[00:00:13] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) [00:03:46] legoktm: you could try the phugly regexp way, something like PHID-XACT-TASK-cxejod3ned73i73\/","ref":"(.*?)" for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T857 [00:03:55] (doesn't quite work, but might work with some fiddling) [00:03:59] that basically parses the javascript [00:04:18] one last option is loading the ")[0][:-1]) [00:06:01] but time for bed, so good luck playing with that :-p [01:20:26] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Identify Enterprise Wikis from List of Fortune 1000 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1133 (10Palexis) @Dzhan, the information is indeed hard to find. An email campaign was something that we thought about a month or two ago and may be useful and deserving of another look. Thanks for th... [01:27:34] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) [01:53:16] 3Phabricator.org, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Phabricator shows avatars consistently against user names, which some users may dislike - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65 (10Quiddity) @qgil What did the attachment (F13805) look like? I'd be in favour of a black & white & grey image, based off the community l... [01:55:07] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Identify Enterprise Wikis from List of Fortune 1000 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1133 (10Dzahn) fwiw, there is also a bug that suggests adding some kind of opt-in "call home" feature to the wiki installer, so people who install mediawikis could allow it to report to us automatically... [01:59:50] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Compile a List of MediaWiki Third Party Customers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T951 (10Dzahn) here's some more URLs in this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36570 [02:02:23] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Link to survey on 1.24 installer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1113 (10Dzahn) also see this related bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54425 [02:02:51] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Identify Enterprise Wikis from List of Fortune 1000 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1133 (10Dzahn) this is the bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54425 [02:05:23] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Dzahn) i have about 53,783 wikis on http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/ of which 14,170 are listed as "single" wikis, not being part of clusters/hives/wikifarms, and the rest are one table per farm. i can provide rel... [02:15:44] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) @Dzahn, when can we get a csv file !?! :) [02:26:37] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Dzahn) >>! In T1136#19744, @Palexis wrote: > @Dzahn, when can we get a csv file !?! :) start here: http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/api.php?action=dump&table=mediawikis&format=csv and here: http://wikistats.wm... [03:00:40] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) @Dzahn, I have the two files: Largest MediaWikis (5,001) and MediaWikis (14,185). Can you provide version info for Largest MediaWikis? On the MediaWikis, I see version info for some of the wikis. [03:06:55] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) [03:06:56] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Query WikiApiary Database for MW Third Party Information - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1134 (10Palexis) [03:10:06] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Dzahn) "largest" is only 5001 because of an arbitrary limit in the code, should be way more. and yes, but i need to run scripts for that, i'll check tomorrow to provide something better [05:07:40] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Mattflaschen) I'm assuming this means show-stoppers for the POC. Something might be good enough for the POC, but we might not be sure whether it's good enough for everything. Also, is this meant to include... [05:10:17] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Mattflaschen) For now, I'll add some potential arcanist blockers (open for discussion). [05:11:13] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Mattflaschen) [05:12:11] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Mattflaschen) [05:14:55] 3Phabricator.org, Code-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Pulling patches from Phabricator does not give consistent commit hashes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136 (10Mattflaschen) p:5Low>3Normal [05:19:35] 3Code-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Uploading a new Differential Revision does not reset “Accept” states in commit messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164 (10Mattflaschen) At T135#1950, @qchris said even with the Gerrit-like differential.sticky-accept setting, "It seems the “Accept” survives as “R... [05:22:27] 3Code-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Identify features Gerrit users would miss in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T23 (10Mattflaschen) [05:22:42] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Mattflaschen) [05:39:47] 3Phabricator: Replace default avatar icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256 (10Mattflaschen) The proposed replacement (F8588) is a broken link. I'm not sure if it's here under a different F-number, or needs to be