[00:15:25] <^d> We clearly need a hulk meme on phabricator. [00:32:06] I need a copy of Phabricators and its Wikimedia config. [00:32:19] * Carmela looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Code [00:33:58] https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/?r=phabricator/phabricator.git is what we're running? [00:34:22] <^d> Some tag of that, yes. [00:34:33] I was going to look up the exact specs of call signs. [00:34:34] <^d> Tag's specified in puppet role, iirc. [00:34:38] Because that still wasn't clear to me. [00:34:39] From the list. [00:35:00] And I need to investigate some other auto-link mangling. But I actually need Gerrit config for that. [00:35:44] Which would be in operations-puppet, maybe? [00:36:01] <^d> Yes. [00:36:15] <^d> '/r(?P[A-Z]+)(?P[a-z0-9]+)' <- at least one [A-Z]+ for callsigns. [00:36:44] <^d> Yep, I see [A-Z]+ in regular expressions all over the place. [00:37:23] No separators allowed, huh? [00:37:29] I'm still cloning the repo. [00:38:55] <^d> DiffusionRepositoryCreateController.php -- line ~389 [00:38:56] <^d> } else if (!preg_match('/^[A-Z]+\z/', $v_call)) { [00:39:09] <^d> That's in the "create a repo" bit. [00:39:23] \z? [00:39:52] <^d> end of string. [00:40:01] Ah. [00:40:07] <^d> pht('The callsign must contain only UPPERCASE letters.') <- error that's spit out when you fail that regex. [00:40:26] Nice. [00:40:29] Cool, thanks. [00:40:34] <^d> yw. [00:40:48] They are basically just noise to ensure that there aren't cross-repo hash collisions [00:41:06] <^d> That too [00:41:22] which makes the debate hi-larious [00:41:51] We did all right. [00:42:02] <^d> /[A-Z]{4}/ is gonna work out well. [00:42:05] That first wiki page was rough, but everybody noticed and we're doing better now. [00:42:08] Yeah. [00:45:23] <^d> Next step is pruning that list of stuff that's either already deleted or should be deleted so we don't waste time migrating. [00:45:52] Yeah. [00:51:17] bd808: Bikesheddable hashes. [00:52:21] * bd808 prefers corned beef hash [00:52:31] bikesheds are too crunchy [01:06:59] hmmm, appears that i can edit members of a project in phabricator [01:07:04] (e.g. remove people?) [01:07:23] is that intended? [01:08:33] <^d> Permissions are per-project. [01:08:55] <^d> I set my projects to "editable by members of project" so you at least have to join them to edit. [01:10:17] ok, i see [01:10:36] * aude doesn't see it a problem as i trust everyone [01:25:22] Is there a way to delete a project's workboard? [01:25:46] Someone's created one for a thematic "project" cut in VE that doesn't make any sense. [01:31:33] ^d: Uh... Wouldn't that regex fail most non-english characters? [01:31:42] <^d> Yes, yes it does :) [01:31:43] even if they're uppercase letters? [01:32:56] Krenair: i18n is not currently a strength of Phabricator [01:33:03] any where in the app [01:38:06] Anywhere at all. [01:38:12] as a mediawiki developer that just seems so wrong... [01:38:21] E.g. failing on Unicode for importing git repos. [01:38:35] (Thanks ^d for identifying that nugget. :-)) [01:38:46] doh. In commit messages? [01:39:02] bd808: Yeah, I think so. It was fixed. [01:39:19] <^d> Yeah, we weren't able to import things using :emojis: [01:39:27] End of the world. ;-) [01:39:34] Except that includes the history of MW-core, so… [01:40:02] time to re-write all of our git history! [01:40:08] <^d> I wish we could. [01:40:15] <^d> Get rid of those ugly-ass change-ids. [01:40:28] * bd808 demands more 🐼 and ☃ in commit messages [01:40:45] bd808: The latter is actively used in VisualEditor's code, BTW. [01:41:02] Do you use it for a utf-8 check? [01:41:05] bd808: (Placeholder for transclusions.) [01:41:13] nice [01:41:18] No. We assume UTF-8 when we demand ES5. :-) [01:41:22] Maybe we should test… [01:41:31] Not run into a UTF-8 issue yet. [01:41:34] * James_F crosses fingers. [01:42:34] Some frameworks stick a multibyte unicode char into a hidden field so they can detect broken encoding of form input from clients [01:42:51] I think rails actually used the snowman for that [01:42:52] <^d> utf16 or go home [01:43:08] utf128! Waste all the bytes [01:43:16] * James_F grins. [01:43:20] I totally just realized that unicodesnowman in -dev is named unicodesnowman. [01:43:34] legoktm: Roan noticed this morning. :-) [01:43:45] legoktm: (After they fixed a task in Citoid.) [01:44:42] <^d> Since we found all the places callsigns are hardcoded do you think we could write a patch to expand it? I'm mainly thinking all of unicode. [01:44:58] <^d> Then we don't need multiple characters for callsigns. Everyone gets a picture. [01:45:05] ^d: Woo. [01:45:15] ^d: Non-BMP Unicode or go home. [01:45:29] ^d: (Yes.) [01:45:39] I have a strong suspicion that Evan would veto that. I might be surprised I guess. [01:46:25] It's not the most pressing i18n issue in Phabricator, to be fair. [01:46:34] <^d> How