[00:02:41] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#789848 (10Qgil) >>! In T75961#789756, @MZMcBride wrote: > Clearly Phabricator is already aware of the difference between a project and a tag by giving a different icon and background... [00:08:25] 3Phabricator: Implement a way to index Phabricator tasks by Wikimedia wiki family - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40994#789868 (10Aklapper) [00:08:38] 3Phabricator: "MediaWiki Userpage: Unknown" on Phabricator user profiles is tacky - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T903#789870 (10Aklapper) [00:14:08] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLS into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#789880 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [00:14:38] I think I'm going to need to /part this channel soon :/ [00:14:49] or not care about it as much, one of the two :) [00:18:07] * YuviPanda pats greg-g [00:18:35] greg-g: another option is to make a bot-spam subchannel. or fix our ircbot config to point things at appropriate channels. [00:27:26] well, these are all phab-related, so it makes sense here, it's just noisy as all heck [00:27:39] :) [00:27:40] that's true [00:28:00] greg-g: also, cc changes sometimes echo, and so do moving things in workboards. [00:28:05] once those bugs are fixed maybe better [00:29:37] YuviPanda: this is already the bot-spam subchannel [00:29:44] heh [00:29:48] i thought we'd move it to the normal channel after migration [00:30:23] also, this is a cycle at WMF. we keep making bots to get output, then we say it's spammy, then we put the bots in channels so that we dont see them :) [00:31:20] -ops -tech -dev -devtools , but the technical discussion in -staff, it happens [00:32:02] i would say, at least put wikibugs and grrrit-wm in the same place [00:32:14] and then users should use /ignore to customize the experience :p [00:32:17] yeah, if only we could make people follow well defined processes all the time... [00:32:25] but having bugs and code changes in one place, it makes sense [00:36:35] -feed! [00:36:52] dunno why more people don't use it [00:37:20] because that's what happens every time, bot gets added, somebody says to move it, we put in -feed, nobody looks at it anymore [00:37:36] because too many channels [00:40:26] legoktm: -feed is pretty difficult to read through. [00:42:53] People should just file less Phab related stuff in Phab, problem solved. ;) [00:42:56] * mutante laughs [00:43:06] about -feed being difficult to read [00:43:12] you are really going in circles :) [00:43:37] wait, our problem is too much activity in the new unified bug tracker ?:) [00:47:35] yes it is, if you want me to follow up in a timely manner :D [00:48:04] * andre__ actually uses the "feed" view now to at least get a quick overview [00:48:21] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#790193 (10MZMcBride) >>! In T75961#789848, @Qgil wrote: > No, Phabricator just does what we users do manually when editing a project. Now "easy" is yellow and shows the icon of a tag.... [00:48:21] mutante: Have you idled in there? :-) [00:49:41] mutante: It looks like there have been 388 messages in the past hour. [00:49:47] not much, too many channels [00:50:31] Since 24 November, there have been about 9200 messages. [00:50:49] Though the past few days are probably (maybe?) atypical. [00:50:56] That's a lot of messages to read through and click, though. [00:51:49] one channel has 100 messages, or 2 channels have 50 messages each, both cases you read 100 messages (or not) [00:58:26] Well, from my experience in -feed, it's almost exclusively or not. [01:08:43] which would mean the bot isn't used [01:10:45] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLS into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790263 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) a resource for this — http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4348912/get-title-of-website-via-link [01:42:18] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#790285 (10Dereckson) When we'll be willing to maintain an installation of Phabricator different of upstream (something Phabricator helps with a configuration allowing to load extra classes), I can write a quips applica... [01:51:39] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLS into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790292 (10MZMcBride) >>! In T76095#789880, @Jaredzimmerman-WMF wrote: > Quora does this, VE is about to be able to do this, Jira/Confluence does this, Facebook does this. So yes,... [01:53:16] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#790301 (10MZMcBride) Going to test around with this bug. [01:54:12] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLS into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790305 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) What are the use cases where a user would want to insert a full url? sent while mobile [01:56:35] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#790310 (10MZMcBride) [02:02:43] 3Phabricator: Phabricator saves text in boxes when even when after window is closed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76118#790326 (10Rjd0060) [02:05:14] 3Project-Management: Trello migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T821#790338 (10Spage) [02:06:42] 3Phabricator: Redesign phabricator login page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T862#790343 (10Liuxinyu970226) [02:14:47] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLS into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790373 (10MZMcBride) [02:14:58] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLS into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790374 (10MZMcBride) 5declined>3Open [02:17:00] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#790377 (10MZMcBride) [02:27:16] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298 (10MZMcBride) [02:38:22] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#790399 (10Dereckson) There is already a //Edit blocking tasks// link for the relationship between tasks. So the issue is what to do with the related tasks.... [02:56:57] 3Phabricator: Phabricator saves text in boxes when even when after