[01:44:57] Is there a way to kill a job with jsub? If so, how?? [01:44:59] I started one that's giving lots of errors, and I need to stop it. [01:47:34] Anyone? [01:49:07] * wolfgang42 begins panicking slightly [01:51:10] *whew* I found it: `qdel` [01:51:47] Sorry for panicking, a Google search wasn't turning anything up. [02:00:49] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Tilman Bayer, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 50556] Total number of Wikipedia articles is ca. 11 million too high - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50556 [02:52:27] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2MZMcBride, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 50634] wm-bot seems to have gone quiet in #mediawiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50634 [08:31:54] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Addshore, priority: 4High - 6enhancement) [Bug 48894] Include pagecounts dumps in datasets - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48894 [10:00:39] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Migration of Toolserver tools was modified, changed by AKlapper (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=723491 edit summary: [-6] typofix [10:00:57] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Roadmap en was modified, changed by AKlapper (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=723492 edit summary: [+16] link to Bugzilla [10:01:32] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Roadmap en was modified, changed by AKlapper (WMF) link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=723493 edit summary: [+3] Nagios got replaced by Icinga [11:46:00] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2MZMcBride, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 50634] wm-bot seems to have gone quiet in #mediawiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50634 [12:48:02] @trusted [12:48:02] I trust: petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Ryan-lane (2admin), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@nightshade.toolserver.org (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@[Ww]ikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/Cyberpower678 (2admin), .*@wirenat2\.strw\.leidenuniv\.nl (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted), [12:48:02] I trust: zhuyifei1999.* (2admin), [12:48:13] !ping [12:48:13] pong [12:48:13] it's back [12:48:13] pong [12:48:33] Unable to parse the feed from http://rss.gmane.org/messages/excerpts/gmane.org.wikimedia.labs this url is probably not a valid rss, the feed will be disabled, until you re-enable it by typing @rss+ mail [12:48:37] petan, can you voice Helpmebot? [12:48:49] Cyberpower678 what is it for? [12:49:09] Finally back [12:49:09] what it can do, that wm-bot can't? :P [12:49:10] petan, fun. :d [12:49:10] :d [12:49:11] :ED [12:49:11] :D [12:49:11] FAIL [12:50:51] @trustadd petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb admin [12:50:51] You are not authorized to perform this, sorry [12:50:51] Successfuly added petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb [12:51:17] zhuyifei1999 you know you can recompile bot with different CommandPrefix [12:51:31] so that it doesn't have @ but, for example ^ [12:51:33] YiFeiBot: o____________O *Evil* [12:51:41] YiFeiBot thanks [12:51:43] :o [12:51:45] wm-bot thanks [12:51:45] Hey petan, you are welcome! [12:51:54] :D [12:52:08] scfc_de: is it possible to ssh from -login to exec nodes? [12:52:17] yes [12:52:20] oh? [12:52:20] YuviPanda: yes [12:52:27] it should be possible [12:52:28] * YuviPanda triesw [12:52:34] petan: which file? [12:52:37] petan, you can have a lot of fun with Helpmebot. :D [12:52:41] unless Coren change it meh [12:52:45] Cyberpower678 like? [12:52:47] petan: what's the hostnames? [12:52:51] !trout petan [12:52:52] * Helpmebot smacks petan about a bit with a large trout [12:53:00] !whale petan [12:53:01] * Helpmebot throws a 3000 pound whale at petan. [12:53:02] petan: memcached on tools-mc:11211 seems to be down [12:53:10] tools-exec-0N [12:53:12] * YuviPanda whispers 'use redisd' [12:53:14] anomie will check [12:53:18] petan: which file? [12:53:26] zhuyifei1999 it's module called thanks [12:53:54] petan: public key denied? [12:54:03] anomie: whole box seems to be fucked :(( [12:54:16] YuviPanda: in that case Coren did change