[07:01:01] (03PS1) 10Gopavasanth: Installation part is missing in README.md in Wiki extension MassMessage [extensions/MassMessage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423086 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191105) [07:04:25] (03PS2) 10Gopavasanth: Installation part is missing in README.md in Wiki extension MassMessage [extensions/MassMessage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423086 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191105) [10:34:26] (03PS3) 10Zoranzoki21: Installation part is missing in README.md in Wiki extension MassMessage [extensions/MassMessage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423086 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191105) (owner: 10Gopavasanth) [10:34:43] (03CR) 10Zoranzoki21: "I was fixed this. Sorry Gopa." (032 comments) [extensions/MassMessage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423086 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191105) (owner: 10Gopavasanth) [12:33:26] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#4094377 (10D3r1ck01) [12:33:58] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#3925699 (10D3r1ck01) p:05Normal>03High [12:38:39] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10MassMessage, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-01-16 (1.31.0-wmf.17)), 10Outreachy (Round-15), and 2 others: MassMessage technical debt cleanup/refactoring - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178431#4094380 (10D3r1ck01) [12:40:50] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10Developer-Relations: Activating Developer Communities across the African continent - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186956#4094386 (10D3r1ck01) [15:50:08] Hi guys the meeting is about to start in few minutes [15:50:35] If you know a few guys you can ping to remind them please do. [15:50:45] Thanks! :D [15:57:53] r054l13: thanks [16:00:07] Hi everyone! [16:00:33] d3r1ck: Hello man [16:00:50] Hi d3r1ck [16:01:02] Agenda is located here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803. [16:01:08] I think it's time. [16:01:25] r054l13 is cheering the meeting! :) [16:01:46] Thanks d3r1ck [16:02:01] I will welcome some help from you and Samuel :) [16:02:27] I'll help take down notes on the etherpad [16:02:44] I'll give a helping hand too [16:03:08] Ok Thank you guys! looking at the agenda, the first thing is introduction [16:03:37] So i am not sure if there is any new member with us today. [16:04:02] But if that is the case please own up and give us some intro :) [16:04:29] Sveta: Hi! [16:05:54] OK! Am I in this meeting just with d3r1ck and africanhope ? [16:06:38] Maybe, other will join I think :) [16:07:01] Ok! so should we give them like 10 more minutes? [16:07:28] If the agenda permits us, then yes why not? [16:08:06] Ok! [16:08:15] We could do so, while pinging some people [16:08:25] Ok good idea [16:09:48] r054l13: Do you usually add the agenda to the etherpad at the very begining of the meeting or do you add agenda's points as where touch each of them? [16:10:07] as we touch them* [16:10:41] As we touch them I think [16:10:54] Well noted, thanks [16:11:05] WCM [16:11:27] Eugene233: are you around? [16:11:32] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#4094566 (10D3r1ck01) [16:12:47] Hi all [16:12:54] onix_:hi! welcome [16:12:56] onix_: Hello [16:13:05] Hi all [16:13:15] Hi Eugene233 [16:13:19] onix_: Hey! Welcome! [16:13:22] Finaly I find you guys :) [16:13:22] Hey Eugene233 [16:13:32] onix_: We are always here :) [16:13:43] noela: would you join us? [16:14:07] Eugene233: welcome [16:14:10] africanhope: I am there :) [16:14:25] Thanks @africanhope [16:14:56] d3r1ck: yeah but didn't find the channel for a while now. As said in the mail i hope to contribute as well but still didn't get the chance [16:15:02] noela: its cool to read from you :) [16:15:35] onix_: Okay! This is the channel and anytime you have something, you can drop here with no hessitation. [16:16:27] The channel is now in better state. we can look at the agenda I guess [16:17:22] Before onix_ Eugene233 and noela we were on introduction [16:17:37] But I think none of them is new or? [16:17:58] Yes [16:18:00] so we can look at the next point. [16:18:00] Certainly @r054l13 [16:18:01] We can move on! [16:18:07] Great1 [16:18:09] !