[00:01:07] 3Phabricator.org: Redirect back to task after log in to phabricator (using the link in the right top corner) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76202#792985 (10Qgil) This task has been resolved upstream: https://secure.phabricator.com/T6870 I don't know whether this fix will be available with {T78243} or whet... [00:07:18] 3Phabricator.org: Task says "Restricted Mailing List" instead of "wikibugs-l" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76988#964825 (10Qgil) https://secure.phabricator.com/T6869 has been fixed upstream, but I don't know whether this fix will make it to {T78243} or whether we have already taken the upstream snapshot... [00:30:15] 3Phabricator.org: no obvious way to create task templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1043#964863 (10Quiddity) >>! In T1043#964650, @chasemp wrote: >>>! In T1043#964648, @Quiddity wrote: >> * &assigned_to=[NAME] >> * &cc=[NAME] > > I think these are PHID which you would have to pre-fetch from the api.... [00:41:22] 3Phabricator: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#964876 (10gpaumier) @Qgil: I'm planning to meet next week with @Eloquence and @Tbayer to discuss how to handle tech reporting going forward. Should we (you and I, maybe @Robla) meet befor... [01:09:23] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#964974 (10Dzahn) I'm not aware having a dump. How large is it? [01:20:05] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#965001 (10Dzahn) >>! In T85140#947014, @JohnLewis wrote: > Stored locally. I've not had chance to speak to Daniel yet about what the next steps are with the idea. No need to wait for me or IRC, let's just speak via... [01:24:41] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965003 (10chasemp) a:5chasemp>3None [02:22:13] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Needs Volunteer" Priority field value in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617#965077 (10jayvdb) 'Wishlist' is better than 'Needs Volunteer', but it can (and will) be interpreted as an orthogonal concept. I think it is workable, but if it is used (especially by WMF mana... [02:27:31] 3Wikimedia-Git-or-Gerrit, Code-Review, operations: Chrome warns about insecure certificate on gerrit.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76562#965081 (10Krinkle) >>! In T76562#939750, @Dzahn wrote: >>>! In T76562#846225, @Seb35 wrote: >> The certificate *.wikimedia.org used on phabricator.wikimedi... [05:03:13] 3Phabricator: There should not be a "View Wiki" link on project pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86290#965241 (10Mattflaschen) 3NEW [05:41:07] 3Phabricator: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#965269 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T765#963905, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: > https://secure.phabricator.com/T6559 is now resolved – does this change anything? Quim's link mentions some tech... [05:41:26] 3Phabricator: Following Notification from "bell" menu does not clear notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75791#965275 (10Mattflaschen) [05:41:27] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Phabricator boards should live update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129#965274 (10Mattflaschen) [05:41:31] 3Phabricator: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#965273 (10Mattflaschen) 5stalled>3Open [07:24:05] 3Phabricator.org: Status of a task (Open/Resolved/Declined/…) not easy to see when commenting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78836#965309 (10matmarex) That'd make me sad, but I'll live. [07:26:42] 3Phabricator.org: Status of a task (Open/Resolved/Declined/…) not easy to see when commenting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78836#965310 (10matmarex) Ooh, they also colored the inconspicuous text in header. That's an improvement. :) [07:32:12] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965311 (10valhallasw) Maybe we can change the wording to 'Claim and change status'? [07:40:46] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965313 (10valhallasw) 3NEW [07:43:07] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Needs Volunteer" Priority field value in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617#965319 (10valhallasw) [07:45:18] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965320 (10valhallasw) [07:48:04] 3Phabricator.org, Phabricator: Get rid of "Export to Excel" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257#965321 (10valhallasw) [07:50:05] huh, I thought there were more. [07:52:35] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965323 (10valhallasw) [07:52:52] 3Phabricator: Change "Real Name" string for "Also Known As" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T798#965325 (10valhallasw) [07:53:06] 3Phabricator: Decide on "Needs Volunteer" Priority field value in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78617#965326 (10Qgil) Again, can we all agree on the usefulness