window is closed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76118#790408 (10Aklapper) [02:56:59] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#790409 (10Aklapper) [02:57:16] 3Phabricator: Phabricator saves text in boxes when even when after window is closed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76118#790326 (10Aklapper) Hi @Rjd0060. Thanks for taking the time to report this! This particular problem has already been reported into our bug tracking system as T75834, but please feel free... [02:58:38] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLs into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790415 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Low [03:33:39] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#790426 (10scfc) In T39992#424332, there is fear that terrorists or spies use that service to exchange messages so it doesn't need to be documented or even supported, just used. (Also some definit... [03:39:18] 3Project-Management, MobileFrontend-Hygiene, VisualEditor-TechnicalDebt: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#790434 (10Aklapper) [03:43:39] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#790438 (10Aklapper) a:3LuisV_WMF This needs legal input first to be able to make a decision on "threats vs. convenience". Assigning to @LuisV_WMF for the time being (feel free to reassign, I'm s... [04:31:29] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Quiddity) [04:39:07] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Legoktm) [04:47:59] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Rjd0060) [04:50:30] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Rfarrand) [05:45:29] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Glaisher) [05:48:32] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Stemoc) [06:33:50] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Don't email users on cc changes by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T624#790504 (10Nemo_bis) > there's currently no way for admins to set "Do not notify me on CC changes" by default so this isn't actionable currently. Then a local plugin or whatever is needed. [06:41:36] 3Phabricator.org: RSS/Atom feeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67#790505 (10Nemo_bis) [06:45:30] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#790507 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? I have seen several comments from upstream maintainers saying that "Projects" should have been called "Tags" since the very beginning. While... [06:45:39] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#790509 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined [06:48:35] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#790510 (10Nemo_bis) > When we'll be willing to maintain an installation of Phabricator different of upstream This is not an option, we're forced to; it's just a matter of what will our first local application. See ht... [06:54:45] 3Phabricator: Implement a way to index Phabricator tasks by Wikimedia wiki family - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40994#790511 (10Nemo_bis) [06:55:40] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLs into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790512 (10Qgil) p:5Low>3Volunteer? >>! In T76095#790373, @MZMcBride wrote: > //Please//, slow the hell down with the declining. Give ideas time (days and weeks, not hours) to... [06:55:53] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLs into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#790514 (10Qgil) a:5Qgil>3None [06:56:11] 3Phabricator.org: Pasting Phabricator task URLs into descriptions should create pretty link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76095#789414 (10Qgil) [06:57:21] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#790516 (10Qgil) [06:57:43] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#790520 (10Qgil) [06:58:44] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator tags should be listed as tags, not projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75961#787053 (10Qgil) [06:59:39] 3Phabricator.org: Can't search for orphan tasks in "projects: none" via main advanced search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1329#790523 (10Qgil) [07:02:52] 3Phabricator: Phabricator project display names use awkward capitalization and hyphenation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T911#790525 (10Nemo_bis) [07:04:48] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#790526 (10Dereckson) >>! In T73245#790510, @Nemo_bis wrote: >> When we'll be willing to maintain an installation of Phabricator different of upstream > > This is not an option, we're forced to; it's just a matter of w... [07:05:45] Hoi for me Phabricator is still 100% broken [07:06:17] I spend time on it and I did speak with Andre about this ... I ran out of time [07:06:32] my profile was incorrectly linked and I have only one [07:06:39] it needs to work [07:10:33] 3Phabricator: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#790527 (10Qgil) p:5Unbreak!>3Low There is a possibility that web notifications don't update properly without enabling the notification server. We can have some patience with these i... [07:10:45] 3Phabricator: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#790532 (10Qgil) [07:11:21] 3Project-Management: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#790533 (10Qgil) [07:12:35] 3Phabricator: Following Notification from "flame" menu does not clear notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75791#790541 (10Qgil) [07:14:36] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#790544 (10Qgil) [07:14:43] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#789546 (10Qgil) [07:16:08] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator avatar SVG support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76096#790547 (10Qgil) [07:18:39] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator avatar SVG support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76096#790548 (10Qgil) [07:31:00] 3Phabricator.org: in narrow column dashboards tags, teams, projects do not wrap in a usable way. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76064#790584 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? This probably happens because project labels and the date compete for the same vertical align. If there is no space for everything,... [07:32:05] 3Phabricator: Nonexistent change in custom policy logged when mentioning a security task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76008#790591 (10Qgil) [07:32:13] 3Phabricator: Nonexistent change in custom policy logged when mentioning a security task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76008#790592 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low [07:33:36] 3Project-Management, MobileFrontend-Hygiene, VisualEditor-TechnicalDebt: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#790593 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [07:35:25] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Priority" field values for Maniphest tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268#790607 (10Qgil) [07:35:41] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Priority" field values for Maniphest tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268#3394 (10Qgil) [07:36:38] hi GerardM- [07:36:44] hoi [07:37:21] qgil_: it turns out that my profile had an incorrect configuration [07:37:33] what is incorrect? [07:37:45] I know andre is aware of this ... it refers to the time when I worked for WMF [07:38:13] so it points to a profile that does not exist and consequntley I can not make changes [07:39:09] GerardM-, are you talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/GerardM/ ? [07:39:33] yes [07:39:46] I cannot verify my email [07:40:05] sending another one makes no difference [07:40:28] it is send to gmeijssen@wikimedia.org. [07:40:49] ok, we can delete that account, allowing you to start from scratch [07:40:50] so when it gets picked up (the mail) I can change the email address [07:41:02] but being Thanksgiving long long weekend this might take a while [07:41:08] (I don't have permissions to do this) [07:41:27] latest by Monday morning should be done, maybe before [07:41:28] so why do we not have staff in Europe ? [07:41:36] Ok [07:41:39] er... I mean Monday (your) evening [07:41:45] please let me know [07:41:59] we have staff in Europe, and as you can see I'm here working :) [07:42:16] AH [07:42:20] good for you [07:42:26] the Phabricator team is small, and don't want to bother other Ops for a task that, as far as I can see, has been waiting since Oct 7 [07:42:31] as long as you get your national holidays [07:42:48] I get what I deserve :) [07:42:58] I did not get it [07:43:08] not that I minded [07:44:03] it's a an attempt of writing a double meaning, ironic sentence. :) [07:44:19] bleh, my broken IRC English [07:57:40] 3Code-Review: Define an equivalent to Gerrit's +-1 +-2 for code review evaluation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138#790615 (10Qgil) Currently #Code-Review is in the queue of Phabricator subprojects after Project-Management and Gitblit-Deprecate. If someone wants to work on this task, take it and assign th... [07:57:41] 3Code-Review: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T597#790617 (10Qgil) [07:57:44] 3Code-Review: Connect Differential code review with continuous integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31#790619 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Currently #Code-Review is in the queue of Phabricator subprojects after Project-Management and Gitblit-Deprecate. If someone wants to work on this task, take it an... [07:57:45] 3Code-Review, Phabricator.org: Pulling patches from Phabricator does not give consistent commit hashes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136#790621 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Currently #Code-Review is in the queue of Phabricator subprojects after Project-Management and Gitblit-Deprecate. If someone wants to... [07:57:47] 3Code-Review: Inherited settings and access control for code repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184#790627 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Currently #Code-Review is in the queue of Phabricator subprojects after Project-Management and Gitblit-Deprecate. If someone wants to work on this task, take it an... [07:57:48] 3Phabricator.org, Code-Review: Landing a patch with arc currently will sometimes strip author information - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T612#790623 (10Qgil) [07:57:49] 3Code-Review: Preserve code review history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T617#790625 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Currently #Code-Review is in the queue of Phabricator subprojects after Project-Management and Gitblit-Deprecate. If someone wants to work on this task, take it and assign the priority accordingly. [08:10:42] 3Multimedia, Project-Management: Migration of Multimedia to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T827#790639 (10Qgil) As per T434 , in the following days I plan to scan the levels of use of Phabricator by all the WMF product & engineering teams. Please keep the description of this task up to date. [08:10:43] 3WMF Design, Project-Management: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#790642 (10Qgil) [08:10:46] 3Project-Management: Migration of Growth team Trello boards to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1247#790645 (10Qgil) As per T434 , in the following days I plan to scan the levels of use of Phabricator by all the WMF product & engineering teams. Please keep the description of this task up to date. [08:10:47] 3Language-Engineering, Project-Management: Migration of Language team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T829#790654 (10Qgil) As per T434 , in the following days I plan to scan the levels of use of Phabricator by all the WMF product & engineering teams. Please keep the description of this task up... [08:10:49] 3Project-Management: Migration of Analytics to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T826#790651 (10Qgil) As per T434 , in the following days I plan to scan the levels of use of Phabricator by all the WMF product & engineering teams. Please keep the description of this task up to date. [08:10:50] 3Project-Management: Migration of Core