[00:00:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: CRM-17464 remove deadlock inducing query [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255048 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119447) (owner: Eileen)
[00:01:42] <ejegg>	 How on earth is $this->adapter not an object in tearDown?  It's assigned to a TestingGenericAdapter in setUp and never re-assigned...
[00:02:06] <ejegg>	 well, I'm going to try deploying the GC fix anyway
[00:02:16] <ejegg>	 make sure that's OK
[00:03:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ejegg: [C: 2 V: 2] Return from function after redirect [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254920 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118349) (owner: Ejegg)
[00:07:13] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog: Direct referral - Donate.wiki to Paypal - Donation flow of last resort - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119472#1827168 (Jseddon) NEW a:awight
[00:09:56] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog: Direct referral - Donate.wiki to Paypal - Donation flow of last resort - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119472#1827179 (awight) a:awight>None Excellent idea!  I believe @Jseddon says "donate.wiki" cos this came up in the context of a batch of bulk email which was impacted by a...
[00:10:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Awight: Reset adapter account config in test setup [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248924 (owner: Ejegg)
[00:11:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] Reset adapter account config in test setup [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248924 (owner: Ejegg)
[00:11:23] <awight>	 ejegg: fwiw, ^ to see if other patches are affected.
[00:11:27] <ejegg>	 thanks!
[00:11:34] <ejegg>	 good candidate
[00:12:10] <cwd>	 ejegg: yeah really weird the tests are failing on that one, but i can reproduce
[00:12:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Reset adapter account config in test setup [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248924 (owner: Ejegg)
[00:12:42] <ejegg>	 cwd you can reproduce the failing tests?
[00:12:50] <cwd>	 yep
[00:12:56] <ejegg>	 huh, I can't
[00:12:57] <cwd>	 and the clearglobalcache thing
[00:13:09] <cwd>	 i'll mess with it and figure out why
[00:13:20] <cwd>	 certainly none of the changes there look like they'd cause this
[00:13:32] <ejegg>	 right?
[00:13:32] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, Patch-For-Review: Look at porting patch to mitigate CiviCRM deadlocks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119447#1827189 (Eileenmcnaughton) a:Eileenmcnaughton
[00:13:55] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, Patch-For-Review: Look at porting patch to mitigate CiviCRM deadlocks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119447#1826652 (Eileenmcnaughton)
[00:15:24] <Seddon>	 awight, do we have phabricator cards for other SPOF?
[00:15:25] <awight>	 wat
[00:15:36] <awight>	 Seddon: yeah--
[00:16:15] <ejegg>	 hmm, full tunnel VPN may not be fully tunnelling
[00:16:17] <awight>	 Seddon: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108229 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86253
[00:19:37] <awight>	 gtg!
[00:20:01] <Seddon>	 ditto
[00:20:02] <Seddon>	 night all
[00:21:05] <ejegg>	 see ya
[00:35:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS5) Ejegg: Replace rubbish data in currency code [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120)
[00:35:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] Replace rubbish data in currency code [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120) (owner: Ejegg)
[00:40:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_25) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255056
[00:41:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ejegg: [C: 2 V: 2] Update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_25) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255056 (owner: Ejegg)
[01:00:00] <ejegg>	 !log updated payments-wiki from ecbc49c63b259a4363c51491ddff273e3579f0e9 to 5358960d6857f589939c9b86ea37af168a4f8b0b
[01:00:04] <morebots>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log, Master
[01:02:20] <ejegg>	 logs good so far
[01:02:34] <ejegg>	 and I get the TY page on successful donation
[01:03:45] <ejegg>	 Amazon's still good too
[01:06:25] <cwd>	 ejegg: this is an obscure one, if i change the line from DonationData back the tests pass but it's hard to debug phpunit
[01:07:34] <ejegg>	 cwd: ??? so weird
[01:09:22] <ejegg>	 AndyRussG: Oh, I see some lines in payments.debug that show the history log id processor is actually running
[01:10:37] <ejegg>	 but I'm guessing all our traffic is from email right now, so there are no ids on the querystrings
[01:10:43] <cwd>	 ejegg: yeah i don't have a good way to get xdebug to catch that particular thread cause it's php calling php
[01:11:13] <ejegg>	 I can't even reproduce the error
[01:21:01] <ejegg>	 AndyRussG: I got a queue message to appear by faking the parameter
[01:31:37] <AndyRussG>	 ejegg: wohoo!
[01:32:50] <AndyRussG>	 ejegg: Hmmm I hadn't thought about e-mail traffic... what log messages are u seeing?
[01:33:10] <AndyRussG>	 Ah in the debug log
[01:33:13] <ejegg>	 just the debug one (Amazon is still at debug logging level)
[01:37:13] <ejegg>	 AndyRussG: I don't see that param name in any of the scripts loaded with one random recent banner
[01:38:59] <AndyRussG>	 Hmm.. Which banner? Do you see calls to ensureLogSent()?
[01:41:20] <ejegg>	 yep, there's one of those
[01:41:26] <AndyRussG>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:FR2013/Resources/BannerFormCore.js
[01:41:34] <AndyRussG>	 Woops, looks like the param is different!!! Ohnoes
[01:41:48] <AndyRussG>	 if ( mixins && mixins.bannerHistoryLogger ) {
[01:41:48] <AndyRussG>	         params.banner_history_log_id = mw.centralNotice.bannerHistoryLogger.id;
[01:41:48] <AndyRussG>	     }
[01:41:55] <ejegg>	 oho!
[01:42:02] <AndyRussG>	 I guess we can edit that pretty easily tho....
[01:42:04] <ejegg>	 well, that should be an easy fix!
[01:42:08] <AndyRussG>	 yep!