of keeping one more priority level below "Low"? I would really miss it if it would be removed. As for the label for "Low-1", "None" i... [07:53:22] 3Phabricator.org: Task creation by email is unclear - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T865#965327 (10valhallasw) [07:55:34] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965328 (10valhallasw) [07:55:37] 3Phabricator.org: "View Wiki" link in project pages, leading to nowhere - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78437#965330 (10Qgil) [07:55:55] sorry for the bugspam ;-) [07:56:40] oh, crap. I did the dependencies the wrong way around, didn't I? :/ [08:00:57] 3Phabricator: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#965336 (10Qgil) @gpaumier I'm happy to pitch you the idea in a meeting. :) [12:35:50] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965557 (10Qgil) I might be missing something, but we are already using localization to fix i.e. {T798}, and I don't see how this would be the solution for tasks like T84833, where new UI elements need to be created. [12:39:18] 3Phabricator.org: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965565 (10Qgil) About 'Claim and change status', most complex tools have little surprises that you learn by doing a first time, but then you don... [12:40:40] 3Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965568 (10Qgil) [12:41:34] 3Phabricator.org: Status of a task (Open/Resolved/Declined/…) not easy to see when commenting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78836#965571 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil [12:49:19] 3Phabricator.org: no obvious way to create task templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1043#965586 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil Thank you @quiddity for improving the documentation. Resolving. [12:55:19] 3Phabricator.org: getting PhabricatorDataNotAttachedException error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85950#965596 (10Qgil) p:5High>3Normal [13:03:41] 3Engineering-Community, Code-Review: Plan to migrate code review from Gerrit to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18#965615 (10Qgil) Has anybody checked Releeph? (pull requests, protoype) Could this be relevant in our plans? https://secure.phabricator.com/releeph/ https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/rel... [13:09:55] 3Phabricator.org, WMF-Legal, Legalpad: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#965619 (10Qgil) What is the use case for this? #wmf-legal will have edit rights to the document and this is also the team that needs to check whethe... [13:13:52] 3Phabricator.org: Shortcut keys for description fields - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T816#13712 (10Qgil) "Shortcut keys for description fields" is too vague. I think we will have a better chance if specific shortcuts are requested, like in https://secure.phabricator.com/T704 [13:48:00] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965641 (10valhallasw) I got the blockers the wrong way around -- I meant this as tracking task for 'tasks that should be resolved / have been resolved by using a local translation'. [13:48:25] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator shows avatars consistently against user names, which some users may dislike - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65#965642 (10Umherirrender) Just doing this by local solution is not nice, when there is no (known) way to apply it to a browser, like on IE11. Having a user.css page in... [13:53:59] 3Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965644 (10valhallasw) I disagree. As you pointed out in T84833#964319, closing a task does not inherently mean you assign it to yourself, as this doe... [13:59:08] 3Engineering-Community, Code-Review: Plan to migrate code review from Gerrit to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18#965647 (10chasemp) Releeph seems to be a legacy / solely FB thing that mostly we were advised to pretend doesn't exist. [14:07:30] 3Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#965653 (10matmarex) Hmph. I'm going to write that patch anyway. [15:38:43] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965801 (10Aklapper) What is the usecase for a tracking bug for "tasks that have been resolved by using a local translation"? (And who plans to keep its list of dependency tasks up to date and complete?) [15:39:53] 3Phabricator.org: Redirect back to task after log in to phabricator (using the link in the right top corner) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76202#965802 (10chasemp) >>! In T76202#964786, @Qgil wrote: > This task has been resolved upstream: https://secure.phabricator.com/T6870 > > I don't know whether this... [15:49:34] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#965818 (10valhallasw) The use case is a) linking related bugs together without having to copy-paste all bugs to all other bugs, and b) allowing one to figure out how the issue