something :P [12:54:21] but it used to work [12:54:33] heh [12:54:36] petan: Can't find it [12:54:39] Coren doesn't believe that users being able to log to servers directly is a good idea [12:54:43] well, I don't want to ssh. Just bind to a port [12:54:47] petan: yeah, I agree with him :) [12:55:01] petan: witch log format has the Bot? [12:55:21] petan: Where? [12:55:30] petan: It is vorbidden to generate a Channel Statistik with the logs? [12:55:48] zhuyifei1999 eh, uploading... [12:55:50] zhuyifei1999 it's there [12:56:15] Steinsplitter what [12:56:37] to generate a chat statistik with the ChatLogs ? , petan [12:56:51] petan: Where's there? [12:57:16] https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot/tree/master/plugins/Thanks [12:57:25] Steinsplitter describe [12:57:48] petan: Example (Password/Username: jwp) https://triton.aquila.uberspace.de/irc-stats/jwp/ [12:58:11] !log tools rebooting -mc it's aparently OOM dying [12:58:13] Logged the message, Master [12:58:45] YuviPanda: *I* can login :-). I don't know if it's in the infrastructure class, but /etc/security/access.conf says: [12:58:53] +:ALL: 10.4.0.119 10.4.0.220 10.4.0.128 10.4.1.120 [12:58:55] hmm [12:58:59] -:ALL EXCEPT root:ALL [12:58:59] andrewbogott_afk: I hate new interface of wikitech, it's dangerous - no confirmation for reboot, what if you misclick? [12:59:00] I'm more interested in the firewall rules, if any [12:59:20] use case is that there'll be deamons running on SGE, and ssh tunnel from local machine to those via -login [12:59:22] YuviPanda: I think you can connect from all hosts to all others hosts. [12:59:27] sweet [12:59:30] I still can't login tho [12:59:43] YuviPanda: I tested that specific use case for rsyslogd, IIRC. [13:00:19] ah [13:00:24] I should get back to that at some point :| [13:00:29] rsyslogd + logstash [13:01:15] Could not find class ldap::role::client::labs [13:01:18] any clue? [13:08:15] !kill wm-bot [13:08:16] :P [13:08:33] scfc_de: works [13:08:53] Unable to parse the feed from http://rss.gmane.org/messages/excerpts/gmane.org.wikimedia.labs this url is probably not a valid rss, the feed will be disabled, until you re-enable it by typing @rss+ mail [13:11:46] zhuyifei1999, do you have a username on IRC? [13:12:20] Unable to parse the feed from http://rss.gmane.org/messages/excerpts/gmane.org.wikimedia.labs this url is probably not a valid rss, the feed will be disabled, until you re-enable it by typing @rss+ mail [13:12:30] Or are you unidentified? [13:12:36] This is mine [13:12:40] YuviPanda: The "Configure" pages on wikitech look identical for tools-login and tools-dev. [13:12:58] let me see what -v says [13:13:03] zhuyifei1999, you are user b49a02be [13:13:03] ? [13:13:19] Just because I'm using webchat? [13:13:36] Do you have an IRC username? [13:13:47] Not nickname, but username. [13:13:53] realname : 180.154.2.190 - http://webchat.freenode.net [21:12] == channels : #wikiindex #wikimedia-labs [21:12] == server : herbert.freenode.net [DE] [21:12] == idle : 0 days 0 hours 2 minutes 8 seconds [connected: Wed Jul 03 20:21:30 2013] [21:12] == account : zhuyifei1999 [21:12] == End of WHOIS [13:13:57] YuviPanda: Can't grep "10.4.0.119" in Puppet, manual addition? [13:14:21] possibly. [13:14:27] == account : zhuyifei1999 [13:14:28] i dunno if anyone else has tried this before but [13:15:10] !access add zhuyifei1999!%@% [13:15:10] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances [13:15:10] Not enough parameters were provided for the command access add. The expected number was 3, and you provided 2 [13:15:22] !access add zhuyifei1999!%@% Advanaced [13:15:22] Access entry added. [13:15:22] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances [13:15:54] Cyberpower678; Thanks. [13:15:55] YuviPanda: Ah, okay, created by modules/toollabs/files/project-make-access. [13:16:02] zhuyifei1999, hold on. [13:16:19] !myaccess zhuyifei1999!b49a02be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.154.2.190 [13:16:19] zhuyifei1999!b49a02be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.154.2.190 has the access level: Normal [13:16:31] !access add zhuyifei1999!