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[12:51:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Pcoombe: Add Malay and Ukrainian to detail_languages for aggregation [wikimedia/fundraising/tools/DjangoBannerStats] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119740
[16:40:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Pcoombe: iDeal and Sofort forms - change amount options to match what we now use elsewhere [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119775
[16:46:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ssmith: [C: 2 V: 2] iDeal and Sofort forms - change amount options to match what we now use elsewhere [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119775 (owner: Pcoombe)
[16:46:29] <K4-713>	 hee
[16:46:44] <K4-713>	 mwalker: You there for real?
[16:47:05] <mwalker>	 yepyep
[16:47:16] <mwalker>	 what can I do for you?
[16:47:25] <K4-713>	 Did you by any chance experiment with installing and using apollomq?
[16:49:19] <mwalker>	 no; that was all Adam
[16:49:28] <K4-713>	 awight was trying to tell me last night, that it was 100% drop-in replacement and that I should do it on my local instead of trying to run down activemq... which appealed to me at the time, because *everything* amq has right now looks totally brokeass.
[16:49:49] <K4-713>	 Like, really brokeass.
[16:49:53] <mwalker>	 hmm
[16:50:00] <mwalker>	 well; Apollo is a fork of AMQ
[16:50:07] <mwalker>	 and supports the STOMP protocol
[16:50:07] <K4-713>	 It's like the 'net equivalent of a ghost town.
[16:50:19] <K4-713>	 Yeah... I have a broker running on my local.
[16:50:36] <K4-713>	 But apparently there's an extra layer of security that we... didn't need before.
[16:50:40] <K4-713>	 Ah well.
[16:50:48] <mwalker>	 for AMQ or Apollo?
[16:50:51] <K4-713>	 Apollo.
[16:51:06] <mwalker>	 erm... don't know what to tell you on that then...
[16:51:09] <K4-713>	 Server's complaining that the username/pw is invalid.
[16:51:27] <K4-713>	 ...which is... you know, strange.
[16:51:29] <mwalker>	 its not apollo / admin?
[16:51:29] <K4-713>	 At all.
[16:51:37] <K4-713>	 No, I mean, for sending messages.
[16:51:42] <mwalker>	 oh
[16:51:43] <K4-713>	 I can get in to the console.
[16:51:45] <mwalker>	 uh...
[16:51:48] <K4-713>	 Exactly.
[16:51:54] <mwalker>	 make sure you've enabled the STOMP protocol?
[16:52:01] <mwalker>	 and it's on the right port?
[16:52:26] <mwalker>	 (you can try telnetting to the STOMP port too to see what it's doing; that's how I debug my install)
[16:52:51] <K4-713>	 Yeah, it's on the right port.
[16:53:01] <K4-713>	 That's how I know it's complaining about un/pw.
[16:53:18] <K4-713>	 Also, it's in the verbose broker run command, just in case you missed it everywhere else.
[16:54:06] <mwalker>	 hmm... new in STOMP 1.2 is authentication
[16:54:19] * K4-713  facepalms

[16:54:28] <K4-713>	 Okay, F this for the moment, then.
[16:54:49] <mwalker>	 http://activemq.apache.org/apollo/documentation/user-manual.html#Authentication
[16:55:51] * K4-713  bookmarks this for much later

[16:58:51] <mwalker>	 heh
[17:07:41] <K4-713>	 mwalker: How's the skiing?
[17:07:51] <mwalker>	 great!
[17:07:54] <mwalker>	 I'm tiring dad out
[17:07:58] <K4-713>	 hehe
[17:08:08] <mwalker>	 and occasionally bouncing down the slope :p
[17:09:15] <K4-713>	 Oh, it wouldn't be fun if that didn't happen sometimes.
[17:09:40] <mwalker>	 I know!
[17:09:52] <mwalker>	 I tried to convince dad we should take snowboarding lessons too
[17:09:58] <K4-713>	 Oh man.
[17:10:02] <mwalker>	 but apparently he likes his tailbone
[17:10:07] <K4-713>	 I hear that's easier if you never learned to ski.
[17:10:21] <mwalker>	 probably
[17:10:24] <K4-713>	 Like, everything that will kill you skiing, keeps you upright on a snowboard.