[01:42:23] <ejegg>	 would you like to do the honors?
[01:44:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Cdentinger: WIP: publishing for visibility, don't merge this [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255060
[01:44:22] <AndyRussG>	 Sure!
[01:44:36] <cwd>	 ejegg: ^ definitely not the right thing, but on the trail
[01:44:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] WIP: publishing for visibility, don't merge this [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255060 (owner: Cdentinger)
[01:44:57] <ejegg>	 for the tests?  Thanks for digging in to that!
[01:45:23] <cwd>	 you bet!  i'll get to the bottom of it tomorrow, but i gotta go help with dinner
[01:45:25] <cwd>	 later!
[01:45:40] <ejegg>	 thanks again!
[01:47:16] <AndyRussG>	 ejegg: done!
[01:47:25] <ejegg>	 nice!
[01:47:50] <ejegg>	 There are low-level campaigns going on in a bunch of places, so we should start to see some real queue entries
[01:48:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS6) Ejegg: Replace rubbish data in currency code [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120)
[01:49:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] Replace rubbish data in currency code [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120) (owner: Ejegg)
[01:50:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS7) Ejegg: Replace rubbish data in currency code [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120)
[01:51:27] <ejegg>	 cwd|afk: passing tests! thanks again
[01:51:55] <AndyRussG>	 Funny when I saved the page on Meta, it said there were the script had errors
[01:52:10] <ejegg>	 eek!
[01:52:20] <AndyRussG>	 Probably some silly MW JS linter thing
[01:52:30] <ejegg>	 didn't say what errors?
[01:52:53] <AndyRussG>	 Ah yeah (just saw it clicking on edit again) it's just the <script> tags themselves
[01:54:30] <AndyRussG>	 Should be fine, really... I double-checked the changes were only that param
[01:54:40] <ejegg>	 nice
[01:54:48] <AndyRussG>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AFR2013%2FResources%2FBannerFormCore.js&type=revision&diff=14789805&oldid=14693754
[01:55:12] <ejegg>	 and they're rolling into the queue!
[01:55:27] <ejegg>	 Now we just need to make a jenkins job to run the consumer
[01:58:14] <ejegg>	 AndyRussG: do you have a sec to +2 a trivial change? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254658
[01:58:31] <ejegg>	 just adding a try/catch in logging
[01:59:49] <AndyRussG>	 ejegg: sure, looking
[01:59:55] <ejegg>	 thanks!
[02:01:21] <AndyRussG>	 Where does JsonSerializableObject come from?
[02:01:38] <AndyRussG>	 Eh yeah the jenkins job
[02:01:49] <AndyRussG>	 K I'll try to do that a bit later or tomorrow morning!
[02:01:52] <ejegg>	 the class?
[02:02:31] <AndyRussG>	 Ah K https://github.com/wikimedia/wikimedia-fundraising-SmashPig/blob/master/Core/DataStores/JsonSerializableObject.php
[02:02:42] <AndyRussG>	 Ya part of smashpig then
[02:02:45] <ejegg>	 Yeah
[02:03:14] <ejegg>	 Somehow it's throwing this exception when I try logging a job I just deserialized from json
[02:03:33] <ejegg>	 whyever that is, I figure logging should be throwing exceptions
[02:03:40] <ejegg>	 *shouldn't
[02:07:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) AndyRussG: [C: 2] "I guess JsonSerializableObject::toJson() needs to document that it throws that exception? In what situations would that happen?" [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254658 (owner: Ejegg)
[02:08:02] <ejegg>	 Thanks!
[02:08:17] <AndyRussG>	 yw! Sorry I should have checked IRC before writing the comment!!
[02:08:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Catch exceptions in LogEvent constructor [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254658 (owner: Ejegg)
[02:08:45] <ejegg>	 woohoo!  Think that'll make the damaged queue thing finally work
[02:10:06] <AndyRussG>	 Cool!
[02:10:15] <AndyRussG>	 K I have to run to the supermarket before they close!
[02:10:20] <ejegg>	 see ya!
[02:10:27] <AndyRussG>	 laterzz! ;p
[02:12:16] <ejegg>	 !log updated SmashPig from 55c2dbc8cd36cfb89d7e17b75b840ca2e023653e to 6243d4f172dbfa5e3820f2e1e3a3165efff58bac
[02:12:20] <morebots>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log, Master
[02:19:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Fix undefined var [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255062
[02:30:50] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1827357 (ellery) NEW
[02:42:55] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface, FR-Adyen: Update Adyen adapter to use SHA-256 signature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679#1827369 (Ejegg)
[03:38:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: WIP use SHA-256 HMAC for Adyen [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255064 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679)
[03:38:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] WIP use SHA-256 HMAC for Adyen [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255064 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679) (owner: Ejegg)
[03:38:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Eileen: CRM-17454 fix slow dedupe query [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255065 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116886)
[03:48:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Ejegg: WIP use SHA-256 HMAC for Adyen [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255064 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679)
[03:51:28] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface, FR-Adyen, Patch-For-Review: Update Adyen adapter to use SHA-256 signature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679#1827404 (Ejegg) p:Triage>High
[03:52:44] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Adyen: Configure new Adyen account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119442#1827408 (Ejegg)
[03:52:45] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Adyen: Adyen: retest internally with real credit cards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118293#1827407 (Ejegg)
[03:52:47] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface, FR-Adyen, Patch-For-Review: Update Adyen adapter to use SHA-256 signature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679#1755513 (Ejegg)
[04:07:07] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface, FR-Adyen, Patch-For-Review: Update Adyen adapter to use SHA-256 signature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679#1827412 (Ejegg) a:Ejegg
[12:52:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS4) Glaisher: Improve output subtitle on Special:CentralNoticeBanners [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234736
[12:55:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Glaisher: "Rebased again. Part of this was split into another patch and merged." [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234736 (owner: Glaisher)
[14:00:42] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1828005 (atgo) p:Triage>Normal
[14:00:48] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1827357 (atgo)
[14:01:01] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, fundraising-tech-ops: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1827357 (atgo)
[16:28:10] <wikibugs>	 Wikimedia-Fundraising: Don't show fundraising banners outside of main namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119400#1828337 (Pcoombe) Open>Resolved Done for fundraising banners going forward.
