[01:06:13] 10Phabricator, 06Operations, 13Patch-For-Review: networking: allow ssh between iridium and phab2001 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143363#2801280 (10Dzahn) iridium-vcs renamed: [radon:~] $ host phab1001-vcs.eqiad.wmnet phab1001-vcs.eqiad.wmnet has address 10.64.32.186 phab1001-vcs.eqiad.wmnet has IPv6... [02:04:42] 06Project-Admins, 06Developer-Relations (Oct-Dec-2016): Spaces request for SIEM - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150046#2801428 (10Krenair) @Aklapper, why did you grant this without addressing my concern? [10:23:19] 06Project-Admins, 06Developer-Relations (Oct-Dec-2016): Spaces request for SIEM - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150046#2801987 (10Aklapper) @Krenair: Because [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects#Challenging_a_created_project | minor problems like a description that... [11:18:22] 06Project-Admins, 06Developer-Relations (Oct-Dec-2016): Spaces request for SIEM - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150046#2802140 (10Krenair) No, that problem needs to be sorted before project/space creation so we can discuss whether to grant a new private space or not. You do need to address it if you want... [11:24:45] 06Project-Admins, 06Developer-Relations (Oct-Dec-2016): Spaces request for SIEM - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150046#2802171 (10Aklapper) IMO the fact that a difference exists was addressed sufficiently in T150046#2786656. Describing the difference can still be done by editing the project description (s... [11:29:56] 06Project-Admins, 06Developer-Relations (Oct-Dec-2016): Spaces request for SIEM - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150046#2802189 (10Krenair) That comment is nowhere near sufficient for this kind of thing, it doesn't describe the scope of contained tasks. ACL projects/spaces need serious community discussion... [12:19:35] 06Project-Admins, 06Developer-Relations (Oct-Dec-2016): Spaces request for SIEM - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150046#2802308 (10Aklapper) >>! In T150046#2802189, @Krenair wrote: > That comment is nowhere near sufficient for this kind of thing, it doesn't describe the scope of contained tasks. I am sur... [12:44:10] 06Project-Admins: Create EmailAuth project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150909#2802334 (10Aklapper) @Tgr: I've added you to `acl*Project-Admins`. Feel free to [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/edit/form/4/ | create the project ]] by [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_re... [16:05:12] 10Diffusion, 10Phabricator (Upstream), 07Upstream: File contents do not show up if content is not valid utf-8 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144672#2802754 (10Paladox) The syntax option has been removed in the new phabricator update. Syntax highlighting is on by default now and carn't be switched off. [16:53:20] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: pbraicator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2802868 (10jcrespo) [16:54:03] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabiicator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2802882 (10jcrespo) [17:00:38] 10Phabricator: Phabricator search gave a really weird reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150966#2802887 (10grin) [17:01:04] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2802900 (10Aklapper) [17:03:49] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2802917 (10mmodell) p:05Triage>03High [17:09:16] 10Phabricator: Phabricator search gave a really weird reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150966#2802926 (10Aklapper) Confirming when searching for `legal@wikimedia.org` in the upper right corner. {T148298} is similar. [17:09:50] 10Phabricator: Unhandled exception "syntax error, unexpected @, expecting $end" when search string contains @ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150966#2802928 (10Aklapper) p:05Triage>03Low [17:12:12] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2802937 (10mmodell) This seems to be related to fulltext search, I'm still investigating further. [17:13:19] 10Phabricator: "no results" when attempting to add parent task by searching All Open Tasks with exact task title - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148093#2802940 (10Aklapper) [17:17:38] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2802956 (10jcrespo) https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/mysql?var-dc=eqiad%20prometheus%2Fops&var-server=db1043&from=now-24h&to=now This graph is intere... [17:18:22] 10Phabricator: Danny_B edit wars with members of multiple projects to enforce his personal preferences of project settings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142935#2802958 (10Aklapper) 05Open>03declined I have not seen any such edits recently hence I don't see this issue existing anymore. Not sure if tha... [17:19:33] 10Phabricator, 06Brickimedia: Figure out what to do with current and old tickets of Brickimedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132992#2802966 (10Aklapper) Anything left to do here? Or that requires input / help? [17:21:55] 10Phabricator: Task edit form unneededly displays locked "Security" dropdown field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127637#2802969 (10Aklapper) [17:25:28] 10Phabricator: Enable Youtube embedding in Phabricator (via "remarkup.enable-embedded-youtube") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135733#2802996 (10Aklapper) [17:27:06] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803004 (10jcrespo) As I may disconnect soon, I've left a screen on db1043 killing queries running for over 600 seconds called 878.kill-long-queries as a mitiga... [17:42:03] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803048 (10mmodell) ok so I just deployed a hotfix which should limit those token_* queries to no more than 5 tokens and I filtered short words which could have... [17:43:07] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803056 (10mmodell) @jcrespo: The hotfix should be live, assuming it works (I'm pretty sure it will) then your mitigation script may not be needed. [17:49:08] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803063 (10mmodell) @jcrespo: Thanks for catching this, I wouldn't have noticed until everything died. [17:50:48] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803065 (10Paladox) I wonder what changed since the last phabricator update to cause this problem? [17:54:21] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803071 (10jcrespo) p:05High>03Low I have changed the script to print rather than to kill, will close this tomorrow and stop the script if I get no other in... [17:54:31] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803074 (10mmodell) @paladox: These two commits touched PhabricatorProjectQuery but I haven't figured out what might have caused the issue exactly: * {rPHAB9a1... [17:55:10] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803075 (10Paladox) @mmodell thanks, maybe this https://secure.phabricator.com/rPe053534c7e84b09e5f01ac3acb41352bb6a37e05 will improve things? [17:56:09] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2803076 (10mmodell) [17:58:33] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803077 (10Aklapper) [18:04:02] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803124 (10Paladox) Hi, here is the trace back from phab-01 {P4464} [18:13:55] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803154 (10Paladox) @Aklapper I came to here https://secure.phabricator.com/source/phabricator/browse/master/src/applications/transactions/storage/Phabri... [18:17:50] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803182 (10mmodell) [18:18:25] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803077 (10mmodell) 05Open>03Resolved a:03mmodell @paladox: thanks! Fixed ;) [18:19:51] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803194 (10Paladox) @mmodell your welcome and thanks for fixing it :) [18:24:43] 10Phabricator: "Undefined variable: field" exception trying to add a "Link to Open Tasks" to a project's menu items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150971#2803246 (10Paladox) @mmodell this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/5/panel/new/custom.open-tasks/ shows blank to me with only a submit button. [18:25:13] why are there two wikibugs? [18:26:33] twentyafterfour wikibugs needs restarting [18:26:35] i think [18:26:37] legoktm ^^ [18:28:55] wikibugs has dissociative identity disorder ;) [18:38:36] 10Phabricator, 10Elasticsearch: Re-evaluate how we implement phabricator's search engine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146843#2803301 (10mmodell) [18:41:57] 10Phabricator, 10Elasticsearch: Re-evaluate how we implement phabricator's search engine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146843#2803306 (10Paladox) This would also reduce the load on the database. Also it would improve searching. There may be