re-uploaded. [06:30:35] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Complete Bugzilla migration test review period - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T843 (10Nemo_bis) [06:33:22] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Remove wikibugs-l@ as default assignee from imported Bugzilla tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1116 (10Nemo_bis) Makes sense, but need to double check if email settings differ and what would be the output for the mailing list. [07:08:16] 3Phabricator: Replace default avatar icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256 (10Qgil) fab attachments were not migrated. @thiemowmde, do you still have your avatar proposal? [07:13:27] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Qgil) This task focuses on Arcanist alone. It would be interesting to list here all blockers, highlighting blockers for the POC if needed. {T167} focuses on code review (Differential). {T31} Focuses on conti... [07:25:00] 3Phabricator: Replace default avatar icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256 (10Qgil) [07:26:06] 3Phabricator.org, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Phabricator shows avatars consistently against user names, which some users may dislike - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65 (10Qgil) [07:36:32] 3ECT-October-2014, ECT-November-2014, Engineering-Community: Recruit Google Code-in 2014 mentors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T924 (10Qgil) [08:34:03] legoktm: oh, you're still awake :-p [08:34:23] I just came back from a movie :P [08:34:27] Big Hero 6 <3 [08:34:33] see my e-mail on javascript scraping :-D [08:35:25] "a puffy, lovable robot to the rescue" [08:36:10] release date: Netherlands 11 February 2015 [08:36:19] hahaha your subject line [08:36:21] awww :((( [08:36:42] it's as if they want me to download it [08:40:01] valhallasw`cloud: I'm too tired to play around with your screen scraping right now, but I gave you push access to the repo if you want to play around with it :P [08:40:59] I have to do science for the next eight hours :-p [08:43:33] :D [08:43:39] well I'll be awake by then hopefull [08:43:39] y [09:11:02] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Scrum of scrums dependency matrix mapping equivalent in phabricator? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T842 (10Qgil) Related thread, where a suggestion has been made to maintain this very specialized view in an interesting and apparently emerging innovative te... [09:19:06] 3Bug-Report, Bugzilla-Migration: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763 (10Qgil) [09:22:52] 3Phabricator: Testing T1077 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1143 (10Qgil) [09:25:11] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077 (10Qgil) [09:25:31] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077 (10Qgil) [09:25:31] 3Phabricator: Testing T1077 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1143 (10Qgil) [09:26:33] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Works for me: {T1143} [09:32:51] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation by email is unclear - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T865 (10Qgil) [09:38:16] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation by email is unclear - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T865 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Volunteer? While local hacks in the Phabricator UI are not trivial and create maintenance overhead, the Wikimedia Phabricator homepage has a link to "Phabricator Help", where thanks to @valhallasw... [09:39:01] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation by email is unclear - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T865 (10valhallasw) Text defined here: https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/3cf9a5820fc9887f1454decc47c234fedb134c6a/src/applications/maniphest/controller/ManiphestTaskEditController.php#L683 but it can be translate... [09:45:00] 3Phabricator.org, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Configure applications with public permissions (and user profiles) to not require users to login - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Volunteer? >>! In T57#17177, @Qgil wrote: > I just filed [[ https://secure.phabricator.com/T6427 | "Show De... [09:46:52] 3Phabricator.org, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Configure applications with public permissions (and user profiles) to not require users to login - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57 (10Qgil) [09:55:52] 3operations, Code-Review, Gitblit-Deprecate, Phabricator: Make @catrope an administrator in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T836 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low This discussion is not about @catrope, but about principles to accept new admins here. >>! In T836#14063, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: > Edit: A... [09:56:19] 3Phabricator, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Configure the default styling to have a bit bigger font size - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T81 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [09:56:52] 3Phabricator: Reduce maniphest prefix/prepend for email subject from [Maniphest] to [M] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T947 (10Qgil) [10:04:43] 3security, Phabricator, operations, Project-Management: Broaden the group of users that can create projects in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 (10Qgil) [10:06:04] 3Phabricator: New project: "Wikimedia Incident Response" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T929 (10Qgil) >>! In T929#16146, @greg wrote: > We can probably just copy the very verbose method I used on the incident response wiki pages: YYYYMMDD-ServiceName, probably precede with Incident- to make it clear what's... [10:07:14] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: subtasks are not clearly visualized on tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T867 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:08:09] 3Project-Management, Multimedia, Phabricator.org: Show task Story Points sums in workboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T803 (10Qgil) This is also an important feature for the Moble teams. [10:09:55] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Qgil) A GCi task? [10:15:23] 3Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints or releases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819 (10Qgil) [10:15:58] 3Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints or releases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819 (10Qgil) [10:19:44] 3Phabricator: Approve the Phabricator project guidelines - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T705 (10Qgil) > Posting this here because it's probably not worth an own task... Ah, the right place for this topic is {T819}. [10:20:50] 3Phabricator.org: Projects dropdown should offer project descriptions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:22:48] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Phabricator is unfriendly to assistive technology - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:26:18] 3Project-Management, Multimedia: Ability to tell blocked tickets apart on a single workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T846 (10Qgil) [10:27:06] 3Phabricator.org, Code-Review: Workboard cards could show other projects tasks belong to - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T683 (10Qgil) [10:28:35] 3Project-Management, Multimedia: Ability to tell blocked tickets apart on a single workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T846 (10Gilles) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Gilles Yeah, that would work, good idea! We preferred the property in Mingle because it lets us leave it in its current progression stage, but... [10:31:21] 3Project-Management: "changed Security from none to none." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T479 (10Qgil) p:5Low>3Normal Do we have any idea whether the Bugzilla and RT migrated tasks will inherit this problem as well? [10:36:50] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation by email is unclear - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T865 (10Qgil) Ah, good point. Yes, strings can be modified locally using the localization feature. However, I'm not sure you can add links there. (?) [10:49:11] 3Project-Management: Enable the Calendar app in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T466 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:12] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: SVG attachments are not displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1016 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:12] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:14] 3Phabricator: Convert Bugzilla's "Bug NNNNN" links to "TNNNNN" links in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T687 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:15] 3Phabricator: Convert wiki links in Bugzilla comments in links in Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T875 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:15] 3Phabricator: Converting "See Also" Bugzilla links to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T697 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:16] 3Phabricator: Convert Gerrit links in Bugzilla comments in links in Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T873 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:17] 3Legalpad, Patch-For-Review, Phabricator: Make mediawiki username searchable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T783 (10Qgil) [10:49:17] 3Phabricator: Respect programmatic (custom regex) links in Bugzilla comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T850 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:18] 3Phabricator: Convert RT links in Bugzilla comments in links in Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T874 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:19] 3Phabricator: Define process for people to request a "bot" account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T551 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:20] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team, Project-Management, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Install PHPExcel so I can export reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:49:21] 3Phabricator: "MediaWiki Userpage: Unknown" on Phabricator user profiles is tacky - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T903 (10Qgil) [10:49:22] 3Phabricator: MediaWiki OAuth dialog text is unclear and sounds more scary than it is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T598 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [10:52:51] 3Project-Management: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434 (10Qgil) [10:52:52] 3Phabricator: Weekly assessment of WMF Eng Team migration to Phab proj management after release - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T436 (10Qgil) [10:58:46] 3Legalpad, Phabricator: Linking MediaWiki account without global account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T601 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil Wikimedia Phabricator cannot process non-SUL accounts because SUL an OAuth are closely related. The solution for problems with SUL is... to solve their SUL pro... [11:13:06] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597 (10Qgil) [12:15:40] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Remove wikibugs-l@ as default assignee from imported Bugzilla tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1116 (10Aklapper) Nemo_bis: What would be "email settings" in this context? [12:42:29] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Aklapper) [12:55:03] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Qgil) We are talking about a wiki page that serves as a list of the main projects (the ones that are important on its own and the ones that act as umbrella of many others). Something like (if only our Bugzilla t... [12:57:51] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Qgil) Also, this is a task that @Micru and/or @Quiddity could mentor. You just need to know about Wikimedia, editing wiki pages, and searching projects in Phabricator to mentor this one. [13:00:01] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Qgil) (Sorry, apparently my brain cannot have all ideas at once) ... and with https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi as starting point, a student cannot go too too wrong, with just a bit of guida... [13:15:56] 3Legalpad, Phabricator: Linking MediaWiki account without global account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T601 (10poke) I don’t know when the SUL finalization is supposed to happen (couldn’t find any up-to-date ETA) but until it happens, non-developers will essentially have no way of getting into Phabricator.... [13:32:02] yay Google Code-in AND Phabricator user documentation! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in_2014#Wikimedia_Phabricator_HowTo_screencasts [13:32:20] andre__, I think I don't owe you anything else GCi for now ^^^^ [13:32:40] well, maybe thinking something for the promotion category... [13:32:41] oh nice, thank you! [13:32:58] yeah, I'm also going to spend more time thinking about such tasks :-/ [13:33:15] research category is hard as usual [13:34:12] andre__, you might want to check with Abbey, Dario, and Aaron Halfaker, just in case they have gnome-ish microtasks related with their research activities... [13:34:23] I will think something on the outreach side [13:34:26] will do. thanks! [13:34:36] (Nuria added one task at least already) [13:34:47] actually... I have an idea, but I want to run it through RachelF first mwah wah wah [13:35:22] great [13:39:43] 3Legalpad, Phabricator: Linking MediaWiki account without global account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T601 (10Qgil) SUL Finalization is happening... but I don't know exact dates. However, is waiting for this finalization the only solution possible? Can't you get your username fixed by the stewards in the... [13:49:38] 3Legalpad, Phabricator: Linking MediaWiki account without global account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T601 (10poke) [13:49:59] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) Thanks, @Dzhan. [13:51:10] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Extract and Sort WikiApiary Database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1136 (10Palexis) [13:56:46] 3operations: Setup disk space free checks for all opted-in hosts in shinken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1144 (10yuvipanda) 3NEW p:3Triage a:3yuvipanda [13:57:52] 3operations: Make minimalpuppetagent collector more robust to puppet failure events - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1145 (10yuvipanda) 3NEW p:3Triage a:3yuvipanda [14:45:01] Playtime - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1146 (10JanWMF) [14:45:04] 3operations: WMF hhvm-dbg package is broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T760 (10Joe) [15:23:58] 3Community-Engagement: Playtime - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1146 (10Qgil) Hi @JanWMF! The idea would be to create tasks for our topics of discussion that can associated to a specific goal, to something that we know when we have completed it or given up. For instance, propose/support the Wikimedia Japa... [15:24:11] 3Engineering-Community: Connect Wikimedia chapters, Google Developer Groups, and computer science university departments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T925 (10Qgil) [15:30:19] Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10chasemp) 3NEW p:3Triage [15:30:53] Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10chasemp) [15:31:03] 3operations: Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10chasemp) [15:31:15] 3Phabricator, operations: Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10chasemp) [15:31:36] 3Phabricator, operations: Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10chasemp) [15:34:30] 3Phabricator, operations: Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10Qgil) [15:35:02] 3Phabricator, operations: Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:48:53] 3Phabricator, Engineering-Community, ECT-November-2014: Projects for outreach programs (FOSS OPW, Google Code-in...) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1148 (10Qgil) 3NEW p:3Normal a:3Qgil [15:50:50] 3ECT-November-2014, Engineering-Community, ECT-October-2014: Prepare Wikimedia's participation in Google Code-In - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T561 (10Qgil) [15:56:21] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40 (10Qgil) [15:57:45] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40 (10chasemp) I have no qualms with perf testing, but in all honestly this is such a minimal shim of logic that you would have to stress the entire server... [15:58:24] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40 (10Qgil) OK, I'm happy to read this coming from you. I simply had to ask. :) [16:14:55] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10mark) [16:15:43] 3Legalpad, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide how to organize projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43 (10mark) [16:15:44] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10mark) 5Resolved>3Open [16:19:04] 3Phabricator: New project: "Wikimedia Incident Response" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T929 (10greg) >>! In T929#19819, @Qgil wrote: >>>! In T929#16146, @greg wrote: >> We can probably just copy the very verbose method I used on the incident response wiki pages: YYYYMMDD-ServiceName, probably precede with... [16:19:38] 3Phabricator: "Patch-For-Review" should be updated if the status in Gerrit changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1149 (10Qgil) [16:27:07] 3Phabricator: New project: "Wikimedia Incident Response" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T929 (10Qgil) >>! In T929#19942, @greg wrote: > Except that's not how we use them :) Context matters! Thank you for the explanation. Then yes, your proposal makes total sense. If @aklapper also agrees, let's do it this... [16:30:33] 3Phabricator: "Patch-For-Review" should be updated if the status in Gerrit changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1149 (10valhallasw) Current behavior in Bugzilla is not doing anything with the 'PATCH_TO_REVIEW' status and leave it to the humans. However, it's no longer a status in Phab, so 'removing' is a... [16:33:29] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10Qgil) [16:36:55] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10Qgil) [16:39:08] 3Phabricator: "Patch-For-Review" should be updated if the status in Gerrit changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1149 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low True, in Bugzilla the update is left for humans. Setting Low priority, then (only because I'm trying to keep as "Normal" only the tasks that require quick atten... [16:40:35] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10mark) Hmm, maybe, we can experiment with it. I do think that "Needs Info" is a rather specific case of a status for a ticket which can't progress, wouldn't it be be... [16:55:09] 3Phabricator.org: Workboards don't update live when other users move tasks around - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1137 (10Qgil) [16:57:03] 3Phabricator: New project: "Wikimedia Incident Response" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T929 (10greg) >>! In T929#19952, @Qgil wrote: > Context matters! Thank you for the explanation. Then yes, your proposal makes total sense. :) :) [17:04:48] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10Qgil) I agree that "Needs Info" can be renamed to something more generic. Also, we put a lot of effort trying to reduce the number of options for Status and other se... [17:16:21] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077 (10MarkAHershberger) I realize this works for most people so it isn't a high priority. Could someone who has access to the logs (@chasemp? @dzahn?) look to see if my emails are actually received (I've provi... [17:24:35] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator-Production-Instance: Decide which task statuses we want to have in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212 (10Aklapper) In my brain "Needs info" vaguely translates to "blocked on somebody or something" which is close enough to "Stalled" or "Waiting". Both works for me. We n... [17:43:37] 3Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration: Migrate Bugzilla to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T15 (10Aklapper) [17:45:01] 3operations, Code-Review, Gitblit-Deprecate, Phabricator: Make @catrope an administrator in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T836 (10Chad) [17:47:22] 3operations: Add a way for self hosted labs puppetmasters to auto update themselves - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1150 (10yuvipanda) 3NEW p:3Triage a:3yuvipanda [17:50:04] 3operations: Add a way for self hosted labs puppetmasters to auto update themselves - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1150 (10yuvipanda) a:5yuvipanda>3None [18:27:46] 3Phabricator: Phabricator on labs has failed cronjob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1151 (10yuvipanda) 3NEW p:3Triage [18:32:33] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team: Review Wikidata query service doc (WikiGrok) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T812 (10aaron) [18:36:49] 3Phabricator: Phabricator on labs has failed cronjob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1151 (10Qgil) (Should we have a projects for phab-01 or the Labs instances in general?) [18:36:59] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833 (10Aklapper) ...and I am very happy to (co-)mentor this task! Anybody willing to add this to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in_2014#Proposed_tasks ? (I might do so if nobody is faster) @Micru