[00:44:28] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/daemon/ :/ [00:45:11] search is now super far behind [01:25:04] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Prevent private information being leaked via Herald notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T493#824149 (10Krenair) [06:27:00] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#824237 (10Qgil) [06:30:24] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#824242 (10Qgil) 5stalled>3Open p:5Normal>3Volunteer? [06:32:36] 3Phabricator.org: Web notifications for multiple actions only show "updated subscribers" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#824245 (10Qgil) [06:47:11] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#824246 (10Qgil) The FIXMEs in the wiki page are still unclear (at least to me): * '''FIXME''': what does "[[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#820011 | Anything added by Securit... [06:55:57] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#824256 (10Qgil) Does this mean that we are still stuck with security@ email address? Also, what about a Phabricator extension to report security issues, consisting of a Create Task form, with the... [07:03:27] 3Phabricator: Convert Bugzilla URLs in Tasks into Phabricator {links} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76922#824264 (10Qgil) [07:07:19] 3Phabricator: Converting "See Also" Bugzilla links to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T697#824267 (10Qgil) [07:07:20] 3Phabricator: Convert Bugzilla URLs in Tasks into Phabricator {links} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76922#824266 (10Qgil) [07:10:59] 3Phabricator: Converting "See Also" Bugzilla links to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T697#824270 (10Qgil) Following up on T76922, we need to decide whether we want to translate full bugzilla.wikimedia.org URLs to `T2345` or `{T2345123}`. What about this: * "Bug 345" translates to `T2345`... [07:11:56] 3Phabricator: Make a Herald rule add all #VisualEditor-* tasks to #VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76954#824273 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [07:12:56] 3Phabricator.org: Sticky filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#824276 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [07:16:17] 3Phabricator.org: Sticky filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#824279 (10Qgil) Slightly related: https://secure.phabricator.com/T6641 [07:17:18] 3Phabricator.org: User preview cards do not work consistently - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76906#824281 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [07:18:49] 3Phabricator: Schedule RT migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#824284 (10Qgil) [07:25:22] 3RT-Migration: Migrate RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38#824286 (10Qgil) [07:26:26] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Schedule RT migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#824287 (10Qgil) [07:26:45] 3RT-Migration: Schedule RT migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76773#819602 (10Qgil) [07:31:29] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987 (10Qgil) 3NEW p:3Normal [07:31:52] 3Phabricator: Task says "Restricted Mailing List" instead of "wikibugs-l" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76988 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW p:3Triage [07:34:24] 3RT-Migration: Document the details of the RT migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76989 (10Qgil) 3NEW p:3Normal [07:37:07] 3RT-Migration: Update wiki documentation related to RT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76990#824311 (10Qgil) [07:40:29] 3Phabricator, WMF-Legal: Mention to CreativeCommons license in footer should specify 3.0 or link to it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T644#824320 (10Qgil) [07:41:52] 3Phabricator: Mobile friendly OAuth permission screen when registering to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1126#824321 (10Qgil) [07:45:42] 3Phabricator: phabricator.wikimedia.org should be listed in Special:OAuthListConsumers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T990#824324 (10Qgil) [07:49:27] 3Phabricator: Introducing Bugzilla / RT / Reference number in search should find the corresponding task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T991#824325 (10Qgil) [07:59:58] 3Phabricator: Ensure that all phabricator tasks are crawled by search engines - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76991#824332 (10Nemo_bis) [08:04:13] 3Phabricator.org: 'Attaching' two mediawiki accounts results in AphrontCountQueryException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720#824339 (10Qgil) [08:04:33] 3Phabricator: Allow search engines to crawl diffusion/ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76992 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW p:3Triage [08:11:19] 3Phabricator: Quoting shouldn't readd me to a task I've unsubscribed from - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76993 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW p:3Triage [08:11:36] 3Phabricator: Quoting shouldn't readd me to a task I've unsubscribed from - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76993#824352 (10Nemo_bis) [08:15:26] 3Phabricator: wikibugs-l listed as "Restricted Mailing List" in subscribers when not logged in - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76994#824360 (10wctaiwan) [08:16:13] 3Phabricator: wikibugs-l listed as "Restricted Mailing List" in subscribers when not logged in - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76994#824367 (10Legoktm) [08:18:53] 3Phabricator: Improve default search to prefer tasks over changesets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76273#824368 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low I have documented the possibility to customize your default search queries at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Defining_your_default_search_parameters... [08:19:07] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Improve default search to prefer tasks over changesets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76273#824372 (10Qgil) [08:21:21] 3Phabricator.org: Allow editing of comments only if nobody has responded. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76303#824374 (10Qgil) [08:21:22] 3Phabricator.org: Restrict access to comment removal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1185#824375 (10Qgil) [08:22:23] 3Phabricator, Wikidata: Decide on "Priority" field values for Maniphest tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268#824384 (10Qgil) [08:22:48] 3Phabricator: wikibugs-l listed as "Restricted Mailing List" in subscribers when not logged in - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76994#824388 (10wctaiwan) [08:32:08] 3Phabricator: Clearer instructions in the Phabricator login page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T545#824391 (10Qgil) Even if our current login page is far from ideal, the fact is that we have more than 1000 users now, and we are not hearing complaints. Lowering priority. On a related note, a Google Code-in... [08:39:44] 3Phabricator: Hide the LDAP login form behind a link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T963#824394 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low Lowering priority. The reasoning is the same as in T545#824391. [08:42:02] 3Phabricator: Nonexistent change in custom policy logged when mentioning a security task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76008#824398 (10Qgil) According to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Security#Proposed_Updates_to_Process we are going to get rid of Herald for handling private tasks, and this m... [08:43:07] 3Phabricator: Nonexistent change in custom policy logged when mentioning a security task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76008#824399 (10Qgil) [08:49:52] 3Phabricator: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763#824400 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low The solution I proposed is less simple than we thought. Creating that account in the name of a mailing list is not that simple. Projects relevant to... [09:32:45] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#824420 (10Qgil) [09:33:06] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#802555 (10Qgil) [09:35:07] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#824433 (10Qgil) Alright, maybe we don't need the countdown for the weekly maintenance breaks. I have added a panel to the homepage, and a section here: https://www.m... [09:37:01] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819#824437 (10Qgil) p:5Normal>3Low [09:39:57] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#824438 (10Qgil) >>! In T1322#823360, @Christopher wrote: > I am posting current known issues and bugs here: https://phab08.wmflabs.org/tag/sprint_extension_bugs/ Why not in a project here? [09:42:03] 3MobileFrontend-Hygiene, VisualEditor-TechnicalDebt, Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#824439 (10Qgil) [09:52:26] 3Phabricator.org: Ogv videos doesn't show any image on Phabricator (as "application/ogg" is listed under files.audio-mime-types by default) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75990#824442 (10Qgil) [09:53:47] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#824443 (10Qgil) [09:54:32] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Phabricator boards should live update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129#824451 (10Qgil) [09:54:34] 3Project-Management: Phabricator lacks a "notification" feed similar other project management software: Enable "Flame" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1047#824450 (10Qgil) [09:54:35] 3Phabricator: Following Notification from "flame" menu does not clear notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75791#824449 (10Qgil) [09:54:37] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#824445 (10Qgil) [09:56:06] 3Phabricator.org: Configure the default styling to have a bit bigger font size - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T81#824452 (10Qgil) [10:08:23] 3Phabricator: Decide what to do with tracking bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75703#824476 (10Qgil) I think we could decide the deprecation of the Tracking tag, but without getting too obsessed about it. The idea is that tracking tasks are either converted to projects or to regular tasks with blockers,... [10:12:15] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#824497 (10Qgil) [10:14:37] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Maniphest advanced search contains obscure fields by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1376#824500 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil [10:17:35] 3Phabricator: Closed tasks are included by default in search results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T885#824502 (10Qgil) >>! In T885#15740, @Aklapper wrote: > I'm not sure that the current situation is bad, seeing users creating duplicates in Bugzilla because a task has already been fixed in the codebase bu... [10:19:14] 3Phabricator: Phabricator has poor contrast, using grey on grey everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62#824503 (10Qgil) [10:24:28] 3Phabricator: Phabricator has poor contrast, using grey on grey everywhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62#824506 (10Qgil) [10:27:46] 3Phabricator: evaluate Phabricator's slowvote as a Loomio replacement for WMF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76667#824523 (10Qgil) [10:36:18] 3Phabricator.org: Configure applications with public permissions (and user profiles) to not require users to login - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57#824537 (10Aklapper) [10:37:06] 3Phabricator: Quoting shouldn't readd me to a task I've unsubscribed from - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76993#824543 (10Qgil) A mere reply... to a comment you made. Isn't it reasonable to expect that the commenter wants you to know? In the line above, change "you" by just any Phabricator user, because us... [10:37:20] 3Phabricator.org: Quoting shouldn't readd me to a task I've unsubscribed from - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76993#824545 (10Qgil) [10:46:36] 3Phabricator.org: Merged tasks are not listed among open tasks in search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T884#824560 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil [10:49:53] 3Phabricator.org: Quoting shouldn't readd me to a task I've unsubscribed from - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76993#824563 (10Nemo_bis) >>! In T76993#824543, @Qgil wrote: > A mere reply... to a comment you made. Isn't it reasonable to expect that the commenter wants you to know? Not when the quoted user ha... [10:51:39] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#824564 (10Qgil) Note that you are discussing about something different than what Jared reported. In my comment above I said that I could not reproduce Jared's steps, and this is... [11:07:55] 3Phabricator.org: Allow for anonymous task logging with special template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T972#824572 (10Qgil) I still think that opening task creation and comments to anonymous users will bring much more problems and overhead than benefits. If beta features or whoever in Wikimedia want to of... [11:09:33] 3Phabricator: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763#824575 (10Aklapper) [11:09:59] 3Phabricator.org: Not possible to view desktop site on mobile device - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1172#824576 (10Qgil) [11:11:32] 3Phabricator: Ensure that all phabricator tasks are crawled by search engines - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76991#824579 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [11:12:34] 3Phabricator.org: Workboard edit task popup does not allow commenting on tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1139#824581 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil I think we can decline this one. Edit task pop-up is for editing the task only. For viewing/posting comments, go to the full page. [11:15:17] 3Phabricator.org: Allow to sort tasks by number of tokens - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251#824584 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil Declining here as well. Tokens are not votes. [11:15:54] 3Phabricator.org: Maniphest advanced search contains undefined "Users' Projects" term - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1377#824589 (10Qgil) [11:18:37] 3Phabricator: Converting "See Also" Bugzilla links to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T697#824593 (10Aklapper) Sounds good to me - in both cases one is able to get more information without having to click (once it's shown directly, once when moving the mouse pointer over it). [11:24:41] 3Phabricator.org: Email notification for "edited the task description" does not contain the actual content changes (diff) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75851#824606 (10Qgil) [11:33:19] 3Phabricator.org: Simplify wording in Phabricator tasks (Manifest) emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77003 (10Gryllida) 3NEW p:3Triage [11:35:40] 3Phabricator: Decide what to do with tracking bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75703#824628 (10Lydia_Pintscher) @Qgil: I think that is the wrong ticket id you linked? We have a few tasks in Wikidata that are not worth their own project like T73519 but would still be good to mark as tracking somehow. The... [11:46:00] 3Phabricator: Decide what to do with tracking bugs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75703#824654 (10Qgil) @Lydia_Pintscher: Yes, sorry, I meant T54385. Comment edited. [11:49:19] 3Phabricator.org: Provide alternate style for non-public issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76929#824656 (10Aklapper) [12:26:22] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs should notify on dependency changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77006#824668 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) [12:45:33] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs should notify on dependency changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77006#824687 (10valhallasw) [12:46:36] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs should notify on dependency changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77006#824668 (10valhallasw) [14:12:44] 3Wikibugs: wikibugs should notify on dependency changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77006#824892 (10Qgil) Just a consequence of {T76556}? Merge? [14:34:31] 3Phabricator.org: Allow to sort tasks by number of tokens - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251#824930 (10Aklapper) If anything at all, sorting by number of flags would make more sense than by tokens. But that's something to discuss with upstream first. [14:48:54] 3Project-Management, Research-and-Data, Analytics-Engineering: Migration of Analytics to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T826#824972 (10Qgil) In relation to T434, #Analytics-Engineering looks pretty active. Can we consider this team fully migrated to Phabricator, or are there still tasks / sprin... [14:49:21] 3Phabricator: Bug - Phabricator incorrectly says "pronoun" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77018#824981 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) p:5Normal>3Triage [14:54:10] 3Phabricator.org: Replace "pronoun" in Phabricator Account Settings page by "possessive adjective" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77018#824993 (10Aklapper) [14:55:13] 3Project-Management, Collaboration-Team: Migration of Collaboration team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T828#824996 (10Qgil) [15:04:47] 3Project-Management, WMF-Design: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#825009 (10Qgil) Just a question, these Polish tasks in #WMF-Design, are they copies of existing Trello cards or new tasks created in Phabricator? Same questions for the few tasks in #WMF-Design-... [15:05:25] hm, is there any equivalent of bugzilla's "funnel" when trying to figure out which project X belongs to? [15:05:53] what is "bugzilla's funnel"? [15:06:32] well, in bugzilla when creating a bug you would select a project, and then a component and so forth [15:06:53] ...and in Phabricator you set a project :) [15:07:01] whereas phab seems to just have a big long list [15:07:11] yeah [15:07:32] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/query/active/ lists the active projects [15:07:39] and you can search within the project names [15:18:03] zuzak, the idea is that you start