[03:49:39] How's the RT migration going then? [03:57:03] slow :) [04:35:12] chasemp: god speed and all that [06:23:17] andre__, good morning! [06:26:50] 3RT-Migration: Document the details of the RT migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76989#931590 (10Aklapper) I've added "Known Issues" and "Data migrated" to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_RT. "Timeline" was too late now and "Improvements" don't know if someone really cares. :) Rea... [06:30:50] Good morning crew. [06:43:47] 3RT-Migration: Only first requestor of RT tickets with several requestors got migrated to Phab task author - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84828#931620 (10Qgil) 6 people, 10 tickets each... [06:47:46] 3Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#931630 (10TTO) 3NEW [07:00:25] 3RT-Migration: Update wiki documentation related to RT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76990#931641 (10Aklapper) [07:01:11] 3RT-Migration: Update wiki documentation related to RT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76990#824311 (10Aklapper) [07:10:26] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator should let you add dependencies both ways (depending and blocking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T33#492 (10Nemo_bis) What does "personal request" mean? [07:14:11] 3Phabricator.org: Add reason to Phabricator emails why you received that notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77917#931665 (10Nemo_bis) [07:17:43] 3Phabricator.org: Allow to receive email notifications but exclude web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75747#931669 (10Nemo_bis) > If you get everything in mails, you don't really care about the notification view ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/notification/ ) do you? I do. Otherwise swit... [07:20:11] 3Phabricator.org: New task comment dropdown is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238#931678 (10Nemo_bis) > I think at this point we have enough proof that, even if the behavior is not obvious, users have no problem discovering and handling the action after the very initial phase of Phabricator use.... [07:21:29] 3Phabricator.org: Equivalent to Bugzilla's "Users Watching" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T800#931680 (10Nemo_bis) What does "need discussion" mean here? [07:21:47] 3Phabricator.org: New task comment dropdown is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238#931682 (10Nemo_bis) [07:25:08] 3Phabricator.org: List bugs by number of duplicates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T888#931696 (10Nemo_bis) Very interesting collection of information (we should copy it on wiki), but yes it doesn't prove your thesis. :) It might even bring us to the opposite conclusion: if newbies report many duplicates, a... [07:25:40] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator discourages explaining non-trivial changes to a task (as actions are very modular) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78830#931697 (10Nemo_bis) [07:27:50] 3Phabricator.org: List bugs by number of duplicates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T888#931701 (10Nemo_bis) [07:49:22] 3Phabricator.org: Equivalent to Bugzilla's "Users Watching" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T800#931742 (10Aklapper) Currently it needs discussion if this request has good usecases associated. I doubt, jeremyb doesn't. :) [07:49:56] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Phabricator discourages explaining non-trivial changes to a task (as actions are very modular) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78830#931743 (10valhallasw) https://secure.phabricator.com/T4316 [07:55:43] 3Phabricator.org: RSS/Atom feeds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67#931752 (10Nemo_bis) [08:08:21] yay phab is back up :D [08:16:37] 3Phabricator.org: Can't find a way to list all duplicates of a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T887#931775 (10Nemo_bis) 5declined>3Open [08:19:54] 3Phabricator.org: In the CC field, Phabricator should link to the list of project members and watchers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78604#931798 (10Gryllida) You misunderstood. I am not suggesting to add all project watchers to CC manually. All I am suggesting is to show a "and NNN other people watchin... [08:20:14] 3Phabricator.org: Bug list by emails (like Bugzilla's "whining" for saved seaches) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825#931799 (10Nemo_bis) [08:20:45] 3Phabricator.org: Bug list by emails (like Bugzilla's "whining" for saved seaches) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825#820348 (10Nemo_bis) Does this still "need discussion" and, if yes, of what? [08:23:01] 3Phabricator.org: Replace "pronoun" in Phabricator Account Settings page by "possessive adjective" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77018#931804 (10Nemo_bis) No, "gender" is out of question, see countless discussions. [08:33:38] 3Phabricator, Continuous-Integration: Phabricator project display names use awkward capitalization and hyphenation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T911#931834 (10Nemo_bis) > @Nemo_bis: See T75892 instead. Why? I don't want scattered discussions, I want consistency. [08:37:51] 3Phabricator.org: Notification "closed TN ..., a task blocking ..." is not marked read by visiting one task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84844#931836 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW [08:51:58] 