[18:36:07] twentyafterfour: off the cuff idea: we should have phabot in here for now, maybe setup to announce changes to tasks in the BZ-migration project (or not, really, if that's too noisy), but at least having it respond to T123 etc [18:36:28] consider this a request from a luser, up to you and team to say yes or no [18:36:31] :) [18:37:04] greg-g: yes I agree, I set up phabot back when we had labs. but now I don't have access to production to do that [18:37:12] oh right [18:37:23] I suppose phabot could run on labs actually [18:37:23] it runs on the same machine as phab? [18:37:26] ahh [18:37:42] generally I would have it run on the same machine as phab yes... but it doesn't have to [18:37:47] * greg-g nods [18:38:33] twentyafterfour: it's already running on labs [18:38:46] legoktm: where is it? the bot? [18:38:52] I want to poke at it :) [18:38:52] it's outputting everything into #mediawiki-feed [18:39:02] probably in the wikibugs project [18:39:22] legoktm: it's attached to the production instance though? [18:39:37] yes [18:40:16] it's not as helpful as wikibugs though [18:40:17] can you modify the config to have it join this channel for task lookup purposes? [18:40:27] I have no idea how to do that [18:40:34] not as helpful as wikibugs? [18:40:44] it ain't responding to me in -feed :( [18:40:53] valhallasw set it up [18:41:12] greg-g: it's not set up to do anything but dump the feed [18:41:20] * greg-g pouts [18:41:24] I'll set up another one in here [18:41:27] :) [18:41:34] [09:54:00] ArielGlenn updated subscribers of T597: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 [18:41:46] shouldn't output people adding themselves to CC [18:42:23] I agree.. I don't see how that's particularly useful as a notification in irc, email or otherwise [18:42:24] [10:01:14] Qgil created T598: MediaWiki OAuth dialog text is unclear and sounds more scary than it is. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T598 [18:42:29] sorry to distract, was one of those quick thoughts I should have just filed a bug for :) [18:42:41] no info about project, priority, what the text was [18:43:35] * greg-g wants those as X-Phab- headers [18:43:41] legoktm: it's meant to be short I think... but we can always modify the info that gets posted to the channel [18:44:12] [09:12:20] <+wikibugs> Wikimedia / Site requests: Update article count on ckbwiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71884 (Calak) NEW p:Unprio s:normal a:None Hello. Currently {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} shows about 15,100 articles but actually we have about 14,900 articles. This is probably because of Bug 40009. Please... [18:44:21] that is a lot more informative than from phab [18:44:54] it does have eg: X-Phabricator-Projects: <#ect-october-2014>, <#code-review>, <#wikimedia_phabricator_rfc> [18:45:14] (in email, replying to myself) [18:45:29] valhallasw found that the emails weren't really useful and easy to parse either [18:47:20] ugh, effing gmail [18:48:07] use thunderbird :P [18:48:21] or...icedove? [18:48:50] I might just go back to mutt [19:25:54] has icedove installed just to delete spam once :p [19:27:06] because there i can sort subject alphabetically.. and bam.. delete all the mail in character sets i dont speak [19:27:38] cant in gmail [19:28:27] can someone add me to the phabricator project on labs? [19:28:56] this one? https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Phabricator [19:29:29] andre__: YuviPanda chasemp ^ [19:29:44] twentyafterfour: sure [19:29:49] twentyafterfour: what's your labs username? [19:30:21] YuviPanda: 20after4 [19:31:18] twentyafterfour: done [19:36:19] YuviPanda: thanks! [19:36:24] yW [20:15:16] is there a reason this project wouldn't be visible to public? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/edit/34/ [20:23:44] Editable By Custom Policy ? [20:23:50] looks custom [20:25:09] just means a acl object [20:25:37] (instead of like one user or group) [20:49:35] chasemp, I bet it is visible to All Users only because that is the default, but maybe twentyafterfour knows more [20:50:05] i started making actual ops ticket in phab now [20:50:15] well, in both systems [20:51:01] mutante: I bet if you ask mark he'll say it's cool to do phab only for ops-y internal stuff [20:51:05] if you didn't want to double duty [20:51:35] well, actually i made it in phab because it's more than ops internal [20:51:42] because if i want multi-team interaction it seems better [20:52:04] this