[13:09:48] o/ Saqib [13:10:06] helo [13:10:17] howdy [13:28:54] :) [13:29:02] a question [13:29:13] there are many paki journalists and news anchors have WP bios [13:29:25] some are popular but they never got press coverage [13:29:35] at least not in indepedent sources [13:29:41] should their articles be removed ? [13:29:57] for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sana_Bucha [13:30:00] look at sources [13:30:26] some ref are affiliated with sana buchat while other are twitter alerts [13:30:28] hello anup [13:30:44] maybe anup can help with this too.. [13:30:44] Hi Saqib, [13:30:53] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vY3iZ7o6 [13:30:56] What with? [13:31:01] Looking.. [13:31:03] i just pasted [13:31:55] now she is popolar here.. [13:31:58] I've heard of Bucha.. [13:32:07] yes [13:32:14] Yes, she is. I think, she justifies an article for here on Wikipedia. [13:32:15] and then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Bukhari [13:32:30] but sources are not reliable [13:32:31] Meher.. sounds familiar [13:32:37] yes meher is popular too [13:33:09] India and Pakistan related sources are not indexed properly by Google.. that's y we face trouble finding sources online. [13:33:17] hmm [13:33:25] so is it fine to leave those articles ? [13:33:29] For India, I made on www.searchindiannews.in to find Indian related sources.. [13:33:34] nice [13:33:46] I recently save many India related articles at Afd.. [13:33:50] hmm [13:34:07] It'd be nice if someone makes one for Pakistan too. [13:34:12] hmm [13:34:15] www.google.com/cse [13:34:38] Custom Search Engine, just define on there index..to all Pakistani newspapers and magazines..to search into. [13:34:55] i c [13:35:54] Got few sources for Meher on Indiansearchengine, they are affiliated with Samma Tv.. [13:36:17] now with dawn [13:36:23] oh ok. [13:36:25] i got it [13:36:56] !link List of Pakistani newspapers [13:37:06] @link List of Pakistani newspapers [13:37:06] This is not a valid link [13:37:11] What? [13:37:21] @link [[List of Pakistani newspapers]] [13:37:21] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/List_of_Pakistani_newspapers [13:37:32] Ouch! [13:37:35] np [13:37:49] It works differently in here.. all links are pointed to wiki.wikimedia.in [13:38:02] yes [13:38:04] It works good in wikipedia-en-help... [13:38:16] @! Saqib [13:38:24] @ Saqib [13:38:36] @ [[Saqib]] [13:38:42] idk how it work [13:38:43] @seen Saqib [13:38:45] anyway leave it [13:38:49] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 2.6.2.0 [libirc v. 1.0.2] my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [13:38:49] @help [13:39:11] i really want to cleanup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pakistani_people_by_occupation [13:39:17] but its really difficult [13:39:24] i mean [13:39:37] couldnt find sources but who know they warrant articles [13:39:54] I think, If I get a list of Pakistani reliable sources (newspapers, magazines, etc.), I can make one for Pakistan as well.. to improve related articles. [13:40:32] by improving you mean.. deletion ? [13:40:40] or expanding the articles / [13:40:43] It's really hard to find old sources online.. When you google something, it shows recent ones and other unwated nothing to do with keyword. [13:40:48] yes [13:40:56] Nope.. By improving..I mean, expand article.. [13:41:04] Find sources, use them to write contents.. [13:41:27] By improve, rescue articles from deletion.. [13:41:40] so there are not many english pakistani newspaper .. most are urdu.. [13:41:58] this is one problem [13:42:09] and googling urdu wont work at all [13:42:15] Ah, that's another problem... [13:42:26] because most of urdu sites publish text images [13:42:42] People like me could not be able to help, if wanted to...because I don;t know that language. [13:42:43] recently some started to publish text.. [13:42:49] yes [13:42:51] me too. [13:43:45] How many you think, are active contributors at WP-Pakistan? [13:45:28] not so many [13:45:31] There are ~200 listed as members, if they are group and encourage to improve related articles, we can make a urdu search engine as well. [13:45:35] i think less than 50 dedicated guys [13:45:55] no one will be interested i know [13:46:13] have approached them previously for something but no one responded [13:46:51] Ugh, there appears to be only 2-3 active at Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_Pakistan-related_topics [13:47:23] They think, it is somebody's else work..not ours. [13:48:10] @link [13:48:10] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Saqib [13:48:19] yes [13:48:22] @link Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_Pakistan-related_topics [13:48:22] This is not a valid link [13:48:27] :p [13:48:32] CutestPenguin : Hi, [13:48:33] i know it [13:48:43] Hello! Anup [13:48:44] It is not en-help bot @CutestPenguin, [13:48:44] paki sucks [13:49:04] I was trying ;) @anup [13:49:21] Saqib : Nope, you are Paki as well and you don't. XD Jk. [13:49:31] i am hoping to do a program to bring more editors [13:49:45] CutestPenguin : How's weather around? [13:50:08] here cold [13:50:17] Saqib, Actually there are editors. But they are misguided, I handle many account creation requests from Pakistan at ACC. [13:50:33] i c [13:50:40] sizzling due to exams but in actual its cold [13:50:53] actually most dont know well how to constructevly edit [13:51:33] Saqib, yes, but how would they unles one tell them what is constructive edit.. [13:52:04] CutestPenguin : I've natural talent to sleep 20hrs a day in Winter days. [13:52:19] Yes, 20. I can sleep a day long. [13:52:29] right . but its not that easy to explain individually to everyone how to… [13:52:51] no one explain me and you [13:53:02] i think lack of interest too [13:53:03] Yes, but very first but time to time. [13:53:10] It means you are a tiger, they sleep for 18-2-hrs of day. [13:53:15] I've made some silly edits in my early days.. [13:53:37] anyway… [13:53:37] CuteestPenguin : Tigers remind me of 'Himmatwala', please don't again. :( [13:53:53] hows modi ? [13:53:55] Especially, at Afd.. [13:54:08] Modi, is busy with his Russian counterpart. [13:54:13] yes heard [13:54:16] Putin is in-here. [13:54:29] and pakis are getting jealous [13:54:33] Ok, [13:54:35] i saw this on news too much time [13:54:47] He was speaking Hinglish..live today on TV without taking a look at any paper.. Excellent. [13:54:55] nice [13:55:10] Saqib your favorite, Mr. Modi welcomed him in Russian on twitter. [13:55:24] oh [13:55:35] Eh, He must have copy-pasted it from Google Translate. [13:55:49] tactics [13:55:51] haaha [13:55:54] He's Twitter PM.. Our modern Pm.. [13:55:57] hope we will copy the same [13:56:23] well ours too [13:56:52] perhaps [13:56:53] i am not sure [13:57:19] At very first, people are unsure about things, then **** happens. xD [13:57:52] Anup are you on MTNL network ? [13:58:04] Not anymore.. [13:58:18] I donated sim card to another friend.. who landed in here last year. [13:58:36] Voda is good for me, [13:58:50] And what about the Broadband ? [13:59:23] I never had that.. [13:59:38] I've RealNet Wired Network, [13:59:46] I'm using MTNLs [13:59:51] 800/- per month unlimited.. [13:59:53] and today it seems to be very slow [14:00:06] I use 30-40gb per day. D [14:00:07] Is it WiFi? [14:00:13] Nope, wired. [14:00:52] Huh! 30-40 GB, even my sever does not uses that much bandwidth [14:00:52] The wire has made my flat wi-fi, though (hotspot software on laptop). [14:01:11] We (I and my friend) -download movies more often. [14:01:43] I use ~1gb refereshing Wikipedia pages.. [14:02:07] I never measure that ;) [14:02:24] I condem Pirated stuffs, but when it comes to movies..I go speechless. [14:02:54] Anup, Saqib its dinner time for me. Both of you are invited :p [14:02:55] We had some statistics things that show up on every login.. [14:03:02] That [14:03:04] no thanks [14:03:04] s [14:03:10] i dont eat veg [14:03:11] CutestPenguin : Ah, that'd be too early for me.. [14:03:18] i mean i am not veg [14:03:40] do you have some meat in dinner? [14:03:43] Today I missed my lunch [14:04:03] CutestPenguin : What's in dinner, btw? If something interesting, I think, I can ride metro to reach you. :D [14:04:26] Hmmm.... Saqib nope, In my family only me is veg. [14:04:29] CutestPenguin : Paper? [14:04:44] hmm [14:04:45] ok go [14:04:47] have it [14:04:55] N.A its matar paneer and roti [14:05:28] Now..the all Indian holy Tv channels are singing