could he pass up the opportunity to rename the P repo to 🐼? [01:47:22] U+1F4A9 would be the one that was hard to decide who to give. Maybe scap. [01:47:35] Pile of poo? [01:47:38] * James_F guesses. :-) [01:47:40] yup [01:47:49] Aha. Yeah. [01:49:10] gah. this osx 10.10 bug with bluetooth is driving me crazy. my mouse disconnects and then reconnects like once every 15 minutes. :/ [01:54:40] <^d> RESOLVED WFM [01:56:12] 3Phabricator: Adding/removing blockers/dependencies should show up on the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556 (10Tgr) 3NEW p:3Triage [02:07:06] 3Phabricator.org: Cmd/ctrl+z do not undo formatting changes like make link, or code block in phabricator descriptions or commente - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76536#804512 (10Aklapper) [02:10:12] 3Phabricator.org: Support for invision live embeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76529#804664 (10Aklapper) Please provide a description of the problem you would like to solve in this ticket. [02:27:05] 3Phabricator.org: Markup in user hover cards is rendered as raw text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76511#805481 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [02:28:29] 3MobileFrontend-Hygiene, Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#805547 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [02:28:31] 3Phabricator.org: Adding/removing blockers/dependencies should show up on the task page in its inline history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556#805549 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Low [02:56:45] 3Phabricator: Short term plan for security and private tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76401#805587 (10Aklapper) //**Reminder** when you write stuff that's more than just a link: This is a public task.// Regarding {T75774}, I have pasted the full list of items there and I prefer to leave judging whet... [03:11:21] 3Phabricator: Map from bugzilla aliases to phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240#805611 (10Mattflaschen) [03:48:06] 3Phabricator: Map from bugzilla aliases to phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240#805723 (10MZMcBride) [04:16:00] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#805731 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T76098#800171, @Mattflaschen wrote: > One thing to check is that the triggering event (e.g. a subscriber change) occurred after the preference change.... [07:11:59] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#805982 (10Qgil) [07:18:18] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#806002 (10Qgil) [07:20:51] 3Phabricator: Short term plan for security and private tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76401#806014 (10Qgil) [07:28:58] 3Engineering-Community, Project-Management: Tech Talk: Phabricator for Wikimedia projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T557#806057 (10Qgil) [07:37:34] 3Phabricator: Reduce or eliminate bracketed labels to shorten phabricator emails subjects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T650#806094 (10Quiddity) [08:57:36] 3Phabricator.org: Support for invision live embeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76529#806201 (10Qgil) [08:57:45] 3Phabricator.org: Support for invision live embeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76529#806202 (10Qgil) [09:00:17] 3Phabricator.org: Dashboard tab panel limit is limiting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76532#806206 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? Interesting use of panels! I agree that this limitation seems to be quite arbitrary. [09:03:04] 3Phabricator.org: Uploading images in Tasks comments or descriptions should automatically create pholio mock - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76526#806212 (10Qgil) [09:03:04] hey andre__afk [09:03:32] This user is now online in #wikimedia-dev. I'll let you know when they show some activity (talk, etc.) [09:03:32] @notify andre__afk [09:05:07] 3WMF-Design, Phabricator.org: Uploading Sketch files as pholio mocks should create a page and preview mockup for each artboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76527#806216 (10Qgil) [09:07:42] 3WMF-Design, Phabricator.org: Uploading Sketch files as pholio mocks should create a page and preview mockup for each artboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76527#806218 (10Qgil) [09:10:45] 3Phabricator.org: Support for invision live embeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76529#806225 (10Qgil) [09:25:15] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#806237 (10Qgil) Another hypothesis: "(someone) updated subscribers of (some task)" appears in web notifications when someone CCs **you** manually in a task. In my preferences I'm i... [09:51:58] 3Project-Management: "changed Security from none to none." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T479#806261 (10Qgil) p:5Low>3Normal This problem triggered in a any new or migrated task plus T76008 is more than a cosmetic problem. Increasing priority. @mmodell, if you think your code is fine and this is someth... [09:58:42] 3Phabricator.org: Tasks should have structured way to view all media that had been mentioned, or attached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76530#806275 (10Qgil) [09:59:13] 3Phabricator.org: Tasks should have structured way to view all media that had been mentioned, or attached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76530#802655 (10Qgil) [09:59:43] 3Phabricator.org: Tasks should have structured way to view all media that had been mentioned, or attached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76530#806277 (10Qgil) [10:00:42] 3Phabricator.org: Tasks should have structured way to view all media that had been mentioned, or attached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76530#802655 (10Qgil) [10:08:35] 3Phabricator.org: Tasks should have structured way to view all media that had been mentioned, or attached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76530#806282 (10Qgil) [10:14:35] 3Engineering-Community, Phabricator: Determine phabricator.wikimedia.org service level - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76381#806301 (10Qgil) 5Open>3Resolved Just for the record, I checked with @RobLa-WMF and he also agreed to keep the current service level until further notice. I'm resolving this task.... [10:17:30] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#806313 (10Qgil) Which 30 minute slot are you thinking of? Would it be always the same slot, or depending? Do you plan to use it regularly, or would we be booking the... [10:19:26] 3Phabricator.org: Project suggestion dropdown should show more items than 5 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75737#806318 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Volunteer? I don't think we are going to work actively on this in the short term. We will wait for upstream. [10:39:31] 3Phabricator.org: Adding/removing blockers/dependencies should show up on the task page in its inline history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76556#806370 (10Qgil) Yes, I have been peeking at this problem as well. Thank you for reporting it. Have you checked whether someone has submitted this problem upstream? [10:41:51] 3Phabricator.org: Markup in user hover cards is rendered as raw text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76511#806379 (10Qgil) [10:44:35] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#806380 (10Krenair) [10:48:50] 3Phabricator.org: Cmd/ctrl+z do not undo formatting changes like make link, or code block in phabricator descriptions or commente - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76536#806384 (10Qgil) [10:58:17] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Possibility to display different types of cards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154#806403 (10Qgil) [11:25:30] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#806502 (10Qgil) a:5Qgil>3None [11:25:35] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#806503 (10Qgil) [11:27:05] 3Phabricator.org: Per-user projects for personal work in progress tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#806508 (10Qgil) [11:36:04] 3Phabricator.org: Dashboard tab panel limit is limiting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76532#806547 (10mmodell) [11:38:55] 3Phabricator.org: Per-user projects for personal work in progress tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#806565 (10Qgil) I think it is useful that @bd808 experiments a bit with this pseudofeature while the good solution comes from upstream. We can create this project and maybe a couple more if they co... [11:42:56] 3Phabricator.org: Uploading images in Tasks comments or descriptions should automatically create pholio mock - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76526#806580 (10mmodell) This is probably a suggestion for upstream as doing this ourselves would almost certainly require maintaining a fork of phabricator which we a... [11:52:42] 3Project-Management: "changed Security from none to none." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T479#806611 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [12:13:38] 3Phabricator.org: Turning files into Pholio mocks by commenting on them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76526#806743 (10Qgil) [12:22:59] 3Phabricator.org: Turning files into Pholio mocks by commenting on them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76526#806791 (10Qgil) [12:38:00] andre__afk: I just got 3 x "Wikimedia Foundation Error" when trying to add a token on Phabricator: http://dpaste.com/29F95HD [12:38:31] this was the URL: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/token/give/PHID-TASK-asnsgcwx2q4uzlkgm3pb/ [12:38:59] and this is the task I was trying to add a token to: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59935 [12:39:54] the error appeared when I used the middle button of the mouse in the link "Award Token" [13:05:46] Helder, "Item not found" for dpaste [13:06:06] and looks like you managed the 4th time? [13:06:37] hmm, if that happens again, please file a task [13:32:29] 3Phabricator, Wikimedia-Site-requests, SUL-Finalization: Set $wgCentralAuthPreventUnattached = true; on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76146#807093 (10Nemo_bis) [13:39:36] 3Engineering-Community, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#807111 (10Nemo_bis) [13:39:44] 3Phabricator.org: Per-user projects for personal work in progress tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#807116 (10valhallasw) From the wikibugs-side: as long as the icon is not {icon briefcase} or {icon users}, the tag will not be listed on IRC, so using {icon accounting} makes sense. [13:40:28] 3Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Metrics for key Wikimedia projects software in Maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28#807124 (10Nemo_bis) [13:48:45] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#807146 (10Nemo_bis) [14:00:11] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#807158 (10Aklapper) [14:16:02] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#807196 (10Aklapper) [14:16:21] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#807199 (10Aklapper) [14:55:57] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#807261 (10Aklapper) Note to myself: Add another query for "shell requests closed in last month" for Guillaume as the UI does not offer that and add G... [14:56:10] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#807262 (10chasemp) >>! In T76522#806313, @Qgil wrote: > Which 30 minute slot are you thinking of? Would it be always the same slot, or depending? Do you plan to use i... [15:08:52] 3Phabricator: Import Bugzilla component descriptions and set them as Phabricator project description? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T690#807273 (10Aklapper) a:5Aklapper>3None I don't plan to do further week here (see my previous comment) as there's more important stuff on my list. Unassigning. [15:09:55] ^d I saw some repo deletion task but don't see it [15:09:58] 3Phabricator: Import Bugzilla component descriptions and set them as Phabricator project description? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T690#807277 (10Aklapper) [15:10:02] can you assign that to me if you know the #? [15:10:48] hmm, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/repository-admins/ doesn't list anything either [15:13:16] chasemp: rVE. There isn't a task for it. [15:13:22] Just mentioned on IRC late last night. [15:14:59] wingswednesday: gotcha, since I know why (compliance with 4 char standard) no problems here [15:15:03] done [15:15:30] ty [15:15:42] MW is going to be anti-standard but MWMW is silly and I'm not importing it again :p [15:15:58] I will refer all pedantics to you :) [15:16:19] wingswednesday: said he hates standards and america!!!!111oneone [15:16:44] MW and VE are fine as they are also prefixes :-p [15:17:00] VE's gone now :) [15:18:02] ah, I thought the plan was to use VE/VEMW instead of GVED/EVED [15:18:15] well, either is fine with me [15:19:48] Either way is fine by me too, I just don't want the existing repo to cloud the discussion :) [15:21:03] wingswednesday: are we waiting to call it decided? [15:21:41] I was going to start importing some of the uncontroversial ones shortly. [15:21:58] I think the one-letter prefixes are fine. Possibly some discussion about two letter prefixes. [15:22:22] valhallasw`cloud: I was thinking LT -> T. Since there's lots of tools having 26^3 options is way more to work with than ^2 [15:22:44] yeah, good idea [15:23:21] could you figure out the corresponding three-letter callsigns then? [15:24:01] the docs could say "up to a 4 letter designation" and thus MW is compliant and it gets a bit more wiggle room [15:24:12] but I have no qualms about whatever in that realm [15:24:37] GerardM-: Hi! Did getting your account on Phab work out in the end? (I'm sorry for the late following up.) [15:24:57] chasemp: my argument would be 'the most important repo in the M* namespace, so it's OK' [15:25:04] but maybe it should then actually be just 'M' :-p[ [15:25:42] The most important argument is "Chad isn't importing 10 years of history to phabricator again" [15:25:45] but saying '4 chars, with wiggle room for important repos' also makes sense [15:25:46] That took like 3 days :p [15:25:49] haha [15:26:26] we can