3Phabricator.org: Footer (font color vs background color) is hard to read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T628#931895 (10Nemo_bis) > if the footer is as readable as it needs to be, are you saying the footer text itself is this, and thus unnecessary? But if this is the case, then why is it even there? I'm ju... [08:54:23] 3Phabricator.org: Notification "closed TN ..., a task blocking ..." is not marked read by visiting one task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84844#931901 (10Nemo_bis) [08:55:47] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#931912 (10Nemo_bis) [08:56:07] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#789484 (10Nemo_bis) "Personal requests"? What does that mean? [09:22:59] 3Phabricator.org: "Ignore" notification level setting has no effect on web notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76098#932011 (10Qgil) See T1298#850378 [09:25:51] 3RT-Migration: Document the details of the RT migration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76989#932018 (10Qgil) a:5Qgil>3Aklapper [09:26:24] 3RT-Migration: Migrate RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38#932024 (10Qgil) [09:26:53] 3RT-Migration: Migrate RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38#932025 (10Qgil) a:3chasemp [09:32:17] 3RT-Migration: Update wiki documentation related to RT - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76990#932028 (10Qgil) @aklapper has added a banner to all the pages linked in the description above, and has done the very basic edits to warn users about the new Phabricator-based process. I think the rest belongs to th... [09:32:59] 3RT-Migration: logic to import rt data into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376#932030 (10Qgil) a:3chasemp [09:33:44] 3RT-Migration: Migrate RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38#932033 (10Qgil) [09:33:45] 3RT-Migration: logic to import rt data into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376#932031 (10Qgil) 5Open>3Resolved The import from RT to Phabricator was done successfully. Resolving. [09:35:08] 3Phabricator: The options of the Security dropdown in Phabricator need to be clear and documented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76564#932036 (10Qgil) [09:37:57] 3RT-Migration: match up RT groups for watching tasks to Phab groupings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1007#932057 (10Qgil) If I understood correctly, all the RT tasks were migrated under #operations only, right? If additional tags were used, we should document them in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabri... [09:39:10] 3RT-Migration: need to figure out how to match up existing rt perms for queues w/ a custom policy for projects in phab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T676#932059 (10Qgil) If I understood correctly, at the end all permissions were put at the same level under #wmf-nda, right? [09:42:20] 3Phabricator.org: Replace "pronoun" in Phabricator Account Settings page by "possessive adjective" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77018#932075 (10Qgil) "Adjective", then? At the same level than "Pronoun". [09:44:37] 3Phabricator.org: Send a regular email with a saved search (like Bugzilla's "whining" for saved seaches) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76825#932082 (10Qgil) [09:45:16] 3Phabricator.org: Maniphest's advanced search is not linked by maniphest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1372#932083 (10Nemo_bis) > I am not aware of other Phab users bringing this up either That requires them finding out a maniphest advanced search exists, in the first place (among other things). So I dou... [09:48:19] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator should let you add dependencies both ways (depending and blocking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T33#932093 (10Qgil) See T1298#850378 [10:10:49] 3Phabricator.org, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: On a sprint workboard, using the pencil (Edit task) to add or remove a project doesn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78828#932136 (10Christopher) [11:08:10] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Migrate @access-requests from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84861#932192 (10Qgil) 3NEW [11:09:35] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Migrate @procurement from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84862#932199 (10Qgil) 3NEW [11:09:52] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Migrate procurement@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84862#932199 (10Qgil) [11:10:13] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Migrate access-requests@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84861#932207 (10Qgil) [11:21:19] heh https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/report/burn/ [11:32:57] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#932254 (10Qgil) [11:36:36] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#932267 (10Qgil) A draft with raw text is available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Wikimedia_Operations_joins_the_Phabricator_party Your edits for correctness and accuracy are... [12:48:10] 3Project-Creators, RT-Migration: Create "ops-access-requests" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84867#932318 (10Krenair) [12:54:14] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Migrate access-requests@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84861#932332 (10mark) So migrating the //existing// content of this queue to Phabricator isn't a priority for us, but given that we'll likely receive most new requests in Phabricator anyway, we'll nee... [12:57:20] 3RT-Migration, Phabricator: Migrate access-requests@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84861#932334 (10Joe) First thing we'd need is a dedicated project in phabricator, see T84867 [13:13:51] 3RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#932357 (10Qgil) The blog is ready to be reviewed. @gpaumier, @Tbayer, this is just a heads up. As soon as @chasemp and @aklapper review it, it is good to go. [13:20:58] 3Engineering-Community, Code-Review, Team-Practices: How to prioritize code review of patches submitted by volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78768#932375 (10Qgil) >>! In T78768#852945, @Dzahn wrote: > It feels like code review is a general issue not necessarily limited to people who happen to not b... [13:29:25] 3Phabricator, Phabricator.org: Can't search an exact phrase in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75743#932384 (10Qgil) [13:31:05] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: Migrate access-requests@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84861#932388 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:34:34] 3Engineering-Community, Code-Review, Team-Practices: How to prioritize code review of patches submitted by volunteers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78768#932390 (10Krenair) > While newcomers are easy to spot by number of commits, finding volunteers among all contributors is less simple. In theory anybody... [13:37:03] 3Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#932393 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? Actually what happens is that Phabricator doesn't want that a task is closed without anybody assigned to it. If the task wasn't ass... [13:37:24] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#932396 (10Qgil) [13:37:56] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: Migrate procurement@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84862#932398 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low [13:38:22] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator inline diffs are weird - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78824#932399 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [13:43:38] 3Phabricator.org: Notification "closed TN ..., a task blocking ..." is not marked read by visiting one task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84844#932414 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Volunteer? [13:49:33] 3Phabricator.org: Ease moving tasks between two workboards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78826#932421 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Low What about this: # Go to the project page (not the board page) and list all the open tasks of the sprint that has finished. # Select all # Click Batch edit # Add the new sprin... [13:52:28] 3Project-Creators, RT-Migration: Create "ops-access-requests" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84867#932431 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [13:53:26] 3RT-Migration: access request test 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78806#932434 (10Qgil) [14:15:40] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Assign due date to task and have tasks with due dates displayed on a calendar (similar to Trello) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76094#932476 (10Qgil) Is there a calendar in Trello to see these tasks with due dates? I have been clicking to several cards in your boards... [14:30:53] 3Phabricator.org: Move 'projects' up in list of Task properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T658#11144 (10Qgil) [14:34:45] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#932535 (10Qgil) p:5Volunteer?>3Normal [14:35:36] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#826853 (10Qgil) >>! In https://secure.phabricator.com/T6183#77153, epriestley wrote: > The concern here is users watching or subscribing to projects (like "Security") which they may have permission to see, but not to join... [14:50:40] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: subtasks are not clearly visualized on tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T867#932577 (10Qgil) Sounds like {T1141}, then. Are you ok with merging? [14:51:32] 3Phabricator.org: White area of tasks in panels should be clickable to go to task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T869#932583 (10Qgil) [14:52:16] 3Phabricator.org: White area of tasks in panels should be clickable to go to task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T869#14706 (10Qgil) p:5Low>3Volunteer? [14:58:57] 3Phabricator.org: attributes in a task should be modifiable in-line rather than having to go to an edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T870#932616 (10Qgil) As I understand this request, users could click on the title of any field in a task page, and then such field would become editable, seamlessly. N... [15:01:45] 3Phabricator.org: Equivalent to Bugzilla's "Users Watching" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T800#932627 (10Qgil) Well, this is something that can be decided by whoever volunteers to submit this task upstream. My opinion posted above is still the same, but... good luck! :) [15:02:45] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator discourages explaining non-trivial changes to a task (as actions are very modular) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78830#932630 (10Qgil) [15:03:36] 3Phabricator.org: Can't find a way to list all duplicates of a task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T887#932633 (10Qgil) a:5Qgil>3None [15:43:50] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#932745 (10matmarex) I habitually did that on Bugzilla too, usually just finding the person who submitted the patch last, but Phabricator makes filling in this data a lot... [16:43:04] 3Phabricator.org: In the CC field, Phabricator should link to the list of project members and watchers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78604#932942 (10Qgil) Project members and watchers are different concepts. Relating these users with a CC field can be misleading. If the user wants to have an idea about w... [16:47:11] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#932980 (10Qgil) [16:49:02] 3Phabricator.org: Let non-members watch projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77228#826853 (10Qgil) Upstream has set a blocking task: [[ https://secure.phabricator.com/T4411 | Adding a CC to a Maniphest Task should give View rights for that user ]] I have mirrored the dependency here, although I'm not e... [16:51:40] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#933001 (10RobLa-WMF) One way to make this less awkward is to have the "Action"->"Change Status" dropdown trigger the display of the "Assign To" field when the current as... [16:57:35] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#933022 (10matmarex) That would be neat! [16:58:00] andre__, your review is welcome, especially when it comes to task numbers: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Wikimedia_Operations_joins_the_Phabricator_party [17:04:09] I'll take a look very soon. Still feeling a bit tired. :P [17:05:48] (I still get bombed with new Phab mail from rtimport, 15h after. impressive) [17:18:58] 3RT-Migration, Project-Creators, Ops-Access-Requests: Create "ops-access-requests" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84867#933137 (10Qgil) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Qgil Project created: #Ops-Access-Requests Since this is part of the RT-Migration, it was created before waiting for a description, but p... [17:19:22] 3Phabricator, RT-Migration: Migrate access-requests@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84861#933145 (10Qgil) [17:24:20] 3Wikibugs: Wikibugs should ignore the Spam-Spam project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84893#933179 (10bd808) 3NEW [17:27:32] 3Phabricator.org: Diff adds artificial newlines - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239#933193 (10Qgil) I can't find the original diff. Maybe it was lost during the migration from fab. Could you provide another example, please? [17:31:00] 3Phabricator.org: Simplify instructions to reply included in emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77003#933221 (10Qgil) [17:34:14] 3Phabricator.org: Simplify instructions to reply included in emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77003#933248 (10Qgil) It seems that we can skip the email instructions altogether by configuring https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/config/edit/metamta.reply.show-hints/ I could not find any way to change the... [17:36:52] 3Phabricator.org: Cursor should not exit a field after autocompletion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75844#933261 (10Qgil) [17:37:16] 3Phabricator.org: Cursor should not exit a field after autocompletion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75844#783559 (10Qgil) Maybe we should get rid of that link in the first place. [17:37:59] 3Phabricator.org: "Create New Project" shown on /task/create/ though not allowed to create projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T631#933267 (10Qgil) [17:38:25] 3Phabricator.org: "Create New Project" shown on /task/create/ though not allowed to create projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T631#10349 (10Qgil) One option is to get rid of the link altogether: T78245 [18:12:11] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#933373 (10Dereckson) Hypothesis: the person who closes a task as invalid or stalled takes the responsibility of this status, and so is the correct assignee of the task. [18:13:03] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#933375 (10chasemp) >>! In T84833#933373, @Dereckson wrote: > Hypothesis: the person who closes a task as invalid or stalled takes the responsibility of this status, and... [18:38:46] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Multiple workboards per project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78557#933483 (10Jdlrobson) @Qgil this really is a blocker for mobile web using Phabricator as a product management tool. We have iteration boards for planning purposes and we need to keep them for historic... [18:45:24] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#933513 (10RobLa-WMF) It would seem, at a minimum, that any action taken like this should show up in the preview area, per TTO's original report. That would open up anot... [18:47:50] Is there a task to add the rest of us NDA holders to #WMF-NDA? Quite a lot of people have effectively lost access we had in RT. [18:47:55] But I can't find it. [18:48:09] Oh, ignore me, it's been done. [18:48:10] Sorry! [18:51:24] worked on [18:51:40] list of folks is P167 [19:03:04] andre__: hehe. you can only see that past if you are already added to the project. :) [19:03:08] *paste [19:03:13] yes [19:03:21] But I do remember your face on that