[17:10:26] <mwalker>	 going down the slope sideways
[17:10:45] <mwalker>	 hmm
[17:10:57] <K4-713>	 "Lean forward as far as possible... no, *all* your weight on the front foot..."
[17:11:25] <mwalker>	 that's not all that different...
[17:11:25] <K4-713>	 huh. wth, paypal audit.
[17:14:23] <K4-713>	 I understand it's one of those things you have to experience before the profundity is apparent.
[17:15:22] <K4-713>	 I'm probably never going to do it myself... when snowboarding first became popular, I'd already been skiing for a few years, and those snowboard jerks were *awful*.
[17:15:30] <K4-713>	 Just... terrible.
[17:15:50] <pizzzacat>	 I sometimes get off the couch
[17:15:58] <pizzzacat>	 and sit in a chair
[17:16:06] <pizzzacat>	 and other times I sit on the couch
[17:16:16] <pizzzacat>	 and look at skiing photos
[17:16:21] <K4-713>	 My favorite incident was a whole group of 'em, camping on the hill right at the bottom of a jump. They were invisible until you were airborne.
[17:16:27] <K4-713>	 :[
[17:16:37] <K4-713>	 pizzzacat: bahaha
[17:16:47] <pizzzacat>	 I once heard of a guy who skiid
[17:17:18] <K4-713>	 This makes it less likely that you spend a significant amount of time with a broken [critical body part] in the cold.
[17:17:19] <pizzzacat>	 it's weird that I lived in Colorado Springs and the PNW and have never been skiing or snowboarding!
[17:17:20] <mwalker>	 K4-713, that happens with skiiers too; cant account for stupidity
[17:17:35] <mwalker>	 pizzzacat, shaaaaame
[17:17:48] <mwalker>	 though; you're like kaldari if I recall and dont enjoy the cold?
[17:18:00] <K4-713>	 mwalker: Yes, but there was a time in which all the n00b stupidity was pretty much totally contained in the "snowboarders" group...
[17:18:11] <K4-713>	 I am deeply prejudiced as a result.
[17:19:24] <pizzzacat>	 I'm …ok with the cold …sometimes, but I'm more of the boring lady who stays in the hot tub while everyone skiis and reads a book. :-/
[17:19:27] <K4-713>	 pizzzacat: That is weird. There are these three resorts right next to eachother in the cascades, all catering to different skill levels. Like, 90 minutes from Seattle (if that).
[17:19:35] <pizzzacat>	 mainly I just don't do things that are concussive
[17:19:51] <K4-713>	 I'm not gonna lie: I thought I was gonna die up there a couple times.
[17:19:55] <pizzzacat>	 yeah! I know. I know… I've snowshoed though!
[17:20:04] <pizzzacat>	 haha haha
[17:20:22] <pizzzacat>	 isn't that why people do it?! it's so scary
[17:20:47] <K4-713>	 It all starts with "And for some reason, by bindings didn't release and I had ejected both poles and couldn't reach my boot which was somehow above my head..."
[17:21:11] <K4-713>	 "...and the sun was setting, and I couldn't see *anyone*."
[17:21:29] <mwalker>	 pizzzacat, never saw the point of snowshoeing
[17:21:33] <mwalker>	 I'd rather XC ski
[17:21:48] <mwalker>	 K4-713, oooh; I did something similar my first day here
[17:21:48] <K4-713>	 I never got the point of XC.
[17:21:54] <K4-713>	 Seems like a lot of work. ;)
[17:22:01] <mwalker>	 mostly, it's faster than walking
[17:22:05] <mwalker>	 that's about it
[17:22:14] <K4-713>	 mwalker: ARGH, pretzel crashes are awful.
[17:22:20] <pizzzacat>	 yeah… I do remember jumping down the mountain after a very strenuous uphill trek, thinking, "snowboarding this would probably be reallllly fun…"
[17:22:30] <mwalker>	 mine involved me upside down in a tree
[17:22:34] <K4-713>	 !
[17:22:34] <pizzzacat>	 snowshoeing is like a lame person's snowboarding
[17:22:39] <pizzzacat>	 haha wat
[17:23:03] <K4-713>	 Did you impacting the tree cause the snow in the tree to fall on you with perfect comedic timing?
