[15:30:41] Hi ravidreams [15:30:52] Hi Sailesh [15:31:07] hello all :) [15:31:14] Hello all [15:31:29] Hi Niharika, are you a Wikipedian by any chance? :) [15:31:41] Let me go catch all Indian Wikimedians with a green light in FB :) [15:31:59] ha ha [15:32:08] Where are other Odia Wikimedians? [15:32:13] me too. :) [15:32:50] Hi subha. I work for Wikimedia Foundation but I'm not an active editor. Does that comply with your definition of "Wikipedian"? :) [15:32:56] Sailesh, you're the leader. I should be asking you. [15:33:47] Niharika, yup. Anyone contributing to the movement is a Wikimedian. :) Nice to meet you here. [15:33:54] Subha bhai :3 (This smiley is the best answer) [15:33:55] Hi Bodhisattwa [15:33:59] Nice to meet you too subha! [15:34:02] hi bodhi [15:34:12] Bodhisattwa is the first FB wicket :) [15:34:17] Hey Netha. [15:34:20] Netha second :) [15:34:31] jkavadoor, hi [15:34:42] Hello, everyone! [15:34:47] Pmlineditor [15:34:49] Hi Netha [15:34:56] Back? [15:37:04] ?? [15:37:14] Thinking of starting at 9.10 [15:37:27] Hi tonythomas [15:37:45] Wow, I'm meeting so many new people on IRC. :) Good job Ravi! [15:38:20] hello subha ! [15:39:30] Thanks, Subha [15:39:33] Thn we are all set to start [15:39:38] Everyone, please introduce yourself, your community and home wiki so we know each other. [15:39:41] yeah [15:39:56] subas__: Sir Namaskar [15:40:05] To give a quick intro, this is the second in series of community discussions. First chat with Punjabi happened two weeks before. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_11,_2015 [15:40:21] We hope to continue this to introduce ourselves across communities [15:40:25] namaskar [15:40:38] So, I leave it to the Odia Wikipedians to introduce themselves and also the projects [15:41:30] Hi, I am Bodhisattwa from Bengali Wikipedia [15:41:52] I am Subas Chandra Rout from Odia Wikipedia. [15:41:59] I am Ravi from which wikipedia :) Confused Bangalorean :) [15:42:45] A word on how your first Odia Wikipedia will be great [15:42:54] how you first knew [15:43:28] Sailesh: ? [15:43:46] My name is Subhashish. I am an Odia Wikipedian and I am with the Centre for Internet and Society's Access To Knowledge program. [15:44:47] Hello am the only jobeless person on Odia Wiki [15:45:06] same here Sailesh [15:45:16] :-) [15:45:35] Sailesh, I am also jobless. [15:45:47] Hello sailesh, you have assured to get back to your school exams after this chat :) [15:46:22] Seriously, how did you guys know about and started contributing to or wiki? [15:46:27] Yeah , Ravi yesterday i got scolding from my parents :P [15:46:29] search? Outreach? [15:47:04] let us talk about the subject of discussion. [15:47:42] I was introduced to Odia Wikipedia by Asutosh Kar then in details by Shiju Alex. :) [15:48:37] I got myself introduced through facebook. [15:48:53] I forgot [15:48:56] :-) [15:48:57] I was reading an article about Indo-Pak war 1972 , and bymistake selected India's article then found there about Odia language Wiki and by god's grace the very next day there was Bhubaneswar Wiki workshop [15:49:28] wow [15:49:37] I see lot of interlinks in the outreach [15:49:41] and was introduced to wiki by Manoranjan bhai then subha bhai [15:50:14] Bodhisattwa: This chat will be focussed on Odia community. Feel free to seek clarifications from them and share best practices from Bangla community [15:50:46] ok [15:51:22] Now am mainly focusing on outreach programs due to lack of knowledge in odia literature [15:52:08] subha: Trying to understand the project history by seeing http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryOR.htm [15:52:41] Looks like there were 1 or 2 editors around 2007 [15:52:49] Are anyone from that time still there [15:53:29] Subha can better tell. [15:53:31] I don't think so. :/ [15:53:58] So the currently active set of editors are all from 2011 [15:53:59] We all started becoming active after 2011. [15:54:05] coinciding with the Bangalore meetups? [15:54:20] I think Shiju took an interest in Odia community