%@% Advanced [13:16:31] Access entry added. [13:16:31] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances [13:16:44] !myaccess zhuyifei1999!b49a02be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.154.2.190 [13:16:44] zhuyifei1999!b49a02be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.154.2.190 has the access level: Advanced [13:16:44] !myaccess [13:16:45] zhuyifei1999!b49a02be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.154.2.190 has the access level: Advanced [13:16:46] Cyberpower678 can you please make fun with this bot somewhere else until YuviPanda, anomie and scfc_de solve the real problems? :P [13:16:56] !curl [13:16:57] * Helpmebot curls up in a ball. [13:17:01] petan, done [13:17:06] :0 [13:17:09] fun commands disabled [13:17:29] !uncurl [13:17:39] zhuyifei1999, you need to be a superuser to do that. [13:17:50] YuviPanda: so ssh doesn't work from any host to you to exec-nodes? [13:17:58] works from -login [13:18:02] ah [13:18:06] ok, that is normal [13:18:09] not from -dev [13:18:14] that might be normal as well [13:18:20] there is a list of IP' [13:18:21] s [13:18:23] to allow that from [13:18:33] dev is on that [13:19:06] !access del 253 [13:19:06] Access entry removed. [13:19:06] Successfully removed access [13:19:39] omg [13:19:53] petan, sorry. :/ [13:20:03] !access is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances [13:20:04] Key was added [13:20:05] is has the access level: Normal [13:20:05] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances has the access level: Normal [13:20:41] petan: Why don't you have a MAKEFILE? [13:20:52] zhuyifei1999 because I am lazy to make one [13:20:58] just use xbuild... [13:21:02] * Steinsplitter looks evil to petan....- [13:21:07] it's simple [13:21:12] AzaToth hi [13:21:23] AzaToth can you tell me how to build the debian package you made? [13:22:14] It's better from the command line. MonoDevelop almost killed my system. [13:22:35] zhuyifei1999 xbuild is command line [13:22:59] I am using vim & xbuild [13:23:08] monodevelop is creepy [13:23:46] + Support [13:26:16] YuviPanda: If I compare "ssh tools-dev.wmflabs.org ssh -v tools-exec-01 true" for -dev and -login, differences include "-debug1: could not open key file '/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key': No such file or directory" & Co. + "-debug1: Next authentication method: hostbased" ff. Comparing /etc/ssh now ... [13:27:05] hmm [13:28:01] ^logoff [13:28:07] ? [13:28:15] @logoff [13:28:15] Permission denied [13:28:16] Channel is not logged [13:28:18] YuviPanda: Comparing /etc/ssh/ssh_config (not ssh*d*_config): "- HostbasedAuthentication yes", "- EnableSSHKeysign yes" -- hmmm?! [13:28:48] ssh_config doesn't seem to be in Puppet. [13:29:34] Moo! [13:29:56] petan: if both wm-bot and my bot have !doc is !doc, and run !doc, what will happen? [13:29:57] Coren, you ate a cow for dinner? [13:30:15] MaxSem: Heh. Just didn't come back during the evening as I usually do. :-) [13:30:17] zhuyifei1999 I will kick your bot :P [13:30:32] or I will do this [13:30:37] @infobot-ingore+ doc [13:30:43] @infobot-ignore+ doc [13:30:43] Item doc was inserted to ignore list [13:30:43] Item doc was inserted to ignore list [13:31:08] @ignore YiFeiBot [13:31:11] might also work :p [13:31:12] @infobot-ignore- doc [13:31:12] Item doc was removed from list [13:31:13] Item doc was removed from list [13:31:13] or something like that [13:31:24] so what's the use of also having YiFeiBot here, zhuyifei1999? [13:31:38] they are testing my patience [13:31:41] :P [13:32:12] * Cyberpower678 loads more patience into petan. [13:32:19] Coren: hi [13:32:22] :P [13:32:37] petan: low! [13:32:46] low? [13:32:46] * Cyberpower678 assumes petan runs on Python. [13:32:56] anomie memcache is back! :O [13:33:05] no I run when I see pythons [13:33:08] petan: Good! [13:33:16] I like snakes though :P [13:33:34] !uncurl [13:33:35] Done [13:33:48] Helpmebot: die plis [13:33:59] :/ [13:33:59] Be responsible with it everyone. [13:34:04] !lick Cyberpower678 [13:34:05] * Helpmebot licks Cyberpower678 [13:34:14] !charge petan [13:34:14] * Helpmebot shouts "I BE FIRIN MAH LAZORS!", aims and fires at petan. [13:34:20] disgusting [13:34:27] !lick zhuyifei1999 [13:34:28] You want me to do what!? To zhuyifei1999!? I don't think so... [13:34:33] o.O [13:34:42] LOLZ XD [13:35:03] is Helpmebot a girl at least [13:35:07] :o [13:35:21] !gender [13:35:30] petan, dunno [13:35:41] ^logoff [13:36:01] zhuyifei1999, let me know when you have a cloak [13:36:12] Coren: We can't ssh from tools-dev to tools-exec-*. Diff'ing /etc/ssh/config and man pages suggests that we need to