[00:00:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182321 (owner: Awight)
[00:00:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182322 (owner: Awight)
[00:05:19] <mwalker|alt>	 *waves* I just came across a bug that I don't feel like emailing -- when you hit the X on the collapsed banner (e.g. you've scrolled down the page and it's just the small banner floating on top), the page scrolls up rather than just the floating div disappearing
[00:05:28] <mwalker|alt>	 also; hi! :)
[00:05:52] <awight>	 mwalker|alt: if you just donate, it goes away :p
[00:06:17] <mwalker|alt>	 I already donated 2.5 years of my life!
[00:06:30] <mwalker|alt>	 why cant you just leave me alone! :'(
[00:06:36] <awight>	 ah, that's the difference between slavery and indentured servitude
[00:06:43] <awight>	 it says on paper, u got paid
[00:06:56] <mwalker|alt>	 damnit -- didn't even get the free food
[00:07:18] <awight>	 does your new food just fly into your mouth
[00:07:41] <awight>	 hehe and good to see you here.  We'll be sure to introduce lots more Easter eggs next year, to get yr attention
[00:07:57] <mwalker|alt>	 nah; but if the large bay area companies could get away with it, they'd probably do intravenous feeding to keep you at your desk longer
[00:08:15] <mwalker|alt>	 oooh; the long promised easter eggs :)
[00:08:18] <mwalker|alt>	 I like snake!
[00:08:31] <mwalker|alt>	 have it move around the screen eating letters
[00:08:39] <awight>	 such a good game
[00:08:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS3) Ssmith: Move filters from modal & add save/preview [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182239
[00:10:03] <mwalker|alt>	 so; how goes the end of year crazy?
[00:10:40] <mwalker|alt>	 oh, also, if you want -- I've invited peoples over to mine for snacks tomorrow before a group movement to the embarcadero to see the fireworks
[00:12:39] <awight>	 haha "snack before a group movement" sounds like an interesting euphemism
[00:12:50] <awight>	 the year has only gotten crazier, so far
[00:13:24] <mwalker|alt>	 *facepalm*
[00:13:47] <mwalker|alt>	 new meanings to punch bowl
[00:14:19] <awight>	 pun'raising
[00:14:30] <awight>	 actually pizzzacat is supposed to handle those inquiries
[00:15:32] <mwalker|alt>	 sadly she's ignoring IRC
[00:17:03] <awight>	 she's in the matrix.  U may have heard, a year later we deployed whatever pizzzacat has been working on.
[00:17:08] <awight>	 it's freaking awesome.
[00:17:22] <awight>	 and there is this constant grinding noise coming from her cube.
[00:17:22] <pizzzacat>	 oh hi
[00:17:29] <pizzzacat>	 haa
[00:17:33] <mwalker|alt>	 I did; and I saw it when I was over disrupting all y'all's productivity :)
[00:17:41] <pizzzacat>	 I am decidedly anti-social on NYE every year
[00:17:45] <pizzzacat>	 :(
[00:17:55] <mwalker|alt>	 laaaaaame
[00:17:59] <pizzzacat>	 I dress up and make cocktails at home and watch fireworks on tv.
[00:18:07] <awight>	 yeah, sorry about the timing Dec 2.  We didn't know when we would start the campaign, either :p
[00:18:34] <atgo>	 mwalker|alt: hi!!
[00:18:46] <mwalker|alt>	 hurrro :)
[00:19:10] <atgo>	 that is a bug...
[00:19:22] <awight>	 Desperate plea: anyone else have this problem, where sometimes gateway.css is not pulled in by ResourceLoader?
[00:19:24] <atgo>	 that's the-wub's territory and i'd guess he's asleep
[00:19:57] <mwalker|alt>	 awight: I never saw that -- but... I suspect things have changed a tiny bit since I last tested DI
[00:20:35] <awight>	 atgo: nah, this is stuff we inherited from the-wub
[00:20:47] <atgo>	 what do you mean?