then? [15:54:34] I started in 2012. [15:54:44] yup, Bangalore is where the community started meeting, then it was Cuttack. Wow. I feel nostalgic. :) [15:54:46] Gresat [15:54:54] hah [15:54:54] a [15:55:26] Shiju took interest from the very beginning before all of all. He still asks me questions and shares interesting ideas. :) [15:55:34] Both Punjabi and Odia's good experince with closely tied outreach makes me think how we can make outreaches in general more effective [15:55:49] We didn't have much luck with that in ta wiki [15:55:57] doing regular meetups in same place is rare for us [15:56:16] Shiju is undercover now :) [15:56:19] true [15:56:32] ha ha, only i get to meet him! B| [15:56:50] subha: You are a special agent :) [15:56:50] But why ? [15:57:07] Who's Shizu O.o [15:57:07] ha ha [15:57:23] Shiju is taking an interest towards WikiSource [15:57:35] digitization of old Malayalam literature etc., [15:57:49] It is natural for long active people to take break and retunr [15:57:52] Let's hope so [15:58:19] So, when the community got active in 2012, were there any focus areas? [15:58:34] Like content about Odisa, Odiya literature etc., [15:58:43] Do you have a lot of content about few topics? [15:58:51] Like sports and movies [15:58:54] Sailesh, Meet Shiju: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shijualex [15:59:11] Who's Shizu O.o :) [15:59:14] Nice title :) [15:59:47] We have good content in medical science [15:59:54] jagannath culture [15:59:55] One should concentrate on one aspect, called focus. Shiju is doing that. [16:00:49] subas__ sir has put a lot of efforts over all these years to contribute to medicine related articles on Odia Wikipedia. [16:01:35] Articles related some of the places in Odisha are well covered. [16:01:53] I think we are doing a lot for Odia wikisource. [16:02:39] Good to know [16:02:53] Thanks Subha for the compliment. [16:02:54] Do you take an interest in global lists like 1000 articles every Wikipedia should have [16:03:10] Is there a popular demand for content? Users asking to create articles on some topics [16:03:25] Or search engine trends you can assess through blogs ect., [16:03:42] All hail Mrutyunjaya Kar and Aditya Mahar for the articles related to places. Pritiranjan Tripathy has contributed quite a lot of articles related to notable people from Odisha. [16:03:47] subas__: Sir, we will come to Wikisource in second part of the discussion [16:03:57] Ravi, yes. but it is customized :) [16:04:16] How? [16:04:33] I just checked https://or.wikipedia.org/s/m7 randomly to see how place related articles are written [16:05:00] most of the articles are related to Odia language, culture and Odisha [16:05:18] Ravi the problem is that the contributors in Odia wiki are limisted and they are focusing on their specific interests. :) [16:05:29] https://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RA [16:06:22] Mr Gorvachove induced me to medicine chapter and then eclipse. He wrote a lot of articles. [16:07:02] Sailesh: I am pretty much used to that scenario [16:07:11] We have almost 5000+ articles about world cricketrs [16:07:13] He was a one-day batsman. :) [16:07:24] Just because of one Tamil Wikipedian called Punniyameen [16:07:42] We have another one, Diptiman who starts and writes long articles with one single edit. [16:07:48] I am live logging this chat at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_25,_2015 [16:07:50] (y) [16:08:25] Yes Subha, you are correct. [16:08:44] Do you have a category of main page articles or featured articles [16:09:37] https://or.wikipedia.org/s/qyc [16:09:43] 5000 articles about different matches or about players? [16:09:54] Sailesh: Besides individual interest we do also focus on some vital global lists [16:10:02] different players [16:10:33] Ravi : Thats why Tamil Wiki is ranked 2 [16:10:47] ravidreams: here is the category: https://or.wikipedia.org/s/bqz [16:11:10] Err, we won't accept rank 2 :) [16:11:23] We have main page article. We have not rated as featured