enable "EnableSSHKeysign yes" and "HostbasedAuthentication yes" in /etc/ssh_config on tools-*dev* (not ssh*d*_config) and set it up in Puppet later for all ::bastion hosts. WDYT? [13:36:13] zhuyifei1999 at some point, I don't know if that CommandPrefix is used for all modules :D [13:36:20] you can fix it ^^ [13:36:41] ^restart [13:36:42] Permission denied [13:37:27] petan: does restart ever work? [13:37:59] scfc_de: You are correct in susbtance. I may have forgotten to puppetize that in the toollabs::bastion class (I know I did the converse for the exec hosts) [13:38:01] Coren: Another topic: Damianz cannot connect from webserver-*02* to the databases. /etc/iptables.conf differs in one line from other hosts, but that should only affect s7. It looks as if iptables isn't enabled on webserver-02 ATM. [13:38:24] zhuyifei1999 of course, you need to make yourself root [13:38:28] change admin to root [13:38:30] You are root identified by name .*@wikimedia/Petrb [13:39:13] ^restart [13:39:14] all other questions will be answered in #wm-bot [13:39:29] scfc_de: I may have forgotten -02 in my latest round of updates. The masters are at /data/project/.system/{hosts,iptables.conf} but I'll go fix this now. This can't be puppetized yet because I'm in the process of fixing that whole iptables mess to remove it (and put the DBs in DNS where they belong) [13:40:21] petan: Thanks, but you didn't mention that in [13:40:34] !link [[meta:wm-bot]] [13:40:34] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/[[meta:wm-bot]] [13:40:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:wm-bot [13:40:49] scfc_de: iptables and hosts config on webserver-02 fixed. [13:40:55] the helpmebot one [13:40:57] Coren: Even better :-). Then setting up a new host just as a "router"? [13:41:07] Damianz: ^ [13:41:29] scfc_de: More likely, we'll add extra addresses from a dedicated subnet to the actual DBs and do away with the NAT altogether. [13:41:33] @logoff [13:41:33] Permission denied [13:41:34] Channel was already not logged [13:41:51] Coren: Yep, it doesn't make sense to solve that in Tools if the DBs are accessed from other projects as well. [13:42:11] scfc_de: That was just a hack to get it ready in time for the Hackaton. :-) [13:44:58] !log tools Set "HostbasedAuthentication yes" and "EnableSSHKeysign yes" in tools-dev's /etc/ssh/ssh_config [13:44:59] Logged the message, Master [13:45:10] YuviPanda: Try now? [14:01:07] petan: (not a question about wm-bot) Why my jobs get killed for no reason? [14:08:04] zhuyifei1999: On the grid? [14:27:25] zhuyifei1999 where? which jobs [14:29:50] Maybe its just a mistake, but when I first came to labs, it happens quite often, and that's why I didn't use the grid at first. [14:31:52] It should be called catredir. [14:40:07] zhuyifei1999: The last job with that name finished Tue Jun 4 09:55:57 2013. Sure you mean that? [14:41:39] And if you really mean that job, it failed cause it was out of memory (exit_status 137, maxvmem 244.254M). Try with a higher "-mem" value, i. e. "-mem 512m" or something like that. [14:41:51] The first job [14:48:11] Coren, you about. [14:48:13] ? [14:48:34] Cyberpower678: I'm always here. I see all, hear all! OooooOO! [14:48:40] +-------+ [14:48:40] | count | [14:48:40] +-------+ [14:48:40] | 6 | [14:48:40] +-------+ [14:48:41] 1 row in set, 6 warnings (7.47 sec) [14:48:46] ^ [14:48:50] What? [14:49:10] What are the warnings and why so long for a simple query? [14:50:20] Cyberpower678: How can I possibly know if I have no idea what the query is? [14:51:08] Coren, oops. :p [14:51:25] Coren, SELECT count(log_action) AS count FROM logging WHERE `log_user` = '1178694' AND `log_type` = 'newusers'; [14:53:38] (a) it's slow because you are doing a query on logging with a where clause on log_user. You should be using logging_userindex. (b) the warnings is... I have no idea what the warnings are supposed to be for. :-) [14:54:16] You now have logging_userindex? [14:54:46] ... it's always been there. :-) [14:54:56] Never seen it. [14:55:09] Is that table present for all Wikis? [14:55:29] That might explain why some of the tools take 2 seconds to load. :p [14:55:45] Coren, ^^ [14:55:46] Sure, it's always been there. [14:55:53] Cool. [15:00:22] HOLY SHIT [15:00:46] Executed and processed 12 queries in less than a second. [15:00:50] O.O [15:02:01] :D [15:02:26] Cyberpower678: Re the warnings, use "SHOW WARNINGS". [15:03:11] anomie, addshore Coren: Adminstats is going to be fast on Wikipedia, once I flip the switch to labs. [15:11:20] !log integration upgrading jenkins and gerrit on integration-jenkins2 [15:11:21] Logged the message, Master [15:34:30] good morning Coren [15:34:42] when you're around, I now at least understand some basic things about Tools [15:34:46] and I have a few questions [15:34:50] milimetric: I am. Fire. [15:35:03] cool, ok so my goal is to set up a website [15:35:18] it runs on python (flask) and it needs Redis [15:35:38] I don't control how it accesses Redis because a separate package is doing that for me and I'm not sure I can easily customize it [15:35:46] so I'd need my own instance, not the shared one [15:36:03] drdee has gotten me to the point where I can do this: [15:36:16] At first glance, it doesn't sound like to actually do, but keep going. [15:36:22] ssh tools-login, become wikimetrics, sql enwiki.labsdb [15:36:56] ok, so now my question is, where should I begin to install wikimetrics? [15:37:36] In wikimetrics's home, there is a public_html; that matches http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikimetrics/ [15:39:07] hm, ok, but I'd need access to the apache config for that to make it use mod_wsgi and point it at my python app [15:39:32] Coren, legal is sure taking their sweet ol' time. :/ [15:40:01] Flask isn't directly supported in its WSGI operation mode, but it's easy to have it work in CGI mode with just a small script; one of the other users even made a sample to show how, I'll point you at it. [15:40:41] That said, I do want to support WSGI natively, and your project might be the right "excuse" to finish the support; we need to have it fire the daemon to the grid which is nontrivial but feasible. [15:40:55] oh interesting [15:41:18] so, and sorry if this is a dumb question, [15:41:48] would it be easier to allow access to the labsdb replicas from my own personal labs instance? [15:41:58] then I could set that up however I need [15:43:59] milimetric: It wouldn't be all that hard, but your project really fits the Labs model well and this way you get support "free". [15:44:29] Coren, are you sure legal is still aware of this question. [15:44:36] ? [15:44:36] :) well, that's good. But the idea is to puppetize this and run it in production on stat1001 [15:44:56] Cyberpower678: Patence is a virtue. :-) [15:45:32] so I'm happy to give this a try though. I read up a bit on running Flask in CGI mode and it seems ok... maybe [15:45:35] Coren, they're taking forever though. :/ [15:45:59] if we hit any problems, I'd rather use my own labs instance as we are a bit short on time [15:46:06] Coren, you should've put Child Porn in the subject headline. [15:46:26] so, just as a backup plan, how would I set up a new labs instance to point to the labsdb slaves? [15:46:36] :D [15:47:35] milimetric: Well, actually, that's a more interesting question than first appears. "What happens when we want to move a project from the Tool Labs to projection?" I have a few ideas there. [15:47:47] milimetric: I can see two ways to go forward. [15:48:20] milimetric: We set you up as a tool, that is fast an easy and gets you up and running. [15:48:25] Cyberpower678: Oh, you have time now! Fixed the crontab already? :-) [15:48:55] milimetric: When we feel we want to move to production, we have the experience from the setup on tools to base ourselves on. [15:48:58] milimetric: Alternately, [15:50:01] scfc_de, nope. Got my final exam today. [15:50:01] milimetric: We use your case as the model for "how do we do production" right; which means to stay on labs longer while we work it out properly (where it'll still work until we are ready) then use it as the model for future cases. [15:50:05] Tomorrow. [15:51:00] I'm happy to help with "doing things right" Coren [15:51:15] But I do have to make sure my deadline doesn't slip at all [15:51:22] milimetric: Honestly, setting you up as a tool is the fastest way to get you running because all the infrastructure is ready. :-) [15:51:40] milimetric: What's your deadline? [15:51:56] July 24th is the absolute latest [15:52:08] July 10th is a personal deadline I'd like to hit so I have enough time to do other stuff [15:52:13] milimetric: At the cost of making the move to production more work (but then, that can be done deliberately without affecting your