[17:23:10] <K4-713>	 (because that happens)
[17:23:29] <mwalker>	 I was traversing an avalanche zone which had wiped out a slope; and didn't make a turn fast enough; and ended up upside down on the slope with my skis caught in some tree branches
[17:23:32] <mwalker>	 sadly; the tree did not fall on me
[17:23:43] <K4-713>	 Dang.
[17:23:47] <mwalker>	 I know!
[17:24:04] <K4-713>	 Did anybody at least see it happen?
[17:24:12] <mwalker>	 ya; dad was with me
[17:24:15] <K4-713>	 I usually feel weirdly better when somebody does.
[17:24:38] <mwalker>	 at least if something bad happens in that case; there's someone to call the rescue peoples
[17:25:41] <K4-713>	 seriously.
[17:25:53] <K4-713>	 This is probably all marginally better with the advent of cellphones, too.
[17:26:05] <K4-713>	 ...unless you're somewhere totally insane.
[17:26:27] <mwalker>	 speaking of which; I'm very angry at my phone right now
[17:26:41] <mwalker>	 it decided; even though I'd told it to not use data 100 bajillion times
[17:26:43] <mwalker>	 to use data
[17:26:48] <mwalker>	 at the rate of 15$ / MB
[17:26:59] <K4-713>	 AGH
[17:27:05] <mwalker>	 which; over the course of an hour and a half costed me $200
[17:27:07] <K4-713>	 What network?
[17:27:18] <mwalker>	 I'm on T-Mobile in the US
[17:27:24] <mwalker>	 over here; iono
[17:27:39] <K4-713>	 Do they let you do that cool thing where you can retroactively sign up for international data?
[17:27:59] <K4-713>	 (as long as you get it before the end of the billing cycle)
[17:28:06] <mwalker>	 I've no idea; I'll have to call tmo when I'm back in the US
[17:28:15] <mwalker>	 and be angry that their firmware clearly has a bug
[17:28:27] <K4-713>	 Heh. "Bug".
[17:28:36] <mwalker>	 *sigh*; no kidding
[17:29:06] <mwalker>	 15$/MB... *grumble*
[17:29:06] <K4-713>	 AT&T is pretty badass about this stuff, with the retroactive international add-ons.
[17:29:13] <K4-713>	 You should say that.
[17:29:24] <mwalker>	 I might
[17:29:56] <mwalker>	 there's a whole bunch of crap associated with this bill though that I'm going to have to bring up
[17:30:10] <mwalker>	 because I thought I was on a different plan anyways which is significantly cheaper interantionally
[17:31:05] <K4-713>	 Do you know off the top of your head, what version of activemq we are currently running?
[17:31:33] <K4-713>	 I'm logged in to the prod console, and it's not giving anything up.
[17:31:35] <mwalker>	 pretty sure it's a custom patched version of 5.9
[17:31:47] <K4-713>	 5.9, really.
[17:31:59] <mwalker>	 ya; jeff and I went through an upgrade process a while ago
[17:32:14] <K4-713>	 What did you have to patch?
[17:32:28] <K4-713>	 Anything I need to worry about for local testing?
[17:33:01] <mwalker>	 I had to patch a resource check bug on startup
[17:33:16] <mwalker>	 it's not going to affect you unless you keep scads of data in your queues and restart things
[17:34:54] <K4-713>	 Yeah, I... shouldn't do those things.
[17:35:01] <K4-713>	 >_>
[17:35:01] <K4-713>	 <_<
[17:35:45] <mwalker>	 ok; so symptom of the bug is AMQ not starting because it thinks it doesn't have enough disk space
[17:35:58] <mwalker>	 solution is to tell it that the store can take up more space
[17:43:03] <K4-713>	 This is genuinely terrible: https://activemq.apache.org/getting-started.html#GettingStarted-StartingActiveMQ
[17:43:16] <K4-713>	 Note how every place they say "Then Type:" there is NOTHING AFTER THAT.
[17:43:38] <mwalker>	 yep
[17:43:45] <K4-713>	 Even in the source. I looked.
[17:43:46] <mwalker>	 what problem are you having?
