[10:03:30] <jynus>	 hey, hoo, when you have time: should we proceed with gerrit:230301 schema change?
[10:04:24] <hoo>	 Yes, please :)
[16:20:24] <Krenair>	 jynus, what do you dislike about the current grants model?
[16:23:49] <jynus>	 I send it to ops-private only, because it is NDA-related (and I want first springle feedback)
[16:24:07] <jynus>	 let me forward it to you, too
[16:26:04] <Krenair>	 ok
[16:27:40] <jynus>	 it is related to T104900 and T82799
[16:27:53] <jynus>	 both NDA- restricted :-)
[16:28:20] <jynus>	 but hopfully we will solve both at once
[16:29:14] <Krenair>	 FWIW ops@ list is NDA required as well
[16:29:22] <jynus>	 I was told not
[16:29:43] <jynus>	 I asked first and they said not
[16:29:59] <Krenair>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lists.wikimedia.org#Authorized_recipients_for_Ops.40lists.wikimedia.org
[16:30:08] <Krenair>	 Anyway what you said makes sense to me
[16:31:00] <jynus>	 for now, lets create the user- bein badly on puppet
[16:31:10] <jynus>	 is better than not being on puppet at all
[16:31:15] <Krenair>	 yep
[16:31:34] <jynus>	 also those clases started very elegantly
[16:31:56] <jynus>	 but with time, they end up as copy-pastes, etc.
[16:32:42] <jynus>	 I am not going to do nothing radical, just a clean base class
[16:33:06] <jynus>	 and subclasses for main wikis, etc.
[16:33:33] <jynus>	 it will also allow labs to reuse them without problem
[16:53:19] <jynus>	 Krenair, deployed labswiki grants- do you want to test them?
[16:54:51] <Krenair>	 hm
[16:55:29] <jynus>	 will they work with the latest sql changes?
[16:55:52] <Krenair>	 I haven't got it to work with plain mysql client yet
[16:56:10] <jynus>	 let me try
[16:56:12] <Krenair>	 It should just work with the sql command change, in theory
[16:56:19] <Krenair>	 oh, there we go
[16:56:24] <Krenair>	 just took an unreasonably long time to connect
[16:56:31] <jynus>	 yes, silver seems slow
[16:58:18] <jynus>	 also, a trick, when using the mysql command line, specially on production, run it with -A
[16:58:44] <jynus>	 otherwise it starts to query metadata like crazy- it is not dangerous , but it is slow
[16:59:08] <jynus>	 and when all you do (in my case) is run mysql, 1-5 seconds saved are a lot :-)
[17:03:56] <Krenair>	 `sql` command does still work
[17:04:15] <jynus>	 nice
[17:04:32] <jynus>	 or starts working again, I suppose
[17:05:03] <Krenair>	 and mediawiki maintenance scripts are happy to query data from labswiki now
[17:05:12] <Krenair>	 so that's resolved