typing X, and what you are looking appears among the suggestions. Have you tried this? [15:20:10] <^d> chasemp: Evan got a patch into master like Friday for that "anybody can mess around with daemon tasks" thing :) [15:21:17] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#825033 (10Christopher) Deployment change is up for review here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/178194/ There were a few more recent commits including fixing crumbs and sort fields... [15:24:12] <^d> twentyafterfour: Do you guys have any planned code pulls from upstream in the near future or are we waiting for anything specific? [15:35:17] 3Phabricator, WMF-Legal: Mention to CreativeCommons license in footer should specify 3.0 or link to it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T644#825043 (10Aklapper) Created a task in http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5824887226630144 [15:35:28] 3Phabricator, WMF-Legal: Mention to CreativeCommons license in footer should specify 3.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T644#825045 (10Aklapper) [15:44:00] ^d, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Maintenance [15:44:32] <^d> Yeah I know about the planned windows. [15:44:38] so Wednesday... [15:44:52] is a planned code pull. [15:44:59] <^d> I know it's a window but didn't know if anything was planned to be pulled with it :) [15:45:09] ah :) [15:45:25] yes, we have five or six tickets in our Phab about stuff that would be fixed by the next code pull [15:45:32] <^d> evan fixed a bug for us that I reported friday :) [15:45:39] <^d> We don't have a task in our phab though. [15:46:00] one thing less to close for me ;)) [15:46:17] <^d> https://secure.phabricator.com/T6702 :) [15:46:39] <^d> I guess early saturday utc. [15:59:12] 3Project-Management: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434#825273 (10Qgil) Alright, here we have some numbers for November. You can [[ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UbVwfi4ECj9KMZwVEJL... [16:00:11] 3Project-Management: [Quarterly Metric] Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management since Phab prod release. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434#825327 (10Qgil) [16:04:25] 3Phabricator: update phabricator on 10/12/2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77082 (10chasemp) 3NEW p:3High [16:04:43] 3Phabricator: update phabricator on 10/12/2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77082#825493 (10chasemp) [16:06:19] 3Phabricator: update phabricator on 10/12/2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77082#825493 (10chasemp) @mmodell do you mind undoing the cherry-pick from BZ import and forwarding the branch with the MW oauth provider? [16:06:42] 3MobileFrontend-Hygiene, VisualEditor-TechnicalDebt, Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#825557 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T75892#824439, @Qgil wrote: >>>! In T75892#790593, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >> Rather than create a new project, just re-lab... [16:07:53] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#825563 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:13:13] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#825675 (10chasemp) I don't understand exactly the idea behind the last suggestion there, but the most straightforward thing would be for us to contribute a patch upstream that allows 'auxiliary' to... [16:13:30] 3Project-Management, Research-and-Data, Analytics-Engineering: Migration of Analytics to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T826#825684 (10ggellerman) Here are Research & Data Trello boards: https://trello.com/b/k5N0ivoM/research-and-data https://trello.com/b/UcQSC5Au/research-and-data-backlog http... [16:16:21] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#825813 (10chasemp) >>! In T518#824246, @Qgil wrote: > The FIXMEs in the wiki page are still unclear (at least to me): > > * '''FIXME''': what does "[[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.o... [16:23:07] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#826098 (10chasemp) >>! In T76564#809438, @Qgil wrote: > @chasemp wrote https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Security#Understanding_.27Security.27_Field_... [16:27:25] 3Engineering-Community, Project-Management: Tech Talk: Phabricator for Wikimedia projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T557#826222 (10Aklapper) [16:30:24] 3Phabricator: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763#826341 (10Nemo_bis) > I also tried to find out the actual number of list subscribers but Mailman does not offer piece of info in its admin UI How so, you just have to visit the subsc... [16:38:35] 3Phabricator: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763#826676 (10Aklapper) [16:42:48] 3Phabricator: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#826853 (10GWicke) [16:43:51] 3Phabricator: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#826853 (10GWicke) [16:44:29] 3Phabricator: Phabricator far too spammy and off-topic to continue posting to wikibugs-l - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T763#826945 (10Nemo_bis) [16:49:43] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#827140 (10Krenair) A Wikimedia blog post? Really? Why? [17:14:23] 3Phabricator, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Remove #mediawiki hashtag from MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77378 (10matmarex) 3NEW p:3Triage [17:31:08] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#828169 (10chasemp) {F19880} Can someone define what these settings should be in production? [17:32:51] <^d> chasemp: Is there any way we can up the # of workers? [17:33:55] yes but I'm not sure on point of diminishing returns and what the balance needs to be [17:34:20] oh [17:34:23] we lowered to 5 [17:34:29] as there were some issues with MORE daemons [17:34:32] we found during launch [17:34:38] the fix should be included on wed [17:34:42] so we can double that at least [17:34:45] <^d> Ah gotcha [17:39:43] <^d> I think we're gaining jobs faster than we can complete them. [17:43:21] I found https://github.com/wikimedia/phabricator-extensions/blob/master/MediaWikiUserpageCustomField.php#L36 :/ [17:43:42] how is that supposed to handle