list, boy! [19:03:54] screaming unicorns with mowhawks stand out the crowd [19:05:35] heh! [19:19:22] 3Wikimedia-Blog, RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#933604 (10Fabrice_Florin) [19:27:46] 3Wikimedia-Blog, RT-Migration: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#933640 (10Aklapper) I sent my comments to Quim via email [19:29:00] bd808|LUNCH, andre__: wasn't that list of rt users public at some point? [19:29:57] ah, there is one, it's still public [19:31:34] dunno [19:32:39] 3RT-Migration: access request test 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78806#933649 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Invalid a:3chasemp [19:35:30] 3ops-requests, RT-Migration: match up RT groups for watching tasks to Phab groupings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1007#933657 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Resolved a:3chasemp The following were created or used: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/ops-ulsfo https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/ops-codfw h... [19:36:29] 3RT-Migration: need to figure out how to match up existing rt perms for queues w/ a custom policy for projects in phab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T676#933665 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Resolved a:3chasemp Yes we decided that since procurement etc were excluded folding it all into one WMF-NDA group was the... [19:36:39] Krenair: where is the public one? [19:38:40] chasemp, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P51 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P52 [19:39:06] ok I thikn that's no biggie, i was worried it was full on emails [19:39:12] It seems out of date though. [19:39:38] Sure Terry isn't still able to access it and do whatever it is managers do on RT? [19:40:09] when that was pulled oct 30th pretty sure it was correct even if it wasn't 'right' :) but yeah moot now all the way around [19:41:15] He left early in October, chasemp [19:41:23] so yeah, probably not 'right' :) [19:42:11] a disadvtangage of the multiple ticket systems was cleanup getting forgotten I'm sure [19:43:19] Heh, I is on LWN: http://lwn.net/Articles/626866/ (blogpost about BZ to Phab migration) but no comments yet there [19:56:46] 3Phabricator.org: In the CC field, Phabricator should link to the list of project members and watchers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78604#933703 (10Gryllida) > Project members and watchers are different concepts. I didn't even mention members. I only mentioned watchers, who //are// listed at the bottom... [20:16:33] <^d> andre__: I've started poking T75743 but it's probably not quite as easy as T679. [20:16:46] <^d> (T679 has a basically-done patch upstream that's going through review rounds) [20:27:33] <^d> Actually, I lied. T75743 is easy. [20:34:01] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#933839 (10matmarex) > Hypothesis: the person who closes a task as invalid or stalled takes the responsibility of this status, and so is the correct assignee of the task.... [20:48:47] 3Wikibugs: Wikibugs should ignore the Spam-Spam project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84893#933897 (10Legoktm) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Legoktm [12:47:58] !log tools.wikibugs Updated channels.yaml to: 9ad8e090c8fb06d487b89255562483f08cf354e3 Send Spam-* to /dev/null [20:50:39] Does anybody know what "flag for later" does? I can't find a maniphest manual to explain it [20:50:55] flags are like personal bookmarks [20:51:10] I tend to flag things green that I like to come back to and flag red that is oh crap [20:51:15] and then no cc spam and nice grouping [20:51:29] 3Phabricator: Enable Conpherence for all Phabricator users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78238#933902 (10chasemp) What's the thought here? [20:51:33] where do they show up in the ui other than on the ticket? [20:51:39] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/flag/ [20:51:56] show your flags by color and type of object etc [20:52:01] ah. yet another app [20:52:01] for non cc object tracking [20:52:14] turtles all the day down bd808 [20:52:22] way down even [20:53:08] it's a cool tool, but it seems the way to learn how to use it is to mona about not knowing how to do something [20:53:11] *moan [20:53:56] I sent through https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/applications/ [20:54:06] and kind of poked at all the installed ones at the beginning [21:10:44] 3Phabricator.org: attributes in a task should be modifiable in-line rather than having to go to an edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T870#933937 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) On your flickr photo pages, and on your facebook "about" section almost all fields are editable this way, If I remember correctly thi... [21:17:08] 3Wikibugs: Team (and other non-project) tags should be available for filtering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1316#933945 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:17:17] 3Wikibugs: Team (and other non-project) tags should be available for filtering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1316#23049 (10Jdforrester-WMF) VE now works, thanks. [21:17:52] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Assign due date to task and have tasks with due dates displayed on a calendar (similar to Trello) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76094#933947 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) {F22478} The calendar itself