time position with Mobile is half that, 20hours/week). But most of us seem to be workaholics, so... >.> [22:40:58] hmm, I see [22:41:23] that would be my first constraint at the moment, a lack of time... [22:43:24] What degree are you finishing up? [22:44:29] Master's degree in Scandinavian Language and Literature :) [22:44:40] I studied French and Swedish in my bachelor [22:44:42] Ah, fabulous! [22:45:21] Yes, it's really fun to do [22:45:36] and I just love languages [22:46:13] I'm also looking to start a course on Flemish Sign Language, as to become an interpreter [22:46:26] enormously fascinating :P [22:46:54] My current pet philosophy is dualism: There are only 2 things in the world; energy (matter) and language (non-tangibles). [22:47:25] language as the base for all that isn't tangible? interesting :P [22:47:35] most people would say that's mathematics [22:48:52] I've got a variant of http://xkcd.com/435/ somewhere... [22:49:06] that has linguistics wrapping in a moebius loop around the whole thing. [22:49:20] I think I knew you would show me that one :D [22:49:34] \o/ [22:52:14] Nah, but I've already been looking for jobs for next year, but it's hard, since you mostly can't apply for a job in which you can only start in August 2015 [22:52:46] I think it's easier if it's a job like this one, a little bit more at ease, where one can plan his time accordingly [22:55:06] I take it you're mostly interested in the full-time position, working with the Flow and VisualEditor teams? [22:55:26] well, yes and no [22:55:34] part time would suit better in terms of time management [22:56:12] but the full-time position (if Elitre's description in her mail is correct) looks more appealing to me [22:56:13] :) [22:57:20] Apply for both, but note in your cover letter that you wouldn't be able to work more than x-hours a week? [22:58:28] (when does the 'contract' start?) [22:58:39] (I'm not at all sure, but there /might/ be a possibility of getting 3 part-timers, instead of 1 full-time and 1 part-time ? Though that sounds way too logical!) [22:59:01] And spend more money? ;) [22:59:10] I think in January, ideally. But paperwork usually takes longer than expected. ;_; ) [23:01:23] I'm still gonna need some time to think it through [23:01:38] but thanks for the information, it's been quite useful :) [23:02:21] No problem! Feel free to send in your application anyway, so that they have it on file, and/or so that we can cry over a lost opportunity. ;) [23:02:56] First to translate my CV in english :P [23:03:14] Sadly I'm monolingual, so, yes please! ;) [23:04:23] :D [23:04:34] don't worry, I will ;) [23:05:04] now off to bed (5 past 12 at night for me...) [23:05:12] goodnight. o/ [23:05:28] you too (in about 7 hours or so :P )