[00:13:33] <slander>	 #917: (AW) So many issues. TS:ID|MtPCRo:(s -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/917
[02:26:33] <slander>	 #1233: (AW) Looks great, but there's a syntax error in the ... -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1233
[02:31:33] <slander>	 #1233: (AW) Why is the final alterImpression thing outside ... -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1233
[18:10:34] <slander>	 #1238: (AW) Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1238
[18:11:33] <slander>	 #1238: (AW) Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1238
[18:24:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Adamw: "Eesh, just a n.b., "Never" in the commit subject is a flat-out lie. There are about a dozen files which still query into the civicrm tabl" [wikimedia/fundraising/crm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99783 (owner: Adamw)
[18:26:17] <awight>	 mwalker: K4-713: I wanna deploy the DB transaction code again--this time I have a config variable to switch behavior to non-transactional if needed.  'k?
[18:26:30] <mwalker>	 *shrugs*
[18:26:32] <K4-713>	 ooo
[18:26:40] <awight>	 hehe extreme reactions
[18:26:41] <K4-713>	 Ah, what happens if it goes foom?
[18:26:47] <awight>	 We all gotta duck...
[18:27:01] <awight>	 and then I hit <ret> on the switch to go non-transactional
[18:27:04] <K4-713>	 I ask, because it's almost in the meatiest part of the fundraising day.
[18:27:11] <awight>	 ok I can waits
[18:27:30] <awight>	 although... high traffic is the best time to test this :(
[18:27:47] <K4-713>	 Yeah, we should probably not disrupt 19:00 to 20:00 UTC on days in which they plan on doing a lot of tests... which is today.
[18:28:03] <awight>	 It should not break any results...
[18:28:14] <K4-713>	 No, but it will slow 'em down.
[18:28:24] <awight>	 by ten minutes, maybe
[18:28:24] <K4-713>	 And they will totally come ask about it.
[18:28:31] <awight>	 I will offer my arse
[18:28:40] <awight>	 I've planned this all out, see ;)
[18:28:44] <K4-713>	 heh
[18:29:15] <K4-713>	 Unfortunately, we really shouldn't slow 'em down today.
[18:29:19] <K4-713>	 Maybe... later in the week.
[18:29:23] <awight>	 ok
[18:29:30] <K4-713>	 I'd say later this afternoon, but you're off.
[18:29:42] <awight>	 this is good advice, no worries
[18:30:43] <awight>	 mwalker: https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1030 :p
[18:30:51] <awight>	 mwalker: hey, I also wanted to ask...
[19:16:46] <Romaine>	 hello
[19:17:05] <Romaine>	 we discovered on a Dutch donations page an ugly error in spelling
[19:17:13] <Romaine>	 anyone here who can fix it?
[19:19:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Adamw: (FR #1093) Support queue item download [wikimedia/fundraising/crm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100419
[19:20:01] <the-wub>	 hi Romaine, can you email pcoombe@wikimedia.org and I'll get to it as soon as I can
[19:20:18] <Romaine>	 ok
[19:20:33] <slander>	 #1093: (AW) ->Sprint 36 -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1093
[19:20:33] <slander>	 #1093: (AW) Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1093
[19:20:33] <slander>	 #1093: (AW) TS:DR -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1093
[19:20:33] <slander>	 #1093: (AW) AT:AW|TS:ID -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1093
[19:20:33] <slander>	 #1093: (AW) TS:PCR -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1093
[19:24:52] <Romaine>	 the-wub: send!
[19:26:42] <the-wub>	 thanks
[19:31:04] <Romaine>	 we as OTRS team are discussing a message from a person who wants to donate, even while the link is in the sidebar, it appearantly isn't noticed often
[19:39:20] <awight>	 mwalker: to your knowledge, is this completed? https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1243
[19:39:33] <awight>	 the-wub: Jeff_Green: ^^ as well
[19:39:34] <jvandavier>	 Romaine: which ticket is it? i'm in the OTRS room, but it looks like they're just discussing a software issue
[19:39:38] * jvandavier  could be missing something

[19:40:25] <mwalker>	 awight: depends on if the-wub has figured out how to do sftp from lutetium
[19:40:32] <Romaine>	 I meant the Dutch team
[19:41:01] <Jeff_Green>	 awight: this is the first I've heard of that card afaik
[19:41:13] <awight>	 Jeff_Green: It's just a card.  U were already doing the work ;)
[19:41:20] <Jeff_Green>	 ha
[19:41:32] <awight>	 This is about the row-locked long transaction that was blowing us up every morning
[19:41:33] <slander>	 #1243: (AW) TS:DR -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1243
[19:41:33] <slander>	 #1243: (AW) AT:AW|TS:ID -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1243
[19:42:05] <Jeff_Green>	 the query is just a select? why the heck was it *ever* done on the master db?
[19:42:09] <awight>	 argh
[19:42:14] <awight>	 r/w permissions, i think
[19:42:27] <Jeff_Green>	 ?
