[11:00:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS3) AndyRussG: Remove defaults for choices in test fixtures [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182695
[13:34:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (Abandoned) Hashar: Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT) [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181251 (owner: Hashar)
[15:54:54] <cmjohnson1>	 fyi: I am updating several hosts
[19:00:59] * K4-713 waves at everybody
[19:01:10] * pizzzacat2 waves
[19:01:22] <K4-713>	 pizzzacat: Hey, what up?
[19:01:43] <pizzzacat>	 hey! not much… can't log in to mediawiki.org though, which is fun and exciting and new
[19:29:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS4) Awight: Remove defaults for choices in test fixtures [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182695 (owner: AndyRussG)
[19:31:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Katie Horn: [C: 2] log which transaction we're about to initiate [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182349 (owner: Awight)
[19:33:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: log which transaction we're about to initiate [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182349 (owner: Awight)
[19:39:04] <K4-713>	 ejegg: Heya. yt?
[19:39:10] <ejegg>	 hello
[19:39:21] <K4-713>	 Hey, happy new year.
[19:39:38] <ejegg>	 And happy new year to you!
[19:40:01] <ejegg>	 How's it going?
[19:40:52] <K4-713>	 Oh, you know. Sick for weeks, and pretty much only remembered how to relax yesterday. Not... the best vacation ever.
[19:40:57] <K4-713>	 But.
[19:41:30] <K4-713>	 At least I'm no longer in the middle of having some kind of flu situation. How about you?
[19:41:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: -1] "The only blocker is that overloading the meaning of campaign.start & .end doesn't seem like a good idea, see the inline comment." (2 comments) [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182695 (owner: AndyRussG)
[19:42:06] <ejegg>	 doing pretty well
[19:42:33] <ejegg>	 if a bit scatterbrained
[19:42:41] <K4-713>	 Yeesh. I hear that.
[19:42:51] <K4-713>	 Did I miss anything exciting over the last couple weeks?
[19:42:52] <atgo_>	 my brain is congested. :P
[19:43:21] <K4-713>	 Any... revelations about new GC integrations being unexpectedly odd?
[19:43:27] <K4-713>	 I'm particularly interested in those.
[19:43:48] <ejegg>	 Oh shoot, I really need to push that Ali stuff for review
[19:44:00] <K4-713>	 orly
[19:44:06] <ejegg>	 It was really trivial
[19:44:15] * K4-713 grins like a maniac
[19:44:22] <K4-713>	 Wonderful.
[19:44:35] <atgo>	 yay!!
[19:44:47] <K4-713>	 We should blast that one out as soon as possible.
[19:44:50] <ejegg>	 nothing odd except that ali always shows CNY and EUR to the end user
[19:45:01] <ejegg>	 even though they'll pay us out in USD
[19:45:12] <K4-713>	 That's basically normal, I think.
[19:45:16] <ejegg>	 Cool
[19:45:48] <K4-713>	 I think we sometimes settle some things in EUR, but I have... some kind of mental block about what/when.
[19:46:32] <K4-713>	 It's just on the other side of one of those bright, thick lines around what my job is, and what other people's jobs are. I think that's what's going on there.
[19:46:45] <K4-713>	 If somebody convinced me it was my job to remember, I would.
[19:47:07] <ejegg>	 heh
[19:47:14] <awight>	 https://office.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Staff_handbook%2FBenefits&diff=126365&oldid=126119
[19:47:25] * K4-713 squints
[19:47:56] <K4-713>	 uhh
[19:47:59] <awight>	 that was bools---, man
[19:49:22] <K4-713>	 I don't even understand why the original was...
[19:49:26] * K4-713 shakes self
[19:49:32] <K4-713>	 There's another one of those bright lines.
[19:49:36] <K4-713>	 I like my lines.
[19:49:56] <awight>	 youch
[19:50:37] <K4-713>	 But, you should know that I fully support your endeavors.
[19:50:46] <K4-713>	 That... is on this side of one of my lines.
[19:51:20] <ejegg>	 atgo: why didn't you tell us Honey was in The Interview? http://www.flixist.com/ul/218734-why-did-it-have-to-be-the-interview-/the-interview-the-guys-with-a-dog-620x.jpghttp://www.flixist.com/ul/218734-why-did-it-have-to-be-the-interview-/the-interview-the-guys-with-a-dog-620x.jpg
[19:51:29] <ejegg>	 bah
[19:51:43] <ejegg>	 http://www.flixist.com/ul/218734-why-did-it-have-to-be-the-interview-/the-interview-the-guys-with-a-dog-620x.jpg
[19:52:07] <K4-713>	 omg
[19:52:19] <K4-713>	 That stoner dude is stealing your dog.