and/or @... [18:40:40] 3Phabricator: Phabricator on labs has failed cronjob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1151 (10chasemp) a:3chasemp [18:44:02] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Document availability of Phabricator during the Bugzilla migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T473 (10chasemp) We should have a page on the wiki that explains all of this (who/what/when/where/how long). I will work on having users who try to visit phab redirected to that page durin... [19:08:35] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Complete Bugzilla migration test review period - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T843 (10Aklapper) @Nemo_bis: I don't think we have the capacity on Labs to import all tickets from Bugzilla so we provided a sample. Do you have specific tickets that you'd like to test for certain things (I'm... [19:16:42] 3Phabricator, operations: Project Proposal: Label style projects for common operations tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1147 (10Dzahn) [19:39:49] 3Phabricator: Phabricator on labs has failed cronjob - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1151 (10Dzahn) i think you can look at it 2 ways, either testing is part of every normal project, so labs things would simply be #phabricator things, just like any other project in theory has a labs instance for testing/bet... [19:51:22] 3Librarization, MediaWiki-Core-Team: Librarization wishlist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1118 (10bd808) [19:51:36] 3Librarization, MediaWiki-Core-Team: Librarization wishlist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1118 (10bd808) [19:57:47] 3Phabricator.org, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC: Dependency tree view of tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96 (10Qgil) For what is worth, there is "a five minute hack which adds a very, very rough graph view field when dropped into phabricator/src/extensions/": https://secure.phabricator.com/T4207#52492 [19:59:56] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152 (10valhallasw) 3NEW p:3Triage [20:01:30] 3ECT-November-2014, WMF-Legal, Engineering-Community: Implement the Volunteer NDA process in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T655 (10Dzahn) Hi Quim, so in RT we have "#8227: Define the RT process for volunteer NDAs" RT #8227 (https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=8227) still open. Wha... [20:08:41] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152 (10valhallasw) lalala geld [20:09:53] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152 (10valhallasw) fdsa [20:23:57] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152 (10valhallasw) some more testing [20:24:51] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152 (10valhallasw) [20:25:23] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40 (10Dzahn) [20:35:20] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Move Bugzilla to old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org as a read-only instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366 (10Dzahn) >>! In T366#16004, @Qgil wrote: > A frequent question: how long will old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org be available? Can we say something like: > >> At this point we have no plan... [20:38:02] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Move Bugzilla to old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org as a read-only instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366 (10Aklapper) [20:39:01] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40 (10Aklapper) We cannot emulate Bugzilla's saved searches (and their parameters) in Phab. One idea is to still redirect URLs containing "buglist.cgi" to... [20:41:35] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team: Re-juggle shard and replica counts in Elasticsearch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T999 (10Chad) 5Open>3Resolved This is done & live. [20:41:36] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team: CirrusSearch enwiki rollout - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T997 (10Chad) [20:42:40] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Needs info [20:50:39] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152#20027 (10valhallasw) ...here, have another test [20:50:49] 3Wiki-Release-Team: Query WikiApiary Database for MW Third Party Information - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1134#20028 (10Palexis) [20:50:57] :D [20:51:35] look at dem anchors [20:51:38] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs2 does not have links to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1121#20029 (10Legoktm) [20:51:50] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs2 does not have links to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1121 (10Legoktm) https://github.com/legoktm/wikibugs2/commit/81dc0a2023c8e7654b96bf1daff893fe336dd1da [20:52:00] no anchor :( [20:52:11] oh, because phab grouped it [20:52:21] if you do two things too quickly together [20:52:29] it should take the lowest anchor then [20:52:46] luckily I log ALL the errors ;D [20:53:04] man, you guys got this down :) [20:53:08] * YuviPanda continues clearing out cronspam [20:58:27] 3ECT-October-2014, ECT-November-2014, Engineering-Community: Recruit Google Code-in 2014 mentors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T924#20032 (10Aklapper) Updates in mentor recruitment land since my last comment: * DONE: Asked on design list again with some