[01:17:23] <wm-bot>	 Channel is now logged
[01:17:26] <marktraceur>	 Totally unambiguous
[01:18:39] <bawolff>	 Well you know, that would have required me to read the docs :P
[01:18:53] <bd808>	 !help
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[01:19:13] <marktraceur>	 !logs is Logs are at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-multimedia/
[01:19:14] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[01:20:07] <bd808>	 I can't remember what other keys I fed it before. I think I made one to link to mingle
[01:20:42] <marktraceur>	 !card 66
[01:20:44] <wm-bot>	 https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/multimedia/cards/66
[01:20:48] <marktraceur>	 You did! Good work. :)
[01:20:55] <marktraceur>	 !alias c card
[01:20:58] <marktraceur>	 Er.
[01:21:04] <marktraceur>	 !c alias card
[01:21:04] <wm-bot>	 Created new alias for this key
[01:21:10] <marktraceur>	 !c 66
[01:21:10] <wm-bot>	 https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/multimedia/cards/66
[01:23:03] <bd808>	 Somebody *not it* should help hashar move meetbot into the bots project and make it available to invite to all channels
[01:23:17] <marktraceur>	 Heh
[01:23:31] <marktraceur>	 Why do I feel like I'll be doing this.
[01:23:56] <bd808>	 Or not? "An obsolete project for creating and running both wiki bots for use on Wikimedia Foundation sites and IRC bots. Use the Tools project instead."
[01:25:13] <marktraceur>	 I guess, yeah
[01:25:20] <marktraceur>	 toollabs is where wm-bot3 is running :)
[01:26:22] <bd808>	 But it writes logs to the old project? Or that's just for backwards compatible URLs?
[01:26:38] <bd808>	 Labs confuses the heck out of me
[01:26:47] <marktraceur>	 ...hm?
[01:26:50] <marktraceur>	 Oh, huh
[01:26:51] <marktraceur>	 Weird
[01:26:57] <marktraceur>	 I probably just used the wrong URL
[01:27:18] <marktraceur>	 Or...maybe it's still running on bots
[01:27:51] <bd808>	 There were logs there. But the ~wm-bot3 makes it look like a tool so maybe just proxy shell left there
[01:28:13] <marktraceur>	 Dunno
[01:28:41] <bd808>	 Meh. Only matters to labs opsen and bot maintainer(s)
[01:28:42] <marktraceur>	 bd808: "This is a home for various tools related to wm-bot, which in fact does live on separate instance in separate project
[01:28:45] <marktraceur>	 "
[01:36:16] <marktraceur>	 Ew, bitly
[01:36:58] <bawolff>	 I was going to use wmf4.me but I couldn't figure out how to make it work
[02:22:37] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: What're you up to? I would have expected some busy-ness from midterms or some such.
[02:22:51] <bawolff>	 Its a holiday today
[02:23:22] <bawolff>	 Basically the university noticed an extremely large number of suicides this time of year, so decided to give us an extra-long week end
[02:23:58] <marktraceur>	 ...wow.
[02:24:00] <marktraceur>	 Has that worked?
[02:24:08] <bawolff>	 I honestly have no idea
[02:24:33] <bawolff>	 extremely large being a statistical spike, not actually extremely large
[02:24:36] <marktraceur>	 I feel like you might need to do some research into causation
[02:25:10] <marktraceur>	 Like "Oh, it's because every professor gets busy with holiday planning and isn't assigning enough homework, so the students get bored and depressed"
[02:25:23] <marktraceur>	 "Maybe we shouldn't have given them five days off"
[02:26:21] <bawolff>	 Maybe all the Remembrance day stuff depresses people, and they think they can't compare to the sacrifices of the soldiers
[02:26:42] <marktraceur>	 Aha.
[02:27:13] <quiddity>	 my neighbour watched the movie "Stalingrad". We were sitting on the porch talking about it, just as a maudlin brass band started playing nearby.  'twas hilariously depressing!
[02:27:36] <quiddity>	 yesterday*
[02:28:32] <marktraceur>	 "'twas hilariously depressing" on my list of sentences I'll never hear at any other place of employment
[02:30:02] <quiddity>	 ;-)   I like some dark humor.  I firmly believe in the power of comedy to heal all acupuncturists of their headwounds.
[02:30:06] <quiddity>	 i mean, ummmm
[02:30:30] <marktraceur>	 quiddity: Clearly we need to bring in Lewis Black to the office.
[02:30:38] <marktraceur>	 He can yell at us in thirty-minute sessions
[02:30:47] <quiddity>	 +1 or darker. (i have a list somewhere)
[02:31:21] <marktraceur>	 Come now, anything darker is obviously only a placebo
[02:34:28] <quiddity>	 ;-)
[02:37:12] <quiddity>	 marktraceur, there's probably a more efficient way to get these into text, but I'm in no mood to wrestle with html bookmark parsing, so http://i.imgur.com/2JyEpNG.png
[02:37:41] * quiddity  adores lists >.>

