[00:04:03] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1070/#17248 [00:04:11] not sure we want edit policies like that [00:05:20] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1860818 (10Krenair) Why has #Fundraising-Analysis been marked as a private project within the last week? We do not permit this. [00:13:43] 6Phabricator, 6Developer-Relations, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1860893 (10ksmith) @greg: Thanks for creating the new task, and for the clarification about the veto. I hope your... [00:22:01] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1860981 (10Dzahn) [00:25:23] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1861000 (10Dzahn) [00:25:46] 6Phabricator, 6Developer-Relations, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, 6Release-Engineering-Team: Let's all stay in the loop on the Projects V3 update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120276#1861004 (10greg) >>! In T120276#1860893, @ksmith wrote: > I don't expect us to be able to steer phacility's develop... [00:49:47] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1861090 (10Jdforrester-WMF) BTW, I found this restoration of expected behaviour really helpful. I'd be sad for the 'regression' to b... [00:51:01] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1861098 (10atgo) Nooo it's so many more clicks for me, @jdforrester-wmf. Why don't you want the sprint board for your sprint projects? [01:01:14] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/details/1390/ [01:01:15] what [02:27:04] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1861235 (10MBinder_WMF) @Jdforrester-WMF before this regression, you could achieve the same by navigating to a project through the "... [08:07:59] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1861500 (10Dzahn) a:3Dzahn [08:12:37] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1861515 (10Dzahn) i'll follow-up tomorrow and check the phabricator permissions [14:35:02] Krenair: it is Fundraising-Analysis I guess [15:45:59] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1862338 (10Dzahn) so... it's a bit complicated since there are 2 groups. there is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/members/974/ which is a group somebody has to be added to ju... [15:46:07] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1862340 (10Dzahn) 5Open>3Resolved [18:42:47] anyone else having trouble getting through to gerrit? [18:42:56] i have lots of ssllooww pages, some 503s [18:43:13] yeah it's all in limbo as ldap changeover [18:44:55] brion: yes, see #operations: "Swapped to new ldap servers, connections timing out" [18:45:10] aho [18:45:11] thx :D [18:47:00] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1862916 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) Thank you @Dzahn, particularly since it seems this isn't really your responsibility! [18:49:58] 6Phabricator, 6WMF-Legal, 6WMF-NDA-Requests: Give Neil Quinn access to WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119122#1862949 (10Aklapper) Our process is just really screwed and I am sorry for that. :( Related: {T118444} - help and input welcome. Thank you @Dzahn. [20:29:04] 6Phabricator: Fix edit permissions of #WMF-Design project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119552#1863544 (10Aklapper) >>! In T119552#1831102, @Krenair wrote: > Surely there's some script that can be run from the command line to do this? And it'd actually leave a proper history entry? Hmm. Not sure. At least... [20:37:53] 6Phabricator: Fix edit permissions of #WMF-Design project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119552#1863612 (10demon) `./bin/policy unlock [object]` looks promising. [20:42:36] 6Phabricator: Fix edit permissions of #WMF-Design project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119552#1863642 (10demon) 5Open>3Resolved a:3demon Fixed. Bleh, it didn't actually log, but that's at least better than mucking about in the database. `./policy unlock PHID-PROJ-3y7llnazdtqsncj5zyk2` is what I en... [20:43:30] Krenair, andre__: Fixed ^ [20:43:37] ostriches: awesome. Thanks man! [20:43:48] andre__: ./bin/policy is the tool you want in the future. [20:43:55] np, easy once I figured it out [20:44:18] Yeah, I'll try to remember that [20:47:21] andre__: I updated ldap for phab fyi to coincide [20:47:25] seems ok but may want to keep an eye out [20:49:55] Ah cool. Break it, break it! :) [21:19:41] ostriches, please also drop policies from the 'restricted project' on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258 [21:21:18] I dunno what that project is even [21:21:21] It's restricted from me [21:22:34] assume https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/details/1390/ [21:22:41] which is Fundraising-Analysis [21:23:34] The project's existence shouldn't be hidden, even if membership isn't open to everyone imho. [21:23:52] agreed [21:24:03] it's FORIBIDDDDEEEENNNNN [21:24:50] same reason it doesnt' expand here https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1860818 [21:30:44] If we find the PHID from the db we can unlock it. [21:30:53] PHID-PROJ-6eas67picpi6hfg7ncgt [21:31:13] just got an email regarding the dump script and this missing project confusing ppl [21:31:18] so more fuel to unlock [21:31:40] The docs saying you can't do this is all the fuel we need to drop policies. [21:32:13] I try to be sensitive to the FR guys doing what they think is right but yes that's true [21:32:33] I don't care if they think they're right [21:33:49] Unlocked. [21:34:07] Now, we can adjust the "joinable by" bit, if that needs locking down for some reason. [21:34:22] But under no circumstances should the project itself not be visible to all :) [21:35:01] Sigh. [21:35:08] Phabricator still screws it up. [21:35:21] Default is viewable by all, not public, I know [21:35:22] It's dumb [21:35:49] I think that's a bug usually they do $most_permissive in these cases [21:37:12] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1863866 (10Krenair) It's been fixed. I have left a note on the project description. Please do not try that again on any project @ellery. [21:37:26] Not even Fundraising who did it. Ugh. [21:38:12] Oh, another messed up fundraising policy: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1070/#17248 [21:38:38] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1863869 (10demon) >>! In T119258#1860818, @Krenair wrote: > Why has #Fundraising-Analysis been marked as a private project within the last week? We... [21:38:39] Only one single person allowed to edit? We should probably have rules against this, even in the case of sort-of-ACL-but-not-official projects. [21:39:37] That's a bad idea for a bajillion reasons. [21:39:39] People leave. [21:39:42] Get hit by busses. [21:39:44] Etc. [21:39:45] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1863870 (10Krenair) Is #Fundraising-Analysis itself actually being used for ACL? It's not supposed to be, that would be a violation of the guidelines. [21:40:33] I suppose it's partially my fault for adding the line allowing this to the guidelines. [21:40:36] I'll fix it. [21:40:38] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1863871 (10demon) >>! In T119258#1863870, @Krenair wrote: > Is #Fundraising-Analysis itself actually being used for ACL? It's not supposed to be, t... [23:08:00] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864061 (10Qgil) The instructions to manage S5 private space and the members of #acl*fundraising_research_policy_admins who have access to it hav... [23:11:07] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864065 (10Aklapper) @ellery: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects#Project_Policies says: "IMPORTANT: these po... [23:45:03] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864153 (10Krenair) >>! In T119258#1864061, @Qgil wrote: > @krenair, let me add that your style resolving these situations comes across as unnecess... [23:47:35] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864164 (10ellery) I apologize for the confusion I have caused. I learn through experimentation and tend to bias towards action instead of sending... [23:52:11] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864169 (10Krenair) >>! In T119258#1864164, @ellery wrote: > @Krenair Please do not assume I am acting in bad faith, knowingly breaking rules and t... [23:57:05] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864186 (10DarTar) @krenair > It should be obvious that you should not mess around with transparency-sensitive things such as visibility policies... [23:58:39] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864196 (10ellery) @Krenair I think you are missing my point, maybe we can chat in person during All Hands. It seems like the one thing we can ag...