[16:33:43] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog: PayPal recurring annual donation did not reach Civi - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119518#1828348 (MBeat33) NEW
[16:45:31] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1828373 (Aklapper) See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects#Requesting_a_Space for needed information.
[16:51:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Cdentinger: [C: 2] "That should do it!" [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120) (owner: Ejegg)
[16:51:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (Abandoned) Cdentinger: WIP: publishing for visibility, don't merge this [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255060 (owner: Cdentinger)
[16:51:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Replace rubbish data in currency code [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254343 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119120) (owner: Ejegg)
[17:12:18] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, fundraising-tech-ops: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1828425 (Pcoombe) There is https://collab.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/Engineering/SQL_Database_Overview, but it could be bett...
[17:16:51] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1828433 (ggellerman) Thanks, @atgo!  @Aklapper Is what's missing the description which specific Phabricator users should be able to access objec...
[17:17:58] <ejegg|away>	 Thanks for finding the issue with that cwd !
[17:19:26] <cwd>	 no prob!  my patch was silly but looks like you found the right solution
[17:19:59] <ejegg>	 yeah, I think that way we guarantee a currency code after normalization
[17:20:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Merge branch 'master' into deployment [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255137
[17:21:04] <ejegg>	 looks like it's just that and your adyen stuff for this deploy
[17:21:12] <cwd>	 groovy
[17:21:24] <ejegg>	 speaking of adyen, we might have to do the SHA-256 upgrade
[17:21:51] <ejegg>	 they gave us a new account, and in the merchant console it only lets you make skins with the SHA-1 if your account is already using it
[17:22:08] <ejegg>	 I've got a patch, but I haven't tested it yet
[17:22:23] <ejegg>	 Did you get the email about the new accounts?
[17:22:43] <cwd>	 yep i found it
[17:22:49] <ejegg>	 cool
[17:22:49] <cwd>	 just looking at the sha256 patch now
[17:24:48] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1828478 (Aklapper) >>! In T119258#1828433, @ggellerman wrote: > Is what's missing the description which specific Phabricator users should be abl...
[17:28:04] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1828484 (ggellerman) Thanks for the quick reply @Aklapper!  @atgo Could you suggest a name for the Space and provide the list of who should have...
[17:32:50] <atgomez>	 omg red-eye
[17:32:57] <atgomez>	 i'm going to be a super space cadet today.
[17:33:16] <ejegg>	 'sok to nap!
[17:34:58] <atgomez>	 already did ;)
[17:47:00] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, fundraising-tech-ops: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1828595 (ellery) The collab page is great start!  Another good table to document would be drupal.contribution_source.
[17:59:00] <dstrine-amish>	 atgomez:  me too :(
[18:01:42] <awight>	 hehe /me digs through logs for something to agree about
[18:01:45] <awight>	 me too, actually!
[18:05:31] <awight>	 AndyRussG: Can we leave you alone to prep yr talk?
[18:05:41] <awight>	 having a backlog party, otherwise
[18:05:47] <AndyRussG>	 Ahhhh wooops!
[18:05:53] <AndyRussG>	 Aaaaarg
[18:06:00] <AndyRussG>	 Yeah coming
[18:06:03] <AndyRussG>	 awight: ^
[18:08:33] <AndyRussG>	 Aaarg hangout issues dstrine-amish awight
[18:08:37] <AndyRussG>	 one sec
[18:14:27] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice: CentralNotice: change impression diet fallback for no storage available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119538#1828765 (AndyRussG) NEW
[18:39:22] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [epic] Make sure worldpay works in english for all 5 countries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114780#1828876 (atgo) Open>declined
[18:39:23] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [EPIC] Worldpay as english backup processor? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114701#1828877 (atgo)
[18:39:31] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [EPIC] Worldpay as english backup processor? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114701#1703392 (atgo)
[18:39:32] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: Worldpay form for CA - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114782#1828878 (atgo) Open>declined
[18:39:36] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [epic] Make sure worldpay works in english for all 5 countries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114780#1706066 (atgo)
[18:39:37] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [EPIC] Worldpay as english backup processor? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114701#1703392 (atgo)
[18:39:39] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: Worldpay form for AU - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114783#1828881 (atgo) Open>declined
[18:39:42] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [epic] Make sure worldpay works in english for all 5 countries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114780#1706066 (atgo)
[18:39:59] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [epic] Make sure worldpay works in english for all 5 countries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114780#1828896 (atgo)
[18:40:01] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: Worldpay form for UK - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114785#1828895 (atgo) Open>declined
[18:40:03] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [EPIC] Worldpay as english backup processor? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114701#1828897 (atgo)
[18:40:05] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [epic] Make sure worldpay works in english for all 5 countries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114780#1706066 (atgo)
[18:40:07] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: [EPIC] Worldpay as english backup processor? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114701#1703392 (atgo)
[18:40:09] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Worldpay: Worldpay form for US - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114781#1828900 (atgo) Open>declined
[18:50:02] <awight>	 WOW that was all the spam
[19:00:40] <Jeff_Green>	 awight do you think it makes sense to collect a list of known pain-points and/or spofs on collab wiki? Is there such a list already?