is a "powerup" in trello, e.g. an optional feature you must turn on, howeve... [21:20:12] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: subtasks are not clearly visualized on tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T867#933951 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) Similar but not the same, in other systems, subtasks are actually a completely different object type than tasks, for simplicity sake though, I think these coul... [21:25:20] 3Phabricator: Searching for mobile in projects brings up a bad set of matches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84924#933977 (10Jdlrobson) 3NEW [21:31:50] 3RT-Migration, Wikimedia-Blog: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#933993 (10Qgil) ... and changes made. Thank you! [21:32:32] chasemp, congratulations! And thank you for another well executed migration. [21:32:48] You said 8h, and you made it so [21:33:00] Do you know how many tasks were migrated? [21:41:42] 3Phabricator.org, Project-Management: Multiple workboards per project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78557#934030 (10Qgil) You want "multiple workboards per project" and Robla wants "sub-workboards". Aren't your requests more or less equivalent? This is why I merged them in {T78225}. If this is correct,... [21:54:50] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: Multiple workboards per project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78557#934071 (10Jdlrobson) Ahh I missed the duplicate ticket.. still getting used to Phabricator :) Robla's request seems to be what we need. [21:56:36] 3Phabricator: Searching for mobile in projects brings up a bad set of matches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84924#934078 (10Qgil) [21:56:39] 3Phabricator.org: Exact matches should always win when suggesting/auto-completing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76732#934079 (10Qgil) [21:56:49] 3Phabricator.org: Searching for mobile in projects brings up a bad set of matches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84924#933977 (10Qgil) [21:59:05] 3Phabricator.org: Exact matches should always win when suggesting/auto-completing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76732#934084 (10Qgil) @Jdlrobson, when this task is fixed (hopefully soon), you can expect the same results that you get typing "mobile" in the header search field. At least for me these are #... [22:00:14] 3Phabricator.org: Ability to designate sub-workboards in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78225#934093 (10Jdlrobson) What I would like is to go to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/ and clicking on Workboard(s) takes me to a list of workboards associated with the project. We are currentl... [22:00:36] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved", Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#934094 (10Tgr) This causes assignee drift when people close and reopen a task. Some sort of "automatically assigned" flag, which would make the assignment auto-clear on... [22:09:28] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: subtasks are not clearly visualized on tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T867#934116 (10DarTar) A Trello-like checklist feature would do the job for us, I'm fine with merging, thanks for the ping. [22:55:58] qgil: I sent you the email I sent ops last night [22:56:05] has first and last rt issues etc [22:57:29] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Can't search an exact phrase in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75743#934237 (10Chad) a:3Chad [23:00:49] 3Project-Management, Phabricator.org: subtasks are not clearly visualized on tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T867#934244 (10Qgil) [23:00:50] 3Phabricator.org, § Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Add Acceptance Criteria/Checklist feature to Phabricator tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1141#934245 (10Qgil) [23:10:50] chasemp, thank you [23:16:10] 3RT-Migration, Wikimedia-Blog: Blog post announcing the RT migration to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987#934287 (10Qgil) @gpaumier, @Tbayer, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Wikimedia_Operations_joins_the_Phabricator_party is ready to be reviewed. [23:21:08] If anybody wants to help reviewing the blog post about the RT migration, edits are welcome at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Wikimedia_Operations_joins_the_Phabricator_party -- comments at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76987 [23:21:57] 3 cheers for chasemp [23:22:24] whoops, that was a bit late (I was scrolled way back in time and didn't notice, still mean it though) [23:23:15] why was the OIT entry removed? [23:23:37] are they staying in RT? [23:24:10] <^d> They don't use RT. [23:24:13] <^d> Tried it, didn't last. [23:24:22] they use zendesk, afaik [23:27:19] greg-g: Do you have project creation rights on phab? I'd like to create a tag (much like tag zuul) for zuul-cloner. [23:28:56] <^d> Should have a task filed either way for tracking. [23:28:57] <^d> :) [23:29:19] yeah, do that so there's a record and subscribe me [23:32:23] 3Phabricator, Continuous-Integration: Create tag for zuul-cloner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84945#934331 (10Krinkle) 3NEW a:3greg [23:32:48] It's very annoying that any mentioned projects get associated. [23:32:54] And there's no way to do an action without also subscribing [23:33:10] (although the latter can be cirvumvented via the Edit Task page)