[19:42:28] <awight>	 it need to write into a temp table
[19:42:37] <Jeff_Green>	 oh the horror
[19:42:57] <jvandavier>	 Romaine: oh, ok. they can move it to am-donations and we can take it
[19:43:00] <the-wub>	 awight mwalker : I'm still using aluminium at the moment. but I thought it was okay now
[19:43:01] <jvandavier>	 *wm-donations
[19:43:10] <mwalker>	 Jeff_Green: because if it didn't run on the master (w/o replication) it caused horrible replag
[19:43:16] <the-wub>	 after mwalker added SET SESSION TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL READ COMMITTED;
[19:43:17] <awight>	 the-wub: hmm, nothing blows up-- what didyu fix?
[19:43:35] <Romaine>	 today in a actuality program on Dutch television there was a story about Wikipedia
[19:43:37] <awight>	 the-wub: awesome, I was gonna head in that direction.  Thanks
[19:44:37] <Romaine>	 in the programm an internet journalist said that this year with asking again donations that Wikipedia is in trouble due lack of donations
[19:44:42] <Jeff_Green>	 mwalker: so we're going to need a two-part fix
[19:44:50] <Romaine>	 apparantly that person isn't informed well
[19:45:07] <Romaine>	 lucky in the programm also the director of Wikimedia Netherlands spoke
[19:45:29] <mwalker>	 Jeff_Green: nah; the fix is to get the-wub in a place where he can run his stuff on lutetium -- which he almost is bar some strange sftp / putty fail
[19:46:06] <mwalker>	 Romaine: did they get siebrand too?
[19:46:17] <Romaine>	 no
[19:46:29] <Romaine>	 but there might be more people responding to that item in that programm
[19:46:41] <Jeff_Green>	 mwalker: if he's blocking replication on lutetium for more than a minute or two that is also a problem
[19:46:52] <Romaine>	 by the way, how do you handle for example Dutch reactions and questions?
[19:47:13] <mwalker>	 Jeff_Green: nah; because of what I'm setting the tx iso level to
[19:47:33] <mwalker>	 I didn't do that originally because we weren't in the right logging mode for it
[19:47:41] <mwalker>	 but now we are; so everything's peachy
[19:48:09] <Jeff_Green>	 I don't follow
[19:48:12] <mwalker>	 Romaine: that's a question for the-wub and jvandavier
[19:48:25] <Jeff_Green>	 maybe I need more coffee :-P
[19:48:41] <jvandavier>	 Romaine: good to know! i've someone on my team that speaks dutch, so we can typically respond to questions or concerns
[19:48:52] <mwalker>	 Jeff_Green: so; the big long query now runs under READ COMMITTED; which doesn't hold row locks
[19:49:01] <Jeff_Green>	 OH, neato
[19:49:07] <jvandavier>	 Romaine: it might be helpful to remind them to move donation-related inquiries to our queue - we check it on a regular basisi
[19:49:12] <jvandavier>	 *basis, even
[19:49:24] <mwalker>	 Jeff_Green: *nods* it's good for this type of thing where I
[19:49:31] <mwalker>	 'm not concerned about internal consistency
[19:50:00] <Romaine>	 we just discussed it in the team, so we know of moving them
[19:50:15] <Romaine>	 may I ask who is the Dutch speaking person?
[19:50:30] <Jeff_Green>	 mwalker: cool. then we just need him to migrate over to lutetium
[19:51:18] <mwalker>	 ya
[19:52:19] <mwalker>	 the only blocker is that he was running sftp "silverpop-api@wikimedia.org"@transfer4.silverpop.com and getting a very strange error back
[19:52:24] <mwalker>	 somethign that I didn't get
[19:52:58] <jvandavier>	 her name is Carmen, she's a contractor with us
[19:55:12] <Romaine>	 ok
[19:55:18] <Romaine>	 don't know her
[19:55:58] <Romaine>	 she is welcome in the Netherlands / Belgium :-)
[19:56:26] <Romaine>	 (anyone else too by the way :) )
[19:56:30] <jvandavier>	 lovely :-)
[19:56:38] <Romaine>	 past Friday we had someone from WMF in Brussels
[20:10:07] <Seddon>	 Romaine: Frank?
[20:10:14] <Romaine>	 hello
[20:14:06] <Romaine>	 Seddon? yes?
[20:14:42] <Seddon>	 oh sorry that was a question Romaine :P I was wondering whether it was Frank Schulenberg )
[20:15:28] <Romaine>	 ow
[20:15:36] <Romaine>	 [20:52] <jvandavier> her name is Carmen, she's a contractor with us
[20:51:27] <ori-l>	 meganhernandez: hello! can i bug you for a second?
[21:02:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwalker: [C: 2] GlobalCollect listener [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94086 (owner: Adamw)
[21:02:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwalker: [V: 2] GlobalCollect listener [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94086 (owner: Adamw)
[21:03:33] <slander>	 #1030: (MW) TS:PD -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1030