[00:06:34] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#23300 (10Mattflaschen) [00:16:12] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23305 (10Qgil) I was serious with "Also known as". It is one of the options suggested by @quiddity, and I think it is the most accurate and descriptive considering all the concerns expressed in this thread. Said that...... [00:19:19] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23306 (10Jalexander) [00:21:27] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Make sure gerrit notification bot will handle redirected bugs properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1327#23307 (10Qgil) @QChris, it's too late right now, but I'll try to find you tomorrow on IRC to discuss a possible solution. [00:32:05] 3Phabricator: Use Wikimedia favicon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273#23309 (10Mattflaschen) [00:42:07] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23313 (10Quiddity) ditto [00:50:42] 3Project-Management: Deploy Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23315 (10csteipp) @Qgil, do you mean https://github.com/bluehawk/phabricator-sprint? [01:51:59] 3Phabricator: Move the Planet Wikimedia change request workflow from meta to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1323#23316 (10Dereckson) [03:14:28] Did anyone else get an automated notification email from fab.wmflabs.org today? [03:14:48] About T40: "T40: Support only WMF SUL and LDAP as authentication mechanisms" [03:27:12] superm401: yes qgil forwarded me a copy of that same thing. My guess was that it must have been stuck in the mail queue somewhere because fab.wmflabs.org has been shut down for a while [03:27:40] Thanks, just wanted to make sure you were aware. [03:44:34] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Set up redirects from old bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40#23318 (10mmodell) @aklapper: now it's https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/174335/ [04:14:55] 3Project-Management: Deploy Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23319 (10Christopher) @csteipp no, that code has nothing to do with where we are now. please check it here: https://git.wikimedia.org/log/phabricator%2Fextensions%2FSprint/HEAD [08:03:52] 3Project-Management: Deploy Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23339 (10Christopher) [08:08:22] 3Phabricator: Move the Planet Wikimedia change request workflow from meta to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1323#23340 (10Nemo_bis) [08:17:36] 3Phabricator.org: "Custom Date and Time Formats" doesn't state current format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T621#23346 (10Nemo_bis) > You should know what to set based on what you want to set, not based on what is set already, right? Not right. When I register, I go check the preferences. Moreover, if I d... [08:19:14] 3Phabricator.org: Footer (font color vs background color) is hard to read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T628#23347 (10Nemo_bis) [08:21:00] 3Phabricator.org: Buttons in task submission don't have hover text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T632#23348 (10Nemo_bis) The culprit was that the hover text is only shown if wmfusercontent.org is whitelisted (eek, how hideous that domain is). [08:26:56] 3Phabricator: Applications have no mention of "upload" or "attach" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T633#23351 (10Nemo_bis) "Store and Share Files" would be much better as "Upload and share files" or "Upload and attach files". The unexpected terminology is unwarranted. [08:33:46] 3Phabricator: Polish "MediaWiki Userpage" field in user profiles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T541#23352 (10Nemo_bis) > "User page" without any context is also confusing, especially when you see that in a (Phabricator) user page. The phabricator profile must not be considered a userpage, or people might... [08:34:51] 3Project-Management: "changed Security from none to none." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T479#23353 (10Nemo_bis) > Do we have any idea whether the Bugzilla and RT migrated tasks will inherit this problem as well? Can this be tested on the bugzilla preview? [08:48:10] 3Phabricator.org: Adding subscribers to a Phabricator task should be more lightweight - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T913#23358 (10Nemo_bis) [08:48:36] 3Phabricator.org: Adding subscribers to a Phabricator task should be more lightweight - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T913 (10Nemo_bis) [08:49:55] 3Phabricator.org: Application list is not capable of wrapping - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T637#23360 (10Nemo_bis) > I bet this is only a problem when you are reducing the size of the window in your desktop Bet lost. :) Please insert coin: https://archive.org/donate/ [09:05:04] 3Phabricator.org: Application list is not capable of wrapping - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T637#23367 (10Qgil) Done: > Your support is vital to us. Thank you. :) [09:05:52] 3Bugzilla-Migration: https://bugzillapreview.wmflabs.org/ migration preview instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T552#23370 (10Nemo_bis) [09:16:46] 3Phabricator.org: Eliminate bracketed labels to shorten phabricator emails subjects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T650#23381 (10Nemo_bis) [09:20:26] 3Phabricator: Top bar of Phabricator should signify to users they are interacting with a Wikimedia project space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69#23382 (10Nemo_bis) > So with T707 happening at some point the choices are black and white - let's stick with black then as proposed. What's wrong with white in... [09:21:22] 3Phabricator.org: Duplicate tasks are not listed in their target task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T883#23383 (10Nemo_bis) [09:31:40] 3Phabricator: Top bar of Phabricator should signify to users they are interacting with a Wikimedia project space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69#23391 (10Qgil) There is no white to choose from in the Phabricator configuration. There is no color picker of sorts, just a list of predefined colors. White he... [09:35:32] 3Phabricator: Actions shouldn't be attributed to bzimport - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T847#23396 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low a:5chasemp>3None [09:37:15] 3Phabricator: Actions shouldn't be attributed to bzimport - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T847#14310 (10Qgil) [09:55:34] andre__, I wish I could find a task in bugzillapreview with "Version: unspecified", but without functional search I didn't have luck. [09:55:52] andre__, do you know how to find this information in chasemp 's migration script source code? [09:56:41] er... I mean [09:56:59] andre__, "Severity: unspecified" [10:06:09] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23406 (10Qgil) So you are not helping with strong opinions... :) The reasons why I think "Also Known As" is better than "Additional Name": * "Additional Name" somehow implies that there was a request for a name before,... [10:16:57] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23407 (10Jalexander) I tend to agree, my preference would be Also Known As, I think it is the most flexible and closest to what the actual use. I wouldn't put up a big fight for Additional Name but I would prefer AKA. Ja... [11:23:15] 3Phabricator: Can't search for orphan tasks in "projects: none" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1329#23411 (10Qgil) [11:24:03] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Make sure gerrit notification bot will handle redirected bugs properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1327#23412 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [12:10:23] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23413 (10Aklapper) then let's have "Also Known As". [13:04:58] 3Phabricator.org: Eliminate bracketed labels to shorten phabricator emails subjects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T650#23415 (10Aklapper) The From field is used to show who performed the action and I'm not aware of configuring that. [13:23:10] 3Phabricator: Move the Planet Wikimedia change request workflow from meta to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1323#23417 (10Aklapper) >>! In T1323#23211, @Dereckson wrote: > * Name: Planet How will that allow differentiating aggregation requests from technical issues with Planet (e.g. that blog... [15:45:47] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Restrict Bugzilla access to read-only - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1234#23457 (10Aklapper) [15:50:40] 3RT-Migration: Migrate RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38#23458 (10Nemo_bis) I now see on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator#Migration_timeline that RT migration is now scheduled to happen *after* bugzilla migration, so bugzilla users are again used as first guinea pigs. Where can... [16:25:52] 3Wikibugs: Ignore moving projects on a workboard by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1204 (10bd808) [17:16:18] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabriactor Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23503 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:19:52] 3RT-Migration: Migrate RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38#23507 (10Qgil) We have put a lot more hours, previews, feedback, and tests in Bugzilla than in RT. Furthermore, even if RT is smaller, it tuns out to have additional complexity because of the many more queues and statuses used there... [17:20:29] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23508 (10Qgil) [17:20:47] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabriactor Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23509 (10chasemp) >>! In T1322#23339, @Christopher wrote: > Please tag a local phabricator repo with arcpatch-D10780. Sprint 0.5.4 depends on this. Hey Christopher. I'm guessing yo... [17:28:51] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabriactor Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23510 (10chasemp) [17:37:17] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabriactor Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23511 (10chasemp) Third reply from me :) Realized I'm confused and it creates new questions, https://secure.phabricator.com/D10780 is merged upstream now, why would we arc-patch it locally? [17:37:30] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabriactor Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23512 (10Qgil) [17:52:20] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Testing Phabricator after the Bugzilla migration, before reopening - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1244#23515 (10Aklapper) [17:55:47] qgil: so I've commented on T695 but with the current search limitations of Phabricator I'm really not sure how successful you will be able to search for "Severity: enhancement" as it's more than one word. [17:56:18] ...in task descriptions. [17:56:39] andre__, you replied