[00:20:56] <atgo>	 (i was talking about mwalker|alt 's bug report)
[00:21:31] <awight>	 atgo: ohwow right
[00:21:53] <atgo>	 passed it along :)
[00:24:02] <mwalker|alt>	 the tiny percentage of people futilely clicking on the "dear god go away" button thank you :)
[00:24:40] <awight>	 mwalker|alt: hah, the stinger with that sticky banner is that the close box doesn't set cookies.
[00:25:12] <mwalker|alt>	 ahah; you bastards!
[00:25:25] <mwalker|alt>	 not even a session cookie?
[00:27:08] <awight>	 fuck that, eh?
[00:27:32] <awight>	 re: answering my plea, it's something broken about RL's position=top
[00:27:35] <awight>	 wheee
[00:28:11] * mwalker|alt tries to come up with a joke about RL preferring bottom
[00:29:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182329
[00:31:48] <awight>	 mwalker|alt: that parameter might plug in here, http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/07/good2go_shuts_down_apple_says_no_to_the_consensual_sex_app.html
[00:32:20] <mwalker|alt>	 atgo: I just thought of you (connection being your copy of Cosmic Encounter) -- I got a new board game for xmas called SpaceTruckers -- you have to create a spaceship out of junk; and then watch it get blasted to pieces -- it's super fun, you should get it for the office
[00:32:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182329 (owner: Awight)
[00:32:51] <atgo>	 ooooh mwalker|alt
[00:33:33] <atgo>	 galaxy trucker per chance?
[00:33:40] <atgo>	 http://smile.amazon.com/Rio-Grande-Games-A08-Trucker/dp/B000XLU8H6?sa-no-redirect=1
[00:33:43] <mwalker|alt>	 ah; yes
[00:33:45] <mwalker|alt>	 that one
[00:33:54] <atgo>	 intriiiguing
[00:34:09] <mwalker|alt>	 it has a bunch of expansions too
[00:34:21] <mwalker|alt>	 awight; that is a horrifying app
[00:49:40] <awight>	 !log updated payments from e81f473acc5b31b49dd27714c40f9b71c3462e26 to 78b72063e4e0cc76b7e168be1e626d5e10e34d4a
[00:49:51] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[00:55:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: Correct bad conflict resolution [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182331
[00:56:16] <awight>	 ejegg: K4-713 ^^ if you have electricity and stuff
[00:57:05] <awight>	 nbd otherwise, it's just CSS, currently some fields are the wrong size
[01:02:07] <awight>	 pizz... a
[01:32:08] <awight>	 ejegg: https://payments.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Special:WorldPayGateway&appeal=JimmyQuote&ffname=worldpay&uselang=en&language=he&currency_code=USD&country=IL&amount=3&amountGiven=&payment_method=cc&referrer=&returnto=Thank_You%2Fen&utm_campaign=spontaneous&utm_key=&utm_medium=spontaneous&utm_source=fr-redir.default~default~default~default~control.cc&debug=true&recurring=0
[01:32:16] <awight>	 I'm not getting the cvv tooltip...
[01:33:39] <ejegg>	 sorry, not at computer right now.  lemme xhexk that in a sec
[01:33:46] <awight>	 no worries
[01:34:08] <awight>	 I'll do the basic debugging (i.e., did I actually deploy it)
[01:41:11] <awight>	 ejegg: fwiw, I can confirm the code is deployed, but in my browser the document.ready callback in worldpay.js is not invoked, afaict.
[01:45:49] <ejegg>	 ok, back at a real keyboard & taking a look
[01:46:39] <awight>	 thanks!
[01:46:50] <awight>	 although: 9pm!
[01:48:06] <ejegg>	 ah, debug=true still breaks payments, right?
[01:48:32] <ejegg>	 yep, works with no debug :P
[01:48:47] <awight>	 ooomg
[01:48:52] <ejegg>	 hehe
[01:48:54] <awight>	 thanks :)
[01:49:12] <K4-713>	 Hmmmm...