wikis with a content language other than english? [17:44:05] or does it just not because this is only supposed to handle mediawiki.org and nothing else? [17:48:00] <^d> Canonical namespaces will always work :) [17:51:45] <^d> chasemp: Could we go from 5->6 without triggering the issue? [17:54:25] sure [17:54:31] it's in yaml if you upload I"ll merge [17:55:20] <^d> The puppet config is 10 I think. [17:55:26] <^d> 'phd.start-taskmasters' => 10 [17:56:01] <^d> Ah, it's 5 on phab itself. [17:56:06] well that's interesting I did a db override during migration [17:56:13] to fix it puking on itself and forgot [17:56:16] shame on me [17:57:37] <^d> I think we just need to do `phd launch 1 taskmaster` [17:57:49] set to 8 [17:57:52] <^d> Ah ok [17:57:54] we'll see how that fair's [17:58:16] it would probably be fine either way, it was the massive huge dump of work we dumped at the time [17:58:24] and the reverse scalability if you will :) [17:58:27] that was the issue [17:58:32] but rather keep an eye and see [18:10:16] 3Phabricator.org: Add Acceptance Criteria/Checklist feature to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1141#829554 (10Christopher) [18:10:22] <^d> queue utilization is only 6% [18:11:13] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Restricting modification of tasks when they enter sprints - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T819#829590 (10Christopher) [18:13:43] 3Code-Review, Engineering-Community: Define main tasks (epics) for code review in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T584#829694 (10greg) [18:13:53] 3Phabricator.org: Sticky filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#829707 (10Jdlrobson) Yeh I'm aware of the filters but I want a common bookmark that can be shared between people in the project. [18:15:15] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#829735 (10Qgil) Why not? [18:16:05] 3Project-Management, Research-and-Data, Analytics-Engineering: Migration of Analytics to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T826#829762 (10Tnegrin) [18:16:13] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#829766 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [18:19:22] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#829847 (10Qgil) This is not possible today in Phabricator. While this is the situation, we recommend to keep the Joinable By project policy to All Users, unless project membership grants special permissions (which is not... [18:21:31] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator should use different email addresses to notify about actions of different contributors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77681#829925 (10Tgr) [18:27:28] 3Phabricator.org: Content field should have more emphasis in advanced search form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77708#830150 (10Tgr) [18:28:36] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#830177 (10Qgil) [18:35:08] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#830294 (10Qgil) [18:42:06] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#830304 (10chasemp) Easier to talk about on a call due to the minutia, but essentially Operations Task is not semantically correct because that isn't how oper... [18:45:48] 3Phabricator.org: Can't search for orphan tasks in "projects: none" via main advanced search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1329#830401 (10Nemo_bis) 5declined>3Open >>! In T1329#791181, @Aklapper wrote: > for application-specific searches and getting those options that only make sense for that specific... [18:52:53] ^d: willing to jump OPUP to front of line when you get a chance? [18:53:03] <^d> Yeah I can. [18:54:26] <^d> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/OPUP/ [18:54:38] you work quick [18:55:06] <^d> Phabricator is way easier than gerrit :) [18:55:07] the diffusion app still uses teh 'repositories' DB, which is the legacy app [18:55:15] confused the crap out of me for a moment [18:55:24] 695 btw repo's [18:55:30] <^d> Yeah. [18:55:36] is there a count in teh UI? [18:55:38] <^d> I did all MW extensions on like Thurs/Fri [18:56:02] <^d> Not that I know of :\ [18:56:22] it's contexually not important per repo but I like having pretty numbers for count [18:56:27] that way we feel impressed with ourselves [18:57:03] <^d> I don't see any immediate way to coax it out of conduit either. [19:08:02] repositories.query gives you a count [19:08:43] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/conduit/method/repository.query/ uses integer keys, so just add one to the final number :P [19:09:12] 3Phabricator: "Reference" should state that additional information may be available on old-bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75843#830787 (10Nemo_bis) 5duplicate>3declined a:3Nemo_bis > Besides, labels next to form fields in Phabricator don't have a tooltip, and we are not going to have a local... [19:09:16] noice [19:09:23] that conduit stuffs is a bit stale I think [19:09:31] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/daemon/ search is really backlogged :/ [19:11:01] agreed [19:14:46] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#830817 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) I've not seen this again post migration. I'm fine with closing, we can reopen if it starts happening again. [19:15:17] legoktm: some worker query issues discovered when we dumped lots of work on them during migration [19:15:18] and this https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/commit/b5f7e9eec60aea093a3430518f061610db7bdb7b [19:15:26] hopefully workers with large backlog improve post wed [19:16:06] 3Phabricator: Enabling Herald - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T630#830826 (10Mattflaschen) [19:17:06] niceeeee [19:23:42] 3Phabricator.org: Replace "pronoun" in Phabricator Account Settings page by "possessive adjective" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77018#830940 (10Nemo_bis) Can just say "choose the phrasing", or just copy MediaWiki (but we already told them). [19:25:11] 3Phabricator, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Remove #mediawiki hashtag from MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77378#830982 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Aklapper Done [19:26:30] 