cons and pros but elasticsearch seems to be better now then whe... [18:42:23] 10Phabricator, 10Elasticsearch: Re-evaluate how we implement phabricator's search engine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146843#2803308 (10Paladox) @mmodell can we un stall this task please? [18:43:06] 06Project-Admins: A request to open a project for WMIL Hackers community - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150977#2803315 (10Tal-WMIL) [18:48:27] 06Project-Admins: A request to open a project for WMIL Hackers community - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150977#2803340 (10Aklapper) Happy to see this! [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects | Could you also provide a project description ]], please? And is there any lin... [18:53:10] 06Project-Admins: Create #MOOC or #WikiMOOC tag or group - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150895#2803353 (10Aklapper) Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects for required information. Also, where could someone find out more? Is that https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P... [19:00:16] 10Phabricator, 10Elasticsearch: Re-evaluate how we implement phabricator's search engine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146843#2803371 (10Aklapper) @Paladox: I know you are trying to be helpful, but broad unspecific statements like "this would also reduce the load on the database" generally don't help wh... [19:02:24] 10Phabricator, 10Elasticsearch: Re-evaluate how we implement phabricator's search engine - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146843#2803373 (10Paladox) Oh sorry. [19:06:25] 06Project-Admins, 07RfC: Consider logging of project renamings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141256#2803399 (10Aklapper) 05stalled>03declined Unfortunately closing this report as no further information has been provided. Please reopen this report (by changing its status) after you have provided the... [19:06:33] 06Project-Admins, 07RfC: Consider logging of project renamings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141256#2803401 (10Aklapper) a:05Danny_B>03None [19:19:12] 06Project-Admins: Consider logging of project renamings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141256#2803419 (10Aklapper) [19:24:31] 06Project-Admins, 10Tool-Labs-tools-Database-Queries: Archive Tool-Labs-tools-Database-Queries project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107699#2803461 (10Aklapper) Any comments / input to my last comment, please? [20:55:46] Oooo, shiny new "Mentions" section in phab tasks. E.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126863 Very nice. :) [20:55:54] Also the simplifications in the task-graph, if the items are just direct parent/child, e.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34281 Woo! [20:55:56] I wonder if we can easily get the greasemonkey hacks to show both "Related Objects" tabs to show inline instead of as tabs? [20:57:05] Yay. Finally people who like a task tracking system! :P [20:58:39] andre__: long live bugzilla [20:58:54] * andre__ slaps Reedy [20:59:02] trolling to epic heights [20:59:09] you could be president [20:59:29] "President"? We call that "ED" here! [20:59:33] webkit still uses bugzilla [20:59:42] Oh wait, I think that was a different context :P [20:59:45] What is ED? [20:59:51] Executive Director [21:00:06] oh thanks for explaning :) [21:00:09] yw [21:00:46] andre__: Sorry, I meant RT [21:02:38] Please, we should be using Trac [21:02:40] no question [21:05:12] I've managed to track my tasks pretty well with an Excel table so far... [21:07:11] andre__: Excel 97? [21:08:47] LOL, i have excel 2010 [21:09:15] though i havent installed it since windows 7, i used the new excel but i am not paying a subscription fee [21:09:37] also i have office 97 so it is unlikly to work on windows 10 [21:09:59] you're not there yet till you are writing your own text file todo management scripts [21:26:38] chasemp: If you suggest Trac again I'm going to come and beat you with a steel pipe. [21:26:54] ostriches now you two play nice :P [21:27:26] Hey I was here, MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS [21:27:36] Then chasemp came and said crazy things that make me violent. [21:27:38] Like Trac [21:27:50] LOL [21:27:56] What is trac? [21:27:58] I AM NOT KIDDING [21:28:11] paladox: The worst piece of software ever bestowed upon humanity [21:28:15] And that includes Windows ME [21:28:21] paladox: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=trac [21:28:24] Fuck. Trac. [21:28:27] ostriches you did not just insult ME [21:28:33] win* [21:28:33] lol windows me was the worst [21:28:41] fk you too :P jk [21:28:47] Indeed I did! [21:29:00] Windows ME is not the worst software ever. [21:29:02] That's Trac! [21:29:57] ostriches i loved messing with win ME infact i have a VM i just screw around on and lets just say i've managed to actually run office 2016 (or whatever the hell microsoft called the latest office) on it [21:29:57] ostriches: I'm sorry, you were saying? Your message is loading very slowly. [21:30:05] valhallasw`cloud lmfao [21:31:37] Loading. [21:31:38] Loading.. [21:31:40] Loading... [21:31:45] Loading.... [21:31:57] Loa [21:31:59] d [21:32:00] i [21:32:04] ng.......... [21:32:22] LOl [21:32:30] ostriches windows me was the worst [21:32:40] DATA_BUS_ERROR (0x0000002E) [21:32:41] windows 2000 worse, windows xp is a classic [21:32:50] lol [21:32:55] Windows2000 was worse than ME? [21:33:00] Wtf were you smoking back then? [21:33:41] ostriches i wasent even 6 then [21:34:09] plus i doint smoke [21:34:13] Yeah so windows 2k was great :) [21:34:27] XP was just 2k with some fancy UI on top :p [21:34:30] NT5 vs 5.1 [21:34:36] OH, my dad had a pc which came with windows 2000 but then he installed windows xp on it [21:34:48] win98forever >.> (I went from that to Ubuntu) [21:35:06] After Windows 98 Linux distros became slowly usable = All previous problems replaced by different problems. [21:35:07] quiddity: That Win98 SE tho :p [21:35:22] powerpack! [21:35:36] ...but which color to use for that bikeshed? Hmm. [21:35:47] LOL [21:35:57] Next up on #wikimedia-devtools: Your favorite programming language! [21:36:00] powertoys*? [21:36:09] andre__: I have one word. ndiswrapper. [21:36:14] https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Random [21:36:18] andre__ (dont take this seriously its just a joke) We need a break room added in phab man, we're overworked and we need coffee and snacks man. [21:36:21] ostriches: I feel your pain. [21:36:27] quiddity i doint even have to install ubuntu to be able to run it [21:36:35] without installing it as a dual boot/vm [21:36:37] i have bash [21:36:45] i really recommend it [21:36:47] Zppix: Not in Phab. Phab is all work and no phun! [21:37:03] Yeah no fun because we disabled fun mode :( [21:37:03] lol [21:37:05] andre__ i guess ill just go on strike xD [21:37:55] ostriches even though microsoft have a new browser, i still use internet explorer [21:37:58] LOL [21:38:51] I can run ubuntu without dual booting too [21:38:54] and using a vm [21:38:59] Because there's no sense in always getting the latest stuff or version. People are free too, however. [21:39:19] * paladox likes getting the latest things [21:39:45] You can, personally. But maybe not when you try to run a stable system. [21:40:02] Zppix: Those of us that had been up all night were in no mood for coffee and donuts, we wanted strong drink. [21:40:31] chocolate alcohol? [21:40:48] valhallasw`cloud: I could use a strong drink myself. This week has sucked... [21:40:56] * Zppix hands valhallasw`cloud the whole liqor shelf from wal-mart [21:40:59] * valhallasw`cloud hugs ostriches [21:41:24] we have carlsberg [21:41:28] Zppix: Ew, budget liquor. Enjoy your hangover! [21:41:41] which covers the whole of the uk from a single factuary in the town i am in [21:41:57] ostriches what about uk ones? [21:42:21] There not budget liquor, tesco, sainsbury's, aldi's, lidl's, morrisons, asda [21:42:27] now asda is walmart here [21:42:46] Cheap liquor -> you get a hangover [21:42:54] You get what you pay for :) [21:43:03] LOL, woulden the expensive ones do that too [21:43:17] paladox it all depends on tolerence [21:43:33] * andre__ was drinking cheap booze in the UK last weekend and did get a hangover. Indeed. :-/ [21:43:50] andre__: Hangover could've possibly been caused by the UK ;-) [21:44:33] hehe [21:45:23] So cost usually correlates to quality when it comes to liquor. But not always! [21:45:39] One of my favorite vodkas is only $20 for a 750ml [21:45:44] Which is *cheap* by US standards. [21:45:51] But it's soooooooooo high quality [21:45:53] sigh [21:45:55] ostriches https://groceries.asda.com/dept/drinks/beer-cider-ales/1215345814764 [21:46:01] https://groceries.asda.com/dept/drinks/wine-champagne/1215345814806 [21:46:51] ^^ it's owned by walmart but dosent act like walmart [21:47:11] they arn't doing black friday this year, they do it all during the year. [21:47:27] http://reyka.com/ <- Basically