[00:07:12] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2535371 (10Danny_B) I would discourage you from this particular change in favour of more flexible, easier maintainable and future compatible structure: {icon users} Disc... [00:21:30] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2535437 (10ksmith) @Danny_B : If I'm understanding correctly, you like the proposed structure, but want us to go a step farther and convert a backlog column into a triage... [00:37:50] 10Diffusion, 10Labs-Kubernetes: Switch to sourcing kubernetes builds from phabricator instead of Gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142448#2535464 (10yuvipanda) [00:48:24] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2535491 (10Danny_B) >>! In T142445#2535437, @ksmith wrote: > @Danny_B : If I'm understanding correctly, you like the proposed structure, but want us to go a step farther... [01:10:43] 10Phabricator: Change Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016 from subproject to milestone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142246#2535519 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) I will check with the team, but I don't think it's critical enough that we need to come up with our own SQL query. We can probably just make the next quarter a... [01:46:41] 05Gitblit-Deprecate, 13Patch-For-Review: Fix references to git.wikimedia.org in all repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139089#2535563 (10Krinkle) [04:00:52] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Nikita13311331/ [04:30:31] another wiki gadget task in phab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142461 :/ [09:19:39] 10Phabricator, 10Gerrit: make gerritbot remove the "patch-for-review" tag once a patch is merged (or abandoned) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95309#2536088 (10Paladox) Hi sorry I raised it. I raised it since one of the tasks I merged had it at normal. [09:55:49] 10Differential, 05Gerrit-Migration, 07Documentation: Document use of Owners in Phabricator and advertise it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128372#2536120 (10Aklapper) >>! In T128372#2533947, @mmodell wrote: > I've expanded it just a bit to mention audit and provide a link to the "create package" form.... [15:19:46] 10Phabricator, 05Language-Engineering July-September 2016: Add Herald rules for Language July–September 2016 quarter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140605#2536683 (10Aklapper) **[offtopic]** @Danny_B: >>! In T140605#2509433, @Danny_B wrote: >> If you see someone not following these guidelines or not be... [15:22:38] 10Phabricator, 10Gerrit: make gerritbot remove the "patch-for-review" tag once a patch is merged (or abandoned) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95309#2536702 (10Dzahn) He merged 2 tasks and made sure that the resulting task had the same priority as the original one. No more and no less. [16:43:18] 10Phabricator, 05Language-Engineering July-September 2016: Add Herald rules for Language July–September 2016 quarter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140605#2470275 (10mmodell) I'd like to point out that global herald rules have a cost to execute which is non-trivial and adding an ever-increasing number of... [17:03:35] 10Phabricator, 07Performance: Review and consolidate current Herald rules - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141703#2537099 (10Aklapper) [17:06:14] 10Phabricator, 05Language-Engineering July-September 2016: Add Herald rules for Language July–September 2016 quarter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140605#2537101 (10Aklapper) Indeed. (I'll add my general comment to T141703.) I've archived H151 as per T140605#2509389 above. [17:09:50] 10Phabricator, 07Performance: Review and consolidate current Herald rules - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141703#2537118 (10Aklapper) Documentation-wise, I've added a warning to https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Phabricator%2FHelp%2FHerald_Rules&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=2212092&ol... [17:14:23] 10Phabricator: Create a custom form for private FR-tech tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129902#2537142 (10DStrine) Is there anyone who could help with this? [17:35:13] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2537211 (10ksmith) @Danny_B and I just had a lengthy conversation about this, and we concluded that the original proposal will be fine. These teams have some processes (K... [17:38:36] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2537217 (10Danny_B) @ksmith As I mentioned above - the cleanup is needed first in any case - please assure about no task tagged with both tags exists. Also, as we discus... [17:43:15] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2537257 (10ksmith) As of this moment, no tasks are in both projects. @Danny_B : After the migration has been done, I