[02:38:16] <marktraceur>	 Jimmy Carr <3
[02:38:32] <marktraceur>	 No C.K.?
[02:38:48] <quiddity>	 ack, good catch
[02:40:15] <quiddity>	 stephen fry was missing too
[02:41:42] <quiddity>	 some of those people had better years... (dennis leary >.> )
[02:42:39] <quiddity>	 I recommend old episodes of this, on youtube. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Room_with_Paul_Provenza
[02:45:59] <marktraceur>	 Ooh, quiddity, what about Jack Black, before the whole...weird, kiddy decline of his
[02:46:24] <quiddity>	 he did standup?!  ooo, evening entertainment set!
[02:46:24] <marktraceur>	 Also Aziz Ansari and Russell Peters
[02:46:42] <marktraceur>	 quiddity: I dunno if he did standup, I know they had wonderful comedy as Tenacious D
[02:47:15] <quiddity>	 ahh, yup, i saw and liked that (and school of rock, and Brutal Legend)
[02:47:25] <marktraceur>	 Ah, but
[02:47:32] <marktraceur>	 The movie, or the TV show? (For Tenacious D)
[02:47:44] <quiddity>	 i'll add aziz and russel to the list.
[02:47:56] <quiddity>	 I saw the movie. Not sure about TV Show?
[02:48:07] <marktraceur>	 It's an older thing
[02:48:09] <marktraceur>	 But amazing
[02:48:22] <marktraceur>	 It's where you'll find such songs as "Tribute"
[02:49:03] <quiddity>	 ahh, nifty.  I wonder how that'll compare to my reaction to Flight of the Conchords.. (i loved their standup routines, but didn't like them in tv show format)
[02:49:48] <marktraceur>	 Yeah I know what you mean
[02:50:01] <marktraceur>	 Wow this is...severely off-topic. :P
[02:50:22] <quiddity>	 it's after 6pm!  tangents are go!
[02:50:27] <marktraceur>	 Heh
[02:50:38] <marktraceur>	 Speaking of, I should relocate to an empty conference room
[02:50:39] * quiddity  goes back to hunting for calories...

[03:04:29] <Dmcdevit>	 On the Internet, it's always after 6 pm somewhere.
[03:10:35] <marktraceur>	 FYI I've pushed a first-attempt redesign to our alpha instance http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo
[03:10:54] <marktraceur>	 I could probably tear out the BetaFeatures stuff and just have the MMV thing enabled by default, eh
[03:12:43] <marktraceur>	 Now works logged out
[03:16:48] <bawolff>	 Hmm, fabrice wants me to sign up for the round table. I'm unclear if I am a "Community member" or a "Facilitator"
[03:17:07] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: Add a new category "bawolff"
[03:17:11] <marktraceur>	 With one entry
[03:17:14] <marktraceur>	 "bawolff"
[03:17:29] <bawolff>	 $bawolff2 = clone $bawolff
[03:17:32] <marktraceur>	 Maybe one more category called "bawolffs in training"
[03:17:49] <marktraceur>	 I'd sign up under that
[03:17:57] <bawolff>	 User:Bawolff_bot could maybe fit in there too
[03:18:34] <marktraceur>	 Totally
[03:18:40] <marktraceur>	 Almost Bawolff
[03:18:44] <marktraceur>	 Like "almost human"
[03:18:55] <marktraceur>	 Which is how Ironholds describes me after a haircut
[03:19:18] <bawolff>	 lol
[03:31:49] * bawolff  wonders why all the round table pages requires peoples real names...

[03:32:46] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: Real-name policy
[03:32:52] <marktraceur>	 It's sponsored by Google+, so
[03:32:57] <marktraceur>	 Carries over
[03:33:05] <bawolff>	 actually?
[03:33:08] <marktraceur>	 Naw
[03:34:18] <bawolff>	 You had me going there for a second
[03:42:47] <Dmcdevit>	 Am I the only person that pronounces "bawolff" as "Beowulf"?
[03:43:56] <marktraceur>	 Dmcdevit: Nope
[03:44:02] <marktraceur>	 But it's only two syllables, not three
[03:44:06] <marktraceur>	 Bay-wolf
[03:44:34] <bawolff>	 I've actually had people tell me that they are very disappointed that my nick name isn't an intentional reference to that 
[03:44:53] <marktraceur>	 It's almost better that it's unintentional
[03:45:05] <marktraceur>	 Just like my nick is an unintentional reference to the name that people think I actually have
[03:45:11] * bawolff  thinks its cool that Brian Alexander Wolff = B. A. Wolff = Be a Wolf!