3Phabricator.org: Bug list by emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825#831032 (10Nemo_bis) [19:28:09] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator double posting comments after initial post action seems to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T955#831086 (10Aklapper) [19:29:41] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#831150 (10Aklapper) My question is why you might not allow anybody to just join the project. [19:32:01] 3Phabricator: Mobile friendly OAuth permission screen when registering to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1126#831225 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) @qgil probably? I honestly don't know, perhaps Chris S. would want to weigh in. [19:35:58] 3Project-Management, WMF-Design: Migration of the Design team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T832#831343 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [19:36:23] 3Project-Management, Collaboration-Team: Migration of Collaboration team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T828#831344 (10Mattflaschen) [19:46:40] 3Phabricator: Unclear what the point of tokens in Phabricator is - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T899#831393 (10Legoktm) [19:57:57] 3Phabricator.org: Empty search scrolls down to results - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T370#831433 (10Qgil) [20:04:08] 3Phabricator, Project-Management: Deploy Phabricator Sprint Extension in Production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1322#831445 (10Qgil) The same policies as we have for regular Projects and regular Maniphest here in production. The changes compared with the screenshot are: * Default View policy: Public *... [20:30:01] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#831480 (10Qgil) [20:32:55] twentyafterfour, chasemp I was wondering... can someone claim an email address they don't have access anymore in order to claim their Bugzilla / RT activity? [20:33:05] main use case: former Wikimedia Foundation employees [20:33:11] not directly [20:33:18] but then again, they couldn't recover their BZ stuff either [20:33:34] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Users CCed in private tasks should be able to access them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T518#831483 (10chasemp) [20:33:47] not directly means that there is an indirect way? :) [20:33:53] asking you or andre? [20:34:02] we could assign it to someone arbitrary [20:34:10] er... it's me, qgil [20:34:13] but I don't have the confidence in identities to do it [20:35:10] sure, so if you or andre validated someone is some old BZ email we could one-off that if important [20:35:20] but without access to the email, there is no way to do this [20:35:51] ok [20:36:42] this will mean more bzimports that I thought, because I missed this (actually very simple) point. Ok, let's wait to see if anybody complains. [20:36:59] I told someone else I would defer to Andre on this situation [20:37:13] (one person so far has asked) [20:37:54] I think we can address the identity problem in those cases that are relevant (people with hundreds of bugs/comments) [20:38:35] face to face events, "face to face" hangouts [20:39:28] ok, thank you [20:39:36] is there a task somewhere (upstream?) about linking to multiple oauth accounts? [20:40:23] 3Phabricator: A direct way to submit a security report as a private task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76563#831487 (10Qgil) [20:40:34] Krenair, well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720 [20:40:55] and yeah, not having access to the email address is... a bit more complicated [20:41:13] qgil: people can still login to old-bugzilla, so there might be a way to use that as verification [20:41:38] andre__, so... qgil says you shouldn't be allowed multiple oauth accounts? [20:41:52] Does he? [20:42:02] 3MobileFrontend-Hygiene, VisualEditor-TechnicalDebt, Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#831488 (10Qgil) > Editable By VisualEditor (Project) You do it. :) [20:42:05] "I guess the solution is that the plugin shouldn't allow users to add a second Wikimedia username? One Phabricator account for one Wikimedia SUL account." [20:42:15] Krenair: there is an upstream I think [20:42:18] https://secure.phabricator.com/T6707#86615 [20:42:19] valhallasw`cloud: log in yeah (and I can see when was the last time they logged in to BZ), but not comment or such [20:42:20] e.g. letting them set a certain string as their 'real name' [20:42:24] despite a large number of users having multiple accounts [20:42:28] valhallasw`cloud, that should work, yeah [20:42:38] and upstrem has said, that error is expected but should be fixed in https://secure.phabricator.com/T2549 [20:43:34] most relevant comment https://secure.phabricator.com/T2549#25878 [20:43:43] tldr; it's complicated to fix but is intended to be fixed [20:43:57] 3Phabricator.org: 'Attaching' two mediawiki accounts results in AphrontCountQueryException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75720#831490 (10Krenair) [20:44:55] andre__: they can edit their userpage in read only mode? [20:46:05] https://old-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/editusers.cgi?action=list&matchvalue=login_name&matchstr=valhallasw%40arctus.nl&matchtype=substr&groupid=7&enabled_only=1 seems to work to check the new 'real name' [20:46:54] chasemp, there is no user "page" in BZ [20:47:02] chasemp, but email address and Real name and pw [20:47:06] ah [20:47:41] 3Phabricator: Set default Can View policy for Projects to Public - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77906 (10Qgil) 3NEW p:3Normal [20:47:58] 3Phabricator: Set default Can View policy for Projects to Public - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77906#831493 (10Qgil) [20:48:42] ok, who wrote "It is reasonable to assume that if a task is marked as security-bug, it cannot be open for public or all users." on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Security#Proposed_Updates_to_Process ? [20:49:11] probably me [20:49:32] and I guess csteipp by proxy since he agreed that to make public a security bug it is sane to require a member of teh security group [20:49:59] 3Phabricator: Set default Can View policy for Projects and Files to Public - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77906#831507 (10Qgil) [20:50:39] chasemp, I read it as suggesting that all security bugs should be private until they're resolved... [20:50:48] yes [20:50:52] or at least [20:50:58] ok, I have to disagree then [20:51:00] until someone wants them to be public is more true [20:51:11] I think public security bugs is a valid case [20:51:20] can you point me to one? [20:51:27] E.g. "Security review x extension for deployment please" [20:51:32] yes you are mistaking [20:51:35] security-bug the template format [20:51:38] and security project [20:51:45] they are synonymous [20:51:47] not [20:51:50] synonymous [20:52:17] the security enforcement mechanism is just that, a way to enforce sane settings on tasks not meant for public consumption security bugs [20:52:25] the security project and associated projects are meant to organize security work [20:52:31] security as a project can be on ANY task [20:52:37] yes, I understand that [20:52:45] it makes sense [20:52:54] then I don't understand your point, can you point me an example of what you mean? [20:53:17] "It is reasonable to assume that if a task is marked as security-bug, it cannot be open for public or all users." conflicts with this [20:53:23] no it doesn't [20:53:34] there is a drop down that has security bug [20:53:48] if that is selected there are specific policy engagements and restrictions [20:54:03] it is made for issues that are sensitive that cannot be public or open for all users [20:54:10] Yes I am very well aware that the privacy setting is separate from the security project. [20:54:25] please help me understand then what you are trying to do that you can't [20:54:32] I'm understanding the lack I think [20:54:43] in my understanding [20:55:14] This text suggests that anything against the "security" project should have the private security setting [20:55:35] no because security-bug is a setting and setting is a project [20:55:41] and that text says marked as security-bug [20:55:47] that's why I kept explaining the difference [20:55:57] (off-topic: wow, the phab daemon is lagging a bit, I'm getting emails from changes I made a couple hours ago) [20:56:11] so security-bug if a task if marked as that, it's non public [20:56:39] security project has no implicit security behavior, feel free to update the text I think [20:57:07] greg-g: blame gi11es for mass-importing from Mingle [20:57:20] I understand the difference between the security project and the security setting, please stop repeating that [20:57:22] security-bug is a literal match on the string in the extension that identifies issues filed with that setting [20:57:44] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#831540 (10Qgil) [20:57:53] Krenair: then what are you asking? [20:58:41] andre__: that's what I figured [20:58:48] which is great! [20:58:50] I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I feel like what you don't want me to say answers your question so I'm clearly confused [21:00:28] Krenair, if you think that for the "Security review x extension for deployment please" case it should be explicitly mentioned somewhere not file such request with the security checkbox enabled, please feel free to mention it on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue [21:00:42] it doesn't need to be explicitly mentioned anywhere [21:00:48] but? [21:00:54] ? [21:01:11] which problem would you like to solve and discuss? [21:01:26] that it's NOT "reasonable to assume..."? [21:01:32] Krenair, what actually happens is that private tasks are private until the security team decides that they are public [21:01:52] what is important is who decides [21:01:52] obviously. [21:02:26] Well, then you can discuss the rest with csteipp [21:02:42] Discuss what with csteipp? [21:03:09] when a security bug task is opened, if when it's fixed or before [21:03:23] * greg-g throws a flash bang into the room [21:03:52] entirely up to Sec folks. so far disclosure has happened after tarball release including a fix. [21:04:06] I don't see how any of this is relevant to what we were discussing, qgil [21:04:22] What *were* you discussing? [21:04:35] Then I'll go back to my business. :) [21:05:55] 3Phabricator: Acquire normalized and recurring WMF calendar event for Phabricator updates / maintenance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76522#831595 (10chasemp) we could have a generic next upgrade task, or make a project to mark these tasks blocked by upgrade. In practice we don't always know how far up t... [21:07:43] Krenair, what I think your point is, is that the text seemed to you like it meant any task with Security PROJECT can be public. Whereas it is meant as any task with SECURITY-BUG SETTING is explicitly intended for non-public tasks. So in theory the text means not what you were thinking, but could maybe use some clarity. [21:07:48] possible I'm way off tho [21:08:37] basically yes [21:09:21] I went and edited the page - https://www.mediawiki.org/?diff=1307233 [21:09:22] that makes some sense but I don't know how better to convey it since I wrote it and it seems clear to me, you could in theory propose alternative language? [21:09:25] k [21:10:04] hopefully it still means what you have in mind, but I know this version makes much more sense to me [21:10:12] looks good [21:10:34] ok, im glad we could clarify that [21:14:37] thanks chasemp [21:15:03] np sorry that was such a mess of a discussion, too damned many contexts for security as a word [21:15:59] 3Project-Management: Asses if WMF staff are using phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77911#831618 (10Qgil) [21:21:33] 3Phabricator.org: Simplify wording in Phabricator tasks (Manifest) emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77003#831644 (10Gryllida) [21:25:04] Multimedia Mingle migration was about 875 tasks in about 4 hours just causing a delay in the email queue, apparently? Not bad at all. [21:26:54] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#831681 (10Krenair) RT always seemed to me as an extremely internal-only tool. I'm not sure I really see the point in announcing we're moving away from it, perhaps unless a lot of the processes it handle... [21:32:43] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#831719 (10matmarex) I'm sure that no one who