[19:55:00] <awight>	 Careful, we're protecting Honey from alleged hacking
[19:55:40] <awight>	 I have important anonymous sources that told me, without a doubt the dog was in charge of recent publicity stunts
[19:59:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Awight: Use mw.Uri in bannerController to allow ugly URLs [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182074 (owner: AndyRussG)
[19:59:51] <K4-713>	 Uhh...
[20:00:09] <K4-713>	 There's a job in jenkins that's been running for four days.
[20:00:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS4) Ssmith: Move filters from modal & add save/preview [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182239
[20:01:34] <awight>	 K4-713: Isn't that exactly Jenkins's MTBF?
[20:02:29] <K4-713>	 I'm putting a three hour timeout fail on this bad boy.
[20:02:40] <K4-713>	 Longest actual run was nearly two.
[20:02:47] <K4-713>	 ...it's the silverpop exporter.
[20:03:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] "Definitely would be better to fix this at the configuration level, just supply the desktop URL for metawiki, right? But the change seems " [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182074 (owner: AndyRussG)
[20:03:44] <awight>	 K4-713: oooh.  I'll look at where it got hung up
[20:03:59] <K4-713>	 It may be hanging again.
[20:04:05] <K4-713>	 There was another build waiting to go.
[20:04:10] <K4-713>	 Want me to kill that one too?
[20:04:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Use mw.Uri in bannerController to allow ugly URLs [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182074 (owner: AndyRussG)
[20:04:28] <awight>	 looking...
[20:04:33] <K4-713>	 k
[20:04:38] <K4-713>	 I'll leave it alone now, then.
[20:04:56] <awight>	 ejegg|brb: uh, oh: Unknown table 'temp_silverpop_export_dedupe_email'
[20:06:33] <K4-713>	 Wait. If it's temp, shouldn't it not be there?
[20:06:39] <K4-713>	 You know: sometimes?
[20:06:53] <awight>	 It's supposed to be linked to the db session
[20:07:08] <K4-713>	 Oho.
[20:07:24] <awight>	 doesn't look healthy...
[20:07:28] <K4-713>	 Nope.
[20:07:32] <K4-713>	 Killing this one too.
[20:07:38] <awight>	 ok let's disable thx!
[20:07:41] <K4-713>	 yep
[20:07:47] <K4-713>	 Disabled.
[20:07:52] <K4-713>	 I'll let people know.
[20:08:01] <ejegg>	 oh, that's very strange
[20:08:11] <awight>	 it's been that way for a long time, it seems
[20:08:27] <awight>	 also, that query it hung on usually takes 3 min.  So this must be a deadlock?
[20:08:41] <K4-713>	 31st looked clean.
[20:09:01] <awight>	 It still had all the "unknown table" errors
[20:09:04] <K4-713>	 ...based on the fact that it completed.
[20:09:08] <K4-713>	 Hurm.
[20:09:17] <awight>	 I have no idea why that would be a "warning"
[20:09:23] <awight>	 OOH sorry
[20:09:31] <awight>	 false alarm.  Those are "drop if exists" queries
[20:11:01] <awight>	 I don't see why this would have hit a deadlock, actually...  it's only operating on a temp table, and the geonames table, which AFAIK isn't used by anything else.
[20:11:16] <awight>	 y2k?
[20:11:49] <awight>	 K4-713: ok, I'm starting another build just to see...
[20:12:23] <K4-713>	 awight: Yeah, I did wonder momentarily if there was any calendar-year-based logic in there...
[20:13:10] <K4-713>	 Damnit, query #6.
[20:13:16] <K4-713>	 Why can't you be more like query #5?
[20:14:42] <K4-713>	 Grumblecakes. We're missing lunch again.
[20:14:57] <awight>	 wat
[20:15:04] <K4-713>	 It's the first day back and we're doing it already.
[20:15:36] <K4-713>	 Suggestion: Let's give query #6 some time to screw around and see what it looks like when we've been fed.
[20:35:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Add Alipay form [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182881
[20:59:20] <atgo>	 ha i really need to see the interview...