[17:44:07] <K4-713>	 Installing ActiveMQ. :p
[17:44:19] <K4-713>	 ...but seriously.
[17:44:34] <K4-713>	 I have the files.
[17:45:25] <K4-713>	 The difficulty is that it seems that all the official docs are damaged beyond the ability to... use them at all.
[17:45:47] <mwalker>	 yaay
[17:45:54] <mwalker>	 so... you can run it by hand
[17:46:00] <K4-713>	 I want to.
[17:46:02] <mwalker>	 run ./bin/activemq
[17:46:44] <K4-713>	 'tis spewing a help file.
[17:47:08] <K4-713>	 Which seems to be genuinely helpful. For a change.
[18:00:51] <K4-713>	 mwalker: ...do you remember how Jeff finally found the amq admin console default password?
[18:00:56] <K4-713>	 I remember it took, like, 4 hours.
[18:01:24] * K4-713  eats own hand

[18:05:20] <K4-713>	 Ha. I did find how to turn off the pw entirely on my local. Some jetty conf xml.
[18:09:43] <K4-713>	 pizzzacat: ...I think we are stuck without CR for the rest of today.
[18:09:54] <pizzzacat>	 CR?
[18:09:59] <K4-713>	 Code review.
[18:10:01] <K4-713>	 (I probably should have thought that through more completely)
[18:10:12] <pizzzacat>	 oh
[18:10:22] <K4-713>	 Unless awight has some kind of spasm.
[18:10:46] <pizzzacat>	 I'm ok with that, today
[18:10:51] <pizzzacat>	 but you perhaps are less so
[18:11:02] <K4-713>	 Yeah, I sort of wanted to... do. Things.
[18:11:11] <K4-713>	 ...you know: At work.
[18:11:22] <pizzzacat>	 wat that is rly weird K4
[18:11:29] * K4-713  eats remaining hand in frustration

[18:11:39] <pizzzacat>	 haha how are you even typing
[18:11:41] <K4-713>	 kdznbfgm fgkxdbmkg szset
[18:11:43] <pizzzacat>	 oh toes
[18:11:54] <pizzzacat>	 I guess sharpen up those skills
[18:12:04] <K4-713>	 Strongbad makes it look so easy.
[18:12:13] <pizzzacat>	 hehe
[18:12:16] <K4-713>	 (I installed Dragon in, like, two seconds)
[18:12:24] <K4-713>	 (not really)
[18:12:46] <K4-713>	 (I don't think they make an ubuntu version)
[18:13:12] * pizzzacat  googles Dragon

[18:13:20] <pizzzacat>	 aha
[18:13:24] <K4-713>	 I think it makes hilarious emails.
[18:13:56] <K4-713>	 I had voice recognition on my answering machine for a while.
[18:14:03] <pizzzacat>	 one of my favorite tweets was something like "my new speech to text app is pretty damn a carrot"
[18:14:05] <K4-713>	 It usually converted "Katie" into "Sweetie".
[18:14:14] <K4-713>	 Which made things excellent.
[18:14:47] <K4-713>	 "Hi sweetie, it's your doctor" and such.
[18:14:56] <pizzzacat>	 pahaha
[18:15:03] <pizzzacat>	 have you seen Her?
[18:15:10] <K4-713>	 No, but I want to.
[18:15:51] <pizzzacat>	 you should.
[18:17:27] <K4-713>	 For a second, I thought you were talking about that old MC Hammer song.
[18:20:44] <pizzzacat>	 haahaha
[18:20:53] <pizzzacat>	 you would.
[18:21:18] <K4-713>	 I can neither confirm nor deny that song's presence on my ipod.
[18:53:51] <slander>	 #1439: (AG) Adam - this needs to be completed before end of... -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1439
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[19:49:39] <mwalker>	 K4-713, did you get your AMQ install figured out?
[19:49:55] <K4-713>	 Yes, but I am about to murder something for totally unrelated reasons.
[19:50:04] <mwalker>	 anything I can help with?
[19:50:16] <K4-713>	 It seems to be something damaged on my local install of civi.
[19:50:41] <K4-713>	 Prod isn't having this issue.
