[00:00:47] <mwalker>	 awight, great... jenkins is throwing stack traces
[00:00:59] <mwalker>	 I cant login...
[00:01:04] <awight>	 OH
[00:01:19] <awight>	 there is a disable switch in Drupal now
[00:01:47] <awight>	 done
[00:02:03] <mwalker>	 as in the sql is done?
[00:02:16] <awight>	 no i've disable QC in Drupal
[00:02:34] <mwalker>	 hah; we did that simulataneously then :p
[00:02:53] <awight>	 ok heh now the sql is done
[00:02:59] <awight>	 wanna hit the switch again?
[00:02:59] <mwalker>	 oh; and finally, on the fifth attempt jenkins lets me log in
[00:03:02] <mwalker>	 yepyep
[00:03:11] <awight>	 wow pls save a stack trace if you can
[00:03:26] <mwalker>	 well; it wasn't actually throwing a stack -- it was trying to
[00:03:29] <mwalker>	 but it was empty
[00:03:33] <mwalker>	 such complete fail
[00:03:47] * awight  flips Java the bird

[00:04:28] <awight>	 so erm to what do we owe the honor of all the funky credit cards?
[00:04:39] <awight>	 is WP public or something?
[00:04:45] <mwalker>	 nah; it was one of annes
[00:04:48] <awight>	 k
[00:04:53] <mwalker>	 and gahhhh
[00:05:05] <mwalker>	 I hate this practice of announcing releases on THURSDAYS!
[00:05:05] <awight>	 whaaat
[00:05:15] <awight>	 oh. Wat?
[00:05:29] <mwalker>	 Anne was trying a test donation after her amex failed to go through
[00:05:38] <mwalker>	 apparently she used a visa debit card
[00:05:52] <awight>	 what about releases, though?
[00:06:12] <mwalker>	 14 minutes ago: "I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki 1.22.6 and 1.21.9. This is a regular security and maintenance release. Download links are given at the end of this email. Please note there is no new release of the 1.19 branch, as it is not affected by the security issue."
[00:06:16] <awight>	 atgomez: u hippies and your alternative currencies!
[00:06:21] <awight>	 mwalker: oh dear.
[00:06:39] <atgomez>	 oh shit... did my amex turn into visa debit?
[00:06:39] <mwalker>	 because Markus thinks that a good release policy is; sometime on the last thursday of the month
[00:06:45] * mwalker  kicks walls

[00:07:05] <mwalker>	 atgomez, no; it was the visa you tried after the amex
[00:07:13] <atgomez>	 the visa went through
[00:07:24] <atgomez>	 ooh yeah. that's the one that made all the fail mails?
[00:07:36] <atgomez>	 just doing my part in QA over here ;)
[00:28:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ssmith: Set up node app and server [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129626
[00:30:46] <awight>	 awesome!
[00:38:47] <pizzzacat>	 :)
[00:44:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Mwalker: [C: 2 V: 2] Set up node app and server (1 comment) [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129626 (owner: Ssmith)
[00:47:10] <mwalker>	 !log updating payments servers from e6d188f0dfcd57406acb58aa2b5bf45e48117c33 to a7fa0d64da2c56586c83cf92babb65bac857be2e for worldpay
[00:47:17] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[00:53:16] <mwalker>	 atgomez, you dont happen to also have a discover and jcb card you could test with do you? :p
[00:53:40] <atgomez>	 mwalker no... does WP not have test cards?
[00:53:48] <mwalker>	 not real ones
[00:53:52] <atgomez>	 hmmm
[00:54:05] * mwalker  would love it if the foundation opened corporate accounts we could test with