[19:01:17] <awight>	 Jeff_Green: Not yet, be my guest!
[19:01:28] <awight>	 I'll add a few :D
[19:01:43] <Jeff_Green>	 ok. it's gonna be slightly freeform to start
[19:01:50] <awight>	 Thanks for thinking of it!
[19:02:16] <awight>	 Might make a good Phabricator tracking task, actually?
[19:16:15] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint Snoop (Dogg|Lion), Fundraising Sprint Tom Waits, Fundraising Sprint UB40, Fundraising Sprint Vengaboys, and 4 others: Associate banner history ID with contribution_tracking ID - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112022#1622923 (Ejegg)
[19:16:17] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, and 3 others: Determine what was breaking GlobalCollect in paymentswiki 3730cff20 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118349#1829125 (Ejegg) Open>Resolved
[19:16:24] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog: Add field data back into Silverpop export - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105254#1829128 (Ejegg)
[19:16:25] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint William Shatner, Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, Patch-For-Review: Dedupe data in Silverpop file - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107045#1829127 (Ejegg) Open>Resolved
[19:16:50] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog: [EPIC] Banner history post launch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112923#1829130 (Ejegg)
[19:16:52] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint UB40, Fundraising Sprint Vengaboys, Fundraising Sprint William Shatner, Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, and 3 others: Show large screen banner and then top screen banner without losing an impression - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90919#1829129 (Ejegg) Open>Resolved
[19:18:49] <ejegg>	 awight: trivial CR? SmashPig_FINAL_V4_ReallyFinal_LastPatchISwear - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255062
[19:19:04] <awight>	 o thanks!
[19:19:09] <awight>	 Sorry, I'm distracted by the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks
[19:19:19] <awight>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE3lSfs1dzc
[19:19:30] <ejegg>	 ah yeah, watching that too!
[19:19:32] <awight>	 #wikimedia-tech, for some reason
[19:19:53] <ejegg>	 ...I just need to do two things at once to focus on one thing
[19:19:56] <awight>	 Totally thinking that CentralNotice should publish in that same banner view count format
[19:26:24] <atgomez>	 andy's doing his lightning talk right meow :)
[19:28:10] <cwd>	 i can't get the stream to play :(
[19:28:38] <cwd>	 hopefully i can watch a recorded version later
[19:28:49] <atgomez>	 aww
[19:28:56] <atgomez>	 it will be recorded for sure
[19:28:58] <atgomez>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE3lSfs1dzc
[19:29:16] <cwd>	 An error occurred.  Please try again later.
[19:29:20] <atgomez>	 LAME.
[19:29:37] <cwd>	 i think they use a different format for stream vs. video
[19:29:44] * cwd doesn't install flash anymore
[19:30:36] <eileen>	 cwd did you try the hangout link
[19:31:39] <cwd>	 eileen: no, i just figured it was full, will try now
[19:32:12] <cwd>	 grr, same thing
[19:32:20] <eileen>	 :-(
[19:33:23] <cwd>	 all the youtube faq stuff says it should work
[19:37:29] <eileen>	 well done	AndyRussG
[19:37:42] <XenoRyet>	 +1  Good talk
[19:38:20] <AndyRussG>	 eileen: XenoRyet: ah thanks!!!! Rrrrg I was kinda nervous and also I'm not as non-sleep-deprived as I wish 8p
[19:38:53] <XenoRyet>	 It didn't show.  Went really well I thought.
[19:39:17] <AndyRussG>	 XenoRyet: weee thanks so much!!!!!!
[19:39:24] <eileen>	 yeah it was goof
[19:39:27] <eileen>	 good
[19:39:32] <eileen>	 (opps)
[19:40:03] <AndyRussG>	 I wish we had more data from the feature to show...! Hopefully soon ;p
[19:42:00] <eileen>	 :-)
[19:44:51] <awight>	 yah me too
[19:45:21] <AndyRussG>	 sooooooooooooon.... There's sooo much there
[19:47:33] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: it was great!
[19:48:00] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: thx!!!!! Really glad u liked it \o/
[19:48:45] <AndyRussG>	 U could see the slides OK?
[19:49:00] <atgomez>	 yeah for sure
[19:49:08] * atgomez applauds
[19:49:10] <AndyRussG>	 I'm trying to think if it's the first talk I've given via Hangout... I think so
[19:49:15] * AndyRussG blushes deeply
[19:50:01] <AndyRussG>	 Since I couldn't see anyone ('cause I was presenting, full-screen) I couldn't tell much about the reaction/vibe
[19:51:16] <eileen>	 yeah  - but these days people just look at their laptops while you talk so there is no good feedback anyway
[19:51:42] <AndyRussG>	 ;)
[19:51:44] <AndyRussG>	 Hopefully if they're listening they might chuckle a little when you tell a joke
[19:51:56] <ejegg>	 thanks for representing fr-tech!
[19:52:44] <AndyRussG>	 ejegg: yw, your turn next time, eh!!
[19:53:13] <ejegg>	 on a privacy/banner topic, i'd say it's a raging success if you don't get flamed immediately
[19:53:35] <XenoRyet>	 Heh, good point  ;-)
[19:53:36] <ejegg>	 and you did get some thanks for the anonymizing efforts!
[19:54:37] <ejegg>	 hehe, I really should find something to say to our little toastmasters club
[19:55:11] <AndyRussG>	 toastmasters?
[19:55:25] <ejegg>	 It's a club for people to practice public speaking
[19:55:35] <ejegg>	 I just found out they have a lot of chapters in prisons!
[19:55:39] <AndyRussG>	 Ah cool!
[19:55:47] <ejegg>	 to prepare folks for return to society
[19:56:10] <AndyRussG>	 Heh interesting
[19:56:15] <ejegg>	 seems useful for some of us coders...