* [16:19:02] Next thing on agender is GSoC/outreachy application [16:19:13] with aplicants from Africa [16:19:22] applicants* [16:19:45] Okay! Is there anyone in the room that applied for GSoC 2018 or Outreachy Round 16 for Wikimedia? [16:20:35] I did. Anyone else? [16:21:02] Someone from CI but he had to drop [16:21:11] Ohhh damn! [16:21:19] Bamlifa is not in the meeting, I think he also applied [16:21:27] ok! [16:21:28] Language was a barrier, and we'll probably better prepare for next year [16:21:28] So that makes 2 [16:21:36] Ohhh no :( [16:21:48] africanhope: sure! [16:21:48] Well noted africanhope! [16:22:10] I think it make ~2 [16:22:44] that's not very good for a start but it is better than none. [16:22:46] However r054l13 provided good guidance to this participant, yet as mentioned above, he wasn't comfortable enough in English to continue the process. [16:23:24] Okay! [16:23:42] So given that Bamlifa and the CI guy(Stephane) are not around [16:23:55] Oh that’s sad @africanhope. [16:24:00] So the question I see in the agenda is: "What to do after you've applied for GSoC?" [16:24:27] But the applicants are not there. except me [16:24:33] so we may skip that [16:24:36] or? [16:24:44] yes we can [16:25:08] Okay! Was thinking the'll read the logs but if we agree to skip, then fine! [16:25:12] What next? :) [16:25:17] Ok thank you. Now Discussion around GSS2WT converter project for AMWD. [16:25:49] I will give the floor to africanhope and d3r1ck on this [16:26:12] primarily to @d3r1ck [16:26:30] Ohhh GSS2WT means: Google Spread Sheet to Wiki Table Converter [16:26:46] ok! [16:26:59] Basically, it's a tool / script / project to scrape data from a Google Spread Sheet to a Wiki Table [16:27:07] The Wikitable will look like the GSS [16:27:15] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#4094584 (10rosalieper) [16:27:22] Are my making sense? [16:27:34] yes! [16:27:46] Sure [16:28:13] So it's project that is still at a conceptual level even though I've build something already that scrapes a GSS and updates a Wikipage [16:28:25] ok but how is AWMD involved [16:28:27] The edits so far are made as anon [16:28:41] So AWMD folks will contribute on building this tool [16:28:47] The repo will reside on Github [16:28:49] Very nice idea [16:28:59] And anyone is free to contribute [16:29:20] When repo goes on Github, there will be a detail document / README.md to explain the problem this project is trying to solve [16:29:29] That sounds great [16:29:46] Okay! [16:30:11] Thank you d3r1ck [16:30:44] If we're good, we can move on. You're welcome r054l13 [16:30:49] I will email guys about this great idea. What do you think? [16:31:08] africanhope: anything to add? [16:31:08] (help with the Etherpad is welcome, I am a bit behind the conversation pace) [16:31:18] ok ok [16:31:20] Yes just quick thoughts [16:31:26] This project is great [16:31:52] Ok thank you [16:32:06] Next thing -> Are you interested in hosting an AWMD full scale event in your country? [16:32:58] Rosalie, the next is "Addressing difficulties faced by applicant to on going outreach program." [16:33:04] Before what you mentioned above [16:33:23] Aah! you are right [16:33:24] thanks [16:33:41] So one difficulty is language which Samuel already raised [16:33:45] What other difficulty? [16:33:48] yea [16:34:07] I want to add few things [16:34:13] knowledge on how to approche the program [16:34:17] africanhope: ok! [16:34:18] africanhope: Go ahead please :) [16:34:27] exactly r054l13: [16:34:35] 'knowledge on how to approche the program' [16:34:53] When trying to guide participants through the process, I myself struggled a bit [16:35:21] Mainly because I have never applied myself then, I don't fully know all the steps involved [16:35:24] Ohhh but there are lots of docs online about GSoC [16:35:34] What exactly was the issue r054l13 & africanhope? [16:35:42] For instance this is