was tackled in other cases. [16:21:52] andre__: but I honestly don't care that much. I thought it would be useful to group them together, maybe helping to drag them out of the mud a bit. Note that T257 hasn't actually been resolved. [16:23:35] valhallasw`cloud, sorry if I maybe played the bad cop, I just want to avoid categorizing for the sake of categorizing. So if there's a good reason for such a tracking task I'm not against or so :) [17:23:52] 3Phabricator: Add "Multimedia" project to every task in Multimedia components - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86318#966044 (10MarkTraceur) 3NEW a:3Aklapper [17:44:41] 3Phabricator: Herald rule to add "Multimedia" project to every task in Multimedia components - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86318#966106 (10Aklapper) [17:54:09] 3Legalpad, WMF-Legal, Phabricator.org: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#966183 (10Qgil) p:5Volunteer?>3Low [17:57:25] 3Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#966187 (10Legoktm) [18:05:33] 3Phabricator.org: Shortcut keys for description fields text formatting are needed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T816#966215 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [18:37:37] 3Phabricator: Set up dumping Phabricator's project taxonomy to a wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85096#966280 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3stalled @scfc, does this provide what you need? [18:47:54] 3Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#966321 (10valhallasw) https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/21dca29c5f2929064cfe969cfd4bd417df5621bf/src/applications/maniphest/controller/Ma... [18:50:50] 3Phabricator: When you close an unassigned task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#966325 (10valhallasw) [19:46:07] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#966501 (10JohnLewis) >>! In T85140#965001, @Dzahn wrote: >>>! In T85140#947014, @JohnLewis wrote: >> Stored locally. I've not had chance to speak to Daniel yet about what the next steps are with the idea. > > No ne... [19:47:46] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#966504 (10Dzahn) I don't know either. The options seem to be: - just upload them manually once, saying it's not worth any additonal effort since it's a one-time thing - make a .deb that does nothing but install the... [19:50:31] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#966515 (10JohnLewis) >>! In T85140#966504, @Dzahn wrote: > I don't know either. The options seem to be: > > - just upload them manually once, saying it's not worth any additonal effort since it's a one-time thing P... [19:50:36] 3Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#966516 (10mmodell) why not use tags for tracking related bugs? [20:06:22] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966583 (10matmarex) >>! In T78236#945580, @MZMcBride wrote: > I'd imagine this is a known issue, but I haven't dug up a Phabricator.org task yet. Surprisingly, I actuall... [20:22:06] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#966666 (10atgo) [20:22:23] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#13961 (10atgo) [20:22:59] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#966669 (10atgo) 5Open>3Resolved @qgil Closing because we're in. Still working out the bumps, but it'll be that way for a while :) [20:23:01] 3Phabricator: Goal: The majority of WMF developer teams and sprints have moved to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T825#966671 (10atgo) [20:30:22] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966688 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) >>! In T78236#966583, @matmarex wrote: >>>! In T78236#945580, @MZMcBride wrote: >> I'd imagine this is a known issue, but I haven't dug up a P... [20:39:04] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Create project for Fundraising - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T682#966706 (10atgo) @aklapper I sort of want to keep that project for the community to submit issues that we can triage into our workflow, but will try to work through the tasks open over there coming up. [20:54:07] 3operations, Phabricator: Create #site-incident tag and use it for incident reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85889#966759 (10greg) meta-comment: I want to make sure #Ops is on board with any change given the incident report process came out of their group explicitly. So, let's bring this up in one of... [21:09:30] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966915 (10Krenair) I think this matters for all instances, we just happen to be the ones that experience it more often due to relatively high traffic. [21:10:21] 3§ Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Release-Engineering, Phabricator: Create a continuous integration plan for Wikimedia Phabricator patches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85123#966924 (10mmodell) @christopher: We will deploy