[19:56:56] <AndyRussG>	 could be fun!!
[19:57:15] <AndyRussG>	 I guess something like a debating club?
[19:57:50] <ejegg>	 sorta, but not confrontational at all
[19:58:21] <ejegg>	 just find a topic for a 5 minute speech, and afterward everyone gives constructive feedback
[19:59:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: -1] Fix undefined var [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255062 (owner: Ejegg)
[19:59:37] <ejegg>	 ok, I gotta vanish for a bit.  Back before too long...
[19:59:44] <AndyRussG>	 ejegg: cya!
[20:03:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Cdentinger: "This seems to work, I can get an iframe that says: "At this moment there are no payment methods available for this combination of amount, " [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255064 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679) (owner: Ejegg)
[20:46:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] "CR-1 was some kind of monkey at the keyboard glitch." [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255062 (owner: Ejegg)
[20:47:42] <ejegg>	 thanks awight!
[20:48:26] <awight>	 dstrine: We could use a "FR-SmashPig" tag, at your leisure.
[20:48:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Fix undefined var [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255062 (owner: Ejegg)
[20:48:50] <dstrine>	 awight ok did you also ask for coinbase at some point?
[20:50:40] <awight>	 meh...
[20:50:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Cdentinger: Stop adding busted stuff to log context. [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254662 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117447) (owner: Ejegg)
[20:50:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Cdentinger: [C: 2] Stop adding busted stuff to log context. [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254662 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117447) (owner: Ejegg)
[20:50:54] <awight>	 I think I was annoyed at the time, and wanted a workboard of evil to point at.
[20:51:01] <awight>	 But sure
[20:51:08] * awight becomes reannoyed
[20:51:10] <dstrine>	 It will take a few days for this request to run through the pneumatic system that is the phabricator backend
[20:51:15] <awight>	 omfg
[20:51:22] <awight>	 cool image, tho!
[20:51:25] <dstrine>	 I need to get approval from people
[20:51:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Stop adding busted stuff to log context. [wikimedia/fundraising/SmashPig] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254662 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117447) (owner: Ejegg)
[20:51:50] <awight>	 Everykid wishes they could ride in one of those vaccum delivery cartridges
[20:53:24] <XenoRyet>	 I'm half convinced that was the origin of that hyperloop concept.
[20:56:55] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, fundraising-tech-ops, MediaWiki-extensions-ContributionTracking, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface: [epic] SPOF: Use Redis as backend store for contribution_tracking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119556#1829615 (awight) NEW
[20:58:27] <dstrine>	 awight: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119557
[20:58:59] <dstrine>	 awight: and XenoRyet  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W39qQE5jqWk
[21:01:54] <dstrine>	 also for the industrious parent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-i1HHad9Zk
[21:02:45] <XenoRyet>	 Nice
[21:02:48] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, fundraising-tech-ops, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface: [Epic] SPOF: Replace ActiveMQ donation queues with Redis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108229#1829632 (awight) p:Normal>High
[21:08:02] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, fundraising-tech-ops: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1829654 (awight) a:awight
[21:08:22] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, fundraising-tech-ops, Unplanned-Sprint-Work: Documentation for  civicrm, drupal and pgehres MYSQL Tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119481#1827357 (awight)
[21:12:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Siebrand: [C: 1] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234736 (owner: Glaisher)
[21:13:39] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-DonationInterface, FR-Adyen, Patch-For-Review: Update Adyen adapter to use SHA-256 signature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116679#1829676 (cwdent) a:Ejegg>cwdent
[21:13:53] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Adyen: Configure new Adyen account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119442#1829677 (cwdent) a:Ejegg>cwdent
[21:19:18] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM: Add configurable sample rate for creating CiviMail activities from Thank You emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119560#1829690 (Ejegg) NEW a:Ejegg
[21:20:28] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM: Add configurable sample rate for creating CiviMail activities from Thank You emails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119560#1829706 (Ejegg)
[21:20:29] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, Epic: Make CiviMail useful - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91710#1829705 (Ejegg)
[21:32:12] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Tech Backlog, Fundraising-Backlog, Epic: [epic] PCI gap analysis and Improvements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77912#1829721 (csteipp)
[21:40:39] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Adyen: Configure new Adyen account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119442#1829743 (Ejegg)
[21:41:46] <awight>	 dstrine: Thank you for the video.
[21:44:49] <cwd>	 ejegg: do i need a new login for the adyen portal then?
[22:03:51] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint William Shatner, Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, and 2 others: Slow query on deduping 2 contacts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116886#1829818 (Eileenmcnaughton)
[22:04:14] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, Wikimedia-Fundraising-CiviCRM, Patch-For-Review: Civi error while running module schema upgrade - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116877#1829819 (Eileenmcnaughton)
[22:07:47] <ejegg>	 !log updated SmashPig from 6243d4f172dbfa5e3820f2e1e3a3165efff58bac to b3ee85aab38fdeef3f045ba1733f582e9a5006b2
[22:07:51] <morebots>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log, Master
[22:16:55] <ejegg>	 aaargh.  I have no idea why SmashPig still isn't moving failed jobs to the damaged message queue.
[22:17:26] <ejegg>	 Going to move all the bad jobs by hand so I can set the failmail back to fr-tech
[22:21:15] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising Sprint X-Ray Spex, Fundraising-Backlog, FR-Adyen: Configure new Adyen account - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119442#1829919 (Ejegg)
[22:26:27] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice: CentralNotice: change impression diet fallback for no storage available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119538#1829948 (AndyRussG)
[22:26:52] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: dstrine: shall we bring this one into the Sprigt? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119538
[22:39:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ejegg: [C: 2 V: 2] Merge branch 'master' into deployment [extensions/DonationInterface] (deployment) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255137 (owner: Ejegg)
[22:40:41] <dstrine>	 AndyRussG:  I'm not sure exactly what that means but it would be atgomez 's call
[22:41:01] <AndyRussG>	 dstrine: it's the thing that FR asked us to change about the impression diet feature
[22:41:19] <dstrine>	 the thing they were afraid to test?