well (I think) because the question was (((I think))) about "Severity: unspecified", a status that thanks to you now I know that it is impossible [17:56:54] I knew, just in some part of the brain that I could not access to this morning. :) [17:56:57] haha [17:57:14] * andre__ got up pretty late, already trying to go into migration night mode [17:57:24] still I admit I'm slightly concerned now that it'll be hard to search for this info in Phab [17:57:44] on the other hand not sure how many people will really care. I don't believe in that "Severity" classification myself. [17:57:51] I started scalating that related task, and I will continue to d so. [17:57:59] thanks [17:58:18] I don't think the seberity task is relevant at all, quality of search is. [17:58:30] severity.... (ouch, my eyes) [17:58:54] alright [18:11:35] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabriactor Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23518 (10Christopher) [18:33:47] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#23521 (10Quiddity) [19:06:56] we could, in theory make severities tags [19:07:29] upstream has done this with https://secure.phabricator.com/tag/high_support_impact/ [19:07:30] style [19:17:51] I'm kind of scared of that idea but as I said I don't believe in severity at all [19:18:07] at least the values that BZ offers [19:18:14] sure one or two separate values might make sense [19:18:29] but high support impact might also just mean higher priority. [19:20:44] <^d> I'm curious how many "highest" impact but "lowest" priority bugs we have :) [19:21:50] severity is really a distorted priority in phab [19:22:11] or at least I don't see how you could ahve a high severity and a low priority [19:22:25] is it would be at best disingenious [19:23:51] <^d> Well yeah [19:23:55] <^d> I'm just curious out of BZ mostly. [19:25:09] I think we said similar things I just misread yours :) [19:28:37] <^d> Reading is hard. It's still not noon in TZ [19:29:41] 3Phabricator: Use Wikimedia favicon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273#23546 (10valhallasw) Asked in # phabricator: 20:22 epriestley, are there any visual identity guidelines for phabricator? specifically, is it OK for the wikimedia phabricator to use the design of the favicon with diff... [19:40:32] hmm, I think I have a nice chicken and egg problem with setting up the default CC mailing lists for wikidata and pywikibot, because the condition is based on projects in Phab that do not exist yet [19:41:39] plus the current rules for wikibugs in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/herald/edit/5/ also confuse me and I wonder if that actually works. Subscribing to wikibugs-l@ now to find out because it has no archives [19:43:53] so either I set these up right after importing [19:44:12] or I already create these projects before importing, but no idea if the import script barks if it tries to create projects like "MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery" product and such projects already exists in Phab [19:44:28] ^ chasemp? (last sentence only) [19:44:46] it should not [19:44:54] (bark) [19:49:56] 3Bugzilla-Migration: Default Assigned To lists in Bugzilla must be set up for CC as Herald rules in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T496#23563 (10Aklapper) chicken and egg problem with setting up the default CC mailing lists for wikidata and pywikibot, because the condition is based on... [19:51:59] <^d> andre__: No archives because volume. It's never had archives :\ [19:52:14] understand [19:52:23] and I don't see our current rule for wikibugs-l@ working at all. [19:52:27] argh. [19:53:11] which is? [19:56:43] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/herald/edit/5/ [19:56:46] related: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T547 [19:57:02] Projects include any of Bug-Report (which is archived anyway) or Patch-For-Review [19:57:08] Title contains [bug] [19:57:11] any of these conditions [19:57:19] sigh. [19:57:22] crap. [19:57:58] wrong Phab URL, I meant https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T453 [20:01:46] valhallasw`cloud: btw, I can't find any phab translations in the menu other than english and ALL CAPS [20:02:46] twentyafterfour, chasemp: up for a Hangout? [21:00:00] chasemp: *drumroll* and here are the results of the jury: [21:00:11] minus Sec: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P95 [21:00:22] 7 are non existing IDs, 30 are the most recent ones [21:00:26] ==> 5832 and 9583 remain [21:00:46] :) thanks andre [21:00:47] wow that was quick work. [21:00:54] * twentyafterfour is impressed [21:01:07] I spent more time cherry picking and being confused [21:01:11] twentyafterfour: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1343 [21:01:30] can you pull down latest / rebase into your branch / tag with T1343 ? [21:01:34] once that fix lands [21:01:37] we really have no choice [21:01:46] tho I loath upgrading atm [21:01:54] ok [21:02:04] https://secure.phabricator.com/D10876 [21:02:06] 3Bugzilla-Migration: large numbers of tasks crash phab for anonymous users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1343#23595 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3High [21:02:26] maybe we should jsut cherry pick that commit? [21:02:34] to avoid any other unknown issues form last merge to this one [21:02:35] thoughts? [21:04:04] I was thinking the same thing... [21:04:09] heh [21:04:27] I'm ok w/ it I tihnk [21:04:31] we don't have time ot do a full vett [21:04:39] and I don't know what's happened since last merge at all [21:04:46] kinda meh but hmmm [21:04:49] you are listed as a reviewer on that differential, if you accept the diff that'll speed up epriestley getting it merged ;) [21:05:44] if we cherry pick that one commit it slightly complicates the next upgrade but not too bad [21:06:12] we already have our own patch to rebase on top of upstream so it's already more work and the cherry pick doesn't make it much worse [21:07:03] 3Bugzilla-Migration: large numbers of tasks crash phab for anonymous users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1343#23597 (10chasemp) [21:08:03] assigned to you dude [21:08:16] for that stuff, I think w/ a comment to reasoning and etc [21:08:21] cherry pick may be the way [21:08:53] yeah cherry pick works for me [21:22:03] 3Bugzilla-Migration: large numbers of tasks crash phab for anonymous users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1343#23601 (10chasemp) p:5High>3Unbreak! [21:22:48] for fun :) [21:23:03] 3Bugzilla-Migration: large numbers of tasks crash phab for anonymous users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1343#23602 (10mmodell) >`15:02 chasemp maybe we should jsut cherry pick that commit?` >` to avoid any other unknown issues form last merge to this one` >`... [21:23:20] irc log pasted for posterity [21:23:27] with all my glorious typos [21:23:39] I fixed one of them ;) [21:23:43] hey thanks! [21:24:29] * twentyafterfour is glad I no longer have the keyboard with random double-keystrokes [21:41:59] I remember that heh [21:48:45] * bd808 wants pretty irc logs like https://secure.phabricator.com/chatlog/channel/6/ [21:53:10] oh neato [21:53:24] not copy-paste friendly :( [21:55:07] we can do that, it's still prototype tho [21:55:16] but we did it at my $JOB^ [21:55:29] useful for callout like https://secure.phabricator.com/chatlog/channel/6/?at=173879 [21:55:49] slightly weak from a search pov [22:00:25] <^d> Only reliable irc logs are the ones on my local disk :p [22:05:23] really it saves the use of "pastes" for all the irc stuffs [22:05:30] and then also before and after context is...well there [22:05:39] it's not fool proof but nice sometimes [22:47:58] * andre__ waits for the bot to make a notification for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/174583/ in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T371 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798 [22:48:09] ^ that's the change of two UI strings as discussed earlier [22:48:55] * andre__ away from keyboard for a while, need fresh air [22:49:41] 3Phabricator: "Execute Query" button name is overcomplicated, could just be "Search" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T371#23614 (10Aklapper) Where's my notification bot? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/174583/ [22:49:48] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Name" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#23616 (10Aklapper) Where's my notification bot? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/174583/ [22:53:44] uhh [22:54:04] andre__: you have to format it properly [22:54:49] <^d> We should change "Execute" -> "EXTERMINATE" [22:54:56] <^d> Might have to hide that behind the no-fun flag [22:55:00] <^d> Err, serious business. [22:55:52] I hate serious business mode [22:56:01] I want to close issues out of spite [22:56:13] and clowncopterize [22:57:10] <^d> Open a task to turn it back off. All we need is consensus ;-) [23:13:47] 3RT-Migration, Community-Engagement, Bugzilla-Migration, Engineering-Community: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#23622 (10Qgil) Thank you @gpaumier, this was like a Phabricator special edition! Thank you also @Whatamidoing-WMF, I was surprised to see... [23:14:20] 3RT-Migration, Community-Engagement, Bugzilla-Migration, Engineering-Community: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#23623 (10Qgil) [23:14:34] 3Bugzilla-Migration: large numbers of tasks crash phab for anonymous users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1343#23624 (10Qgil) [23:14:55] 3RT-Migration, Bugzilla-Migration: Check that there is no "bzimport changed the edit policy of this Task..." during the Bugzilla and RT migrations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1243#23625 (10Qgil) [23:17:35] twentyafterfour, ^d you can also file a patch upstream to disable serious mode at a user level via preferences. :) [23:19:38] qgil: you realise adding user preferences is like swearing at ^d? ;) [23:20:54] +1 for animated gifs and clowncopters and weird status messages from me. But the i18n crowd probably doesn't feel quite the same way about all of that. [23:21:33] If english is second or third or forth language some of Evan's humor might be a bit confusing [23:22:01] Reedy, fow what is worth a "Language" setting already exists at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/ [23:22:09] anyway, I was joking :) [23:22:43] 3RT-Migration, Community-Engagement, Bugzilla-Migration, Engineering-Community: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#23628 (10gpaumier) @qgil: No problem for the blog post. Since I know it's coming, I'll be able to review it quickly. Just send me an email... [23:26:44] <^d> qgil: A better patch would be to remove serious mode and make the un-seriousness the default :D [23:30:51] 3RT-Migration, Community-Engagement, Bugzilla-Migration, Engineering-Community: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#23629 (10Qgil) [23:33:59] 3RT-Migration, Community-Engagement, Bugzilla-Migration, Engineering-Community: Communicate the launch of Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188#23630 (10gpaumier)