[19:50:46] <mwalker>	 ah... drush rr; drush updatedb are all the mystic magic I know of
[19:51:13] <K4-713>	 I am about to commit something really stupid; You'll like it.
[19:51:14] <K4-713>	 Really.
[19:52:14] <K4-713>	 (once I clean up all the outrageous profanity in die() statements I just peppered around the whole thing to try to figure out why the hell no civi queries were coming back with anything better than empty arrays)
[19:53:27] <K4-713>	 ...oooh, yeah, can't commit that. Language.
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[19:54:34] <awight>	 swear-word pseudocode?  I like when I miss context around here.
[19:55:20] <K4-713>	 awight: You know anything about some civicrm_semaphore table that ruins everything?
[19:57:48] <awight>	 K4-713: err WHAT
[19:57:49] <awight>	 no
[19:57:52] <awight>	 will look
[19:58:37] <awight>	 interesting, I've been wondering how Civi deals with multiple instances accessing a database, pretty sure there is no semaphore/mutex of any type
[19:58:41] <K4-713>	 It's probably an update that got stuck mid-process at some point or some dang grumblegrumbleargh.
[19:58:49] <awight>	 what are the symptoms?
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[19:59:23] <K4-713>	 Nothing in wmf_civicrm.module returns anything other than an empty [explative]ing array.
[19:59:38] <awight>	 There is no civicrm_semaphore.
[19:59:50] <awight>	 K4-713: can u paste an example?
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[20:00:06] <K4-713>	 nope
[20:00:16] <awight>	 or point me to the bug report or something?
[20:00:24] <K4-713>	 I am... oh wait.
[20:00:24] <awight>	 and, is this dev box or production?
[20:00:28] <K4-713>	 my own.
[20:00:36] <awight>	 ah
[20:00:43] <K4-713>	 Which is why I suspect some freaking update got stuck somewhere.
[20:00:51] <K4-713>	 <h1>Uncaught exception thrown in shutdown function.</h1><p>PDOException: SQLSTATE[42S02]: Base table or view not found: 1146 Table &amp;#039;civicrm.semaphore&amp;#039; doesn&amp;#039;t exist: DELETE FROM {semaphore}
[20:01:01] <awight>	 wt..f..
[20:01:02] <K4-713>	 ...running the gc_wr1 script.
[20:01:11] <awight>	 that is a drupal table, in that case.
[20:01:20] <awight>	 so check yr *settings.php
[20:01:20] <K4-713>	 no, it's a civi dao query.
[20:01:24] <awight>	 but but...
[20:01:27] <awight>	 curly braces...
[20:01:29] <K4-713>	 I know.
[20:01:37] <awight>	 yeah drupal table.
[20:01:43] <awight>	 can u check settings?
[20:01:58] <K4-713>	 CRM_Core_DAO::executeQuery does it, though.
[20:02:06] <awight>	 errrrr...
[20:02:12] <awight>	 doubting that
[20:02:34] <K4-713>	 I'm dying right after that call.
[20:02:37] <awight>	 there is no reference to semaphore in the civicrm module
[20:02:57] <awight>	 yeah it really looks like you have your *settings.php configured to use the wrong database for drupal stuff
[20:03:11] <K4-713>	 The rest of everything runs.
[20:03:24] <K4-713>	 Like, my civi instance on port 81.
[20:03:39] <K4-713>	 Not sure how I can have bad conf if that works.
[20:03:46] <awight>	 grep UF_DSN sites/default/civicrm.settings.php
[20:04:03] <awight>	 cos there's stupid ass two places where the drupal DSN is set
[20:04:09] <K4-713>	 ...
[20:04:25] <K4-713>	 And that has zero effect on the frontend?
[20:04:29] <awight>	 right :-/
[20:04:42] <K4-713>	 What the [redacted].
[20:04:42] <awight>	 hehe my hands are tied to emit expletives in this channel
[20:04:51] <awight>	 I see you are coping as well
[20:05:24] <awight>	 CIVICRM_DSN should be your civicrm database, and CIVICRM_UF_DSN should be the drupal db
[20:05:30] <awight>	 don't kill the messenger
[20:05:36] <awight>	 "UF"???
[20:05:46] <K4-713>	 CIVICRM_UF_DSN is drupal...