proposals: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/desi... [21:00:43] 3ECT-October-2014, ECT-November-2014, Engineering-Community: Recruit Google Code-in 2014 mentors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T924 (10Qgil) [21:07:35] legoktm: ahahaha oh this is horribl [21:07:36] e [21:07:46] the javascript included depends on whether one is logged in or not [21:07:48] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Move Bugzilla to old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org as a read-only instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366#20034 (10Qgil) @Dzahn, every single line you wrote makes sense to me. This is a better solution. [21:07:54] so if I'm logged in I can get the anchor for those composite events [21:07:58] not so much if I'm logged out [21:08:22] uck :/ [21:08:39] I'm guessing passing __conduit__ stuff doesn't log us in? [21:08:41] 3Phabricator.org: Add Acceptance Criteria/Checklist feature to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1141 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [21:09:47] not even sure how to do that. I expected that to be part of the session, tbh [21:09:55] 3ECT-November-2014, WMF-Legal, Engineering-Community: Implement the Volunteer NDA process in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T655#20038 (10Qgil) You can close it, and if we don't forget, we can merge it anyway when it lands here. [21:11:03] nope, we pass the auth parameters each time-ish [21:11:29] valhallasw`cloud: https://github.com/legoktm/fab/blob/master/phabricator/__init__.py#L70 [21:11:49] mhm. [21:12:09] so why does the story only have a single task xact :/ [21:14:20] ok so there are three XACTs: one, comment. two, assignment, three, status [21:14:28] but those are bundled in two stories [21:14:55] oh, they were two actions, but bundled later on [21:15:21] ok I'm just going to go with 'if we can't find the specific one, return the highest one' [21:21:07] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Import Bugzilla component descriptions and set them as Phabricator project description? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T690#20039 (10Qgil) [21:21:34] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Import Bugzilla component descriptions and set them as Phabricator project description? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T690 (10Qgil) [21:22:17] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs2 does not have links to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1121#20029 (10Legoktm) https://github.com/legoktm/wikibugs2/commit/81dc0a2023c8e7654b96bf1daff893fe336dd1da [21:22:32] that seems to work [21:24:01] BRING ON THE CHANGES [21:24:04] ;D [21:24:17] 3Patch-For-Review, Wikibugs: wikibugs test bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1152#20041 (10valhallasw) ...here, have another test [21:24:35] now on to the project filtering, which is going to be another interesting filtering action [21:25:14] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Send two email notifications to active Bugzilla users asking them to join Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T618#20042 (10Qgil) What about sending the second email during Thursday 13 Nov (or Friday 14 00:30 UTC if you wish), one week before the planned start of the migration?... [21:27:32] funny, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/bugzilla-migration/ can be edited only by admins, which means that I can't edit those columns. Can you change the policy Editable By to Phabricator team, please? [21:29:13] chasemp or andre__ ^^^^^ if you're around [21:29:17] please [21:31:31] 3Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints or releases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819#20043 (10Qgil) Meh, I was wrong. The columns are not editable, but the cars can be moved. Ok, we'll need to find another solution. [21:32:14] valhallasw`cloud: project filtering? channelfilter does that right? [21:32:32] legoktm: removing the non-project clutter [21:32:37] meh, we can also keep it [21:32:47] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Upstream Bugzilla XML-RPC API issue creates invalid XML & our workaround hack damages attachments - hence apply our hack only on text comment output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T815#20044 (10Dzahn) hi all, honestly it's hard to understand what the current status is here from just readi... [21:32:48] I don't like the Patch-For-Review tag etc [21:36:43] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Upstream Bugzilla XML-RPC API issue creates invalid XML & our workaround hack damages attachments - hence apply our hack only on text comment output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T815#20046 (10valhallasw) There are three options: 1) My hack, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T815#19294... [21:40:23] 3Phabricator: Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20047 (10greg) 3NEW p:3Triage [21:42:04] 3Phabricator: Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20047 (10greg) [21:42:39] 3Community-Engagement, ECT-November-2014, Engineering-Community, ECT-October-2014, Bugzilla-Migration, RT-Migration: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#20055 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Scheduling IRC office hours is very easy: you just add yours to the list... [21:50:08] 3Phabricator: High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833#20057 (10Quiddity) If I understand correctly, we want to start with a 2-column table on mediawiki, that lists: 