Features team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T828#790657 (10Qgil) [08:10:51] 3Project-Management: Migration of Mobile Web team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T830#790660 (10Qgil) As per T434 , in the following days I plan to scan the levels of use of Phabricator by all the WMF product & engineering teams. Please keep the description of this task up to date. [08:11:20] 3Fundraising, Project-Management: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#790663 (10Qgil) [08:15:27] 3Phabricator: Show correct external IP addresses (XFF support) in activity log - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T840#790683 (10Qgil) [08:15:44] 3Phabricator: Show correct external IP addresses (XFF support) in activity log - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T840#790685 (10Qgil) [08:17:25] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#790689 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low This is Low priority upstream. [08:19:58] 3Phabricator: Adapt on-wiki bug templates to point to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176#790693 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Volunteer? >>! In T176#10640, @Qgil wrote: > This tasked is open because of {T539}. @Mattflaschen has volunteered to take that task. [08:20:44] 3Phabricator: phabricator.wikimedia.org should be listed in Special:OAuthListConsumers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T990#790696 (10Qgil) [08:21:47] 3Code-Review, Continuous-Integration: Connect Differential code review with continuous integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31#790697 (10hashar) [08:21:57] 3Code-Review: Align Wikimedia and Phabricator code review processes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167#790699 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [08:22:56] 3Code-Review: Define an equivalent to Gerrit's +-1 +-2 for code review evaluation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138#790703 (10Liuxinyu970226) [08:23:24] 3Code-Review, Continuous-Integration: Connect Differential code review with continuous integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31#790704 (10Liuxinyu970226) [08:24:15] 3Phabricator: bzimport comment assignment regressions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75761#790707 (10Qgil) [08:24:38] 3Phabricator: Reporters of imported reports should be added to subscribers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T896#790708 (10Nemo_bis) > Adding the reporter also to the subscribers does not change anything if that account is not in Phabricator. Then an application needs to be developed which allows us to creat... [08:27:40] 3Phabricator: bzimport comment assignment regressions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75761#790711 (10Liuxinyu970226) [08:28:21] 3Code-Review: Align Wikimedia and Phabricator code review processes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167#790712 (10Liuxinyu970226) [08:33:20] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#790726 (10Nemo_bis) [08:34:32] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#790727 (10Nemo_bis) [08:35:28] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#790728 (10Nemo_bis) [08:39:41] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Maniphest Reports break when you have 75k tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75847#790734 (10Qgil) [08:40:02] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Maniphest Reports break when you have 75k tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75847#783604 (10Qgil) [08:41:18] 3Phabricator: Clean up legacy gerrit bot data in Phab comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75768#790738 (10Qgil) [08:42:58] 3Phabricator: Enabling Herald - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T630#790740 (10Qgil) [08:44:00] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#790741 (10Qgil) [08:44:25] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#790742 (10Qgil) a:5Christopher>3chasemp [08:45:13] 3Project-Management, Phabricator: Make sure anti-vandalism features are up to snuff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84#790745 (10Qgil) [08:45:40] 3Project-Management, Phabricator: Make sure anti-vandalism features are up to snuff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84#1231 (10Qgil) [08:49:17] 3Phabricator: Map from bugzilla aliases to phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240#790747 (10Qgil) [08:49:39] 3Phabricator: Map from bugzilla aliases to phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240#3056 (10Qgil) [08:54:14] 3Phabricator: 'Attaching' two mediawiki accounts results in AphrontCountQueryException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720#790769 (10Qgil) I guess the solution is that the plugin shouldn't allow users to add a second Wikimedia username? One Phabricator account for one Wikimedia SUL account. @fbstj can yo... [08:54:31] 3Phabricator: 'Attaching' two mediawiki accounts results in AphrontCountQueryException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720#790770 (10Qgil) [09:00:17] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Ogv videos doesn't show any image on Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75990#790774 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low For what is worth, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/config/group/files/ doesn't mention "ogv". This is the closest: files.viewable-mime-types Customi... [09:00:48] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Ogv videos doesn't show any image on Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75990#790776 (10Qgil) [09:03:02] 3Phabricator, Engineering-Community: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#790777 (10Qgil) [09:05:21] 3Project-Management: Trello migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T821#790780 (10Qgil) [09:05:41] 3WMF Design, Project-Management: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#790781 (10Qgil) [09:13:22] 3Phabricator: Reduce maniphest prefix/prepend for email subject from [Maniphest] to [M] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T947#790790 (10Nemo_bis) > I find