[00:10:08] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864224 (10Krenair) >>! In T119258#1864186, @DarTar wrote: > it's clear that this is a major gap in the software and you should **never **assume th... [00:13:16] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864229 (10Krenair) >>! In T119258#1864196, @ellery wrote: > @Krenair I think you are missing my point, maybe we can chat in person during All Hand... [00:44:09] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1864303 (10RobH) a:5RobH>3chasemp I've assigned this to the @chasemp for his review of the proposed workflow/email notifications of announcements. [02:39:24] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864456 (10mmodell) Really no harm was done. On the internet it is difficult to tell whether a comment is only matter-of-fact bluntness or intenti... [02:41:00] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1864465 (10mmodell) 3NEW a:3mmodell [02:41:30] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Fundraising-Analysis, 6Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1864477 (10mmodell) {T120903} [02:44:52] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1864481 (10Krenair) We should definitely be hiding visibility policy from everybody. I'd like to have a Maniphest-like 'Can Edit Policies' application policy for Projects, and then restr... [02:49:59] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1864492 (10mmodell) @krenair: I'd imagine that upstream would be receptive to a patch adding that functionality, however, I'm not sure how straightforward it is to implement. It doesn't feel... [02:50:46] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1864494 (10Krenair) Well, they've done it for Maniphest, haven't they? I think it makes sense to provide similar functionality in projects. [05:22:20] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1864590 (10mmodell) @krenair: for sure, it definitely makes sense and would be more consistent. I think maniphest just gets a lot more attention than projects does. [05:44:48] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1864601 (10mmodell) I can't actually find any upstream changes that should have broken this. [08:15:38] 6Project-Creators: Create project/tag WebPageTest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120916#1864712 (10Peter) 3NEW [08:26:55] 6Project-Creators: create a project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118713#1864729 (10Aklapper) 5stalled>3declined a:3Aklapper Unfortunately closing this report as no further information has been provided. @Sanjid133: Please feel free to reopen this report if you can provide the information asked for... [08:28:15] 6Project-Creators: Create project/tag WebPageTest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120916#1864734 (10Aklapper) Could this be a "normal" component project instead of a global [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Types_of_Projects | tag project ]] as this does not feel cross-compone... [08:30:49] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1864735 (10Aklapper) I do support this for the "Visible To" project policy. When it comes to "Editable By" project policies, it's more complicated: It is used for acl* projects that Spaces... [10:31:51] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: New tag for "MediaWiki-extensions-ORES" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120924#1864894 (10awight) 3NEW [10:44:01] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators: New tag for "MediaWiki-extensions-ORES" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120924#1864916 (10Aklapper) See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects#New_projects for required data [14:01:33] 6Phabricator: investigate hiding the policy controls for phabricator projects. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120903#1865177 (10Krenair) I don't think my proposal about limiting who can change project edit policies themselves would be incompatible with that setup, @Aklapper. Admins would be able to configu... [14:41:59] 6Phabricator, 5Release: Next Phabricator Upgrade - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120013#1865298 (10mmodell) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/256382/ [14:56:37] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1865339 (10admin) #maint-announce has been created as an administrative use project, it will only ever be used a private space for tracking vendor communications. [15:15:52] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1865404 (10chasemp) >>! In T103700#1865339, @admin wrote: > #maint-announce has been created as an administrative use project, it will only ever be used a private space for tracking vendor communicati... [15:16:59] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1865407 (10chasemp) p:5Triage>3Normal [15:18:45] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1865419 (10chasemp) a:5chasemp>3RobH I modified your plan slightly to reflect the technical possibilities of spaces and task creation. i.e. phab does almost all of this natively so we should t... [15:22:44] 6Project-Creators, 10Internet-Archive, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Create Internet Archive Project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115306#1865462 (10Sadads) [15:24:50] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1865479 (10chasemp) [15:26:14] 6Project-Creators, 10Internet-Archive, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Create Internet Archive Project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115306#1865492 (10Aklapper) @Sadads: Can you please reply to T115306#1762192? [15:39:56] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Upstream: Add support for task types - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93499#1865544 (10chasemp) Another symptom of our lack of standard on this issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116747#1798958 [16:14:50] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1865631 (10Krenair) If that's not actually to be used as an ACL project, why does it have those edit/join policies? [16:17:19] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1865639 (10chasemp) It's negotiable I guess, but considering all tasks will be in a private space with the ops acl it seems more disingenious to have it be joinable but not actually useful/used. [16:30:29] 6Project-Creators, 7Tracking: [Tracking] Project creation log task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103700#1865717 (10Krenair) Added to P2357 then. There's a disproportionately high number of ops projects there. [16:33:40] 6Project-Creators: New tag for "MediaWiki-extensions-ORES" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120924#1865730 (10greg) [16:40:51] 6Project-Creators, 10Internet-Archive, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Create