praise for Indian cricket team.. [14:05:44] And, Johnson did hit Kohli on head with his bouncer. [14:11:37] Saqib, are you still there? [14:11:41] yes [14:11:54] :) [14:12:05] I wanted to say, if I could be able to help someway, I'll be happy to do it.. [14:12:42] sure [14:12:49] noted [14:13:00] btw are you with OTRS ? [14:13:06] commons OTRs [14:13:11] Nope, still not. [14:13:24] Commons, nah, can't be there in near future.. [14:13:44] hmm [14:13:47] May be involved with enwp-otrs sometime soon, [14:14:12] ok [14:14:16] I've not very much active at commons, I go there only to nominate copyvio images that link me from enwp. [14:14:57] me too [14:15:02] Similarily, I go at meta only, to translate documents/pages from English to Hindi, [14:15:02] not active here [14:15:31] Wiki-data, to fill in missing properties that link me up from enwp articles. [14:16:07] btw do you have paki news channels in india? [14:16:16] we dont have indian news channels here [14:16:21] banned [14:16:33] Nah, my operator dont show any.. Not sure, banned or not. [14:16:37] hmm [14:16:39] censored [14:16:46] I do watch Al-Jazeera sometimes, [14:16:51] btw indian news channel are funny [14:17:01] the way they broadcast breaking news [14:17:17] Some channels work in collaboration with Paki news channels.. and show us their screens. [14:17:25] hmm [14:17:30] must be times of india channels [14:17:35] Yeh, they show breaking news all the times. [14:18:33] Nah, the time I spotted Paki channel on ours, were Geo and Sun and Samay perhaps, on ours Zee Tv, NDTV, India News Tv. [14:18:44] btw are you following protests happending in pak [14:19:37] Nah, I'm disconnected from that. Earlier our channels were having coverage on there, now they don't have.. [14:20:03] Until something happens bad, they wont show us what's happening out there in neighbour. [14:20:30] Today, they showed Musharraf, telling Kargil was a revenge of Bangladesh 1971 war. That's all. [14:21:50] Breaking news here -Modi said that youth must given employment. Russia-India will work on 20 Nuclear reactors. [14:23:37] nice [14:23:39] Saqib, this may be of your interest, editors editing/writing Pakistan related articles, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Pakistan/New_articles //Spot them, invite them to WP-Pakistan, make alive the WikiProject. [14:23:50] yes i know it [14:24:28] Ouch, there appears to none invitation template to WP-Pakistan. [14:25:31] hmm [14:25:39] there is one [14:25:53] cant recall the link [14:26:18] I dont see any here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Pakistan/Templates [14:26:46] hmm.. but there is one.. and one user was spreading it [14:27:34] May be in there user space, /https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Pakistan_invitation is not a valid link, [14:29:45] However, you may easily convert it into a valid one, coping contents from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anup/sandbox and making one or many. [14:31:20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:69.165.246.175#WP:PAK [14:32:11] Anup check this out >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#INCOTM_-_Where.27s_the_collaboration.3F [14:32:37] Looking.. [14:36:53] A delisted good article.. may regain its throne again. [14:38:18] anyways guy . i am going away for few mins [14:38:25] However, I'm interested to work into Ashoka related articles and bring them all to at least GA status. [14:38:33] Have a good time, Saqib. [14:38:40] And me in Indian Politics [14:39:02] Politics? eh! [14:39:20] Who's your fav. politician, beside Modi? [14:39:41] AP [14:39:55] AP..umm.. [14:40:09] Sorry, but who is AP? [14:40:26] All I can guess nearer to AP is AJ -Jately. [14:40:41] Or AK, Kejri.. [14:40:58] atal bihari vajpayee [14:41:18] I meant AB [14:41:41] How is the abbreviation AP make sense for Vajpayee, --now as I had typed it, I posted it. [14:42:11] * CutestPenguin meant AB [14:42:28] He is not active, that way, I'll say, Jagjivan, that thrilled Congress at its best. [14:44:03] Congress! [14:44:10] I was not interested in politics, when Vajpayee was PM of India. I remember a gov. that fell down due onion's price rise. [14:44:40] And, BJP had its turn with Vajpayee.. [14:49:17] :)