deadline since it'll already be running on tool labs) [15:52:27] the code for the site itself is not minimally viable yet [15:52:52] milimetric: We can have you running with Flask in ~1h. :-) [15:53:09] yeah, so I'm happy to get something working now and then help with paving the way for other people [15:53:33] ok, so should I clone my repo in local-wikimetrics' home? [15:53:55] milimetric: That's the reasonable first step indeed. :-) [15:56:22] milimetric: If you look at /data/project/stub, there is a sample framework there to have a flask application made accessible trivially. In particular, /data/project/stub/public_html/cgi.py is all the adapatation you need. :-) [15:56:40] ok, copying [15:57:10] AzaToth ping [15:57:14] @notify AzaToth [15:57:14] This user is now online in #wikimedia-dev. I'll let you know when they show some activity (talk, etc.) [15:57:27] petan: pong [15:57:31] @notify petan [15:57:31] This user is now online in #huggle. I'll let you know when they show some activity (talk, etc.) [15:57:44] AzaToth how I build teh [15:57:46] thing you made [15:57:50] to .deb [15:58:11] petan: install the packages "devscripts" and "git-buildpackage" [15:58:14] I had a ./debian script there to do that, it's gone but you didn't update the docs [15:58:18] run "git buildpackage" [15:58:29] where [15:58:32] in which folder [15:58:36] in the top folder [15:58:57] I wll create a script anyway which tell the user what they need to install when they don't have it [15:59:02] if you haven't updated the changelog, add "-uc -us" to git buildpackage to avoid trying to sign [15:59:15] that's generally not needed [15:59:32] people who build debian packages generally knows how to build them ツ [15:59:50] you think... [16:00:09] you don't need to use "git buildpackage", you can use the "debuild" or "dpkg-buildpackage" [16:00:14] yes I do [16:00:39] git buildpackage just makes it easier to build directly from a git [16:00:44] AzaToth imagine someone who knows almost nothing about .deb packages wants to download this one and install it [16:00:45] hm, Coren so I don't have sudo as wikimetrics and therefore can't run "sudo pip install -e ." like I would like [16:01:17] there is no precompiled version, so they have to checkout git and eventually, they don't want to bother with understanding how packaging works, just hit 2 commands and be happy [16:01:25] * valhallasw only knows about the former debian/rules [16:01:52] there is no download repository so everyone who wants to install this, needs to build the package themselves [16:02:00] We don't do pips (and you wouldn't be allowed to in production) for security purposes. Any Python package you need we either get from Ubuntu, our package ourselves. Make me a list of what you need and I'll have 'em up for you in minutes. :-) [16:02:05] I don't expect everyone to know how debian packaging works [16:02:17] milimetric: ^^ [16:02:24] right [16:02:46] hm... this is why I wanted to defer the production route for now [16:02:58] AzaToth what is scons? [16:03:04] it seems to be missing [16:03:05] milimetric: Right, but you've got me. It's almost as good as pip. :-) [16:03:15] the list is in install_requires Coren: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/analytics%2Fwikimetrics/23e578f2a1a0850fc39791b795b9935b1ed56ee4/setup.py [16:03:24] you are too kind sir :) [16:03:48] AzaToth is there a command like "apt-get check if this package exist and if not install it? and be quiet and fast :P" [16:03:54] petan: http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging [16:03:55] milimetric: Give me an hour and I'll have all that up for you. :-) [16:04:00] scons is a build system [16:04:03] thank you very much [16:04:09] if it's too much pain or you hit roadblocks, let me know [16:04:24] petan: seems I forgot to add it to build-deps [16:04:24] we have talked a lot about how to do this in the general case [16:04:32] probably yes [16:04:33] and erosen and I came up with what I think is a great solution [16:05:14] so basically we would pip install and commit the dependencies to gerrit, then use that as a source to pip install from on the production / labs machine [16:05:36] petan: it's instead of the Makefiles [16:05:38] AzaToth: wtf, the file has to be named 'xxx_version' and the directory it unpacks to 'xxx-version'? that's just silly. 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