[01:49:19] <K4-713>	 https://payments.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Special:GlobalCollectGateway&appeal=JimmyQuote&ffname=obt-bpay&recurring=&payment_method=obt.bpay&utm_source=fr-redir.default~default~default~default~control.obt.bpay&utm_medium=spontaneous&utm_campaign=spontaneous&utm_key=&referrer=&language=en&country=AU&returnto=Thank_You%2Fen&amountGiven=&currency_code=AUD&frequency=onetime&amount=5&uselang=en
[01:49:29] <ejegg>	 Would be nice if it /didn't/ break payments...
[01:49:55] <ejegg>	 oh, that's that green not going out to the edge any more, huh?
[01:49:57] <awight>	 K4-713: yuck
[01:50:21] <ejegg>	 dang, didn't think to check it on that form
[01:50:38] <awight>	 I don't think that's the green hack... bisecting locally to check...
[01:51:05] <K4-713>	 atgo: You probably want to know about this too.
[01:51:32] <atgo>	 ahh yeah.. that looks weird.
[01:51:38] <atgo>	 is that with the new css?
[01:51:53] <K4-713>	 Well, something about the css changes we've been making, yes.
[01:51:58] <atgo>	 i feel like i saw this at one point
[01:52:01] <atgo>	 and then it went away
[01:52:03] <K4-713>	 Really?
[01:52:04] <atgo>	 and now it's back
[01:52:11] <atgo>	 yeah... if i wasn't losing my mind
[01:52:15] <K4-713>	 ha
[01:52:27] <awight>	 K4-713: ejegg it wasn't the green hack, it's been there a few weeks
[01:52:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Katie Horn: [C: 2] Correct bad conflict resolution [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182331 (owner: Awight)
[01:52:37] <atgo>	 what's this green hack?
[01:52:48] <K4-713>	 I'm not even sure what you mean by "the green hack" either. :)
[01:54:22] <awight>	 K4-713: ejegg: that form broke here, 91cedc492dc9158b3cb1ee96a0055bbf9a880b67
[01:54:24] <ejegg>	 I thought maybe it was 90a54e5329eb60016079f39172cebbd209554b4e, 'Prevent background color from bleeding to right margin'
[01:55:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182338
[01:55:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182338 (owner: Awight)
[01:57:03] <atgo>	 K4-713: did donor's report this?
[01:57:09] <K4-713>	 Nope.
[01:57:59] <K4-713>	 I was looking at something awight was doing in cc forms and wanted to check a non-cc form for weird things, and found that some were already there.
[01:58:29] <K4-713>	 Also, it's good to note that we can be *this* messed up and not hear a peep.
[01:59:06] <ejegg>	 possible fix: gateway.css l 133, change width to min-width
[01:59:16] <ejegg>	 doesn't /seem/ to break anything else
[01:59:21] <K4-713>	 heh
[01:59:34] <K4-713>	 I'm going to bounce around and check some other forms...
[02:00:32] <atgo>	 while we're actively running in that country
[02:02:18] <awight>	 atgo: seems that this form has been messed up since Dec 18
[02:03:33] <awight>	 !log updated payments from 78b72063e4e0cc76b7e168be1e626d5e10e34d4a to 62c81d4574e5e994ff8f3cac7115eff335bd5265
[02:03:42] <morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[02:04:59] <awight>	 ejegg: that looks like a good fix.  u making the patch?
[02:05:42] <ejegg>	 will do
[02:07:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Fix green box width on some forms [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182339
[02:07:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] Fix green box width on some forms [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182339 (owner: Ejegg)
[02:07:32] <K4-713>	 Heh. This is weird, too:
[02:07:32] <K4-713>	 https://payments.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Special:GlobalCollectGateway&appeal=JimmyQuote&ffname=ew-webmoney&recurring=&country=FI
[02:07:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Fix green box width on some forms [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182339 (owner: Ejegg)
[02:08:26] <atgo>	 weird
[02:08:27] <ejegg>	 couple of them inputs are skipping gym class
[02:08:41] <atgo>	 sigh
[02:08:57] <K4-713>	 heh... nerdy inputs. :)
[02:09:12] <K4-713>	 Knowing not a lot about how we did the style update, it's funny that not everything even tries to inherit the new stuff.