[21:02:01] <atgo>	 ps ejegg honey's way cuter
[21:02:07] <K4|lunchly>	 :)
[21:02:15] <ejegg>	 aww, totes
[21:05:56] <atgo>	 ejegg:
[21:05:58] <atgo>	 ping
[21:06:24] <ejegg>	 oop, standup, right?
[21:06:29] <ejegg>	 be right there
[21:34:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Awight: Add Alipay form [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182881 (owner: Ejegg)
[21:34:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] Add Alipay form [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182881 (owner: Ejegg)
[21:35:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Add Alipay form [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182881 (owner: Ejegg)
[21:55:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS7) Awight: Preload JS comes with no baggage [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244
[21:55:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Awight: Document BannerRenderer [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182897
[21:55:18] <K4-713>	 awight: Up to query #31. I think we're going to make it.
[21:55:54] * awight breathes again
[21:56:21] <ejegg>	 woohoo
[21:56:38] <awight>	 must have been cosmic rays
[21:57:31] <K4-713>	 I blame solar flares.
[21:57:39] <K4-713>	 For, like, everything.
[22:01:17] * ejegg hopes for a nice aurora display next time
[22:02:27] <K4-713>	 You know, that's what I should tell myself I'm going to actually see with my eyeballs this year.
[22:02:31] <K4-713>	 Ionization.
[22:02:52] <K4-713>	 And lots of it.
[22:03:04] <awight>	 I passed on this amazing old book... it was an attempt at systematically rating and explaining visual mirages, and whether they actually happened.
[22:03:12] <awight>	 Pretty cool ones, like double suns
[22:03:16] <K4-713>	 heh
[22:03:27] <K4-713>	 We used to get the one with fake cities on the water all the time.
[22:03:40] <K4-713>	 It's trippy.
[22:03:55] <awight>	 Cool!  Yeah that was in there.  And they're often magnified
[22:04:00] <K4-713>	 yep
[22:04:07] <awight>	 Was there a city in that direction?
[22:04:14] <K4-713>	 I was all looking at my charts and going "There's nothing over there. Like, at all."
[22:04:29] <K4-713>	 Looks for all the world like skyscrapers.
[22:04:37] <awight>	 wat is it?
[22:05:05] <K4-713>	 So, it's a pocket of air, floating on the water... that's fairly shallow and a different temperature than the surrounding air.
[22:05:17] <K4-713>	 Causes small things on the beach to smear upwards to the top of the pocket.
[22:05:44] * awight crunches on popcorn
[22:05:49] <K4-713>	 I guess it's basically the same thing that makes people see water in the desert.
[22:06:11] <awight>	 I remember a lot of that on asphalt
[22:06:22] <awight>	 only on really hot days...
[22:06:29] <K4-713>	 So, yeah: You get this shoreline of a ton of columns that really look like buildings.
[22:06:29] <awight>	 it looks like a pool of mercury
[22:06:33] <awight>	 that's rad
[22:06:37] <K4-713>	 yeah
[22:06:47] <K4-713>	 Makes you think the whole world has been photoshopped, though.
[22:21:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS8) Awight: Preload JS comes with no baggage [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244
[22:22:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: Preload JS comes with no baggage (7 comments) [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244 (owner: Awight)
[22:22:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] Preload JS comes with no baggage [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244 (owner: Awight)
[22:25:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Add Alipay form settings [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182936
[22:25:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS9) Awight: Preload JS comes with no baggage [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244
[22:28:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] Add Alipay form settings [core] (fundraising/REL1_23) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182936 (owner: Ejegg)
[22:28:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] Preload JS comes with no baggage [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244 (owner: Awight)
[22:29:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS10) Awight: Preload JS comes with no baggage [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181244
[22:30:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS4) Awight: Annotation in generated forms links to source file [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181520
[22:30:31] <awight>	 Any takers? ^^
[22:32:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ejegg: [C: 2] "Informative!" [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181520 (owner: Awight)
[22:32:25] <awight>	 ejegg: holler!
[22:32:48] <ejegg>	 definitely gonna help troubleshooting form weirdness
[22:33:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Annotation in generated forms links to source file [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181520 (owner: Awight)
[23:02:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS5) Ssmith: Move filters from modal & add save/preview [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182239
[23:17:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS6) Ssmith: Move filters from modal & add save/preview [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182239
[23:57:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS7) Ssmith: Move filters from modal & add save/preview [wikimedia/fundraising/dash] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182239