1. The existing components in bugzilla, as the structured 2-level tree that they are currently in. (htt... [21:57:16] qgil: changed it was from taht weekend of ppl messing w/ project names [21:57:30] chasemp, thanks, yes, I remember [21:59:31] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Document availability of Phabricator during the Bugzilla migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T473#20060 (10Qgil) [21:59:38] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Document all the steps that need to be done during the Bugzilla migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T535#20061 (10Qgil) [22:00:48] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Send two email notifications to active Bugzilla users asking them to join Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T618#20062 (10Qgil) [22:01:24] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Update regexes in Gerrit conf to support auto-linking to Phab tickets in commit messages in Gerrit web UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410#20063 (10Qgil) [22:01:34] 3Patch-For-Review, Bugzilla-Migration: conduit api method for creating comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T643#20064 (10Qgil) [22:02:46] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Move Bugzilla to old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org as a read-only instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366#20065 (10chasemp) do we want to make a ticket for creating a static reference version of bugzilla and/or a shareable dump then? [22:09:20] 3ECT-November-2014, WMF-Legal, Engineering-Community: Implement the Volunteer NDA process in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T655#20066 (10Dzahn) >>! In T655#20038, @Qgil wrote: > You can close it, and if we don't forget, we can merge it anyway when it lands here. Thank you Quim. done and closed... [22:15:23] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077#20067 (10chasemp) @markahershberger hey man, sorry this sucks. I will take a look when I get a chance. It may be awhile though, but I promise I'm flagging to try to not forget. [22:17:02] 3operations: Make labs salt use instance names than ids - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1154#20068 (10yuvipanda) 3NEW p:3Triage [22:19:01] valhallasw`cloud: ^ new tasks shouldn't have anchors... [22:19:29] legoktm: {{sofixit}} ;p [22:19:45] (I can remove the anchor again for new tasks, I guess?) [22:22:36] 3ECT-November-2014, Engineering-Community: Send invoices to Google for GSoC and GCI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1103#20075 (10Qgil) 5Open>3Resolved Both invoices have been sent. Phew! [22:25:01] legoktm: ok, project filter activated & new bugs anchor removed [22:25:07] enough for today :-p [22:25:39] :D [22:25:43] thanks! [22:27:23] 3Wikibugs: Don't include closed projects in wikibugs2 output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1122#20077 (10valhallasw) 5declined>3Resolved Should work now. I have also removed {tags|groups|etc}, but we probably want to re-enable this on a per-channel choice in the future (e.g. ECT springs would be relev... [22:30:20] 704 users [22:31:11] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20080 (10bd808) I can setup the initial board when the project has been created. [22:37:20] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20082 (10chasemp) [23:08:04] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20084 (10Qgil) [23:08:32] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20087 (10Qgil) [23:08:47] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20088 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [23:12:42] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20089 (10bd808) Board created at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/sos/board/ [23:14:58] High level overview of Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T833#20090 (10Qgil) I don't think we need a 1:1 mapping of all the projects. After the Bugzilla migration we will have hundreds. The word "overview" in the subject of this task is important. Also, we don't need to perpetuate a Bugzill... [23:23:41] Please create a "Scrum of Scrums" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1153#20091 (10bd808) [23:35:29] 3Bugzilla-Migration, RT-Migration: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#20092 (10Qgil) Thank you, @Whatamidoing-WMF . I have scheduled office hours several times, but usually the promotion had to be done in the mediawiki.org side of things. The help of yo... [23:42:04] Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077#20093 (10Dzahn) @hexmode so i don't see your email address appear anywhere in /var/log/exim4/mainlog on host iridium (the phabricator prod host) but i DO see it in the same log on polonium (the wikimedia MX) [23:44:00] a nice number to sleep well :) [23:50:42] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Upstream Bugzilla XML-RPC API issue creates invalid XML & our workaround hack damages attachments - hence apply our hack only on text comment output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T815#20094 (10Dzahn) if there is no drawback to 3. why don't we just do that [23:51:59] 3Bugzilla-Preview: Upstream Bugzilla XML-RPC API issue creates invalid XML & our workaround hack damages attachments - hence apply our hack only on text comment output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T815#20095 (10Dzahn) applying and reverting patch is easy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/156100/ https:...