[02:09:19] <K4-713>	 I thought we were a little more... uniform.
[02:09:22] <K4-713>	 For some reason.
[02:09:40] <atgo>	 K4-713: that second form complains about about needing to enter a donation amount, which isn't possible.
[02:09:47] <K4-713>	 Yes.
[02:09:51] <K4-713>	 This is totally normal.
[02:09:53] <atgo>	 hm
[02:09:55] <awight>	 While we're debugging, anyone want to kick this 4 me?  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/181520/
[02:09:59] <K4-713>	 There isn't an amount from donate wiki.
[02:10:05] <atgo>	 yeah
[02:10:12] <atgo>	 we should.. change that error or something
[02:10:20] <K4-713>	 Well... here's the thing.
[02:10:29] <K4-713>	 That's still what's actually wrong.
[02:10:30] <ejegg>	 oh cool, inputs without a 'type' default to text, except for the css.
[02:10:33] <K4-713>	 What would we change it to?
[02:10:55] <atgo>	 something like a link back to donate or something
[02:10:55] <awight>	 ejegg: yuck!
[02:11:00] <atgo>	 the donor can't do anything with this
[02:11:10] <atgo>	 anyway, a problem for another day
[02:11:11] <K4-713>	 The donor should never be able to get to this.
[02:11:14] <awight>	 atgo: it's supposed to... never happen
[02:11:24] <atgo>	 but does it happen?
[02:11:28] <K4-713>	 Unless they're doing some exploratory fuzzing, in which case...
[02:11:41] <K4-713>	 ...they're either one of us, or somebody who needs to calm down.
[02:11:50] <K4-713>	 Anyway, the thing is I agree with you. :)
[02:12:00] <K4-713>	 There should be a way to recover people who get to this place.
[02:12:15] <awight>	 along with, change yr currency and billing address country, etc
[02:12:16] <K4-713>	 But, since that's basically nobody ever, who isn't trying to pull a fast one...
[02:12:38] <K4-713>	 Well, billing country is totally arguable.
[02:13:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: Fix green box width on some forms [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182341
[02:13:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] Fix green box width on some forms [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182341 (owner: Awight)
[02:13:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Fix green box width on some forms [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182341 (owner: Awight)
[02:13:59] <atgo>	 hokay
[02:14:04] <awight>	 K4-713: yeah that one worries me.  There's another example of it potentially becoming an issue, with AstroPay.  I'm waiting to hear if the country can be changed from their workflow...
[02:14:25] <K4-713>	 huh
[02:14:50] <atgo>	 awight K4-713 ejegg did any of you check out the WP hebrew/IL form on mobile?
[02:14:55] <atgo>	 it's doing weird things for me
[02:14:58] <awight>	 atgo: no, only desktop
[02:15:02] <awight>	 ok looking now
[02:15:12] <K4-713>	 Yeah, I didn't.
[02:15:30] <atgo>	 just sent a screenshot for mine
[02:15:30] <ejegg>	 cool, only 151 inputs in DI missing a 'type' attribute...
[02:15:50] <atgo>	 i can't get it to be useful
[02:16:12] <awight>	 ejegg: nooo.  maybe there's a selector for "missing 'type' attribute"
[02:17:07] <ejegg>	 input:not([type])
[02:17:09] <awight>	 maybe :not([type])
[02:17:11] <ejegg>	 awesome idea!
[02:17:14] <awight>	 hehe
[02:18:38] <atgo>	 K4-713 ejegg awight before we get too far on debugging mobile, let me check with megan and jessica that they're even going to run on mobile in israel
[02:19:12] <K4-713>	 okay
[02:19:15] * K4-713 blinks
[02:19:15] <K4-713>	 https://payments.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Special:GlobalCollectGateway&appeal=JimmyQuote&ffname=rtbt-sofo-GB&recurring=&country=GB
[02:19:55] <K4-713>	 It's like... a spooky ghost form.