example "make a subdomain for the annual online report" [20:52:09] needs input from others too [20:52:20] what name, who uploads.. where should it go... [20:53:26] Editable By Custom Policy, I wonder what is the custom policy, and whether it does what the team thinks it does... Editing a project is not much deal. [20:54:40] I made it visible to public at least [20:54:47] I'm sure you are right on default creation [20:55:10] hiding it does the "private projects" stuff in ui for public and it's not great or really useful [20:55:27] I can't think of a project where teh existence of it is not even knowable [20:58:02] I just changed Patch-To-Review to Visible: Public [20:58:26] #cabal ;) [21:18:56] chasemp: qgil: Lynette from office administration had a request that needs input from multiple teams.. also showed her phab..she's going to try [21:19:15] didnt know what project though [21:19:53] what's the request? [21:20:42] thanks for the advocacy, mutante. We have frozen project creation (although a couple of exceptions sneaked in, with a justification) [21:21:30] she could have either no projects, or maybe we could swing something generic? [21:23:53] Hey, I signed up earlier today for Phabricator (using my LDAP account) and I now tried to connect my MediaWiki account to it. However, that didn't work because my account isn't part of a global account; and I can't make it a global account as I don't own the account on the "home wiki". Is there anything I can do about this? [21:26:15] (ping for qgil and chasemp - matanya told me you could help me) [21:26:19] yeah thinking [21:26:26] I'm not the best judge but I think....no [21:26:39] if I get it, you have your name on one wiki but not SUL [21:26:44] and someone has it on another [21:26:46] and so clash [21:26:56] qgil: is the man to ask or andre__ [21:27:23] chasemp: getting help with the uploading of many images to office wiki [21:27:23] poke`, can you create a task for this? I'm sure you are not going to be the only one with this problem. [21:27:32] chasemp: maybe also to install more extensions on office wiki [21:27:39] The thing is that my name isn't taken by a global account yet, so I could claim it if that one account on the polish Wikipedia didn't have that many edits there. [21:27:40] qgil: ok, gotcha [21:28:06] qgil: On Phabricator? Sure, I can try :) [21:28:19] poke`, "SUL finalization" is also happening these months, so perhaps we can have some kind of collateral process to fix your Phabricator login and your Wikimedia SUL at once [21:28:27] chasemp: sounds to me like it should be "office" or something [21:28:38] chasemp: things related to the physical office that is [21:28:45] she should ask OIT [21:28:50] idk if they even has phab on their radar [21:28:53] I guess? [21:29:08] actually i dunno what happened to the old fab ticket [21:29:15] about zendesk [21:29:39] well, cajoel was with her when they asked [21:29:52] they asked how to ask the organization things.. [21:30:09] mutante, chasemp perhaps it is time to force https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Requesting_a_new_project for all new project requests, including our own [21:30:45] if only to document discussions and agree on i.e. the name of the project [21:30:57] qgil: With the SUL finalization, is there a chance I can claim the nick for myself? I think that one user on the polish Wikipedia became inactive by now. [21:30:57] what happens when we make tickets and dont select a project [21:31:00] is that a bad thing ? [21:31:03] currently [21:31:07] it just means no projects associated [21:31:12] mutante, for sites, I would go for their URL: "office.wikimedia.org" [21:31:16] I mean, easy to get lost [21:31:42] qgil: ok, makes sense [21:31:55] mutante, you're not alone :) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/RFEPiqxQuXUi/#R [21:32:22] maybe we should really make one for every site [21:32:30] or service, however we wann call it [21:32:40] instead of team based [21:32:40] actually good idea [21:32:46] well both and all the above [21:33:00] it's hard to get mentally into the tags game but you could do both [21:33:47] upstream recently started a support impact tagging scheme for low/medium/high [21:33:55] as they have been hit hard by support requests [21:34:09] things like that are tagging's advantages I guess imo [21:35:38] qgil: should i make the project request, realizing it will not be processed until later ? [21:36:26] chasemp: i guess it's like when switching from Thunderbird folders