[00:08:56] Dzahn updated subscribers of T599: A subdomain for the online annual report. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T599 [00:10:04] Eloquence added a comment to T599: A subdomain for the online annual report. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T599 [01:12:32] MZMcBride updated subscribers of T599: A subdomain for the online annual report. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T599 [01:29:35] MZMcBride awarded T602: Testing with Nick a Evil Spooky Haunted Tree token. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T602 [01:29:48] Eloquence added a comment to T599: A subdomain for the online annual report. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T599 [01:33:25] Jesus another channel? [01:33:49] you love it [01:33:52] Keegan is in here? [01:33:58] #wikimedia-dev got killed by that bot. [01:34:04] It's too noisy, so people just splinter off. [01:34:25] I made a bugs page for Phabricator. [01:34:35] Because I couldn't figure out where to file bugs about it. [01:34:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Bugs [01:34:47] just file them in phab [01:35:06] and don't swear. bad carmela. [01:35:19] tokens are delicious. [01:35:41] I gave someone a rotting tree or something. [01:35:45] I think I gave it to a task. [01:35:47] I'm still not sure. [01:36:07] > MZMcBride awarded T602: Testing with Nick a Evil Spooky Haunted Tree token. [06:17:30] Eloquence created T664: Please create WMF-Product-Strategy project. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T664 [06:28:38] Qgil closed T664: Please create WMF-Product-Strategy project as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T664 [07:15:28] Eloquence added a comment to T664: Please create WMF-Product-Strategy project. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T664 [08:47:05] Qgil added a comment to T565: Recruit a Technical Writer for the Engineering Community team. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T565 [08:48:46] Qgil updated subscribers of T565: Recruit a Technical Writer for the Engineering Community team. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T565 [09:11:53] Eloquence created T665: Add developer personas. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T665 [09:12:45] Eloquence moved T665: Add developer personas to October to-do on the WMF-Product-Strategy workboard. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T665 [09:17:07] Eloquence created T666: Document product/release cycle. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T666 [09:17:27] Eloquence moved T666: Document product/release cycle to October to-do on the WMF-Product-Strategy workboard. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T666 [09:20:10] Eloquence created T667: Vet Q2 measures of success. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T667 [09:21:03] Eloquence added a project to T667: Vet Q2 measures of success: WMF-Product-Strategy. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T667 [09:21:20] Eloquence moved T667: Vet Q2 measures of success to October to-do on the WMF-Product-Strategy workboard. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T667 [09:31:54] jayvdb updated subscribers of T610: Tie item and file page histories. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T610 [09:33:34] Eloquence created T668: Collect Q3 priorities input. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T668 [09:33:50] Eloquence added a project to T668: Collect Q3 priorities input: WMF-Product-Strategy. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T668 [09:34:09] Eloquence moved T668: Collect Q3 priorities input to December 2014: To-do on the WMF-Product-Strategy workboard. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T668 [11:02:53] zeljkofilipin created T669: Refactor Jenkins Job Builder files. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T669 [11:36:42] zeljkofilipin added a comment to T669: Refactor Jenkins Job Builder files. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T669 [14:24:43] Qgil added a comment to T552: https://bugzillapreview.wmflabs.org/ migration preview instance. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T552 [15:42:56] I tend to agree w/ Carmela that the bot noise in -dev makes it difficult to keep tabs on for human interaction [15:43:03] and I think we are facing that here now [15:43:25] I guess some people really like this bot chatter but I find it makes the channel barely useable [16:02:59] Qgil added a comment to T36: Migrate Trello data to Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36 [16:04:23] Qgil added a comment to T37: Migrate Mingle data to Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37 [16:06:22] Qgil added a comment to T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released.. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T435 [16:06:44] chasemp updated subscribers of T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released.. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T435 [16:06:53] Qgil updated subscribers of T434: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release.. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434 [16:07:48] Qgil added a project to T434: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release.: Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434 [16:08:28] Qgil updated subscribers of T436: Weekly assessment of WMF Eng Team migration to Phab proj management after release. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T436 [16:08:59] Qgil added a project to T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released.: Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T435 [16:35:55] DaBPunkt created T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [16:51:21] Krenair edited the description of T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released.. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T435 [17:10:08] jeremyb-phone updated subscribers of T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [17:16:47] jeremyb-phone added a comment to T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [17:17:56] Rfarrand added a comment to T565: Recruit a Technical Writer for the Engineering Community team. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T565 [17:18:41] chasemp updated subscribers of T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [17:23:07] chasemp added a comment to T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [17:30:53] Krenair closed T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain as "Invalid". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [17:31:18] Krenair updated subscribers of T670: Uses JavaScript from external domain. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T670 [17:32:06] Rfarrand created T671: Promote the link to this job opening in the MediaWiki social media channels. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T671 [17:32:26] Rfarrand closed T671: Promote the link to this job opening in the MediaWiki social media channels, a task blocking T565: Recruit a Technical Writer for the Engineering Community team, as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T565 [17:33:18] Rfarrand added a comment to T671: Promote the link to this job opening in the MediaWiki social media channels. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T671 [17:36:02] ... Was that task created as closed? [17:44:13] Florian created T672: Don't load css on pages, they don't need it. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T672 [17:59:57] Krenair: Looks like it [18:00:21] Krenair: can be useful for workboards / parent bugs [18:14:35] greg added a comment to T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released.. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T435 [18:17:27] greg-g, does phabricator support creating bugs by email? [18:53:04] dduvall created P15 Flow browser test failures (gerrit change 166780). [18:54:38] andre__, do you know? [19:49:24] Krenair: task@phabricator.wikimedia.org [19:50:53] ok [19:51:26] Can you set up an address to go to a certain project? [19:51:50] (I'm thinking OTRS-style) [19:52:11] tbh I'm not sure if you can specify projects to link in a creation email [19:52:34] it would seem like you should be able too [19:53:43] could also be parsing the subject line maybe? (if not multiple email addresses) [19:53:45] certain security settings etc.? [19:54:02] could reporter email address stay private? [19:54:42] ok so creating via email and creating via email anonymously [19:54:45] two different things [19:55:08] if your email is in phab and you send a new task it gets treated like any new task from you [19:55:22] if it's not currently it dumps you back saying, please make an account [19:55:33] andre came up w/ anonymous reporting numbers and they are basically null [19:55:47] and the ones that have existed over 8 years were not useful, as I understand it [19:57:41] I ask because the mobile queues in OTRS receive all android crash reports and email feedback for android & ios [19:58:08] ah [19:58:24] so we have a few special cases for ops like maintenance@ [19:58:32] that get routed specially from anon emails and for a specific project [19:59:00] so yes it can be done if I understand but it's hooking into some custom logic [19:59:03] sounds similar [19:59:24] hashar updated subscribers of T669: Refactor Jenkins Job Builder files. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T669 [19:59:26] that could be not the right place for that tho, depending on volume [19:59:45] crash reports get a LOT of duplicate reports from different people [19:59:58] hashar moved T669: Refactor Jenkins Job Builder files to In-progress on the Release-Engineering workboard. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T669 [20:00:06] would need to be able to send emails back and forth as well in some cases [20:00:34] they are working on another queue like app for "Nuance is a work queue for high-volume human tasks, like user support, social media management, and content review." [20:00:39] hashar awarded T669: Refactor Jenkins Job Builder files a Like token. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T669 [20:00:41] that is for cases where maniphest isn't quite the fit [20:00:46] that may be a better bet [20:00:48] but I haven't used it [20:00:52] That sounds interesting. [20:01:17] could enable it in phab-01 [20:01:18] and take a peak [20:01:20] (Honestly I wonder how much of OTRS that could replace lol) [20:01:43] annd now I am confused by Phabricator. How one can change the priority of a task? I moved T669 to the 'in-progress' column but it still has Priority: Needs Triage [20:01:56] priority is not the same as workboard [20:02:06] the "triage" group still exists for accessing priority field [20:02:10] but it's just another field [20:02:28] so only selected people can triage / set priorities right? [20:02:30] hashar, you join the "triage" group and click 'Edit task' on the task [20:02:35] it's just a voluntary group [20:02:39] only people who sign themselves up to the group [20:02:44] it's use has been debated [20:02:47] it's open signup [20:03:00] yeah that is cumbersome :D [20:03:18] I would expect only Project manager / Product owner to be able to set the priorities of tasks [20:03:47] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T583 [20:04:05] well priority isn't hidden in bugzilla at all [20:04:16] so I have no opinion but it wouldn't be a straight translation [20:05:13] I don't really have any either. I am just asking newbie questions :D [20:06:19] If only every task would have an active project manager/owner :p [20:07:02] hashar updated subscribers of T583: Get rid of Triagers for now. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T583 [20:07:09] chasemp: thanks for the link! [20:07:34] are you triaging a ticket to remove triagers? [20:07:48] :D [20:08:02] hashar triaged T669: Refactor Jenkins Job Builder files as "Normal" priority. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T669 [20:08:52] and yet another question: can we change the priority colors ? :D [20:09:24] Krenair updated subscribers of T583: Get rid of Triagers for now. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T583 [20:10:29] yes we can [20:10:42] but obviously affects everyone [20:11:02] I was looking for a user preference. [20:11:15] I will just tweak them in my browser :) [20:11:19] ah [20:11:23] no it's global [20:15:09] bah .phui-object-item-bar-color-orange :D [20:22:17] chasemp created T673: need to get a list of usernames matched by emails from rt. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T673 [20:23:50] chasemp created T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [20:24:23] chasemp created T675: need to figure out how to redirect mail for a particular rt queue. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T675 [20:24:44] chasemp created T676: need to figure out how to match up existing rt perms for queues w/ a custom policy for projects in phab. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T676 [20:25:04] chasemp edited the description of T676: need to figure out how to match up existing rt perms for queues w/ a custom policy for projects in phab. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T676 [20:26:23] chasemp edited the description of T673: need to get a list of usernames matched by emails from rt. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T673 [20:32:59] hashar updated subscribers of T645: Document phawikibugs setup. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T645 [21:01:01] Qgil closed T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released., a task blocking T434: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release., as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434 [21:01:01] Qgil closed T435: Create list of WMF engineering teams and their project management tool in use before prod phab is released. as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T435 [21:01:47] Qgil removed a project from T434: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release.: Release-Engineering. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434 [21:02:49] Qgil awarded T671: Promote the link to this job opening in the MediaWiki social media channels a Yellow Medal token. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T671 [21:08:47] Qgil updated tasks of T618: Send two email notifications to active Bugzilla users asking them to join Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T618 [21:12:20] Qgil updated tasks of T552: https://bugzillapreview.wmflabs.org/ migration preview instance. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T552 [21:16:34] Qgil updated tasks of T552: https://bugzillapreview.wmflabs.org/ migration preview instance. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T552 [21:26:53] Qgil updated subscribers of T667: Vet Q2 measures of success. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T667 [21:27:28] Qgil updated subscribers of T668: Collect Q3 priorities input. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T668 [21:27:52] Qgil updated subscribers of T665: Add developer personas. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T665 [21:34:18] Qgil added a comment to T36: Migrate Trello data to Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36 [21:37:17] Qgil added a comment to T37: Migrate Mingle data to Phabricator. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37 [21:38:04] Dzahn updated subscribers of T599: A subdomain for the online annual report. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T599 [21:45:23] Rfarrand added a comment to T566: All WMF Engineers should be registered for the MediaWiki Developers Summit 2015. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T566 [21:49:23] Qgil closed T661: SUL finalization as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T661 [21:55:08] valhallasw added a comment to T645: Document phawikibugs setup. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T645 [21:56:09] Rfarrand added a comment to T567: Decide on MediaWiki Developer Summit scholarships by the end of Oct. . https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T567 [21:59:49] mmodell added a comment to T583: Get rid of Triagers for now. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T583 [22:06:57] Dzahn added a comment to T673: need to get a list of usernames matched by emails from rt. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T673 [22:09:11] Dzahn closed T673: need to get a list of usernames matched by emails from rt as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T673 [22:10:22] I can haz admin on phab-01? [22:10:52] twentyafterfour: shell or phab itself? [22:10:59] phab it's self [22:11:24] I already had shell so I suppose I could add myself as an admin ...hmm [22:12:03] i can add people to the labs project and make you even project admin to make phab-02 to phab-99.. but i dont think i can do the web ui [22:12:37] well, not without resetting it [22:20:01] Dzahn added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [22:29:40] what the heck..so i can remove the "create ticket" permission but still create tickets on RT [22:29:55] must be because i'm in ops but i dont see it currently [22:51:57] Dzahn added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [22:54:06] chasemp added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [22:54:26] Dzahn added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [23:10:28] Dzahn added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [23:11:11] Dzahn closed T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only as "Resolved". https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [23:12:11] Dzahn added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674 [23:12:51] Dzahn added a comment to T674: need to figure out how to make an rt queue read-only. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T674