[02:20:07] * awight curses about documentation for the magic URL param to force mobile view
[02:20:25] <ejegg>	 useformat=mobile?
[02:20:29] <awight>	 ejegg: thanks!
[02:20:47] <awight>	 K4-713: I do appreciate the text right below these janky forms: "where your donation goes: technology"
[02:20:48] <ejegg>	 er, maybe not
[02:21:05] <awight>	 ejegg: no, I think that's it!
[02:21:20] <awight>	 hmm
[02:21:24] <ejegg>	 oh, we don't have mobile frontend on payments at all, do we?
[02:21:28] <K4-713>	 awight: Can we maybe put a HR straight through that statement? :D
[02:21:33] <ejegg>	 I think it's all css screen width queries
[02:22:24] <awight>	 ejegg: payments has no Extension:MobileFrontend
[02:22:48] <K4-713>	 awight: Are you trying to test mobile on payments without a device?
[02:23:19] <K4-713>	 Because I think the way we do that now is "resize your window".
[02:23:21] <K4-713>	 :|
[02:23:59] <K4-713>	 Or, ah... borrow somebody's phone.
[02:24:02] <atgo>	 WP isn't great on mobile
[02:24:39] * awight hits rabbit ears
[02:25:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182343
[02:26:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Style inputs missing 'type' like text inputs [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182344
[02:26:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182343 (owner: Awight)
[02:29:28] <ejegg>	 ok cats, i'm out for the night.  Will be on for a little bit tomorrow.
[02:30:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] "Hey, this works! TODO: Looks like the same thing occurs elsewhere, such as worldpay.css." [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182344 (owner: Ejegg)
[02:30:30] <awight>	 ejegg|away: thanks!
[02:30:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Style inputs missing 'type' like text inputs [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182344 (owner: Ejegg)
[02:34:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: Style inputs missing 'type' like text inputs [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182345
[02:34:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] Style inputs missing 'type' like text inputs [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182345 (owner: Awight)
[02:34:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Style inputs missing 'type' like text inputs [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182345 (owner: Awight)
[02:35:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Awight: update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182343
[02:36:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182343 (owner: Awight)
[02:36:26] <atgo>	 so awight K4-713 the Israel forms are ok to donate?
[02:38:01] <awight>	 atgo: I don't understand the screenshot--some fields are LTR?
[02:38:07] <atgo>	 they don't fit on the screen
[02:38:11] <awight>	 ooh hah
[02:38:26] <awight>	 right, lemme disable fancy cropwork
[02:39:50] <K4-713>	 Ah, I... think I need to go let this monster headache have its way. :/
[02:39:58] <atgo>	 yeah, let's not worry about mobile for now
[02:40:37] <atgo>	 and feel better K4-713!
[02:40:40] * K4-713 hides eyeballs under many soft things
[02:40:59] <awight>	 atgo: yeah the responsiveness is all jacked.  it fails at lots of screen widths
[02:41:02] <awight>	 I'll make a card
[02:41:14] <atgo>	 i just made one in phab
[02:41:20] <atgo>	 so, don't worry about it
[02:41:39] <awight>	 atgo: tell me more about what u just said...
[02:41:46] <awight>	 that's where we make cards now
[02:41:48] <awight>	 ?
[02:42:06] <atgo>	 i don't picture us getting to this before the next sprint, which is when i'm hoping to have stuff figured out over there
[02:42:12] <atgo>	 i don't think it's urgent
[02:42:23] <atgo>	 keep on in mingle for the next few days.. still figuring things out
[02:42:26] <atgo>	 k?
[02:42:28] <awight>	 what was your decision wrt migrating old cards
[02:42:48] * awight feigns serious-face
[02:42:57] <atgo>	 :P
[02:43:00] <atgo>	 i still don't think we need to?