[00:54:19] <atgomez>	 i _could_ ask about that...
[00:55:10] <mwalker>	 that would REALLY be amazing
[00:55:18] <mwalker>	 it is utterly impossible to test these damn things
[00:55:20] <atgomez>	 i'll dig. it may take some time. i may get nowhere
[00:55:24] <mwalker>	 when none of us have the cards :p
[00:57:56] <atgomez>	 mwalker we'd basically want to make small transactions, right?
[00:59:38] <mwalker>	 ya
[00:59:50] <mwalker>	 k4 and I's typical donation is between 1 and 2 dollars
[00:59:57] <mwalker>	 we vary the number of cents so that we stick out in the logs
[01:00:03] <atgomez>	 smart
[01:00:34] <atgomez>	 and... how many of these transactions do you think we'd run?
[01:00:37] <atgomez>	 weekly... perhaps
[01:00:57] <mwalker>	 hmm... let me look!
[01:01:02] <atgomez>	 ok!
[01:01:38] <awight>	 I wonder if there's a way we could let just one sacrificial actual donor having JCB get through, for example...
[01:03:42] <mwalker>	 atgomez, k4 and I made 51 donations since 2013-01-01 (16 so far this year)
[01:03:52] <atgomez>	 wow so it's... low
[01:04:00] <awight>	 yes, we need to test more :)
[01:04:08] <mwalker>	 awight, we could let a really small percentage through
[01:04:18] <mwalker>	 but... we don't know their card types before hand...
[01:04:19] <awight>	 totally.
[01:04:27] <mwalker>	 wonder what email address ppena uses
[01:04:31] <atgomez>	 so... would you consider it acceptable to say that we run tests to the tune of about $100/year?
[01:04:34] <awight>	 hehe if $we_suck
[01:06:53] <mwalker>	 ok; adding in pats and we've done 75 since jan 2013
[01:07:12] <atgomez>	 alright. i'm going to say we do about $100-200 annually
[01:08:48] <mwalker>	 yep; sounds about ribht
[01:08:55] <mwalker>	 I jsut added in megan and the-wub
[01:08:57] <mwalker>	 still under 100
[01:08:59] <mwalker>	 donations
[01:09:01] <atgomez>	 cool, thanks
[01:09:48] <mwalker>	 atgomez, ah; that was actually 359.68 USD of donations
[01:09:52] <atgomez>	 ahh
[01:09:53] <atgomez>	 hmm.. ok
[01:09:57] <atgomez>	 well.. we'll see
[01:10:22] <mwalker>	 ok; and in the meantime; I've apparently just been approved for a discover card
[01:10:31] <mwalker>	 but it'll take a week for them to get it to me
[01:10:45] <mwalker>	 the things I do for the foundation
[01:10:57] <atgomez>	 haha
[01:11:08] <atgomez>	 but... building credit...? or something?
[01:11:20] <mwalker>	 *shrugs* I've been meaning to get a backup card for a while
[01:11:27] <mwalker>	 but I was sorta wanting one that had a chip+pin on it
[01:11:33] <atgomez>	 fancy
[01:11:35] <mwalker>	 sadly... US companies just dont seem to get that
[01:11:40] <mwalker>	 because... they're dumb
[01:11:47] <atgomez>	 i believe fully in backup cards. sucks if you're traveling and something happens to one.
[01:12:01] <mwalker>	 aye
[01:12:11] <mwalker>	 discover though isn't exactly the best card for that...
[01:12:17] <atgomez>	 fair enough
[01:12:24] <atgomez>	 anyway, i'm off. see you kids tomorrow
[17:36:55] <awight>	 fwiw, I'm trapped at home by a hangout, until noon
[18:02:11] <K4-713>	 !log adjusted antifraud filters on payments
[18:02:18] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[18:13:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Mwalker: Send verification information in Sale API [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129722
[19:48:57] <awight>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/Queue_messages
[20:05:28] <atgomez>	 K4-713 inbox 3. i'm catching up
[20:06:23] <K4-713>	 You already caught me. I'm at 14 now.
[20:06:33] <K4-713>	 I've had zero, three times today.
[20:06:47] * K4-713  stares sullenly at boulder

[20:06:47] <awight>	 atgomez: erm thanks, you caused me to notice I had not replied-all
[20:34:51] <atgomez>	 awight are you around next wednesday?
[21:45:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ssmith: Set up app frameworks [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129829
[21:46:49] * pizzzacat  ducks

[21:55:29] <atgomez>	 pizzzacat1 mwalker K4-713 awight do you still want to chat database or was that covered in the chat this morning?
[21:56:36] <pizzzacat1>	 I think we should have an actual discussion personally
[22:04:31] <mwalker>	 when is that?
[22:08:30] <pizzzacat>	 mwalker you missed it
[22:08:39] <mwalker>	 ok
[22:08:43] <pizzzacat>	 we decided to make 4 new databases
[23:41:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Adamw: resolve spec sheet issues [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129091
[23:46:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Mwalker: WIP: WorldPay Multiple Accounts [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129855
[23:46:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] WIP: WorldPay Multiple Accounts [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129855 (owner: Mwalker)