also say 'MW is grandfathered in. Deal with it.' [15:26:59] sounds good [16:49:26] // TODO: This has some duplication with (and lacks some of the validation [16:49:26] // of) the web workflow; [16:49:30] James_F: Heh ^ [16:49:43] wingswednesday: Lovely. :-) [17:00:24] 3Phabricator.org: Provide a way to upload a file if no drag'n'drop available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165#807423 (10Anomie) >>! In T165#802684, @Qgil wrote: > {nav icon=eye, name=Phabricator > > icon=globe, name=Applications > > icon=file, name=Files > > icon=upload} Four pages to click through is f... [17:04:32] valhallasw`cloud: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Phabricator%2FDiffusion%2FCallsign_naming_conventions%2FExisting_repositories&diff=1300090&oldid=1297076 [17:15:43] is there a way to bulk-unsubscribe from tasks in phabricator? [17:16:14] or take bulk actions in general? [17:26:43] 3Phabricator: Implement a way to index Phabricator tasks by Wikimedia wiki family - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40994#807483 (10Aklapper) [17:33:28] awjr: Yes. [17:33:55] awjr: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/oWahpWd72VCA/#R is a list of (the first 100) tasks I'm CC'ed on/subscribed to. [17:34:20] awjr: At the bottom of the screen, there should be a "Batch Task Editor" control, which has a "Remove CCs" option. [17:34:39] awjr: If you don't have that control, we need to add you to the "Triagers" group so you can. [17:34:55] yes! thanks so much James_F [17:35:16] awjr: And the mixed naming in Phabricator doesn't help. :-( [17:35:38] James_F: oh i don't see 'batch task editor' at the bottom :( [17:36:07] wingswednesday: +2 [17:36:30] James_F: who do i need to talk to about getting added to the triagers group? [17:36:38] as an aside, why is that feature only available to traigers? [17:37:05] awjr: It's easy to be very disruptive and hard to fix. Same reason it was only available to the "editbugs" group on Bugzilla. [17:37:34] huh; i must've always been in the 'editbugs' group :) [17:37:51] andre__: hmm, not sure if https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76375 is 'needs volunteer'. One of the labs admins (me, coren, andrew) will get to it as soon as a subtask is filed. Can I set it back to 'normal'? [17:38:00] YuviPanda, ah sure [17:38:00] awjr: Yeah, lots of old-timers were grandfathered into the "editbugs" group in Bugzilla, but it was quite limited. [17:38:19] YuviPanda, please always overwrite me. I just try to help, while maintainers/devs should always know better than me :) [17:38:21] James_F: can you add me to the traigers group, or do i need to bug andre__ [17:38:24] awjr: To be added to Triagers, file a task on the #Phabriactor group. [17:38:25] pun intended [17:38:29] kk [17:38:29] awjr: I can't, sorry. [17:38:30] lololol [17:38:35] * James_F is but a lowly mortal. [17:38:41] awjr, let me do that [17:38:41] andre__: :) thank you! I have. [17:38:47] thanks andre__ :D [17:38:57] done [17:39:00] w00t! [17:39:10] yay! thanks so much; lifesaver [17:39:57] James_F, valhallasw`cloud: I think we have consensus. I'm going to close T1314. [17:44:11] wingswednesday: Go for it. [17:44:14] 3Phabricator: Redesign phabricator login page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T862#807529 (10Awjrichards) [17:44:23] wingswednesday: And send the e-mail announcing it as too late. :-) [17:46:00] 3MediaWiki-Core-Team, Code-Review: Import all gerrit.wikimedia.org repositories with Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T616#807595 (10Chad) [17:49:51] another phab q - is there a way to search for tasks in a particular column of a specific workboard? in particular, i'd like to be able to search for all open tasks in the 'done' column on the team practices workboard (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/team-practices/board/) so that i can close them all with the bulk editor thingy [17:50:34] i took a look at the advanced search page but there doesn't seem to be a field or option that relates to workboard columns [17:51:44] I don't think it's possible. At least I'm not aware [17:56:14] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Easily close all tasks in a particular workboard column - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1284#807613 (10Awjrichards) [17:57:33] ok, thanks andre__ [18:06:14] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#807650 (10csteipp) > Maybe the simplest scenario is to have an email address i.e. security-bugs@, in the lines of T675? The more I thought about this, the more I don't think this will work. To be... [18:18:50] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Easily close all tasks in a particular workboard column - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1284#807676 (10bd808) +1 for being able to search (and group by) workboard