[22:41:25] <AndyRussG>	 No
[22:41:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Ejegg: Update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_25) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255267
[22:41:49] <AndyRussG>	 It's a detail that emerged following the recent fix... It's so that people with cookies disabled always don't see banners instead of always seeing them
[22:41:56] <AndyRussG>	 (on campaigns with impression diet enabled)
[22:42:12] <dstrine>	 you discussed that yesterday right?
[22:42:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ejegg: [C: 2 V: 2] Update DonationInterface submodule [core] (fundraising/REL1_25) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255267 (owner: Ejegg)
[22:43:59] <ejegg>	 cwd: about to deploy currency filter and your Adyen UI stuff.  No config changes needed for the Adyen UI updates, right?
[22:44:21] <cwd>	 nope nothing i can think of
[22:44:33] <cwd>	 it's still on the old account (unless you changed?)
[22:44:52] <dstrine>	 AndyRussG: I think atgomez would need to chat about it and make sure stakeholders are cool with that change
[22:45:04] <ejegg>	 nah, not changing the account till we can deploy the new sig algo
[22:45:16] <cwd>	 right right
[22:45:41] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1829987 (Aklapper) a:Aklapper Created #acl*fundraising_research_policy_admins with @atgo as initial member (@atgo can add more members), and...
[22:45:43] <ejegg>	 aargh, more Amazon firewall fails.  Think it needs to come out of the banners
[22:47:18] <cwd>	 more ip changes?
[22:47:27] <awight>	 ejegg: oh no!
[22:47:35] <ejegg>	 awight: yep
[22:47:45] <AndyRussG>	 dstrine: Ah hmm K np, I mean, I just made the card 'cause (I thought) they were asking for that (in the FR Standup that Anne asked me to go to on Monday)
[22:47:47] <ejegg>	 editing PaymentOutages.js
[22:47:48] <awight>	 Want me to take the campaigns down?
[22:47:54] <awight>	 What's the volume?
[22:48:00] <ejegg>	 oh, let me check
[22:48:07] <awight>	 ah, I can too
[22:48:51] <ejegg>	 463 in the past day
[22:49:34] <ejegg>	 1327 successful Amazon donations
[22:49:55] <awight>	 damn.  Yeah it has to come down.
[22:49:59] <ejegg>	 so yeah, let's take it back out of banners
[22:50:29] <awight>	 You're planning to just remove that method from banners?  We would have to check that no banner is left with zero methods
[22:50:33] <awight>	 It's hard cos: countries
[22:50:45] <ejegg>	 Isn't Amazon just US?
[22:50:53] <awight>	 ...
[22:51:56] <ejegg>	 and MethodLocalize.js says...
[22:52:14] <ejegg>	 yep, just US
[22:52:14] <awight>	 Amazon is USD but any country
[22:52:19] <awight>	 eh, ok thanks
[22:52:38] <awight>	 it's really bad having this logic duplicated in banner js, CN, and DI
[22:52:55] <awight>	 DI has no country restrictions in DonationInterfaceFormSettings.php
[22:53:20] <ejegg>	 really?
[22:53:28] <awight>	 Not that I can see
[22:53:28] <ejegg>	 we took those out?
[22:53:40] * awight squints
[22:54:08] <ejegg>	 oic, not for amazon, but for other methods
[22:54:12] * awight ffws 33 commits
[22:54:54] <awight>	 yeah.  Well, I guess DI should indicate where a processor *works* and CN+banners should specify where we *want* to use it
[22:55:04] <awight>	 So this might be true
[22:55:25] <awight>	 we don't need the country restriction there
[22:55:39] <awight>	 Sorry to drag you down my donkey-drawn buggy lane
[22:56:00] <ejegg>	 heh, no worries
[22:56:24] * awight wonders if we should integrate with potatoes
[22:56:43] <awight>	 http://www.introducingcarrot.com/
[22:57:13] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830015 (ggellerman) @Aklapper  Thank you so much for taking care of this!
[22:58:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: "I'm confused what this is. Isn't the civi-4.6.9 branch deprecated?" [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] (civi-4.6.9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252462 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115925) (owner: Eileen)
[23:00:44] <cwd>	 awight: excellent
[23:03:14] <cwd>	 "the bits stating the card has Chip-and-PIN can be turned off from the magstripe"
[23:03:27] <cwd>	 https://github.com/samyk/magspoof
[23:03:36] <awight>	 wireless, swipe up to quit
[23:03:57] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830074 (atgo) Hey @aklapper - thanks for making this work. So just to make sure I understand, anyone who is in the #acl*fundraising_research_po...
[23:04:19] <AndyRussG>	 dstrine: atgomez: also there's this 'un https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114391
[23:04:19] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830075 (atgo) Also I was able to add @ggellerman to the group and everything seemed to work as expected, so yay
[23:04:42] <AndyRussG>	 Apologies again for my multitasking during our meet, I should really have brought this up at that time
[23:04:54] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: so. you're saying we should be addressing this?
[23:04:55] <awight>	 ejegg: I'm skeptical that we can eyeball and understand all the implications of disabling Amazon and not the entire campaigns.
[23:05:16] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: not sure... Was wondering if u had feedback
[23:05:29] <awight>	 Cos--these are experiments and not firehoses of dollars
[23:05:31] <AndyRussG>	 At least maybe it warrants looking into and guesstimating impact?