[02:43:09] <atgo>	 here's what i'm picturing
[02:43:17] <atgo>	 1 - get weekly sprints over there
[02:43:40] <atgo>	 2 - start to build out backlogs intentionally with the highest priority things
[02:44:04] <atgo>	 and make sure that each of the tasks that goes in there is described enough to be readable if we don't get to it for like... a while
[02:44:32] <atgo>	 awight: did you try to donate through the hebrew/israel form?
[02:44:33] <awight>	 the old "manual migration" strategy, eh
[02:44:47] <awight>	 atgo: not today, I can though
[02:45:00] <atgo>	 yeah it's not working for me, but i think i might be getting stuck with IP velocity
[02:45:03] <atgo>	 i can wait like 15 and try again
[02:45:16] <awight>	 Just have to figure out which of my שם is משפחה
[02:45:40] <atgo>	 well.. depending on how it goes, maybe make some tags and migrate? but i think it's worth reevaluating priority, estimates, etc. before anything ends up in there
[02:46:51] <awight>	 noble intentions :p
[02:49:15] <awight>	 atgo: could not be accepted.  ok I'm looking in the logs...
[02:49:29] <atgo>	 hm.. ok
[02:49:33] <atgo>	 we can fix it tomorrow if we need to
[02:50:26] <awight>	 atgo: do you know when IL is planned?  I don't see anything in the testing calendar
[02:50:34] <atgo>	 sometime in january
[02:50:37] <awight>	 k
[02:51:06] <atgo>	 i'm working with megan and jessica on that... aiming for a test next week, but we can postpone if (for example) worldpay is slow getting back to us :)
[02:51:32] * awight claws at the saltpeter-encrusted walls
[02:53:03] <awight>	 atgo: here's something we should spring on K--- when she's back to life.  What if the "your transaction could not be accepted" page included the contribution tracking ID, for donor services and debugging convenience?
[02:53:21] <atgo>	 yeah that would be cool...
[02:53:40] <atgo>	 even cooler: a mailto link that had that in the subject or body automatically
[02:53:57] <atgo>	 scuse me - automagically
[02:56:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: log which transaction we're about to initiate [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182349
[02:56:21] <awight>	 atgo: yes, rad
[02:56:23] <awight>	 both
[02:59:51] <atgo>	 cool, noted :)
[03:00:06] <atgo>	 i think i'm really going to like phabricator.. it's going to make keeping track of this stuff so much easier
[03:01:09] <awight>	 yes, the new cutco set really beats the crap out of this handy stone we've been using to slice n dice until now.
[03:01:19] <awight>	 we should have a Mingle send-off pyre
[03:02:20] <atgo>	 hehehe
[03:02:37] <awight>	 atgo: the IL failure is partly cos we have US-issued cards, and they require AVS checks
[03:02:52] <atgo>	 hm...
[03:03:02] <awight>	 but even more so, I'm seeing the same CVV failure as... maybe GB... lemme check
[03:03:53] <atgo>	 hmmm
[03:04:03] <atgo>	 because you'd think that we wouldn't require it on countries where we don't... require it
[03:05:52] <awight>	 I don't actually know if we can tell that the card should have AVS applied; I'm hoping that's a processor responsiblity.
[03:06:20] <awight>	 sort of one of those things I should know after 2 years
[03:07:34] <awight>	 atgo: but yeah, if you get bored: select * from payments_fraud_breakdown where payments_fraud_id=1753091;
[03:07:58] <atgo>	 well it seems like something we'll have to work out if we're going to use WP
[03:08:00] <atgo>	 in the.. world.
[03:08:25] <awight>	 atgo: okay, this is what I was remembering.  Please see the email "Fwd: WMF follow up questions
[03:08:35] <awight>	 item (4)
[03:09:41] <awight>	 Just to perpetuate the trope, lemme add that this is part of the maintenance iceberg I am expecting we face with WP
[03:10:01] <atgo>	 sent you the MID separately for israel.. sorry about that :/
[03:10:07] <atgo>	 yeah
[03:10:44] <awight>	 gotta change a poop :) one moment, please
[03:12:03] <awight>	 atgo: I don't think MID could be involved
[03:12:09] <atgo>	 oh ok
[03:13:29] <awight>	 they have an error for that, is all
[03:17:40] <atgo>	 alright :)
[03:17:56] <awight>	 atgo: creepy, I found your transaction and you got an "invalid merchant account" error
[03:18:05] <atgo>	 isn't that related to MID?