column. [18:43:01] awjr: No, column-based actions aren't possible. Which really sucks. E.g. "move tasks with a priority that isn't 'untriaged' to the 'backlog' column". [18:43:13] awjr: In the end I had to manually move 700 tickets. Ouch. [18:43:17] yeah, that is a bummer! [18:43:50] * James_F filed an upstream feature request. We'll see. [19:26:42] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Numeric anchor in phabricator to link to a comment of a task does not work in IE11 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76629 (10Umherirrender) 3NEW p:3Triage [19:44:21] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs fails to link Phab task in some IRC notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76650 (10matmarex) 3NEW p:3Triage [19:48:19] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Numeric anchor in phabricator to link to a comment of a task does not work in IE11 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76629#808253 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? But how would some c help here (and no, it's not easily possible to add that)? If that's an IE issue, is there... [19:48:37] 3Phabricator.org: Numeric anchor in phabricator to link to a comment of a task does not work in IE11 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76629#808264 (10Aklapper) [19:52:06] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Easily close all tasks in a particular workboard column - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1284#808271 (10Qgil) [19:56:19] 3Phabricator.org: Numeric anchor in phabricator to link to a comment of a task does not work in IE11 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76629#808280 (10valhallasw) it seems that in IE11, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76204#802378 does not work, while e.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76204#ancho... [20:00:14] qgil: running 2 minutes behind here [20:00:41] ok [20:01:15] twentyafterfour, meeting? [20:01:40] here [20:02:51] sorry hangout slowness, joining [21:10:27] James_F, I can't find that task filed upstream you are referring to... [21:11:54] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Easily close all tasks in a particular workboard column - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1284#808537 (10Qgil) [21:18:27] 3Phabricator.org: Adding dependencies while creating a (sub-)task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54#808543 (10Qgil) [21:32:38] andre__ or anyone: is there a Maniphest query equivalent for searching Summar "contains all the strings": "Talk page" ? It seems Maniphest Advanced Search doesn't let you search for words in a particular field [21:32:51] no it doesn't [21:34:53] andre__: oh OK. Can we make an Phabricator enhancement request? If you trust the summary it's an important way to restrict matches. [21:35:28] sure, anybody can file request in upstream [21:36:01] however I'd like to avoid adding the "Wikimedia" project to a task as requests can often be single opinions and not some statements by some WMF development crew or such [21:36:29] I myself am not convinced yet that it's helpful to differentiate between task summary and description when searching [21:36:36] but different people have different usecases :) [22:04:22] is there a phabricator app for polls? [22:05:00] ah https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/slowvote/ [22:05:27] loomio: replace loomio with slowvote [22:09:40] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/vote/ [22:10:06] <^d> voting is evil!!!!11! [22:12:13] so you say you vote against voting? [22:12:46] <^d> I'll abstain from voting on voting. [22:15:32] andre__ or anyone: what's the equivalent to enhancement bugs in Phabricator? [22:15:45] there's none [22:16:02] why care? [22:18:18] (actually, that was a serious question for a usecase.) [22:23:21] "enhancement" was a type of bug because people say bugs are only broken things not non-existing things [22:23:26] but now everything is a "task" not a bug anyways [22:23:28] so shrug [22:24:13] maybe it's a flag/tag though? [22:24:16] gotta run.. boarding call [22:24:28] yeah, but how does that matter when it comes to workflows and planning? :P [22:24:47] maybe it does in a scrum context, so I ask [22:25:12] but if I can choose between spending half of the time discussing the severity or priority of a ticket or if it's a bug or a feature or actually working on resolving the task, I go for the latter and erase the first. :) [22:25:13] Unfortunately we still have "priority". :P [22:25:19] it might just influence how people prioritize it.. [22:25:29] that :) cya [22:25:33] and when it comes to categorizing tasks, I can offer a dozen other categories :) [22:25:47] spagewmf, ^ [22:28:50] <^d> The solution to priority and such is to ignore them :) [22:29:06] <^d> I have an