Internet Archive Project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115306#1865763 (10Sadads) @Hydriz sorry for the slow ersponse, lost the email in a busy month: we are primarily creating this queue to allow us to keep Internet Archive informe... [16:42:25] 6Project-Creators: New tag for "MediaWiki-extensions-ORES" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120924#1865768 (10Krenair) Since this is a MediaWiki extension, I expect pretty much everything will be standard. So that just leaves the project description, but I'd prefer if it was documented on the MediaWiki.org E... [16:50:15] 6Project-Creators, 10Internet-Archive, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Create Internet Archive Project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115306#1865795 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved Thanks for clarifying. Closing as per last comment again, no changes needed. [18:55:20] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1866383 (10atgo) Weird... it definitely used to work differently. [19:03:03] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1866410 (10MBinder_WMF) Thanks for looking into it @mmodell. Are there any next steps we can help with to resolve this issue? [19:29:47] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1866486 (10Luke081515) Hello, can you add me to this group? There are repos, which needs projects (for extensions, etc., see T120915), so this... [19:32:36] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1866493 (10Luke081515) 3NEW [19:48:27] 6Project-Creators: New tag for "MediaWiki-extensions-ORES" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120924#1866549 (10awight) Thank you for politely calling me out on shooting from the hip ;-) Description: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ORES https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_s... [20:18:08] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1866663 (10Aklapper) We already have dedicated projects for all skins: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/8yyFvuEf_VfO/ When and how often do you want to see all tasks related to all and any skins? I'd love to underst... [20:23:58] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1866696 (10Aklapper) >>! In T706#1866486, @Luke081515 wrote: > Hello, can you add me to this group? There are repos, which needs projects (for... [21:18:04] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1866930 (10RobH) [21:22:17] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1866946 (10RobH) Please note that the projects needed for this were documented by @chasemp on T103700. We're linking in our testing tasks to this task as well. As all his proposed changes to my i... [21:27:38] 6Project-Creators: Sample problems - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121014#1866967 (10husn_shujaat) 3NEW [21:33:29] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1866996 (10RobH) [21:33:40] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1793387 (10RobH) [21:38:27] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1867015 (10Luke081515) Hm, ok, in this case an umbrella might be better, so this could user give an overview over all skin tasks (the "category" of skin tasks is imo big enough to don't search for all skin projects of https://phabri... [21:39:09] 6Phabricator, 6operations: migrate RT maint-announce into phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118176#1867018 (10RobH) So we've tested task creation by email to maint-announce@phabricator.wikimedia.org. As that is working, I've modified the maint-announce alias to send into both RT and Phabricator... [21:40:10] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1867023 (10Aklapper) But why would users know and care about projects, instead of using the simple search in the upper corner? :) [21:50:48] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1867087 (10Luke081515) I'm a meber of #Repository-Admins since today, to add these projects, so this is not a problem ;) (https://phabricator.... [21:59:20] 6Project-Creators: Sample program - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121014#1867124 (10husn_shujaat) [22:04:20] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1867159 (10Krenair) So basically, you're proposing to create at least one project for every mediawiki extension with source hosted by Wikimedi... [22:07:44] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1867172 (10Luke081515) Yeah, I can do this. But like @Aklapper said, we can create a project only for extensions, if they don't use 3rd party... [22:16:30] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1867220 (10Krenair) I'm not sure I see the value in doing that unless it means we can kill #MediaWiki-extensions-Other So I wouldn't object to... [22:21:37] 6Phabricator, 6Project-Creators, 6Triagers, 6operations: Requests for addition to the #project-creators group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706#1867247 (10Luke081515) Sorry, my fault, I did not found #mediawiki-extensions-other before. So in this case we can use this project, but in so... [22:26:35] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1867268 (10Luke081515) Searching with project=skins allow more specific search. For exmaple, if the seach box in the upper corner do not exactly match, it show search results from titles. In this case the list may be long, and not e... [22:32:35] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1867328 (10Aklapper) How many people are interested in watching all skin tasks? How many users will be aware of the "skins" project so they'd use it and find results faster? The general thing is: We can categorize a lot of things,... [22:41:26] 6Project-Creators: Sample program - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121014#1867380 (10husn_shujaat) p:5Triage>3Lowest [22:47:25] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1867427 (10Luke081515) Maybe we should find the general view of the users about that? Normaly slowvote (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/applications/view/PhabricatorSlowvoteApplication/) can be useful for that. A general survey to... [22:51:45] 6Project-Creators: Create tag "skin" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120989#1867460 (10Aklapper) > If we don't create this umbrella, I just don't know in which projects I could put rSKIN. Does that imply that you see a need to link //every// Diffusion repository to some project? I don't see that need... [23:47:58] 6Phabricator, 10Phabricator-Sprint-Extension: Regression: Sprint projects now display project board instead of sprint board by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120247#1867708 (10Christopher) FYI: This is something that is unique to the phabricator.wikimedia.org installation as I cannot reproduce th...