my favorite right now. Thank you Iceland <3 [21:47:51] http://reyka.com/ has been blocked by BT Parental Controls because the account holder has Light filters on. [21:47:55] ostriches ^^ [21:48:04] lol [21:48:23] BT doesn't like Iceland I guess :p [21:48:35] LOL, not with the parential controls on [21:48:43] they switch them on by default [21:49:03] ostriches we have iceland https://www.iceland.co.uk/ [21:49:28] they are already starting christmas early [21:50:56] ostriches: the best wodka is just mixing pure water and 80% alcohol, which is surpisingly cheap to make ;-) [21:51:03] 10Phabricator: Error creating Milestone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150992#2804007 (10JAufrecht) [21:51:17] valhallasw`cloud: Yeah, but having good water is paramount! [21:51:50] Reyka uses glacial runoff. Which means their business can only grow (thanks global warming!) [21:51:56] :D [21:52:15] ostriches: how's your Dutch? [21:52:33] Non-existent :p [21:53:49] Unfortunate. A Dutch TV show (which investigates food product sourcing) made a fun episode about wodka [21:55:00] but they are not worldly enough to make english subtitles, unfortunately [21:58:08] valhallasw`cloud I can speak Deutsch a bit (not much though) :P [21:58:12] valhallasw`cloud: any public link? :) [21:58:26] http://www.npo.nl/keuringsdienst-van-waarde/03-03-2016/KN_1679004 [21:59:19] 10Phabricator: Error creating Milestone - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150992#2804007 (10Paladox) From the error log when testing it on phab-01 on https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/project/edit/?milestone=15 {P4467} [22:00:08] 10Phabricator: Error creating Milestone: Argument passed must be array, string given, called in /PhabricatorPHIDListEditField.php:58 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150992#2804029 (10Aklapper) p:05Triage>03High [22:01:05] thanks! [22:01:59] they do have dutch subtitles, which might help :) [22:02:31] Meh. Requires Flash player it seems :( [22:03:06] mmm [22:03:40] that's weird, they had an html5 player at some point... [22:03:42] I click on the website and i have flash player installed, but carn't navigate [22:06:04] 10Phabricator: Error creating Milestone: Argument passed must be array, string given, called in /PhabricatorPHIDListEditField.php:58 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150992#2804052 (10Paladox) when trying to create a test one, I get this error too {P4468} [22:09:20] Sorry, I can't find a workaround :( [22:13:28] No problem, still thanks :) [22:23:40] 10Phabricator, 10DBA, 06Release-Engineering-Team: phabricator close to saturate its database connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150965#2804147 (10mmodell) 05Open>03Resolved a:03mmodell [22:25:12] in the topic isnt it supposed to say tools not tooling? [22:25:57] 10Phabricator: Error creating Milestone: Argument passed must be array, string given, called in /PhabricatorPHIDListEditField.php:58 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150992#2804173 (10Paladox) [22:26:55] No [22:36:33] Aww, I can't op to play with the topic. [22:36:44] I was gonna change it to "development tooly stuff" [22:37:38] LOL [22:37:53] ostriches from Reedy http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/17/three-mobile-cyber-hack--six-million-customers-private-data-at-r/ [22:37:56] ive been hacked [22:37:57] again [22:37:59] LOL [22:38:19] it just has to be the one that provides my unlimited data why coulden it be ee [22:38:29] anyways i am pay as you go. [22:38:36] so not much they can do with that [22:38:37] lol [22:39:38] 10Phabricator, 06Operations, 13Patch-For-Review: networking: allow ssh between iridium and phab2001 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143363#2804228 (10mmodell) This should be resolved now, I think? [23:43:44] 10Phabricator, 06Developer-Relations, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 10Wikimedia-Blog-Content: blog.wikimedia.org post on Phabricator improvements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141457#2804499 (10Aklapper) So I assume everybody waits for someone else to rephrase. Which means this will never happen. Hen... [23:52:00] 10Phabricator: Huge walls of text in task description are just unreadable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130229#2804517 (10Aklapper) Proposing to decline this task - anyone is free to update the wiki page about writing tasks. (Personally I don't like huge walls of text so I sometimes ask people to provide...