where r054l13 played a key role guiding the participant from CIV. [16:36:03] Okay! [16:36:08] d3r1ck: I did not know which step came after another during the process [16:36:20] Okay, let me fetch some links right away [16:36:35] But there is a timeline that shows all the steps and dates as well [16:36:46] d3r1ck: If you remember at some poing I pinged you asking things like 'my guy registerd though GsOc website, whta'ts next?' [16:36:55] africanhope: See this: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline. [16:36:55] d3r1ck: The problem came in as a result of late preparation from us. this meeting was to take place long before now [16:37:15] d3r1ck: I concur with r054l13 o nthis [16:37:17] d3r1ck: And the delay cost us [16:37:18] Okay! [16:37:33] Ohhh so the knowledge is as a result of a meeting not holding [16:37:39] So we need to have more meetings on time :) [16:37:47] not really :) [16:37:57] Ohhh, so what is the issue? :) [16:38:21] d3r1ck: my point is, we should have tried guiding participants at an earlier time [16:38:27] For GSoC documentation, there would be a lot of reading, one can start here: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq. [16:38:29] even via mail [16:38:39] We could blame it on the experience, in my case particularly. r054l13 knew how to guide my guy, I did not. [16:38:59] r054l13: Guiding one participant at a time is a lot of energy. So meeting were all of them attend and they are guided at same time speeds the process. [16:39:02] (addin the documentation link to etherpad, thanks) [16:39:28] d3r1ck: good point [16:39:42] So it boils down to the meeting :) [16:39:48] We had a meeting before application and now after [16:39:58] but didn't have one during so :( [16:40:08] Yes, we missed that particular meeting before application. Well noted! [16:40:11] d3r1ck: yes [16:40:35] During not before [16:40:41] we hadd one before [16:41:12] Okay! [16:41:16] ok So we shall plan better for next year [16:41:21] I guess [16:41:25] onix_: Did you apply? [16:41:49] The floor is open for everyone and even if you didn't apply, you may have an idea. Please feel free to drop something here :) [16:42:35] Eugene233: :O [16:43:24] I'll be leaving the meeting in 15mins to another meeting! :( [16:43:33] Ok! I believe there's nothing more to say on that point [16:43:55] Next in the queu -> Are you interested in hosting an AWMD full scale event in your country? [16:43:59] I was observing and following the conversation guys but I think best to do is to plan before hand [16:44:13] Sorry am abit slow [16:44:20] Ok! noted Eugene233 [16:44:30] Its fine :) [16:44:36] Next in the queu -> Are you interested in hosting an AWMD full scale event in your country? [16:45:00] So far, AWMD has taken place in Ghana and Cote d'Ivoire [16:45:18] Nigeria will take place on a few days (12th & 13th April hopefully) [16:45:30] Great! [16:45:51] any Nigerian in here? [16:46:03] Cameroon is very eager to welcome the program. [16:46:12] :) [16:46:30] onix_: what about your community [16:46:35] ? [16:46:52] Eugene233: Okay! Well noted! [16:48:33] Cameroon will surely be the next after Nigeria [16:49:11] And we are ready for that as Eugene mentioned :D [16:49:25] Noted! [16:49:39] Thanks [16:49:46] That's really good to hear [16:49:54] Welcom bam [16:49:55] looking forward to it! [16:50:02] hey [16:50:09] sorry, I was out [16:50:37] Okay! Any other country wants an AWMD training [16:50:49] Cameroon has made strong requests and getting ready after Nigeria [16:51:19] OK! Great [16:51:53] I'm aware Bam filed a request so I'll add by saying if you need a training in your country, file the request here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Africa_Wikimedia_Developers_Project/Request_by_Country [16:51:59] Add a section to that page [16:53:35] [Sorry people, I'll take my leave as I have another meeting. I'll read the logs later. Thanks] [16:53:42] * d3r1ck checks out [16:53:52] good [16:53:55] oh! so sad he left [16:54:24] about my country I think to host it in the 2nd semester of this yr [16:54:25] We're into good hand r054l13: [16:54:56] Ok bam [16:54:57] bam_: could you remind us where you are from please? [16:55:41] drcongo [16:56:01] and did you drop an application for GSoC? [16:56:06] Thanks bam_, I just didn't want to make mistakes in the report :-) [16:56:09] just for confirmation [16:56:27] yes, of course due to my bank [16:56:37] ok Great [16:56:44] that did not allow me pay fees on time [16:57:23] can we move to the next point? or any other Country? [16:57:52] I guess so [16:58:04] bam: I am not sure to get you normally you should be a student to apply [16:58:14] so did you finally got your fees paid? [16:58:25] no [16:58:35] Oh! sorry [16:58:53] and How did you apply [16:59:11] Did not apply, sorry [16:59:26] OH no! [16:59:27] may be next yr, if I've time [16:59:37] OK! no quams [16:59:50] I believe next year will be better. [16:59:56] @bam_: [17:00:01] what's the next point? [17:00:06] africanhope: I think there are some updates here [17:00:21] just updated the etherpad [17:00:26] Q/A session around Wikimedia technical development & Projects. [17:00:31] thanks africanhope [17:01:05] the floor is open [17:01:13] Any Question? [17:01:58] (03CR) 10Gopavasanth: ">" (032 comments) [extensions/MassMessage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/423086 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191105) (owner: 10Gopavasanth) [17:02:26] any challenges when working on mediawiki? [17:02:38] or extensions? [17:02:57] any difficulties using git, gerrit or phabricator? [17:03:36] Or any one needing help in a task? [17:03:47] if none we may proceed :) [17:04:04] sorry, ive to leave you [17:04:08] ok [17:04:16] thx for all [17:04:23] I guess we can move on to the next point [17:04:36] the meeting is soon over you could just be patient abit bam_ [17:04:44] just one point [17:04:51] Eugene233: Conclusion remarks and closing! [17:05:01] that;s the next [17:05:07] That's [17:05:09] r054l13: I am seizing the occasion to ping Eugene233 on ticket I am trying to work on [17:05:18] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174154 [17:05:27] ok cool [17:05:34] Left a message there but got no answer mate :) [17:05:34] I will look at it @africanhope. [17:05:57] Great [17:06:33] Nice. So we can conclude [17:07:07] One GSoC application from Africa in Wikimedia. [17:07:14] Yea [17:07:21] A few problems noted participants faced [17:07:53] Every one is confortable developing on Mediawiki [17:07:55] Applicants I see you mean @r0 [17:08:11] @r054l13: :) [17:08:39] Yes till futher updates, I think it just me :C [17:09:20] We have Nigeria Welcoming AWMD soon and Cameroon next [17:10:41] Basically that's what I can conclude from this meeting [17:10:46] Yea sure they are and we too are [17:10:59] You summed it up well r054l13 [17:11:15] Thanks! [17:11:29] So We are done I think [17:11:32] Well done Rosalie. Thanks very much for setting out time to discuss the future of African volunteers. Whatever you do please do it well and ask questions always and together we will make the community great. [17:11:58] Thank you Eugene233. Noted :D [17:12:19] Thank yu all for making time [17:12:26] and attending [17:12:44] thank you everyone [17:12:58] See you guys and talk to you later @africanhope [17:13:00] Was my first time as a Host and you guys made it great for me :) [17:13:09] see you.... [17:13:21] r054l13: you did really great actually [17:13:36] Thanks africanhope [17:13:57] Guys do not hesitate and stop by the etherpad to update it if needs to be: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/AWMD_IRC-Meeting-4 [17:14:08] Ok! [17:17:09] africanhope: Looks good. [17:17:26] Thanks you for noting all [17:30:10] r054l13: you're welcome [17:46:19] Thank you all for making the time to attend the meeting. See you all next time :) [17:50:19] 10Africa-Wikimedia-Developers, 10Developer-Relations: Africa Wikimedia Developers IRC general meeting #4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185803#4094690 (10D3r1ck01) Thanks for hosting the meeting @rosalieper. Also, big thanks for everyone who made it work and participated in the meeting. Next meeting: See... 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