internal priority on every bug I read. That's the only priority I think about :) [22:30:49] I can likely offer literature (though about Bugzilla) to kind of "prove" that such differentiation is rather useless. But still, wondering if I miss sth in scrum context [22:34:35] andre__: well my use case is what to do with Trello backlog cards, https://trello.com/b/HD0lBssr/flow-backlog [22:35:38] spagewmf, I'm afraid to come across as ignorant, but: Import into Phab and don't care whether somebody considered sth is an enhancement or not? :) [22:35:46] if you care I'd like to know why you care. [22:36:54] a lot of those are just good future ideas, so in Bugzilla they would be enhancement bugs against the Flow extension. If we migrate to Phab I'm thinking not in our team project or its workboard, so just in mediawiki-extension-Flow, priority Low [22:37:15] I think I'm agreeing with you [22:37:29] spagewmf, ...or priority "Needs Volunteer" if there are no resources to work on them. Might be even more realistic. [22:37:50] also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Priority_levels [22:39:19] andre__: yes, problem is the "would be happy if someone does [work on it]" is a little stronger than "seems like a good idea" Hmmm [22:39:25] hehe [22:40:34] andre__: thanks for your insight. How was the phuket trip/celebration? [22:40:55] you haven't seen the photos yet? :P [22:46:44] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819#808691 (10Qgil) [22:57:32] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#808728 (10Aklapper) > Volume of tasks in the "shell" project resolved/fixed in last month, requested by Guillaume Hmm, no, I can't https://phabricat... [23:03:08] 3Engineering-Community, Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Phabricator: Monthly report of total / active Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003#808744 (10mmodell) [23:05:19] 3WMF-Design, Phabricator.org: Uploading Sketch files as pholio mocks should create a page and preview mockup for each artboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76527#808751 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @qgil, where do I propose that? [23:11:10] 3WMF-Design, Phabricator.org: Uploading Sketch files as pholio mocks should create a page and preview mockup for each artboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76527#808762 (10Qgil) In https://secure.phabricator.org (at your own risk) :) [23:16:40] 3Phabricator: Add needs-consensus tag for "contested" tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76311#808776 (10matmarex) [23:16:53] 3Project-Management: Document how to work with workboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T504#808778 (10Qgil) Actually https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Boards looks quite good already now. Thank you @Spage! I will try to find some time tomorrow to have a fresh look on this task... [23:17:11] 3Phabricator.org: Cmd/ctrl+z do not undo formatting changes like make link, or code block in phabricator descriptions or commente - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76536#808780 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) Sounds like it might be Mac specific then? [23:20:25] 3Phabricator.org: Tasks should have structured way to view all media that had been mentioned, or attached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76530#808790 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @qgil that doesn't cover instances where a resource like a svg of an icon is added to a task, then later updated, it isn't a mockup, a... [23:23:20] 3WMF-Design, Phabricator.org: Uploading Sketch files as pholio mocks should create a page and preview mockup for each artboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76527#808791 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) logged at https://secure.phabricator.com/T6684 [23:24:25] 3Phabricator.org: Support for invision live embeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76529#808792 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [23:36:02] <^d> andre__: re: "people not on Phabricator" --> maybe a wmfall@ e-mail is warranted :) [23:36:15] <^d> "So, you haven't signed up for Phab yet? You should. Everybody should" :) [23:37:09] Oh the peautiful pleasures of peer pressure! I admit I have not signed up to Loomio yet either so i also miss out on some phun :) [23:37:41] 3WMF-Design, Phabricator.org: Uploading Sketch files as pholio mocks should create a page and preview mockup for each artboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76527#808822 (10Reedy) [23:40:23] <^d> andre__: You haven't missed a thing :p [23:40:57] <^d> Reedy: Is your avatar a bunny with a stroopwafel on its head? [23:41:33] I think it's a pancake ;) [23:41:39] oh, no [23:41:48] just a waffle, not a stroopwaffel [23:42:39] <^d> Aww