[03:18:09] <awight>	 mine didn't use the IL MID cos I was using USD
[03:18:14] <awight>	 atgo: yeah, definitely is
[03:18:35] <awight>	 atgo: did you happen to see my humorous expose' in the email to WorldPay?
[03:18:45] <awight>	 There seems to be confusion about MID vs Store ID
[03:18:49] <atgo>	 oh yeah
[03:19:16] <awight>	 like, two of their people told us opposite things
[03:22:50] <atgo>	 yeah
[03:22:52] <atgo>	 that'll happen
[03:23:07] <atgo>	 anywho, i'm going to log off for the night
[03:23:08] <atgo>	 ciao
[03:25:18] <awight>	 kbye!
[17:23:40] <the-wub>	 https://twitter.com/sixthformpoet/status/550339420449415168
[17:39:33] <atgo>	 hey awight K4-713 ejegg|away pizzzacat - we do need mobile looking good for Israel
[17:42:36] <K4-713>	 atgo: Does that mean getting the new mobile-friendly GC styles applied to WP?
[17:43:26] <atgo>	 probably not... let's start with getting the fields to show entirely on the screen
[17:43:39] <atgo>	 for mine it's clipping and i can't side scroll at all... maybe it's just me?
[17:44:07] <K4-713>	 We should probably find out from somebody who does mobile, if they have a better way to test these things.
[17:44:18] <K4-713>	 You know, than... using our own personal devices.
[17:45:16] <atgo>	 yeah. in past mobile projects not at WMF, this is also what we did (plus extra devices)
[17:45:31] <atgo>	 K4-713: have you looked at it on your phone?
[17:45:45] <K4-713>	 I sure haven't.
[17:45:55] <atgo>	 hmm ok
[17:45:59] <atgo>	 i'm making a card
[17:46:01] <K4-713>	 Does that browsertesting account we have do anything with mobile?
[17:46:05] <atgo>	 i don't know
[17:48:27] <awight>	 atgo: wait--we should go ahead and fix WP mobile, but there are bigger problems with running the IL test
[17:48:36] <atgo>	 yeah i know :)
[17:48:39] <awight>	 ok then
[17:48:45] <atgo>	 making a card for that one too
[17:48:55] <awight>	 K4-713: yesterday, we discovered "invalid merchant account number" for WP IL
[17:50:43] <K4-713>	 awight: Yeah, I saw some of that. Usually that means they haven't turned on the account for that combo.
[17:50:59] <K4-713>	 But good luck trying to convince them that's the case.
[17:52:33] <awight>	 it's despicable
[17:53:10] <K4-713>	 Is it? I mean, when did we tell them we were going to do this?
[17:53:15] <atgo>	 2319 and 2320
[17:53:52] <K4-713>	 I still don't know why on Earth they gave us all the "StoreID" combinations if most of them weren't activated.
[17:55:34] <K4-713>	 I mean, I guess it was beneficial in that we got to go "WOW, that's a crazy load of StoreIDs... how are we going to handle this?!?" but not so great in that we got the sense that everything was, you know... in place.
[18:01:15] <awight>	 Why are any of these combinations inactive?  Has anyone tried to tell them to turn all the lights on for us?
[18:05:00] <awight>	 Anyway, I'm going to turn into a muffin very soon.
[18:05:06] <awight>	 Lemme update the FR calendar...
[18:05:40] <K4-713>	 awight: In order: I don't actually remember much / wasn't copied in everything from the first round with them (and I strongly suspect that they don't remember anything ever), and I have no idea.
[18:06:28] <awight>	 I just remember it being a surprise that the lights weren't already on.  So I have about the same number of clues as anyone.
