[07:24:26] 6Phabricator: When quick-editing a task while commenting, and choosing "Change Status" action, "Status" dropdown should default to "Resolved" and not "Declined" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96534#1219999 (10Qgil) [07:24:28] 6Phabricator: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1220000 (10Qgil) [07:38:43] 6Project-Creators, 10Phabricator-Upstream: Ability to associate workboards with parent tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85564#1220071 (10Qgil) 5Open>3declined a:3Qgil [08:10:13] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 5Patch-For-Review: In the footer, make "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License" and "GNU General Public License" links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94946#1220110 (10Qgil) [08:48:23] 6Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on 2015-04-22 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89830#1220167 (10Christopher) @mmoddell Sounds fine. If possible, it may be worthwhile to take on T94171 if there is time. Will the symlink have to updated if the repo name changes? [09:10:01] 6Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on 2015-04-22 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89830#1220186 (10Aklapper) [09:10:04] 6Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on YYYY-MM-DD - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96442#1220187 (10Aklapper) [09:22:33] 6Phabricator: Next Phabricator upgrade on 2015-02-18 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86772#1220214 (10Aklapper) [09:46:17] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: Delete #Wikimedia-Search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96551#1220245 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW [10:18:08] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: Delete #Wikimedia-Search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96551#1220302 (10Aklapper) Creation ticket for Wikimedia-Search was {T89556} hence CC'ing its subscribers here and asking for input. Search-Team was created in {T94493}. [10:18:28] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: Delete #Wikimedia-Search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96551#1220307 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Normal [10:22:59] 6Engineering-Community, 6Community-Liaison, 3ECT-April-2015: Expand Friendly Space Policy to all Wikimedia online spaces - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87773#1220316 (10Qgil) >>! In T87773#1217693, @MZMcBride wrote: > My experience on the English Wikipedia is that cultural differences in what's conside... [10:23:15] 6Project-Creators: Create "German-community-wishlist" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96366#1220319 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) @krenair exactly, the first point would pretty much cover it. That's also what the provided link is about. WMDE is actively working on tasks from that list but it is just hard to main... [10:40:14] 6Project-Creators: Create "WikidataQualityExternalValidation" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96141#1220338 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) For easy searching the name should better be Wikidata-Quality-External-Validation. [11:35:58] 6Project-Creators: Create "WikidataQualityConstraints" project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96139#1220402 (10Tamslo) For easy searching the name should better be Wikidata-Quality-Constraints. (Thanks @Tobi_WMDE_SW) [11:49:17] 6Engineering-Community, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, 3Outreachy-Round-10: Connect Wikimedia groups, Google Developer Groups, and computer science university departments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T925#1220408 (10Tgr) [11:49:18] 6Engineering-Community: Promote GSoC and FOSS OPW in Hungary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89076#1220405 (10Tgr) 5Open>3declined None :( I put the contact list I collected to P535, might save a few hours next year. [13:16:16] 6Engineering-Community, 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015, 3ECT-April-2015: Engage with established technical communities at the Wikimedia Hackathon 2015 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76325#1220480 (10Qgil) @Alexcella, @rfarrand, I have started a sheet "Invited" in the Hackathon Attendees spreadsheet, in ord... [13:44:48] 6Project-Creators, 10Phabricator-Upstream, 15User-Bd808-Test: Per-user projects for personal work in progress tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#1220514 (10Tobi_WMDE_SW) @Aklapper count me as interested as well.. ;) [13:44:50] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1220515 (10scfc) 3NEW [13:56:19] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1220552 (10valhallasw) I think the issue is that you're not in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wmf-nda/ , which you should be as you (I assume ;-)) have signed the NDA. [14:20:49] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1220613 (10scfc) 5Open>3stalled I filed T96558 for the NDA group and once that is resolved, I will check whether this was the cause. [14:21:01] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1220617 (10scfc) [14:47:56] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: Delete #Wikimedia-Search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96551#1220709 (10Deskana) Feel free to delete the project if it makes you feel better. That said, we'll be creating new projects soon though, as search-related work is going to start ramping up. [14:58:58] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: Delete #Wikimedia-Search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96551#1220736 (10Jdouglas) We've been using the Search-Team board to coordinate the various search-related work, including Wikidata Query Service, CirrusSearch, Elastic, etc. This makes things simple to manage, sinc... [15:00:37] twentyafterfour: easier to maintain is probably best [15:00:37] and maye we can help or facilitate upstream review [15:27:37] 6Project-Creators, 6CA-team: New Project: Privacy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92889#1220770 (10PerfektesChaos) I strongly support a new tag (yellow) for #privacy. Some privacy issues are by nature security questions. However, a lot of privacy related stuff is not affected by security (which ends up s... [15:56:37] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: Delete #Wikimedia-Search - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96551#1220817 (10greg) I suggest waiting at least a couple days before making any changes in this area (eg: team projects especially search ones). Actually, I more than suggest but not quite decree :) [16:00:39] 6Phabricator, 7Puppet: Initialize phd working directory for phd services - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96567#1220826 (10Negative24) 3NEW a:3Negative24 [16:01:07] 6Phabricator: Configure puppet to upgrade storage for Phabricator phd service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95062#1220835 (10Negative24) [16:01:17] 6Phabricator: Configure puppet to upgrade storage for Phabricator phd service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95062#1220838 (10Negative24) 5Open>3stalled [16:03:36] 6Phabricator: Configure puppet to upgrade storage for Phabricator phd service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95062#1220841 (10Negative24) a:5Negative24>3None Difficulties with Puppet's inability to reliably run a command only once makes this task difficult and outside my knowledge of Puppet. [17:50:02] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1221261 (10greg) {F100025} [17:51:20] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1221274 (10chasemp) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/204862/1 [17:51:41] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1221281 (10RobH) This is now on the ops agenda for approval during our meeting. [18:09:37] 6Phabricator: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1221411 (10matmarex) > To give some background we generate the json file via puppet and so a custom ruby function. I bet that function is sorting these by key which means this is proba... [18:17:44] 6Phabricator: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1221432 (10mmodell) >>! In T548#1221411, @matmarex wrote: > Ruby hashes, unlike PHP associative arrays, do not guarantee keeping the ordering. And JSON (and YAML) objects specifically... [18:47:12] 6Phabricator: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1221723 (10dduvall) >>! In T548#1221411, @matmarex wrote: > Ruby hashes, unlike PHP associative arrays, do not guarantee keeping the ordering. And JSON (and YAML) objects specifically... [18:53:50] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1221739 (10RobH) The meeting result is approved, but with some conditionals: As these guys are taking over the maintaining of... [18:54:09] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1221740 (10RobH) ie: no root until they also get paged, so dont merge until both are ready. [19:00:29] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1221789 (10Qgil) If you are not in #WMF-NDA, then not accessing to T96548 is a feature, not a bug. Should we close this task? [19:18:02] 6Project-Creators, 10Phabricator-Upstream, 15User-Bd808-Test: Per-user projects for personal work in progress tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T555#1221960 (10Negative24) +me but I don't think that's what this task is for. [19:45:29] 6Phabricator, 5Patch-For-Review: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1222093 (10matmarex) >>! In T548#1221432, @mmodell wrote: > How can it be considered upstream bug exactly? Sounds like an upstream feature request to support order... [19:50:15] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1222122 (10Legoktm) 5stalled>3Resolved a:3Legoktm I manually added scfc to T96548. [19:51:36] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1222138 (10scfc) Indeed it would be working as designed. But then why did I get a notification for a task I wasn't supposed to be able to read? AFAIK, Phabricator works with the mindset that tasks you don't have access to don't exist f... [19:57:10] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222180 (10mmodell) I don't have a problem with getting paged really. How does that work? I just give you guys a phone number?... [20:02:30] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222203 (10greg) >>! In T96425#1222180, @mmodell wrote: > Is there an alternative to SMS because I'm a lot more likely to wake... [20:04:08] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222208 (10mmodell) >>! In T96425#1222203, @greg wrote: > Way to wade right into a religious war within Ops, there ;) I seem... [20:11:34] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1222223 (10Aklapper) valhallasw CC'ed scfc on that task, so this looks like an example of {T94565}. [20:11:53] 6Phabricator, 6Release-Engineering: Adding users to CC on Phabricator security tasks doesn't add them to the view/edit policy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94565#1166813 (10Aklapper) [20:11:55] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1222225 (10Aklapper) [20:13:23] where do i report a bug with the office coffee machine? [20:13:40] (kind of serious) [20:13:50] mutante: OIT? :p [20:14:02] JohnFLewis: or facalities? [20:14:06] facilities damn [20:14:16] mutante: nah, OIT. Let them deal with it [20:14:31] heh [20:15:26] techsupport@ probably [20:15:32] 6Phabricator: Cannot view T96548 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96554#1222245 (10scfc) Ah, that makes sense. [20:15:55] I think the ticketing system behind it is shared by both teams [20:16:49] ok, thanks [20:20:20] it signed "WMF Office IT / Facilities" last time I saw it anyway [20:22:16] makes sense, ok [20:37:54] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222296 (10chasemp) [20:38:51] twentyafterfour: ^ [20:39:19] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222307 (10RobH) 5Open>3Resolved This was discussed and approved in our operations meeting. Since these two now will be s... [20:45:37] 6Engineering-Community, 6Team-Practices: Way of working in a good MediaWiki software project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85590#1222326 (10JAufrecht) a:3JAufrecht [20:47:08] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222328 (10RobH) T96613 handles paging stuff [21:23:37] 6Engineering-Community, 6Team-Practices, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015: Code of conduct/Phabricator etiquette/Friendly Spaces/etc breach consequences and escalation paths - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#1222435 (10ALantz) [21:55:51] 6Phabricator, 10Ops-Access-Requests, 6Release-Engineering, 6operations: Change twentyafterfour and demon to root on phabricator (iridium) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96425#1222608 (10RobH) [22:13:40] 6Phabricator, 5Patch-For-Review: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1222676 (10chasemp) >>! In T548#1222093, @matmarex wrote: >>>! In T548#1221432, @mmodell wrote: >> How can it be considered upstream bug exactly? Sounds like an up... [22:20:22] 6Phabricator, 5Patch-For-Review: "Resolved" should be the first (default) option in "Change Status" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T548#1222697 (10mmodell) So we should probably submit a patch upstream that adds an ordering property (int) to the status objects. I imagine they would accept it if we...