reads the blog has ever heard of RT, unless they needed to get some info from it, in which case I'm sure they never want to hear of it again. :) [21:35:06] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#831722 (10chasemp) We are coupling a change of process and openness with the migration. Issues migrated will be restricted to WMF-NDA but vetted and made public over time. Now Operations Requests will... [21:39:19] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#831730 (10Krenair) [21:45:43] 3Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#831802 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3Jdforrester-WMF >>! In T75892#831488, @Qgil wrote: >> Editable By VisualEditor (Project) > > You do it. :) Done: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/609/ I also me... [21:48:19] 3Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#831807 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:49:46] Hmm, PhabricatorSearchWorker: 244,382. Impressive... [21:50:05] <^d> Yeah, we've been keeping an eye on it all day [21:50:30] <^d> Huge backlog from A) all extensions imported to Diffusion on friday and B) Mingle import stuff [21:51:09] <^d> PhabricatorMTAWorker is finally down to a reasonable # again which is good. [21:51:13] <^d> It was > 8000 earlier [21:52:42] 3Project-Management, Fundraising Backlog, Multimedia: Migrate Mingle data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37#831823 (10atgo) p:5Normal>3Triage [21:52:55] <^d> chasemp: What Evan did with the daemon stuff was move all that mgmt stuff to the CLI. [21:53:01] <^d> No more scary web UI buttons. [21:53:14] yep saw that, or at least caught a glance [21:53:18] standard for their scheme [21:53:36] I'm not thrilled w/ it all as there is a separation between phab admin and shell in real life [21:53:50] but I get the point [21:53:55] it's easiest and safest from their pov [21:54:50] <^d> It'll work for us too here. I don't think we need to expose that to the UI anyway [21:55:22] things like removing repo's i wish I could easily delegate via safe UI [21:55:42] <^d> Yes. [21:55:46] <^d> That's going to get annoying. [21:56:37] there are a few ways we could it better as-is but it all needs time I guess [22:08:00] 3Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#831849 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [22:08:45] 3Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#831855 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [22:10:16] 3Code-Review, MediaWiki-Core-Team: Import all gerrit.wikimedia.org repositories with Diffusion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T616#831862 (10Chad) [22:10:28] 3Phabricator.org: Can't search for orphan tasks in "projects: none" via main advanced search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1329#831863 (10Qgil) [22:11:50] 3Phabricator: update phabricator on 10/12/2014 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77082#831877 (10Aklapper) [22:12:40] 3Phabricator: Default upload visibility should be "Public (No Login Required)" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1248#21555 (10Aklapper) [22:12:46] 3Phabricator: Should be possible to assign backgrounds to boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77927#831882 (10Jdlrobson) [22:16:07] 3Phabricator.org: Sticky filters on workboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76913#831930 (10Aklapper) [22:16:08] 3Phabricator.org: Content field should have more emphasis in advanced search form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77708#831931 (10Qgil) [22:45:37] Phab pholk, I got a strange alert trying to add blocking tasks: Unhandled Exception ("PhabricatorApplicationTransactionNoEffectException") [22:45:47] Transactions have no effect: - Edges already exist; transaction has no effect. [22:47:01] aha, it happens if you don't click the task that you entered. [22:48:19] spagewmf: still, that shouldn't give a weird error [22:49:52] valhallasw`cloud: nah "Edges already exist" obviously means "Click a task to add it to Current Blocking Tasks before Save, ya n00b". 8-) [22:50:01] ;D [22:58:15] 3Project-Management, Wikidata: Create technical-debt project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75892#832064 (10Jdlrobson) [23:19:23] 3Project-Management: Mingle migration script - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T822#832125 (10Gilles) P129 might be useful [23:25:50] 3Phabricator: Mobile friendly OAuth permission screen when registering to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1126#832177 (10csteipp) [23:33:17] 3Project-Management, Fundraising Backlog, Multimedia: Migrate Mingle data to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37#832222 (10Tgr) Gilles used P129 to migrate the cards from the multimedia project in Mingle. [23:34:17] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator should use different email addresses to notify about actions of different contributors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77681#832223 (10Aklapper) For comparison, Bugzilla sent all bugmail from the same email address but did not add a sender name. Personally I appreciate Phab's... [23:42:11] 3Phabricator.org: Add reason to Phabricator emails why you received that notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77917#832313 (10Aklapper) [23:50:38] 3Multimedia, Phabricator: Play with test Phabricator instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77837#832366 (10Gilles) [23:53:40] 3Project-Management: Asses if WMF staff are using phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77911#832384 (10JKrauska) @qgil: I would like to measure adoption by the staff as a group overall. This data can help inform future developments for phabricator as a organization-wide tool. It may be that we alr... [23:53:51] 3Engineering-Community, Project-Management: Tech Talk: Phabricator for Wikimedia projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T557#832386 (10Aklapper) [23:58:07] 3Phabricator.org: Simplify wording in Phabricator tasks (Manifest) emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77003#832425 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [23:59:03] 3Phabricator.org: Allow pasting an image in a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77020#832429 (10Aklapper)