[17:05:28] Seddon: ping [17:05:47] Hauskatze: Sup! [17:06:06] Seddon: I'm having troubles with a CentralNotice banner setup [17:06:11] can I have your help? [17:06:26] it's for the steward elections, they start tomorrow [17:06:34] the old banners stopped working :/ [17:06:52] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Centralnotice-template-stewnoms <--banner with the new v2 template [17:07:00] Hauskatze: Seddon: boo! I'm here too if needed :) [17:07:04] * AndyRussG dusts off stalkwords [17:07:26] AndyRussG: Should be alright! I think I know what the problem is already without looking [17:07:38] Hauskatze: Will take a look! [17:07:40] and displays currently as https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Kazakhstan/Statute&banner=stewnoms&uselang=en&force=1 [17:07:53] a bit too big, and not sure if the script is working [17:07:59] thanks all :D [17:08:11] I was already going to have a heart attack heh [17:10:14] Hauskatze: So this is what I see currently [17:10:23] * Hauskatze listens [17:10:31] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6QzrSHDM/image.png [17:11:03] Seddon: yep, do you think it's okay? [17:11:11] Could you share a screenshot of what you see? [17:11:27] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Kazakhstan/Statute&banner=stewnoms&uselang=en&force=1 <-- ? [17:11:40] Hauskatze: I mean on your browser :) [17:11:55] do you know a website to post the screenshot? [17:12:13] I can upload one to Meta but, heh :) [17:13:57] https://onpaste.com/ [17:15:41] Seddon: https://i.imgur.com/1lh0wFp.png [17:17:57] on aawikibooks I cannot see the campaign even with &force=1 [17:17:59] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&subaction=noticeDetail¬ice=test [17:18:07] I'm running that banner in that test campaign [17:18:20] and gave +sysop myself there so I could see the banner [17:18:21] Seddon: cool :) [17:18:24] but no success [17:20:38] Hauskatze: I'm going to go in an make some minor changes [17:20:53] Seddon: feel free, whatever you think it's better [17:20:59] & thanks so much [17:21:55] aawiki does not display the banner either :| [17:26:12] Hauskatze: So i'm not too sure about the aawiki issue [17:26:24] Seddon: it's working there now [17:26:32] Hauskatze: Awesome! [17:26:34] I forgot to check the "legacy" checkbox [17:27:08] Hauskatze: I've tested it on my community en.wiki admin account and on my meta where I don't have admin and all works wonderfully as expected [17:27:47] Seddon: the banner should only be displayed to admins, can we amend the script so it works? [17:28:41] Hauskatze: It does work :) I am an en.wiki admin. It shows to me on en.wiki and doesn't show on meta where I am not an admin on my non-staff account [17:28:53] Seddon: awesome :D [17:29:09] and what about the banner size, etc? don't you think it's a bit large? [17:29:13] Hauskatze: I'm just making some final stylistic changes [17:29:38] awesome, it's just great we can have your help, many thanks :) [17:30:39] Hauskatze: It's a little larger than historically but that is the usual sacrifice for good mobile compatibility [17:30:59] ah, if that's so, then okay :) [17:34:53] aawikibooks is still the problem but I'm not sure why :/ [17:35:53] do the settings at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&subaction=noticeDetail¬ice=2018+Steward+elections look sane to you? [17:36:07] 50% traffic + 2 banners per day per user [17:37:56] Hauskatze: yeah that seems fine [17:38:21] okay so banner should start running at 00:00 of Jan 15 [17:38:46] when the time comes, we will switch the banner for the election banner [17:38:52] which also needs tweaking [17:39:00] as I posted on your talk page :) [17:39:30] Hauskatze: understood. [17:39:41] Hauskatze: I am thinking about making a mobile only banner [17:39:49] Hauskatze: and dropping the second line of text for it [17:40:13] hmm could work [17:40:21] Hauskatze: I think the second line is mildly redundant anyway [17:40:40] Hauskatze: But it would make for a better mobile banner definitely [17:41:06] do you think it is worth? I don't have much metrics but candidating requires creating statements, posting templates, etc... I'm not sure it can be done through a mobile but your call :) [17:41:50] Hauskatze: It's something that I think is important particularly for emerging internet countries who heavily lean toward mobile use. [17:42:13] Hauskatze: Do I think it will generate much? No. Do I think the gesture is an important one? I think so. [17:42:35] Seddon: I understand that you'll use the same campaign but will have two banners, one for desktop and other for mobile devices? [17:42:47] Hauskatze: Yep [17:42:52] good thing then [17:43:11] Hauskatze: The translations will also call from the main stewnoms banner [17:43:15] it's because I know somewhat how CN works, but I'm not sure my fellow stewards have the same acquaitance [17:43:52] Seddon: that's good indeed, so we don't have to re-do translations [17:44:04] Hauskatze: I was thinking about running a CN workshop at somepoint. [17:44:21] Seddon: yep, you told me I think [17:44:25] good idea fwiw [17:44:35] Hauskatze: I can't turn people into developers (not that I consider myself one) but I can make people feel more comfortable with this tool [17:44:44] although I think at some point CN extension need to be revamped [17:44:50] its slow sometimes, etc [17:45:14] I understand that its mostly for fundraising tech devs, still it'd be good to de-rough it a bit [17:45:38] Hauskatze: Want to see something? [17:46:02] Hauskatze: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralNotice/Design_Research_2017 [17:46:15] Hauskatze: this is like..... seriously early in the process [17:46:33] Hauskatze: We haven't even presented it interally yet. [17:46:46] well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that CN could benefit from a redesign :D [17:47:07] well, I know things are slow [17:47:23] but given that's for FR they may go a bit faster [17:54:28] Hauskatze: It's difficult because CN has a userbase that is extremely small. Even though it's impact is huge global and record setting [17:55:28] Seddon: Yes, I understand. [17:55:35] I've deactivated the 'test' campaign [18:02:24] Hauskatze: So I suggest we launch with the current banner. If I get a chance to finish this mobile specific banner then we can add it in and split between the two [18:02:36] Seddon: I think we've got a problem with the script; as it does not display on some projects [18:02:44] ie I'm testing again on mediawikiwiki [18:02:49] where I've got +sysop [18:02:53] and I can't see it [18:03:45] now it does :| [18:03:54] CN is trolling me [18:05:03] Hauskatze: Can you give my volunteer account admin temporarily on MediaWiki wiki [18:05:15] which is? [18:05:16] User:Seddon [18:05:24] sure, I don't think they'll complain [18:05:38] Hauskatze: That was my thinking :P [18:06:07] done [18:07:49] Hauskatze: Yeah it's working for me. [18:07:59] Hauskatze: Okay you can remove the admin from that account [18:08:46] done as well [18:09:04] okay so the noms campaign is set to start at 08:00 tomorrow [18:09:28] I've delayed it a bit given that a tool we use to check the elegibility of the candidates will not be ready [18:14:42] Hauskatze: No worries! [18:15:13] Seddon: will CentralNotice work if I switch the content model of the MediaWiki page hosting the code from wikitext to CSS? [18:15:27] it looks better: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Centralnotice-template-stewnoms [18:16:03] Hauskatze: I have absolutely no idea..... how did you do that? [18:16:15] Special:ChangeContentModel [18:16:22] new fancy feature [18:16:34] I'll keep it as it was before [18:24:08] got to go, thanks much for your help