this useful. If the CC, priority, or swim lane of a bug I'm just watching changed, I may not even need to open the email Then your email settings are wron... [09:15:12] 3Project-Management: Migrate Trello data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36#790791 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3High With Bugzilla-Migration completed and RT-Migration well on its way, it is time to look at the migration of Trello projects. Let's put all the Trello focus on {T821}, where @spage ha... [09:15:31] 3Phabricator: Introducing Bugzilla / RT / Reference number in search should find the corresponding task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T991#790795 (10Nemo_bis) > Would it be feasible to have the reference field indexed in the general search, so users could simply introduce i.e. "bz1234" in order to find the... [09:17:08] 3Project-Management: Migrate Trello data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T36#790796 (10Qgil) [09:25:27] 3Project-Management: Trello migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T821#790802 (10Qgil) @spage, thank you for stepping in! @chasemp is now... well, now he is enjoying the long Thanksgiving weekend, but right after that his main focus is the RT migration. Still, I hope he has some time to help you r... [09:26:02] 3Project-Management: Trello migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T821#790804 (10Qgil) [09:26:43] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#790808 (10Qgil) [09:27:29] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#12719 (10Qgil) [09:28:21] 3Phabricator, Legalpad, WMF-Legal: Enable Legalpad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T656#790810 (10Qgil) [09:30:13] 3Phabricator: Reduce maniphest prefix/prepend for email subject from [Maniphest] to [M] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T947#790811 (10Qgil) [09:36:00] 3Phabricator: Wikimedia's Phabricator installation should use a custom favicon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273#790812 (10Qgil) [09:40:55] 3Phabricator: 'Attaching' two mediawiki accounts results in AphrontCountQueryException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720#790814 (10fbstj) Yeah I can access that page, in T75720#777867 I both tried to remove or refresh either of the connections and they both respond with the same error: ``` Unhandled Ex... [09:41:06] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#790815 (10Qgil) [09:42:35] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#763562 (10Qgil) A basic question: where should/can the quips be placed? [09:56:37] 3Phabricator: Phabricator project display names use awkward capitalization and hyphenation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T911#790822 (10Qgil) [09:56:54] 3Phabricator: Phabricator project display names use awkward capitalization and hyphenation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T911#790823 (10Qgil) [10:09:42] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Ogv videos doesn't show any image on Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75990#790826 (10TheDJ) Seems that Phab does not support including video directly, only audio. As such ogg should be removed from the audio types, and viewable types, since ogg can be both audio an... [10:14:54] 3Phabricator: Implement a way to index Phabricator tasks by Wikimedia wiki family - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40994#790834 (10Qgil) [10:16:41] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Ogv videos doesn't show any image on Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75990#790835 (10Qgil) Do you want to help me testing this in http://phab-01.wmflabs.org first? Just upload the ogg files you want to test, and then I can tweak the configuration there. When we are... [10:19:26] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#790836 (10Qgil) [10:27:27] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#790837 (10Qgil) [10:27:49] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#790838 (10Qgil) [11:32:52] 3Phabricator: Maniphest search: add TOC for fast scanning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76137 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW p:3Triage [11:51:04] hi andre__ , any objection ref https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75797 (I can do it) [11:53:04] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Prevent that private information is leaked via Herald notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T493#790914 (10Qgil) [11:54:39] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#790923 (10Qgil) [11:55:53] 3Phabricator, MediaWiki-Core-Team: Aphlict security review - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1286#790925 (10Qgil) [11:57:10] 3Phabricator.org: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#790927 (10Qgil) [12:00:53] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Configure the default styling to have a bit bigger font size - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T81#790938 (10Qgil) [12:01:08] 3Phabricator: Phabricator mails Message-ID has localhost.localdomain - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75713#790940 (10Qgil) [12:01:26] 3Phabricator: "bzimport" should be explained in tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75846#790947 (10Qgil) [12:02:00] 3Phabricator: Remove bzimport account from security group once not needed anymore - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75784#790949 (10Qgil) [12:02:13] 3Phabricator: Decide what to do with tracking bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75703#790951 (10Qgil) [12:04:59] 3Phabricator: Import Bugzilla component descriptions and set them as Phabricator project description? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T690#790955 (10Qgil) [12:07:15] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation doesn't suggest possible duplicate tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T886#790956 (10Qgil) [12:07:32] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator doesn't prompt for duplicate tasks when creating a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T908#790960 (10Qgil) [12:07:53] 3Phabricator: "Nemo_bis changed Security from none to none." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T622#790962 (10Qgil) [12:11:04] 3Phabricator: User Name from Wikipedia can't be used to login to phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76117#790970 (10Qgil) [12:11:06] 3Phabricator: Don't duplicate the list of lists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T636#790971 (10Qgil) [12:22:49] 3Phabricator: We already have plenty of orphan closed tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1379#791031 (10Qgil) [12:25:25] 3Phabricator: Polish "MediaWiki Userpage" field in user profiles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T541#791035 (10Qgil) [12:27:04] 3Phabricator: Sending email to create tasks doesn't work for me - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1077#791036 (10Qgil) [12:29:47] 3Phabricator, MediaWiki-extensions-OAuth: MediaWiki OAuth dialog text is unclear and sounds more scary than it is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T598#791038 (10Qgil) [12:32:45] 3Phabricator: Author: line remains in the description, even after the task is claimed by email address - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T918#791040 (10Qgil) a:3chasemp As a matter of fact, @chasemp fixed this one silently. I haven't seen any "Author" reference in claimed tasks. Thank you! [12:32:54] 3RT-Migration: Handle metadata / user account claiming on imported tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419#791043 (10Qgil) [12:32:55] 3Phabricator: Author: line remains in the description, even after the task is claimed by email address - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T918#791042 (10Qgil) 5Open>3Resolved [12:36:43] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator dashboard should support additional layouts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T878#791052 (10Qgil) p:5Low>3Volunteer? [12:37:04] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator dashboard should support additional layouts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T878#14844 (10Qgil) [12:37:50] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator dashboard should support additional layouts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T878#14844 (10Qgil) Two links to related tasks upstream have been added to the description. There is also https://secure.phabricator.com/T4989 but I'm not sure what is that task about exactly. [12:43:21] 3Phabricator: Improvements to Wikimedia SUL login - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T542#791064 (10Qgil) [12:44:22] 3Phabricator, Legalpad: Configure the permissions for Legalpad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218#791065 (10Qgil) [12:46:01] 3Phabricator: Create projects for tasks whose non-English initial descriptions need translation? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213#791066 (10Qgil) [12:46:51] 3Phabricator: Create projects for tasks whose non-English initial descriptions need translation? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213#2868 (10Qgil) [12:52:21] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#791080 (10Qgil) I propose leaving the lovely undefined tokens and decline this request. [12:52:37] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#791081 (10Qgil) [12:53:26] 3Phabricator, Code-Review: "Fixes-Task" keyword in Git commit message that will cause a bug report to automatically be marked Resolved in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55387#791083 (10Qgil) [12:54:56] 3Phabricator: Top bar of Phabricator should signify to users they are interacting with a Wikimedia project space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69#791086 (10Qgil) [12:55:40] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Maniphest advanced search contains obscure fields by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1376#791095 (10Qgil) [12:57:07] 3Phabricator: Closed tasks are included by default in search results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T885#791097 (10Qgil) [13:01:05] 3Phabricator: Phabricator has poor contrast, using grey on grey everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62#791102 (10Qgil) I don't think this is being a problem for our users. Proposing to decline this task. T628 would still remain open to discussion. [13:01:25] 3Phabricator: Phabricator has poor contrast, using grey on grey everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62#791104 (10Qgil) [13:05:15] 3Phabricator: "bzimport" should be explained in tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75846#791108 (10Aklapper) p:5Low>3Volunteer? [13:10:13] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#791112 (10Dereckson) Footer to be less interface disruptive. [13:10:36] 3Phabricator: Maniphest search: add TOC for fast scanning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76137#791113 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? > Currently, search results only state priority in the header, You can see where you are if you know which priority the color on the very left of a search result me... [13:10:45] It took me a while, but https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/phabricator/board/ now reflects the current status, more or less. [13:11:15] 3Phabricator, Legalpad, WMF-Legal: Enable Legalpad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T656#791116 (10Revi) [13:12:14] Thank you so much! [13:12:26] * andre__ reads backlog [13:14:46] no objection [13:15:05] I'll also get there in theory after three other items higher on the todo list, grumble [13:15:45] I ended up cleaning closed orphans... [13:15:53] yeah, I saw the bugmail [13:18:21] 3Phabricator.org: Maniphest search: add TOC for fast scanning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76137#791124 (10Qgil) [13:24:58] 3Project-Management: Trello migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T821#791130 (10Aklapper) >>! In T821#790802, @Qgil wrote: > Still, I hope he has some time to help you reusing his import script. Or explore the code at https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/phabricator%2Ftools.git [13:27:03] For some stupid reason, I