[20:06:00] <K4-713>	 And the other one is fine too.
[20:06:02] <awight>	 lol I just lost the ability to type in English for a second
[20:06:04] <K4-713>	 Awesome.
[20:07:11] <K4-713>	 Riddle me this: If I'm using CRM_Core_DAO::executeQuery, I shouldn't have to push the db on to the db stack, right?
[20:07:17] <awight>	 well, my only clue so far is that Drupal does PDO, Civi does not, and it's a drupal table
[20:07:21] <awight>	 oh derp
[20:07:35] <awight>	 you're in hot pursuit
[20:07:41] <K4-713>	 What to know the genuinely stupid thing?
[20:07:44] <K4-713>	 This works in prod.
[20:08:01] <awight>	 correct, u should not have to push a db
[20:08:05] <K4-713>	 Verified 1,000,000 times in jenkins logs.
[20:08:13] <K4-713>	 Argh, I was not.
[20:08:20] <awight>	 but I think you're right that something is failing to pop before returning control to drupal.
[20:08:26] <awight>	 what is the exact thing you're running?
[20:08:49] <K4-713>	 I'll commit it. Once I stop cussing and dying all over.
[20:08:59] <awight>	 lol for reals
[20:10:31] <awight>	 K4-713: oh and a side note, sadly we should actually get rid of the db switcher.
[20:11:20] <awight>	 The transactionality stuff I did mostly eliminated all code where we used the nice drupal DB interface, cos we need to always work through civi's internal db connection.  i.e., only use that crappy CRM_Core_DAO::executeQuery
[20:12:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Katie Horn: Allows the wr1 processor to find contributions in civi from either an order_id or a contribution_tracking id. [wikimedia/fundraising/crm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119816
[20:12:53] <K4-713>	 awight: ^^
[20:12:56] <awight>	 k
[20:13:22] <awight>	 hey, can u CR my patch from yesterday?
[20:13:30] <K4-713>	 Also, remind me to make a bigass card with "testing framework for audit scripts" in the title.
[20:13:30] <awight>	 not quid pro quo but...
[20:13:36] <awight>	 yes.
[20:13:48] <awight>	 that is a big card.
[20:15:27] <awight>	 argh, first pass thru, that code looks fine
[20:16:04] <K4-713>	 The best part? I had to die (and cuss) in wmf_civicrm_dao_to_list to even SEE the error that I pasted up there.
[20:16:13] <awight>	 whoa
[20:16:23] <K4-713>	 Otherwise, it just swallows the freaking thing.
[20:16:25] <awight>	 that's a big hint actually
[20:16:33] <awight>	 I think the error does not happen *unless* u die
[20:16:42] * K4-713  squints

[20:16:46] * K4-713  squints more

[20:17:01] <awight>	 if you die, then you are in a pushed db world, then when all the drupal death stuff happens you are effed
[20:17:35] <awight>	 so the original symptom was that dao_to_list was returning emptiness?
[20:17:36] * K4-713  facepalms self into a hole in the ground

[20:17:44] <K4-713>	 Yes. Always emptyness.
[20:17:54] <K4-713>	 I could take the query and run it manually, and get results.
[20:18:02] <awight>	 ... /me tries to remember how to debug this crap
[20:18:27] <K4-713>	 ...crap. I hate to eat lunch real fast before a 2pm meeting.
[20:18:41] <awight>	 no worries!
[20:18:47] <awight>	 I hate lunch too :p
[20:18:58] <awight>	 I'll be online all afternoon
[20:19:45] <awight>	 did you notice that Civi's executeQuery has the most insane call syntax of anything ever written?
[20:19:51] <K4-713>	 Dang. These... never return false. I wonder how long that's been going on.
[20:19:58] <K4-713>	 That's kind of important.
[20:20:22] <K4-713>	 ...says so in the function documentatoin.
[20:20:51] <K4-713>	 oooooooo.
[20:20:55] <awight>	 agreed
[20:21:24] <K4-713>	 I can't help but notice, that cf1d9b5 happened right about the time that Caitlin started saying that refunds stopped coming in .