[03:45:30] <bawolff>	 lol
[03:46:06] <bawolff>	 marktraceur: You should get your name legally changed to "Mark Traceur" just to screw with people
[03:46:59] <bawolff>	 and then change your wiki name to Mark Holmquist
[04:12:57] <marktraceur>	 BRILLIANT
[04:13:06] <marktraceur>	 I'll give it more time
[05:55:52] <quiddity>	 talking of which... is it a reference to parkour/freerunning?
[05:57:37] * quiddity  always forgets which is which, despite reading and watching numerous articles/videos.     iirc free-running is a reference to "freestyle", meaning that's the more acrobatically-oriented form..

[06:13:32] <marktraceur>	 Yeah
[06:13:38] <marktraceur>	 Parkour is the art of only movement
[06:51:34] <quiddity>	 :)
[06:58:25] <marktraceur>	 And yeah, to actually answer the question, it's a reference
[06:58:33] <marktraceur>	 I've done parkour on and off for a long time
[07:07:58] <quiddity>	 bueno.  I think martial arts movies and parkour videos are what made me realize that: All sports can be enthralling, if the agility elements are viewed in slow motion.  Poetry in motion.
[07:09:38] <marktraceur>	 Heh, yeah
[16:38:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Handle remote categories in a ForeignDBRepo setup [extensions/CommonsMetadata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95173 
[17:12:21] * marktraceur  pulls a gwicke and spends the first little bit of the day WFHing

[18:00:00] <wmfmedia-standup>	 Stand-up!
[18:00:00] <wmfmedia-standup>	 Order: marktraceur -> tgr -> bd808 -> fabriceflorin
[18:00:31] <tgr>	 hangout or irc?
[18:00:33] <marktraceur>	 Holy shit I'm first
[18:00:35] <marktraceur>	 IRC
[18:00:45] <marktraceur>	 wmfmedia-standup: What am I paying you for?
[18:00:49] * marktraceur  picks up stick

[18:01:23] <marktraceur>	 Yesterday, I got a redesign of the lightbox underway - See http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo e.g.
[18:01:30] <marktraceur>	 Aw, pginer left.
[18:01:40] <marktraceur>	 It needs some work but it's looking nicer
[18:02:09] <marktraceur>	 Today, fixes to the library portion of those changes, as well as (hopefully) some work on thumbnail size bucketing
[18:02:46] <marktraceur>	 Nothing blocking afaik
[18:02:52] * marktraceur  pokes tgr with the stick

[18:03:18] <tgr>	 wrote the core patch for getting categories from commons
[18:03:54] <tgr>	 will spend some more time to do the suggested fixes
[18:04:40] <tgr>	 next is timedmediahandler, if it still needs testing
[18:04:59] <tgr>	 but i think Bawolff solved it in a different way in the meanwhile
[18:05:21] <tgr>	 plus GWToolset review
[18:05:46] <tgr>	 no blockers, unless the core patch review goes badly
[18:05:55] <marktraceur>	 Cool
[18:06:01] * bd808  grabs stick

[18:06:01] * tgr  passes stick to bd808

[18:06:05] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Do you need more review on it, or are enough people swarming you?
[18:06:36] <bd808>	 Yesterday I tricked Reedy into deploying a change that increased load on the prod cluster by 50%
[18:06:38] <tgr>	 more never hurts, but as long as aaron reviews it, i am fine
[18:07:00] <bd808>	 Today I'm making some patches that might make that not happen again
[18:07:04] <bd808>	 :)
[18:07:08] <marktraceur>	 bd808: Nice
[18:07:28] <bd808>	 I'm also giving a phone interview in an hour that I need to prop for
[18:07:44] <bd808>	 After that I'll try to look at Dan's latest patches
[18:08:01] <bd808>	 No blockers at the moment
[18:08:06] * bd808  drops stick