tend to be more productive in days when I could have a holiday instead... [13:28:04] (((although the truth about all these little tasks is that I'm again procrastinating instead of writing my monthly reports, and this is not a joke))) [13:29:38] as long as you procrastinate on my tasks I'm not too unhappy :) I just need to find some tasks I can steal from you at some point, as a revenge. [13:29:39] :) [13:29:48] productive procrastination! [13:29:57] I sometimes manage, sometimes not... yeah. [13:30:18] :) [13:43:18] 3Phabricator: Reporters of imported reports should be added to subscribers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T896#791159 (10Aklapper) [13:52:42] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator need structured way of relating non-blocking tasks to each other similar to bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76101#791168 (10Aklapper) Are there dedicated fields in other tools (Trello, Mingle etc) that allow expressing a relation that is not blocked-by/depends-on? If... [14:01:41] 3Phabricator.org: Can't search for orphan tasks in "projects: none" via main advanced search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1329#791181 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3declined a:3Aklapper Main advanced search cannot and should not cover all potential situations that are specific to applications available in Man... [14:03:34] 3Phabricator.org: RSS/Atom feeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67#791188 (10Aklapper) It's still a news feed (like on Twitter or Facebook), just not technically a format like RSS or Atom that's also called a feed. :) [14:14:02] 3Phabricator: We already have plenty of orphan closed tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1379 (10Aklapper) [15:00:27] 3SUL-Finalization, Phabricator, Wikimedia-Site-requests: Set $wgCentralAuthPreventUnattached = true; on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76146#791240 (10Nemo_bis) [15:57:11] I want to fix T1282 but I'm going to trigger 650 notifications for that... meh [16:08:01] 3Phabricator: 503 when batch-editing tasks in Phab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76152 (10Aklapper) 3NEW p:3Low [16:08:41] andre__: lol, so you can't even do it? :/ [16:08:46] I can. In chunks [16:08:49] but ain't cool [16:09:02] memory limit hit maybe? [16:10:06] guess so [16:10:16] not a biggie as we haven't enabled batch-edits for non-admins anyway [16:16:57] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#791765 (10MZMcBride) [16:25:40] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154 (10MZMcBride) 3NEW p:3Triage [16:27:29] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154#792004 (10MZMcBride) [16:31:50] 3Phabricator: Phabricator has poor contrast, using grey on grey everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62#792034 (10MZMcBride) > Tasks are very hard and ugly to read, because everything is light grey on slighly lighter grey. I'm not sure who wrote this, but what is meant by everything? Most text in Pha... [16:32:23] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#792036 (10LuisV_WMF) Fine to use me as a proxy. I'll take a look after the holiday. [16:49:13] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Fix search in Wikimedia Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75854#792058 (10Revi) [17:06:47] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Fix search in Wikimedia Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75854#792071 (10Manybubbles) Is this something I need to get involved in? Could someone write some specific examples of what doesn't work buy should? Nik [17:20:05] 3Phabricator: We already have plenty of orphan closed tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1379#792074 (10Nemo_bis) >>! In T1379#791031, @Qgil wrote: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/eeh59yEaq59d/#R > >> No data. kudos! [17:25:17] 3Phabricator.org: Maniphest search: add TOC for fast scanning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76137#792075 (10Nemo_bis) > You can see where you are if you know which priority the color on the very left of a search result means Meaning provided by exclusive means of colour is not accessible, so it's equival... [17:36:31] 3Phabricator: Reporters of imported reports should be added to subscribers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T896#792078 (10Nemo_bis) 5declined>3Open There are several logical flaws in the arguments above: * "ignore emails" is not equivalent to "not read emails"; * "emails about stuff they once cared about... [17:36:58] 3Phabricator: Reporters of imported reports should receive notifications for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T896#792080 (10Nemo_bis) [17:45:35] 3Phabricator: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#792090 (10Lokal_Profil) [17:50:03] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#792091 (10Krenair) [17:52:01] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10Krenair) [18:41:15] * valhallasw pokes legoktm [18:41:17] 🛄3 phabricator 👥6 phabricator.org: Write Quips extension for Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73245#792090 (ABCD) 🎫5 tag,tag [18:41:23] emoji! [18:42:32] :OO [18:42:41] oh my [18:43:00] valhallasw`cloud: you're going to break the internet [18:43:06] :-D [18:43:35] does quassel do emoji? [18:45:21] yup [19:04:47] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792097 (10wctaiwan) [19:18:03] 3Phabricator: Replace default avatar icon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256#792109 (10thiemowmde) [19:18:31] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792111 (10wctaiwan) I agree with MZMcBride. I feel like this may be a valid upstream bug, if it isn't doable right now. (Other organisations running Phabricator in serious business mode may also not want whi... [19:22:38] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899 (10yuvipanda) [19:22:52] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#15172 (10yuvipanda) I'd like to think of tokens as barnstars, and hence useful :) [19:24:15] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792123 (10Rjd0060) >>! In T899#792113, @yuvipanda wrote: > I'd like to think