this as soon as chase has the time to do so. You don't need to make the change to pu... [21:15:17] 3Phabricator: Existing Phabricator user waiting 1 month for bugzilla activity to be assigned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85137#966940 (10Platonides) Seems fixed. The account indeed had the email written in lowercase (fetched from LDAP?). As it doesn't allow to directly add it with a different case («Ano... [21:15:42] 3Phabricator: Existing Phabricator user waiting 1 month for bugzilla activity to be assigned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85137#966941 (10Platonides) 5stalled>3Resolved [21:26:25] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966990 (10Nemo_bis) Yes, we're the only known very active user of maniphest. [21:33:02] it's nice how i can edit my own comment and fix typos [21:33:59] wasn't possible in the old systems [21:34:24] Yeah, Gerrit is so much better than our previous CVS web interface! [21:34:32] * andre__ runs [21:41:33] no, i really mean phab [21:46:24] 3WMF-Legal, Phabricator.org, Legalpad: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#967057 (10Jalexander) >>! In T374#965619, @Qgil wrote: > What is the use case for this? #wmf-legal will have edit rights to the document and this is... [21:47:34] 3Fundraising-Backlog, Phabricator: Create project for Fundraising - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T682#967059 (10Qgil) @atgo, please consider having a single project where all tasks land, and then create sprint projects where you cherry-pick the tasks for the next weeks. Having to monitor one space than havi... [21:47:53] 3Phabricator: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#967060 (10mmodell) I've already tagged a release that should be getting deployed next week, however, I might be able to sneak this in. [21:50:02] 3Multimedia, Wikibugs: Wikibugs not reporting tasks that are only in #multimedia in the multimedia IRC channel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77947#967061 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Resolved [21:51:26] 3Wikibugs: Add 'team' (purple) to output on IRC - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1209#967064 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Resolved a:3valhallasw I think, in the current usage of 'team' projects, it's good to always list them, even if more specific projects are available. [21:53:24] 3WMF-Legal, Phabricator.org, Legalpad: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#967070 (10Qgil) OTRS admins and stewards sound like people you can trust. Why not giving them edit rights, just telling them the obvious thing that... [21:55:02] 3Phabricator: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#967071 (10Qgil) @mmodell {T1286} is still a blocker. I would not rush. [22:08:28] 3Phabricator: Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434#967125 (10Qgil) [22:18:44] 3Phabricator, operations: Create #site-incident tag and use it for incident reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85889#967149 (10GWicke) @greg: Sounds good to me. [22:18:48] 3Phabricator, operations: Migrate procurement@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84862#967150 (10Qgil) fwiw https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/ops-access-requests/ says: > procurement@ queues is currently still handled in RT. > That project will be activated once that has been migr... [22:20:10] 3Phabricator: Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434#967152 (10Qgil) {T831} is resolved! Now the total is 67% and Mingle is at 92% (pending the completion of the Language Engineering migration only). For what is worth, [[ https://phabrica... [22:23:45] 3Phabricator.org: Renaming Phabricator project breaks links (doesn't create redirects) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T910#967160 (10Qgil) Mentioned at https://secure.phabricator.com/T6909 [22:32:43] 3Phabricator: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#967173 (10GWicke) I'm also curious about the overlap between Scrum of Scrums & the content of the monthly reports. Typically the weekly Scrum of Scrum updates have a mix of team dependenc... [22:41:50] 3Phabricator: When you close an unassigned task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#967235 (10valhallasw) After discussing with @matmarex on IRC, some notes for a possible patch to change the behavior to 'show assign to f... [22:53:59] 3Phabricator.org: Should be easy to create new cards on a workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86076#967289 (10Jdlrobson) Mm. Do we have a tracking bug for UX issues like this we hit? I somehow missed that. I guess the issue I have is I tend to work with long lists of tasks and am trying to create task... [23:45:37] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#967543 (10Dzahn) prepared the Apache/varnish/DNS config so we now have http://static-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and an empty dir to put the files in