[23:06:13] <AndyRussG>	 dollarhose?
[23:06:35] <ejegg>	 awight: ugh, probably
[23:06:58] <AndyRussG>	 Though actually a firehose spews water, so maybe a dollarhose spews debt? Maybe you need a debthose? Dollars to put out some burning debt?
[23:07:10] <ejegg>	 well, right now there are no high-level short-term tests happening
[23:07:19] <awight>	 like, we will be tipping the scales incorrectly in favor of other methods.  I think the-wub would prefer we shut off anything that uses Amazon at all
[23:07:36] <ejegg>	 just the low-level campaigns in a bunch of non-english languages
[23:08:19] <awight>	 AndyRussG: LOL that is real.  I have a debthose in my garage I'd like to plug a small dollarhose into and not worry about
[23:08:51] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: also this one that you've been active on maybe? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F3003211
[23:09:04] <awight>	 ejegg: So mmm agree I should hit the red button?
[23:09:24] <ejegg>	 the-wub just responded to my email and didn't say to kill it all
[23:09:41] <awight>	 MBeat: you catching this Amazon thread?  We might be hearing about a failure to pay through that method.
[23:09:53] <MBeat>	 yes
[23:10:05] <awight>	 463 failures today, vs 1367 successful donations
[23:10:07] <MBeat>	 thanks for the heads-up; haven’t seen tickets about it yet
[23:10:12] <MBeat>	 but wow
[23:10:21] <awight>	 I think it's just low volume else we would
[23:10:27] <atgomez>	 awight: that is a bummer.. i think it's probably fine to leave just amazon down for now
[23:10:35] <atgomez>	 but perhaps we should… get a real answer for this going forward
[23:10:43] <awight>	 MBeat: either way, those donations are all slightly damaged now, which is a second consideration
[23:11:01] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: that's an image, not the task… can you link the task?
[23:11:14] <ejegg>	 awight - no chance of them giving us any money here
[23:11:41] <awight>	 atgomez: I agree that it's the-wub's call whether we disable the method or all campaigns, sounds like he's tacitly in the "disable method" camp
[23:11:46] <ejegg>	 There will be open order requests in the Amazon console, but no captures
[23:11:48] <atgomez>	 i'm down to pull the back button in if we get through the rest
[23:11:58] <atgomez>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114391
[23:12:07] <MBeat>	 there arent tons of new open orders at Amazon, fwiw
[23:12:19] <awight>	 atgomez: but I know the answer in the future will be more complicated if it's a gateway test
[23:12:29] <atgomez>	 awight: yeah i think ti's fine… they'll be online in their morning and will see the issue and decide. but maybe circle back on that thread and ask them if we should disable everything or just the method in case this happens again?
[23:12:34] <atgomez>	 yeah for sure…
[23:12:45] <atgomez>	 can't we just whitelist the entire internet, amazon? :P
[23:12:48] <atgomez>	 juuuust kidding
[23:12:53] <ejegg>	 oh, huh... maybe a lot of these work on retry?
[23:13:05] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: i think the non-article display has been resolved by the-wub… combing through tasks right now
[23:13:08] <awight>	 interesting!
[23:13:39] <atgomez>	 oh wait, the=wub replied!
[23:13:40] <ejegg>	 atgomez: yeah, we can subscribe to a notification whenever the set of all AWS IPs changes
[23:14:03] <awight>	 here I go, editing https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:FR2013/Resources/PaymentOutages.js
[23:14:03] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: woops it was this one https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119116
[23:14:04] <ejegg>	 but we were told the marketplace web services used a stable subset
[23:14:28] * awight is grimly silent
[23:14:35] <ejegg>	 and even if we get automatic updates, i don't think anyone wants to automatically change our firewall rules
[23:14:40] <awight>	 I've seen one payment processor I liked
[23:15:00] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: i think we can dig at that one for a bit, but i do think we'll likely find it's unresolvable :/
[23:15:10] <AndyRussG>	 Hmmm
[23:15:11] <AndyRussG>	 K
[23:15:31] <atgomez>	 and unfortunately annoying for our power users. or maybe we can discuss disabling banners when opened in-app web view on iOS, but that's a bigger conversation
[23:15:32] <AndyRussG>	 Yeah I don't know much about iOS, I'd just be worried if it goes beyond those specific cicumsntaces (clicking from an e-mail)
[23:15:41] <awight>	 ejegg: Yeah I think they're being really lazy about IP assignment.  Probably hard on their platform
[23:15:50] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: dunno if you saw my other message, there's also this one https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119538 which I _think _ FR asked for on Monday?
[23:15:57] <atgomez>	 so the way it works is that the apps can open a browser in-app, but it looks like any logins or anything don't carryover
[23:16:17] <ejegg>	 well, the good news is this just started today
[23:16:19] <awight>	 It's fine to have an infinite pool of actual servers, but not OK to scattershot and screw up load balancing and filewalls
[23:16:32] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: ahh K I see
[23:16:41] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: sprint planning is tomorrow
[23:16:45] <atgomez>	 so we can worry about these things then
[23:16:49] <AndyRussG>	 If that's how it is, then yes, sounds likely unsolvable
[23:17:02] <atgomez>	 unless you think it's that urgent
[23:17:07] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830115 (Aklapper) >>! In T119258#1830074, @atgo wrote: > Hey @aklapper - thanks for making this work. So just to make sure I understand, anyone...
[23:17:21] <awight>	 ejegg: HA.  their last new IP surprise was 10-24
[23:17:48] <ejegg>	 10?  like, internal 10.?