[18:08:41] <bd808>	 I missed a prime chance to crash the site :/
[18:09:03] <bd808>	 Reedy and Faidon were too good at figuring out what went wrong
[18:10:17] <marktraceur>	 Aw
[18:10:19] <marktraceur>	 Curse them
[18:10:22] <marktraceur>	 And their effectiveness
[18:10:47] <bd808>	 It's sort of amazing how dangerous a theoretically small change can be at scale: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94186/3/includes/ProxyTools.php,unified
[18:11:36] <bd808>	 It turns out that $wgSquidServersNoPurge is a really really long list in production and that check gets called 2+ times per request
[18:12:10] <marktraceur>	 Urgh
[18:12:14] <bd808>	 If there had been a follow up config change it would have been fine
[18:12:39] <bd808>	 With CIDR support $wgSquidServersNoPurge can go from 200+ IPs to 10-15 ranges
[18:12:42] <marktraceur>	 Shouldn't there be a cache for the function? It shouldn't change mid-request, right?
[18:13:05] <bd808>	 $ip does change in actual usage
[18:13:09] <marktraceur>	 Ah.
[18:13:35] <bd808>	 It's used to walk the X-Forwarded-For to find the "real" request IP 
[18:14:20] <tgr>	 still sounds weird that 200 pattern matches per request could crash the site
[18:14:49] <bd808>	 It didn't crash (luckily) but it put a huge load on the cluster
[18:15:17] <bd808>	 There are some nasty regex's hidden behind IP::isInRange()
[18:16:40] <tgr>	 i see, tries to deal with all the ipv6 edge cases
[18:17:20] <bd808>	 Yeah. I've got an idea that I think can optimize the crap out of that but it will have to wait until I get dome with some meetings today
[18:17:25] <bd808>	 *done
[18:18:16] <bd808>	 This version with fixes from me and Reedy shold be much nicer in our configuration without digging into the IPv4/6 validation: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95175/
[19:39:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Reorganize UI to be...way sexier. [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95081 
[19:40:05] <marktraceur>	 OK, the library's working now
[19:40:21] <marktraceur>	 Next: Buttons inside the image
[19:40:22] <marktraceur>	 Or something
[20:28:34] <marktraceur>	 tgr: Do you have +2 on UW?
[20:30:45] <tgr>	 yes
[20:30:55] <tgr>	 i just wanted to wait for other comments
[20:31:46] <marktraceur>	 Good plan :)
[20:39:45] <dan-nl>	 hey bd808, tgr atm the main review i need merged is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94128/3. bd808 already +1'd it so tgr i just need to address any must have concerns you may have or have you merge it if you're okay with it
[20:49:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] "++" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94971 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[20:51:29] <marktraceur>	 ...Jenkins?
[20:52:04] <marktraceur>	 Ah, zuul is busy
[20:52:10] <marktraceur>	 There is no merge, there is only zuul
[20:52:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't interfere with middle click [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94971 (owner: 10Ebrahim)
[20:52:44] <marktraceur>	 Huzzah
[20:56:40] <marktraceur>	 I wonder if I should try to do the size bucketing, or try building a more robust system with oojs first.
[20:58:22] <marktraceur>	 Well that answers that
[20:58:25] <marktraceur>	 oojs is still not in core
[20:58:37] * marktraceur  waits patiently

[21:48:53] <marktraceur>	 ...bam
[21:48:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Introduce image size bucketing [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95282 
[21:49:02] <marktraceur>	 brion, tgr ^^
[21:49:15] <marktraceur>	 There's a commit chain going, but taking a look at that might be good
[21:49:32] <marktraceur>	 I really need to pull the resizing stuff out into its own function though...{{later}}
[21:50:19] <brion>	 \o
[21:50:23] <brion>	 \o/
[21:50:30] <tgr>	 super cool
[22:00:34] <marktraceur>	 Next up, oojs.
[22:28:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 031] "(3 comments)" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95282 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[22:31:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "I guess that makes more sense, I'll do that." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95282 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[22:32:24] <marktraceur>	 Will fix up shortly
[22:33:46] <marktraceur>	 Want to get something working-ish with oojs first
[22:39:44] <marktraceur>	 Actually
[22:39:59] <marktraceur>	 tgr: The abstraction stuff, I'll probably do once oojs is sorted
[22:50:23] <marktraceur>	 pg<tab><tab> fucking shit
[23:00:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "I feel like I want some qunit tests that confirm reasonably expected size requests for some input size & density variants." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95282 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[23:02:14] <marktraceur>	 Hrm, qunit tests have sorta fallen by the wayside :(
[23:03:15] <brion>	 tests are your friend :)
[23:03:44] <marktraceur>	 Well, can do
[23:03:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Use oojs to extend multilightbox objects [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95295 
[23:03:57] <marktraceur>	 Stupid pointless commit, away!
[23:04:04] <marktraceur>	 Will be the basis for lots more cool stuff though
[23:04:10] <brion>	 :D
[23:04:41] <wm-bot>	 False
[23:04:42] <wm-bot>	 False
[23:04:47] <marktraceur>	 Thanks wm-bot3
[23:04:48] <wm-bot>	 Hey marktraceur, you are welcome!
[23:04:57] <marktraceur>	 Fucking bot doesn't understand sarcasm
[23:05:29] <brion>	 patches accepted? :)
[23:06:56] <marktraceur>	 Yeah
[23:07:00] <marktraceur>	 Such is life
[23:08:20] <bd808>	 marktraceur: The wm-bot3 "False" spam is probably it's bug with rss feeds. 
[23:12:58] <marktraceur>	 Yeah
[23:13:40] * marktraceur  creates qunit tests

[23:16:01] <marktraceur>	 Actually...first, fixing the approximation algo.