plan to rename the sprint project, and I (or you)... [17:45:43] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2537262 (10Danny_B) >>! In T142445#2537257, @ksmith wrote: > As of this moment, no (open) tasks are in both projects. [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/quer... [17:54:57] 10Phabricator, 06Project-Admins, 06Stewards-and-global-tools: Create acl*stewards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131766#2178040 (10Danny_B) >>! In T131766#2342987, @Luke081515 wrote: > For example T136418 would be a good example too for this acl. In this case it would be enough to add this ACL as CC. A... [18:26:23] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2537472 (10ksmith) I have removed the backlog tag from {T130235}. None remain in both. [18:39:04] 10Phabricator: Convert #Discovery-analysis-sprint to be a milestone of #Discovery-analysis-backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142445#2537524 (10Danny_B) Thank you. We can proceed further now as soon as it will fit in @mmodell's schedule. [18:57:29] twentyafterfour, andre__: So, moving here from -staff then [18:57:41] Used to be with the security dropdown it was easy to make WMF-NDA tasks [18:57:52] "Other confidential task" I think it was [18:58:00] I'm afraid I already miss what... ah, okay. That answers it. [18:58:03] then we changed to the current system and only actual security tasks get a form/special button [18:58:30] we can make a custom form for the wmf-nda task creation [18:58:38] So whether to have a form or not, and yet another Create New Task dropdown item displayed, I guess... [18:58:48] The "yet another" might be the bikeshed here :P [18:58:57] So, do we want to continue using WMF-NDA - if so, can we make a proper task creation/make-task-private-button system - if not, what are we replacing it with? [18:59:33] we don't have to add it to the dropdown, we can link to it elsewhere [19:00:20] I don't know if I'd like to duplicate the make-task-private ui but maybe we can extend the existing UI to cover both security and privacy issues? [19:00:48] Possibly [19:00:54] I would consider that form entirely secondary [19:00:58] * andre__ now has to drop the internet connection for a while (blocking this phone line) but knows you'll find a way without him. Sorry... [19:01:05] The important thing is creation [19:01:20] it's easy to make another custom form [19:01:27] If someone creates as public and wants to turn something private, they can make it security and ask for someone to de-escalate it a bit to WMF-NDA [19:01:42] it becomes clutter in the menu if we make it globally visible but we could just link people to it elsewhere and omit it from the create task menu [19:02:02] yeah that works (re: de-escalate) [19:02:14] better than nothing anyway [19:02:31] which is why I think the creation part is more important then messing with existing tasks [19:03:38] yeah, people handling privacy issues are more likely to already posses the requisite privileges to edit visibility (or can easily contact someone who does) vs. random security bug reporters [19:04:39] well I can make a form... wanna make a task about it or? [19:04:48] I asked in -staff, a user of this thinks a well-documented URL is fine [19:04:50] I'll make a task [19:05:12] agreed [19:17:41] 10Phabricator: Custom task form for #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142516#2537654 (10AlexMonk-WMF) [19:17:49] twentyafterfour, ^ [19:18:11] hope you don't mind being the assignee, I followed the custom-form-creation-form and you were the default [19:18:20] Krenair: no prob, thanks for making the task [19:18:23] custom-creation-form-creation-form :) [19:18:29] :) [19:19:57] CCFCFNF: custom-creation-form-creation-form-normal-form [19:20:43] the latest innovation in database form normalization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_normalization#Normal_forms) [20:45:05] 10Phabricator: Custom task form for #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142516#2537654 (10Luke081515) I would hide the story points, normally the creator (requestor in this case I guess) is not the one, who set the priority, same for story points. [21:26:09] 05Gerrit-Migration, 06Developer-Relations, 10Gerrit, 06Team-Practices: When uploading a new patch, reviewers should be added automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91190#2538304 (10Danny_B) [21:29:35] Danny_B: what is the intention behind such edits? ^ [21:35:22] Danny_B: That task was closed as invalid nearly a year ago (and there's a bunch of such edits, creating notifications) so I wonder which underlying problem you try to solve, and why you think that problem is important enough that makes you perform these edits. [21:35:34] Could you please elaborate? Thanks in advance. [21:44:57] Hi, I'm looking if we have a testing instance of phabricator where to test a bot that should be able to create tasks [21:45:13] volans phab-01 [21:45:58] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Phabricator [21:46:01] full url: http://phab-01.wmflabs.org/ [21:46:10] thanks [21:46:12] :) [21:46:22] oh, great, thanks! [21:46:33] :) [21:46:58] and there is some specific procedure to create a bot user there? [21:47:34] volans: I doubt it, all data there is ephemeral [21:47:52] but fyi there is a bot user type in phab that should be used [21:47:59] volans: i.e. just do it :) [21:48:21] volans i created a bot account too [21:48:27] but havent used it [21:49:00] yeah I was asking for that reason, bot users cannot have API token but certificate instead AFAIK [21:49:19] volans they can have api tokens [21:49:25] you go into its settings [21:49:31] and create the api token [21:49:35] conduit token [21:49:51] the last time I looked that was true but it was ages ago [21:50:06] maybe was on an older version of Phab [21:50:31] volans it seems it is a user account you created. [21:50:36] https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/p/opsbot/ [21:52:10] yes, there was no choice, I think that to create a bot you need to go to https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/people/create/ but I don't have access [21:52:29] oh would you like me to do it [21:52:34] i am an admin [21:52:54] paladox: can you just convert the opsbot user to a bot? [21:53:05] Ok i will see if i can do that [21:53:12] thanks a lot! [21:54:01] but unlikly since i read that is impossible do to security concerns [21:54:02] https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/users/ [21:54:06] volans ^^ [21:54:30] I can delete the account and make it a bot, and you will need to create an account. [21:54:56] paladox: make sense [21:55:15] go ahead and feel free to delete the opsbot I just created [21:55:30] Ok [21:58:53] volans https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/people/manage/22/ [21:58:58] thats the bot [22:00:51] paladox: great, I'm creating my user [22:00:58] https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/p/Volans/ [22:01:09] Ok, i think i need to make you an admin to be able to access the bot [22:01:26] I just need it's API or certificate in the end [22:01:32] whatever is easier for you [22:01:51] greg-g chasemp twentyafterfour can i make volans an admin, or is there another way i can get him / her to access the bot please? [22:02:12] in phab-01? don't care :) [22:02:17] its' fine yeah [22:02:29] make him the only admin that's the real trick [22:02:31] Ok [22:02:41] chasemp actually very easy [22:02:50] you press the make admin button on the user page [22:03:07] and thanks [22:03:14] it's easy only if it's a red big button :-P [22:03:22] volans your an admin, could you see if you can access the page. [22:03:24] and lol [22:03:28] with written on top: click here [22:03:46] yes I can access [22:04:03] LOl and :) [22:04:29] and I was able to create it's API token [22:04:49] :) [22:05:26] thanks a lot paladox! [22:05:34] Your welcome :) [22:08:13] I guess at this point you don't mind if I can create also 3~4 tags [22:09:28] Nope [22:09:37] you can create [22:09:41] since it is for testing [22:38:30] 10Phabricator, 06Project-Admins: Custom task form for #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142516#2538595 (10mmodell) From the #WMF-NDA project [[ /project/profile/61/ | description ]]: > **NOTICE**: This group is for NDA signatory access to **RT level core-ops issues and equivalent**. Any other use... [22:54:29] Is there a parent task/project for requesting phabricator bot accounts? [22:58:03] 10Phabricator, 06Project-Admins: Custom task form for #WMF-NDA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142516#2537654 (10Danny_B) +1 to split `#WMF-NDA` to //properly named// acl*... projects. However, what would be the **{icon users} NDA** good for? [23:13:43] bd808: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/bot-requests/ AFAIK [23:13:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Bots [23:14:13] volans: thanks! my mw search fu failed me [23:14:26] lol [23:14:55] been there, I'm requesting a bot account too ;) [23:15:31] I "cheated" last time I wanted one and just made a wikitech account :) [23:16:51] eheheh [23:30:12] 10Diffusion, 06Community-Tech-Tool-Labs, 06Labs, 10Striker, and 2 others: Create application to manage Diffusion repositories for a Tool Labs project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133252#2538728 (10dpatrick) [23:33:15] 05Gitblit-Deprecate, 13Patch-For-Review: Fix references to git.wikimedia.org in all repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139089#2419069 (10Dzahn) pending changes that did not get reviews or merges: integration/raita: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/296879/1 mediawiki/extensions/SemanticBundle https... [23:33:37] 05Gitblit-Deprecate, 13Patch-For-Review: Fix references to git.wikimedia.org in all repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139089#2538733 (10Dzahn) p:05High>03Normal