[23:17:48] <awight>	 Happy lunaversary
[23:18:00] <awight>	 no Oct 24
[23:18:01] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: no not urgent! but I should also do stuff ;p .... could just poke around and look for CR, mmm still didn't finish my local test transaction attempts
[23:18:23] <ejegg>	 heh, we should mark 12/24 in the calendar
[23:18:28] <awight>	 we should!
[23:18:56] <cwd>	 that's my on call day >:|
[23:19:18] <awight>	 ejegg: uh, nvm.  I just got fooled by the 0-based month
[23:19:22] <awight>	 plus your edit
[23:19:40] <awight>	 The last outage was 2 *days* ago
[23:19:43] <ejegg>	 ah, that horrid thing
[23:20:07] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG: it would be great to put the wittylama reported bug to rest, make sure there's nothing ghere
[23:20:20] <atgomez>	 but otherwise, there's higher priority stuff in the backlog i think :)
[23:20:26] <AndyRussG>	 atgomez: K gotcha! :)
[23:20:44] <AndyRussG>	 Mmm time to sup... bassoon!
[23:21:05] <AndyRussG|souper>	 p.s. thx atgomez!
[23:21:54] <atgomez>	 ciao!
[23:22:12] <atgomez>	 AndyRussG|souper: actually, yeah let's stick with what's in the sprint and we can add the investigation in the next one :)
[23:22:22] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice: Banner form should hide banner if no payment methods are available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119580#1830133 (awight) NEW a:Pcoombe
[23:23:27] <awight>	 eileen: Small question on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/252462/ when you have a chance
[23:24:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Eileen: "Yeah - that seems dated - I'll kill & re-do when we are there with the repo script stuff" [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] (civi-4.6.9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252462 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115925) (owner: Eileen)
[23:24:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (Abandoned) Eileen: Sync changes from switching to generating from deployment [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] (civi-4.6.9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252462 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115925) (owner: Eileen)
[23:24:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2] "Great improvements, thank you for noticing!" [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234736 (owner: Glaisher)
[23:25:23] <eileen>	 awight: yeah -  I just knocked that one off for now
[23:26:13] <awight>	 sure!
[23:26:37] <awight>	 If you want it to go away, you can always "abandon"
[23:27:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Improve output subtitle on Special:CentralNoticeBanners [extensions/CentralNotice] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234736 (owner: Glaisher)
[23:28:03] <eileen>	 I did!
[23:29:09] <awight>	 haha okay thanks
[23:29:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Pcoombe: Remove whitebox wiki template from forms [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255280
[23:29:17] <awight>	 eileen: Have you seen this js error before?  "Error: CRM.url called before initialization"
[23:29:34] <awight>	 I'm getting that trying to select contacts to merge in advanced search results
[23:29:48] <eileen>	 awight: yeah - trying to think where though - is that with the patch?
[23:30:01] <awight>	 Stack includes phoneHome()
[23:30:24] <awight>	 yeah I'm trying to run 255065 (wish I did this more often)
[23:32:41] <awight>	 oops, I have 404s.  One moment
[23:34:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Eileen: "Good points. The action list on the report does still give the pop-up to change the title - but when you choose it from the all reports or" (3 comments) [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253830 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117166) (owner: Eileen)
[23:35:08] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising research, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830176 (ellery) Sorry for chiming in so late, but the name "Fundraising-Research" is misleading. This board is for coordinating fundraising ana...
[23:35:16] <eileen>	 I just stopping for a bite - will check back to see if you figured them after that
[23:48:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Eileen: "Just thinking - I think the reason I left off the pop-up was that I figured that if you are using the link from the report then you have p" [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253830 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117166) (owner: Eileen)
[23:49:04] <eileen>	 any joy with the 404s?
[23:50:11] <awight>	 I'm getting too many ADHD requests at the moment :(
[23:50:29] <awight>	 lemme just run the merger elsewise
[23:50:47] <eileen>	 ok - maybe on staging?
[23:52:24] <awight>	 it's ok, I made a duplicate pair I could search for locally
[23:52:42] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Analysis, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830191 (DarTar) @ellery I am changing the component name to #Fundraising-Analysis for consistency with other audience teams' project names (e.g...
[23:52:45] <awight>	 The interface is growing on me!  Should I worry?
[23:52:58] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Analysis, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1830192 (DarTar)
[23:53:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Awight: [C: 2 V: 1] CRM-17454 fix slow dedupe query (1 comment) [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255065 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116886) (owner: Eileen)
[23:53:49] <eileen>	 awight: YES
[23:54:20] <eileen>	 btw - I think it would be easy to remove some rows from the merge screen- ie. the calculated custom data
[23:54:24] <wikibugs>	 Fundraising-Analysis, Phabricator, Project-Creators, Research-and-Data: Spaces request for Fundraising-Analysis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119258#1822176 (DarTar) @ellery @atgo @mpopov this will also need to be changed from a component to a team-type project with an active board.
[23:55:56] * awight slices off pieces of retina exposed to dedupe interface
[23:56:08] <awight>	 yes, there are definitely improvements to be made.
[23:56:18] <awight>	 I do like the "smart" interface trajectory tho
[23:56:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Ejegg: "This looks safe to me. If it's gone forever, want to remove the #where-content CSS rules too (webitects.css, webitects.ie6.css)?" [extensions/DonationInterface] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255280 (owner: Pcoombe)
[23:57:01] <eileen>	 yeah - I could pull in the PR against master & see if we want any of those changes (he's wanting someone to review it)
[23:58:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: CRM-17454 fix slow dedupe query [wikimedia/fundraising/crm/civicrm] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255065 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116886) (owner: Eileen)
[23:59:43] <eileen>	 awight: this one is low prioritiy - but super-trivial https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/254356/ if you want to review that too