to Google mail tags [21:36:27] mutante, as you wish... we can even discuss the details if needed, and just wait for the right date to create it. [21:36:47] ok [21:40:06] qgil: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T601 [21:46:35] poke`, replied [21:46:43] thanks! [21:47:35] Thank you too, glad someone could help me after all ;) [21:49:06] I really like how Phabricator looks.. [21:57:26] qgil: and another one. i got a ticket from the design team on phab earlier :p [21:57:45] 599 [21:58:06] that was before we talked.. well it's also in RT.. either or [22:19:06] chasemp: twentyafterfour : was there a "real name" field i could use to display my full name instead of my LDAP user? [22:19:28] looked in account settings [22:20:23] Real name is put next to username like nick (real name)...is in profile settings? Idk [22:20:52] mutante: you need to go to your user profile and "edit profile" [22:22:13] twentyafterfour: ah! i see, thanks. so i already have Real Name there, it just didn't seem to be used on a ticket [22:22:28] looks again [22:22:48] * mutante saves IRC nick :) [22:23:29] sees "MediaWiki Userpage: Unknown" but doesn't see it in Edit screen [22:25:36] Add your SUL account with the mediawiki oauth [22:27:48] makes sense. wasn't sure what i should use. used labs so far [22:28:01] should we agree on one within ops? [22:28:05] or doesnt matter [22:28:36] Doesn't matter [22:28:40] You can link both to one account for backup [22:28:44] But link both if you have both [22:28:46] I am now [22:28:54] * mutante nods [22:29:14] Settings ... External auth...select mediawiki [22:29:22] I think is the path [22:30:37] wait.. but which mediawiki account. (WMF) ? Reedy , hehe [22:30:57] multiple mw accounts can be linked? [22:34:14] One MW account, and its setup for SUL [22:38:07] mutante, for these real tasks without projects as of yet, I recommend you to keep using RT, Bugzilla, or whatever we used before the RphC :) It's just a few weeks [22:40:33] qgil: awww.. ok :) [22:40:59] qgil: well, in those cases the excitement is that we didnt use anything before [22:41:07] and any system is so much better than my inbox [22:41:19] in that case, yes, and they are very welcome [22:42:12] I'm just concerned about the RT and Bugzilla walls trembling these days, and reports start leaking, duplicated, etc. [22:42:43] But Phabricator is better than private email always [22:42:53] well, "always" [22:53:24] jorm reports he can't login on phab with wiki SUL [22:53:42] qgil: *nod* [22:57:00] mutante, what is the error message? [22:57:18] anyway, jorm can join this channel :) [23:05:18] qgil: false alarm, works for him now [23:06:13] I should have bet a dinner :) [23:08:40] do we have a short link yet to link from gerrit commit messages to phab? [23:10:00] i'll try to add one [23:13:39] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/165923/1/templates/gerrit/gerrit.config.erb [23:13:45] ^d: ^ [23:16:27] mutante: I think qchris had a patch. [23:16:51] Yup. [23:16:54] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/164880/ [23:17:44] its-phabricator will need the commentlink's name to be "its-phabricator" [23:18:01] And the number has to be the first group of the regexp. [23:18:02] oh, just "T" ? [23:18:16] That's what phabricator uses ... doesn't it. [23:18:23] (In comments and such) [23:18:39] also "P" for the pastebins? [23:18:53] and D for diff(erential)s [23:19:56] The Ts are special though (I guess), as its-phabricator will set the status (or tag) there. [23:23:27] merged qchris' version [23:23:32] Thanks! [23:25:11] Seems to work. The T169 on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/164880/ is linkified. [23:26:02] nice! [23:26:42] yep, this is as well. that's what made me want to add it https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/165927/ [23:32:09] * bd808 nabbed P1 but doesn't know what to put there yet [23:33:39] first!!!!!1111oneoneone [23:34:39] I also magically got T1 from the import process [23:34:54] I think I should replace it's content with bug #1 at some point [23:35:38] project 1, task 1 and paste 1 :) [23:38:38] bd808: how? i already had P3 [23:39:00] bd808: yea, bug 1 is alwasy good, "missing docs" , right [23:39:24] bd808: you might want to wait for the redirects though [23:39:28] I just announced. I got it on the day the free reg opened up [23:39:38] gotcha [23:40:32] I'm also tempted to make T1 be "people are wrong on the internet" [23:42:30] T1 should be the bug that T1 isn't that