article though I have translate many of them. [16:12:00] hahaha :D [16:12:33] That's OK. We also don't call them featured articles as they need to be of high standards [16:12:38] we call them mainpage articles [16:13:29] I think 9PM is a bit late, Next time make it 8.30PM. [16:13:48] and also give medals [16:13:57] so people are encouraged to write more lengthy articles [16:14:29] subas__: Thanks for the feedback, Sir. Some of the officegoers might find 8.30 PM too early [16:14:42] let's try different timings and see what works [16:14:44] we are jobeless ;P [16:15:27] Going forward, do you have some planned content activity? [16:15:40] ravidreams: you could probably share a few best practices about medals. Many new editors never respond to the messages on their Talk pages. [16:16:18] Do you have WikiLove enabled [16:17:24] 9PM chat will end after say one to 1 and half hour. It will be late. Wives will be angry. [16:17:41] Sir, please feel free to excuse :) [16:17:46] People are getting interested for wiki but we are facing difficulties to catch them [16:17:46] safety first :) [16:17:57] ravidreams: yes, at times extra doses of Rasagola and Masala Mudhi as well. :p [16:19:08] as sometime when i check recent changes there are many account openers but not a single edits from them [16:19:08] Well, WikiLove just works for us and even experinced editors collect medals in one page [16:19:23] but they haven't helped them to taste all of them and respond back. :/ [16:19:24] Subha should b able to tell about planned content activity. [16:19:31] We don't face the new user not reponding problem after the mediawiki notifications were enabled [16:19:53] Hi all, sorry for late [16:20:02] Sailesh: New user accounts not editing is normal behaviour [16:20:11] People open accounts for various reasons [16:20:14] Gyan, MKar asigale. :) [16:20:35] Ravi : if you can explain it well about media wiki notifications [16:20:39] Subha bhai : [16:20:44] Hari Bolo [16:20:49] Hi Mrutyunjaya [16:20:49] :) [16:20:56] Hi [16:21:04] Check live log of current chat at [16:21:04] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_25,_2015 [16:21:34] any specific question for me ? [16:22:05] Hi everyone. Sorry for the delayed arrival. Please ignore this message and continue. [16:22:07] why you were late :P [16:23:03] Replying back to what subas__ sir asked, short term planned content activities have worked well [16:23:16] Hi Gyan [16:23:21] May I be excused for the time being. [16:23:22] MKar: could tell about it and i will chip in [16:23:50] Like http://od.2015.wikiwomen.in/ ? [16:24:01] yes ravidreams [16:24:04] MKar: We were generally discussing about the project [16:24:11] No specific questions [16:24:33] Feel free to give a quick intro about you, how you came to know about odia wiki [16:25:46] I am user:MKar, homewiki: OdiaWP, other projects: HiWP, EnWP, Commons, Wikidata etc.. [16:26:32] Sailesh: Those are the small FB like bubble you see next to your username [16:26:56] subha: A liberal dose of WikiLove among active editors themselves can help [16:27:35] we do share a lot of wikilove, may be it could be increased for good. :) [16:27:44] Yes [16:28:14] MKar: Thanks, how did you know abt Odia Wiki. Sorry for the boringly formal qn. Just trying to understand how different communities spread [16:28:23] I came to know about Odia wiki while I was browing casually, and during the initial days Subha and Ansuman helped me to learn the Wiki culture, and now I am learning from all the users... [16:28:35] Since, we are running out of time, let me paste some quick links [16:28:44] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Technical_Help_Desk - Any tech help, please request here [16:29:00] i have not received a wiki love till date :3 [16:29:47] Sailesh, be prepared of your talk page being flooded now! :p [16:30:31] we run an activity on Facebook where we publicly appreciate new and active Wikimedians with their contribution [16:30:40] subha: You left the kid without love. Sob Sob :) [16:30:46] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05PoBbwsZV0 [16:30:54] Odia community is featured here and also at [16:31:05] MKar: could tell more about the activity as he actively does that. [16:31:11] (y) [16:31:15] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-Il0S87eE [16:31:58] ravidreams: the kid got more real love and love in many other occasions. :) [16:32:11] Ya ofcourse :) [16:32:23] True that :) [16:32:39] but he has done incredible job in the recent past and i'm requesting everyone to share more love on his wall. :) [16:32:44] Subas Sir interview here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17zYff0e6pk [16:33:36] You can apply for small Infrastructure support at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Infrastructure_Scholarship [16:35:09] I recently had a look at your Village pump and was happy to see many voting decisions [16:35:13] signs of a maturing community [16:35:41] Would you like to share any quick questions, updates from Odia community before we talk about WikiSource [16:36:44] Yeah we need some help for our upcoming event [16:37:45] ? [16:37:45] https://or.wikipedia.org/s/s16 [16:38:05] I want all indian communities to be a part of it [16:38:54] even i will discuss about this event with tourism minister of Odisha (now budget session is going on) [16:39:26] Sailesh, we all will see how to support in any way possible [16:39:41] can we take this off this chat and discuss separately [16:41:27] I have a quick project idea. Want to see if Odia Community is eager to launch it first in India :) [16:42:37] please do share :) [16:42:59] yeah :) [16:43:02] I was checking https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/29i2 [16:43:08] The tamil article for Puri [16:43:18] was so sad to see such a small article about this important place [16:43:28] I guess the situation will be same in many other Indian wikis [16:43:55] Problem is I don't know what are the most important topics about Odisha and Odia people, culture ect., [16:44:08] we have global lists butnot regional lists [16:44:21] So, thinking some thing like [16:44:22] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/12/08/inaugural-monuments-of-spain-challenge-completed/ [16:44:41] What I need is a list of 30 most important topoics about Odia [16:45:03] and a list of 300 most important topics about Odia [16:45:09] This will be expanded list [16:45:14] yeah it is good :) [16:45:21] We can ask other language communities to write about thse [16:45:39] Kind of outreach for whole culture, community in multiple languages [16:46:03] 1 article a day. 30 articles a month. [16:46:11] other communties will work [16:46:14] this sounds like a good idea [16:46:16] you just need to give list :) [16:46:29] Ofcourse, next month will be another language / state and you can participate :) [16:46:38] #30OdiaWikiDays [16:46:46] cool [16:46:51] (y) [16:46:57] little long but could be a hashtag and run for a month. :) [16:47:10] The communities that complete 300 list will get small prize :) [16:47:21] Nice Idea [16:47:25] 300 list is for ever [16:47:32] 30 is the real immediate taregt [16:47:35] Nice videos Ravi [16:47:37] achievable small targts [16:47:57] Gyan: Thanks [16:48:20] will be a very good Indic project [16:48:26] So, can I get the 30 list byApril 1? [16:48:39] I can assure at least one community will jump on this [16:48:47] Guess, which :) [16:48:48] (y) [16:48:52] sure [16:48:55] Punjabi? :p [16:49:00] Bingp [16:49:03] Bingo [16:49:05] ha ha ha [16:49:11] You spoiled the surprise I had :( [16:49:42] This can be fun and encourage interwiki collaboration and exposure too [16:49:55] OK then ! Too happy this is getting shaped [16:50:03] can we move to other odia wiki projects [16:50:05] But i can assure Odia wiki will create articles with good content ;) [16:50:11] ravidreams: sorry saar! [16:50:43] Plan anything when Sailesh and Satdeep are there :) [16:50:46] All active Indic Wikimedians know about Satdeep and his efforts :) [16:51:02] (y) [16:51:14] (y) [16:51:21] MKar: Before you and Gyan came, all Odia Wikimdian names were starting with S :) [16:51:29] i want to be of their age now. :D [16:51:44] lol [16:53:07] How is Odia Wiktionary doing [16:53:38] the most succesful Wikimedia sister project in Odia [16:53:57] So Sailesh has a plan for a Odia Wiki challenge. He might share about this before we move to the Wiktionary. [16:54:12] ok [16:54:17] not many active users at wiktionary :( [16:54:30] Shitikantha is managing Wiktionary [16:54:31] That i mentioned earlier [16:55:12] we are working on a project to increase Jagannath culture related article on every indic language wiki [16:56:01] even if Asian wikipedias will get involved in it , it will be great [16:56:04] yes, sailesh [16:56:07] go on [16:56:22] How many articles are thes [16:56:27] we will call for an IRC for this discussion [16:56:36] Ravi as you have explained me [16:56:40] during TTT [16:56:46] and this is for the upcoming Nabakalebara which is going to be one of India's largest gathering and happening after 19 years. [16:57:23] it is believed more than 50lakh pilgrims will gather there [16:58:00] and i want both Odia and Bengali community to do it collaboratively :) [16:58:04] Thats all [16:58:19] need views and opinions [16:58:58] Ravi : I like the header in ta wiki. Whts that? [16:59:26] Sailesh: Yes, let's organize a separarte IRC for this [16:59:31] Sailesh, one question at a time :D [16:59:34] and discuss thoroughly [16:59:39] is it ok [16:59:54] I'm already sold when Sailesh proposed this first. [17:00:01] Yes calls for another IRC [17:00:08] yeah :) [17:00:22] Cool [17:00:37] Sailesh: Those are banners featuring ta wiki women contributors [17:00:41] asking people to edit [17:00:49] on the occassion of women's history month [17:01:19] awesome [17:03:01] Thanks [17:03:09] Checking http://stats.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/EN/TablesWikipediaOR.htm [17:04:50] Thinking how we can quickly increase activity [17:04:54] Do you have page like https://ta.wiktionary.org/s/2en [17:05:16] This can be sort of gamification prompting people to quickly add new word [17:05:48] We created those during our early days and it helped [17:06:59] oh [17:07:06] great [17:07:15] admins please [17:07:22] look at that [17:08:20] It is great idea. [17:08:38] yes, taking account of this, looks really interesting [17:09:10] Btw, I see 30K words added in Odia wikt in last two months [17:09:17] Any interesting activity there? [17:09:18] https://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CS (help page of Odia Wikipedia) has some level of interactive features [17:09:29] but we could learn a lot from this [17:09:58] yes, Shitikantha is using a bot to add words [17:10:11] yes, that is a project by Shitikantha where he is using Purnachandra Bhasakosa (a public domain lexicon) for creating them [17:11:07] Nice [17:11:30] I add new words that I come across while editing topics in Wikisource. [17:15:22] WikiSource will be more successfull than WP as it is easy to contribute [17:16:35] Agree [17:17:27] Yes. no need to translate, only see and write. [17:17:46] we require active contributors for digitization [17:18:38] Ya, that is a million doctor question [17:19:12] I am also recently focusing more on WikiSource [17:19:28] Trying to figure out various models for growth of each language [17:20:56] am logging off. will look at the log later. :) [17:21:09] yes, we need more volunteers for all our projects [17:21:12] It was good chatting with all of you. GN :) [17:21:36] good night :) [17:21:47] Ya, getting late [17:21:48] sorry [17:21:53] I wish to develop medical articles in all indic languages. I am trying to figure out. [17:21:58] we will continue to discuss on other forums [17:22:11] sure [17:23:05] Good night. [17:23:44] Good night [17:23:49] Thanks everyone for participating [17:24:47] thank you ravi for your tireless efforsts for Indic Wikiprojects [17:24:52] good n8 [17:25:20] MKar: You are welcome :) [17:25:21] bye for today [17:25:42] bye