[01:27:46] <mwalker>	 K4-713: hey katie
[01:27:58] <K4-713>	 hey. I'm blowing up.
[01:28:06] <K4-713>	 ...and logging in to Jenkins.
[01:28:25] <mwalker>	 yep yep
[01:28:29] <mwalker>	 it's a fraudster
[01:28:34] <mwalker>	 with a gmail.commmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[01:28:36] <mwalker>	 domain name
[01:28:45] <K4-713>	 Well... I don't know that means "fraudster"...
[01:28:59] <K4-713>	 Or "person whose keyboard got stuck".
[01:29:36] <mwalker>	 given that there are two different messages with different names/addresses and the same email
[01:29:38] <mwalker>	 fraudster
[01:29:49] <K4-713>	 Are there? I just saw the one.
[01:30:00] <mwalker>	 or at least person who disturbed my afternoon nap and therefore deserves the banhammer
[01:30:13] <K4-713>	 :)
[01:30:46] <K4-713>	 Ban... comm.* ?
[01:31:05] <K4-713>	 Or rather, .*.comm.*
[01:31:53] <K4-713>	 Ah, there we go. Disabled.
[01:31:55] <mwalker>	 I don't understand this -- I moved the offending message out of the queue -- how is it still blowing up
[01:31:59] <K4-713>	 oh shit.
[01:32:15] <mwalker>	 ?
[01:32:26] <K4-713>	 Ah... all the times ActiveMQ has gone completely insane, started exactly like that.
[01:32:43] <K4-713>	 Moving the message in their UI.
[01:32:55] <mwalker>	 oh fun
[01:33:02] <K4-713>	 Now it's in this weird message purgatory...
[01:33:08] <mwalker>	 well; I could just straight up delete it
[01:33:16] <K4-713>	 nooooooesss...
[01:33:25] <K4-713>	 That's step 2 to disaster.
[01:33:30] <mwalker>	 *facepalm*
[01:33:34] <K4-713>	 Right?
[01:33:45] <K4-713>	 This is why I signed in. :)
[01:34:16] <K4-713>	 The best/only way to handle this and make the thing happy is to alter the QC code to ack the damn thing.
[01:34:27] <mwalker>	 grrrruuuuummmmmbble
[01:34:30] <K4-713>	 yep
[01:35:09] <K4-713>	 Anyway, I finally got in and disabled qc
[01:35:30] <mwalker>	 ok; I presume its safe to ignore this today and I'll deal with it on monday
[01:35:53] <K4-713>	 I'd be inclined to say "yes".
[01:36:05] <mwalker>	 cool
[01:36:11] <K4-713>	 But, I'm not sure what their plans are over the weekend as far as running... things.
[01:36:19] <mwalker>	 grrr
[01:36:22] <mwalker>	 I'll send an email
[01:36:32] <mwalker>	 and then back to my nap -- worst case I'll fix it tonight
[01:36:41] <K4-713>	 Whatever the plan is, though, I'm sure it can be changed.
[01:37:18] <mwalker>	 *nods*
[01:37:53] <K4-713>	 But, yeah: To avoid what might be a nontrivial data loss event at that point...
[01:38:06] <K4-713>	 ...you may have to move the damaged message back in to the original queue.
[01:38:19] <K4-713>	 The UI is... fraudulent.
[01:39:01] <marktraceur>	 K4-713: You're a surprisingly high amount of online right now
[01:39:05] <K4-713>	 I've seen "moved" messages look moved from the UI, and unmoved from the QC until you try to ack it.
[01:39:24] <K4-713>	 marktraceur: Yeah... seven Red Alert claxons in a row will do that.
[01:39:28] <mwalker>	 have I said I love AMQ today
[01:39:41] <mwalker>	 marktraceur: werent you supposed to be getting sonic?
[01:39:49] <marktraceur>	 I was, but nobody wanted to come with
[01:39:54] <K4-713>	 mwalker: Really? I want a pint of AMQ's blood.
[01:40:01] <marktraceur>	 So I just drove in a big loop around the Mission in hopes of charging my battery
[01:40:15] <K4-713>	 I'm going to drink it. With rum.
[01:40:15] <marktraceur>	 And then I'm going to go down to SFO to pick up my college mate who's moving in with me for a while
[01:40:20] <mwalker>	 ah; should of joined us at hot cookie
[01:40:22] <mwalker>	 delicious!
[01:40:24] <marktraceur>	 have*
[01:40:34] <mwalker>	 K4-713: good plan
[01:40:34] <marktraceur>	 You're a terrible human being
[01:40:41] <mwalker>	 it'll be like jaegermeister
[01:40:51] <mwalker>	 marktraceur: whats wrong with hot cookie?
[01:40:57] <mwalker>	 best cookies in town!
[01:40:57] <marktraceur>	 mwalker: "should of"
[01:40:59] <K4-713>	 Only... so shady that light will fall in to it.
[01:41:02] <marktraceur>	 Terrrrrrible
[01:41:19] <K4-713>	 So, exactly like jager.
[01:41:21] <K4-713>	 Anyway.
[01:41:23] <mwalker>	 fine! you should have joined us at hot cookie
[01:41:25] <marktraceur>	 mwalker: I'm sure anyplace with "cookie" in the name is amazing
[01:41:25] <mwalker>	 yep yep!
[01:41:44] <mwalker>	 K4-713: thanks for popping online to stop me from destroying everything
[01:41:55] <mwalker>	 but go enjoy your evening!
[01:42:04] <K4-713>	 I'm... going to say one more time "You will almost certainly need to solve this with QC code if you don't want to blow it all up" and wander off. :)
[01:42:08] <mwalker>	 yep yep
[01:42:16] <mwalker>	 marktraceur: so you're off to the airport in a bit?
[01:42:23] <marktraceur>	 Yeah, in like 20 minutes
[01:42:29] <K4-713>	 mwalker: Baller. Thanks for popping online, too.
[01:42:31] <marktraceur>	 Aiming to arrive at 19:20
[01:42:47] <mwalker>	 ah kk -- that's about the time we were going to wander off to find dinner
[01:42:48] * K4-713  wanders off before one of you pages Ironholds

[01:42:58] <mwalker>	 hehe
[01:43:00] <marktraceur>	 mwalker: We could join you if you wandered towards the mission
[01:43:11] <marktraceur>	 Aw, there's no trust
[01:43:25] <mwalker>	 I'll text you -- not sure when our final member in the party is going to show up
[01:43:29] <marktraceur>	 KK
[01:43:47] <mwalker>	 aaaand; back to my nap
[01:43:54] <marktraceur>	 mwalker: e.g. Beretta (23rd and Valencia) is delicious and has a respectable bar
[01:44:00] <marktraceur>	 Though it may have a long wait
[18:59:47] <awight>	 mwalker: I'm hacking on the field length thing.
[18:59:50] <awight>	 Just a workaround.
[19:00:13] <awight>	 It turns out, IETF sez strlen(email)<=254
[19:04:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Adamw: Max field length validation during import [wikimedia/fundraising/crm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82121
[19:05:01] <awight>	 mwalker: ^^ if y're bored