[20:21:57] <awight>	 yeah i was surprised nothing was obviously engulfed in flames after that
[20:22:25] <K4-713>	 ...which makes total sense. It's looking for a strict false to come back if there's nothing there. It's been assuming the whole time that all the refunds are already in.
[20:22:33] <awight>	 aha!
[20:22:47] <awight>	 u could test for false-ish now...
[20:22:53] <K4-713>	 Not really.
[20:23:01] <awight>	 either way
[20:23:29] <K4-713>	 They're reading empty arrays as... not-falseish.
[20:23:55] <K4-713>	 true-esque. :p
[20:24:11] <awight>	 that's why they call u K--
[20:24:24] <K4-713>	 This would also explain your allegations of a zillion duplicate messages from the wr1 audit.
[20:24:28] <K4-713>	 ...I think.
[20:24:51] <K4-713>	 But, okay. Really need to lunch now.
[20:24:53] <awight>	 we should log a summary line for that
[20:24:59] <K4-713>	 back in... I have no idea how long.
[20:25:09] <awight>	 but I retract my allegations, cos that was actually around the correct number
[20:25:21] <awight>	 2% of total or so coming through WR1
[20:25:34] <K4|gone>	 qc would still catch the dupes.
[20:25:40] <K4|gone>	 So, that still makes sense.
[20:26:54] <awight>	 no i mean, the volume of queue messages was roughly on target so it doesn't look like there was a huge dupe leak.
[20:33:03] <awight>	 K4|gone: merchantreference is the contribution_id, or the contribution_tracking.id ?
[20:35:28] <awight>	 K4|gone: oh nvm, I see.
[20:36:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Adamw: "Found two bugs. I'm really concerned about the first one tho, cos it should have thrown a db error. If we're suppressing errors we have " (3 comments) [wikimedia/fundraising/crm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119816 (owner: Katie Horn)
[20:43:43] <K4|gone>	 awight: I'm not convinced about one of those things you mentioned in comments, as I ran the query manually in mysql and it came back as expected.
[20:43:49] <K4|gone>	 Otherwise, this looks helpful..
[20:43:54] <K4|gone>	 :p
[20:46:22] <K4-713>	 Ugh. Not going to be able to know for sure for a couple hours, though.
[20:49:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Katie Horn: [C: -1] "I'm not done with this yet." [wikimedia/fundraising/crm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119816 (owner: Katie Horn)
[21:11:41] <awight>	 K4-713: right?  the id thing is really weird.  There's no way that query can run...
[21:22:53] <slander>	 #1472: (AG) TS:ID -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1472
[21:27:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Krinkle: "I assume this is supposed to be an array, not an object? It's not placeholding the cookie (becuase that defaults safely to empty string, m" [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118356 (owner: Mwalker)
[21:27:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Krinkle: obj.Apply on IE doesn't handle nulls (1 comment) [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118356 (owner: Mwalker)
[21:28:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Adamw: "@Krinkle: you're right, this was fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118393/" [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118356 (owner: Mwalker)
[21:30:53] <slander>	 #1479: (AW) O:AW|TS:B|P:MH|TT:CT|IU:N|T:TT Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1479
[21:31:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Krinkle: "Ah, interesting. I got here via git blame, maybe I want back too far or have an outdated copy. Thanks!" [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/118356 (owner: Mwalker)
[21:31:53] <slander>	 #1479: (AW) TA:C -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1479
[21:31:58] <awight>	 Krinkle: hehe, yeah we like to workaround git blame and attribute really bad code to one another for fun :p
[22:35:20] <K4-713>	 Geeze, wait for mwalker|away to be on vacation and start beating up CentralNotice.
[22:35:57] <K4-713>	 I see how it is.
[22:48:51] <slander>	 #1328: (AW) N:Wlfsdlc Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1328
[22:48:52] <slander>	 #1328: (AW) TS:PCR -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1328
[22:49:14] <awight>	 mwalker|away: your "{}" was all fucked up.
[22:49:30] <awight>	 ;
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[23:30:52] <slander>	 #1479: (AW) N:cdwiat -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1479
[23:32:52] <slander>	 #998: (AW) Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/998
[23:34:51] <slander>	 #1455: (AW) TA:C|N:dcdnhse Description changed -- https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/online_fundraiser/cards/1455
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