[18:06:28] <K4-713>	 Judging from past interactions, though, they seem to stick to a two-step process in which we test things on their test accounts, tell them it seems fine, and then they flip individual switches for prod.
[18:07:02] <K4-713>	 Which is... you know, awkward when nobody in the office *has* a card issued from the place we're trying to enable.
[18:07:17] <K4-713>	 Which should be, like, most of the places.
[18:07:37] <K4-713>	 All of the places aside from the US, actually.
[18:07:53] <awight>	 ah.  okay that's a process I should have used to enable IL, then
[18:08:08] <K4-713>	 Well, they never actually *said* that was the process.
[18:08:11] <awight>	 and yeah, we need test card numbers for all the places
[18:08:16] <K4-713>	 I'm mostly spitballing here.
[18:08:20] * awight greens
[18:09:22] <awight>	 Well as fun as that sounds, I think I need to wait until Monday to do anything useful
[18:09:35] <K4-713>	 This is all based on the vague perception I have that they... personally throw exceptions, halt and catch fire when we say we didn't bother trying to run anything on the test system.
[18:09:55] <K4-713>	 And when I put it that way, it almost seems like a reasonable reaction.
[18:09:59] <awight>	 That actually seems reasonable
[18:09:59] <awight>	 yeah
[18:11:57] <awight>	 On that note, sorry for not giving notice but I need to go underground for the weekeeeeend
[18:12:38] <awight>	 lmk if there is anything I should unlick / explain my illogic, etc
[18:13:14] <atgo>	 have a good long weekend awight :)
[18:16:00] <awight>	 kind of crazy.  I didn't even imagine people would be shivering in the office today
[18:16:40] <atgo>	 K4-713 awight - to ease your long weekends, there will be no banners running at all tomorrow - sunday
[18:17:09] <awight>	 good to hear
[18:17:14] <K4-713>	 YAY
[18:17:18] <atgo>	 ejegg|away: ^
[18:17:33] <atgo>	 low level will go back up monday :)
[18:17:52] <the-wub>	 hooray :)
[18:18:43] <atgo>	 hi the-wub!
[18:18:48] <atgo>	 happy new year :)
[18:19:14] <the-wub>	 same to you atgo! :)
[18:22:14] <awight>	 Meanwhile, I think our banner is going to be permanently burned into the ocular nerves of anyone who reads on the internet, today
[18:22:46] <awight>	 We should at least enable the screensaver mode :p
[18:23:44] <K4-713>	 Oy.
[18:24:03] <K4-713>	 Well... at least nobody is staring at me?
[18:24:27] <awight>	 Jimmy needs like 20 bucks still
[18:24:41] <awight>	 but he lives on another block now
[18:26:58] <awight>	 AuldLangTraceur is starting his recollecting early
[18:27:10] <AuldLangTraceur>	 GlobalRecollect
[18:28:40] <awight>	 shit, he's a replicant!
[18:31:27] <awight>	 globalcollect is definitely one of those things that makes me wish memories could be surgically removed
[18:32:42] <awight>	 ejegg|away: hehe jslint is voting for the dash repo now
[18:35:28] * awight looks around for any more hot-button, alienating topics
[18:35:32] <awight>	 well my work here is done
[18:46:10] <K4-713>	 AuldLangTraceur: Ha.
[18:52:25] <atgo>	 hey K4-713 we have checkin at 11... but my friends are coming to pick up their dog like nowish. can i just ping you when they're gone?
[18:52:36] <K4-713>	 atgo: Sure.
[18:52:55] <K4-713>	 That'll give me time to re-coffee.
[19:06:37] <atgo>	 K4-713: ping
[19:06:48] <K4-713>	 yep
[19:07:25] <atgo>	 brb
[19:07:25] <atgo>	 landlad
[19:18:45] <atgo>	 ok i'm in the hangout K4-713
[19:18:54] <K4-713>	 heh, brt
[20:24:59] <the-wub>	 okay, I'm heading out. have a good rest of 2014 everyone and I'll see you next year! :)