of tokens as barnstars, and hence useful :) But they are being awarded to bugs/tasks, not users. "Congratulations, software bug!... [19:27:54] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792125 (10Isarra) [19:48:28] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792140 (10Dereckson) >>! In T899#792123, @Rjd0060 wrote: >>>! In T899#792113, @yuvipanda wrote: >> I'd like to think of tokens as barnstars, and hence useful :) > > But they are being awarded to bugs/tasks,... [20:30:23] 3Phabricator: Reporters of imported reports should receive notifications for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T896#792173 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Volunteer? [20:30:32] 3Phabricator: Reporters of imported reports should receive notifications for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T896#792174 (10Aklapper) [20:32:26] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Fix search in Wikimedia Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75854#792177 (10Aklapper) Nik: Does the "Blocked By" list here provide useful examples? e.g. stemming (delete does not find deleting does not find deletion); searching "wmfusercontent" doesn't find "wmfusercon... [20:45:02] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792189 (10Qgil) [20:54:36] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#792191 (10Qgil) [21:12:06] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154#792215 (10Qgil) [21:18:21] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154#792233 (10Qgil) [21:19:49] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154#792004 (10Qgil) [21:24:36] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154#792241 (10Qgil) Worksforme... This is how I tested: @qgil-test is subscribed to this task, not being a member of any of the projects involved.... [21:27:04] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator ignoring "A task is moved between columns on a workboard." e-mail user preference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76154#792245 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low [21:40:55] 3Project-Management, Team-Practices: Goal: Common project management guidelines to be followed by teams and individual contributors are published - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T558#792267 (10Qgil) [21:41:11] 3Project-Management: Document how to work with workboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T504#792268 (10Qgil) a:3Qgil [21:59:29] 3Phabricator, Engineering-Community: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#792304 (10Qgil) [22:02:15] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: We need a Wikimedia process for filing tasks and patches upstream in the name of Wikimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1298#792313 (10Qgil) [22:02:17] 3Project-Management: Goal: The majority of WMF developer teams and sprints have moved to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T825#792314 (10Qgil) [22:02:18] 3Project-Management: Phabricator as Wikimedia software project management tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T824#792315 (10Qgil) [22:04:02] 3Project-Management, Team-Practices: Goal: Common project management guidelines to be followed by teams and individual contributors are published - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T558#792322 (10Qgil) [22:47:42] valhallasw, WOW https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Diffusion/Callsign_naming_conventions/Existing_repositories_valhallasw [22:48:04] qgil_: looks like more work than it was :-p [22:48:15] then WOW WOW :) [22:48:25] excel + mark duplicates helps a lot ;-) [22:48:52] I have no idea how "the community" will react, but here goes my recognition. :) [22:49:36] :-) thanks [22:50:21] all responses I got were mostly positive and (as expected ;-)) nitpicking on some points [22:51:12] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#792390 (10Tgr) Wikipedia supports storing private data via the options API, Gerrit supports storing private data via draft inline comments, Phabricator (and before that, Bugzilla) supports storing... [22:52:01] Well, it's a wiki and the only requirement is "Four sensible letters that nobody has used before" [22:52:55] VisualEditor/VisualEditor -> MWVE? [22:53:17] what? [22:54:20] {{sofixit}} [22:54:54] 3Phabricator: Investigate and perhaps disable edit caching in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75834#792395 (10Tgr) [22:54:55] I'm completely confused by the mess of VE repositories [22:54:59] Is the MW supposed to stand for MediaWiki? [22:55:03] yes [22:55:35] apparently Extension/VisualEditor-MediaWiki is supposed to be the extension [22:55:41] VisualEditor/VisualEditor -> VE core [22:55:41] mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor -> VE integration into MediaWiki [22:55:48] so I'm not sure wht VisualEditor/VisualEditor is supposed to be [22:55:50] err [22:56:03] VE core = the javascript part? [22:56:19] and extension/VE binds that to parsoid? or something like that? [22:56:30] both repos have javascript parts [22:56:41] ... [22:57:11] MW integration obviously has some PHP in there to register as an extension, handle loading modules, contacting parsoid, etc. [22:57:31] okay let me rephrase [22:57:45] VE core == takes HTML with some extra stuff and builds the interface in your browser [23:00:11] yes, it can run standalone without MW [23:01:35] OK. Well, renamed them to GVED and EVED now [23:01:54] could also be VEVE and EXVE or something like that, but I don't really care :-p [23:02:24] as long as core doesn't become MWVE :) [23:03:19] I'm also confused by service/parsoid and extension/parsoid :/ [23:04:14] the extension talks to the service talks to ext:vised-in-the-browser talks to visualeditor talks to the user? [23:04:34] E:Parsoid was required briefly, and for all MW 1.23 users. It handles caching in MW [23:04:51] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Parsoid [23:06:10] at least that's my understanding. I don't work on parsoid [23:06:25] I see. [23:41:32] 3Phabricator: My Bugzilla contributions did not get claimed in Phab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76169 (10Betacommand) 3NEW p:3Triage