[00:28:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3TimedMediaHandler: TimedMediaHandler making bad action=raw requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69453#c8 (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) 5PATC>3NEW First part was backported, so the action=raw requests with bad namespaces now return 404s instead of 403s, which means MediaWiki sh... [09:30:56] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Only show prev/next arrows in categories/galleries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69583#c4 (10Thiemo Mättig) p:5Unprio>3Normal Thanks for opening this report. I'm aware of the questions raised above (mainly: why remove the function if you can just ignore it... [10:02:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Only show prev/next arrows in categories/galleries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69583#c5 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) I agree, this is an "it rips images out of context" vs "people really like to browse around". So what needs to be analyzed is: 1: Can we provide more... [10:34:59] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Turn MediaViewer log events into an event stream - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69598 (10Tisza Gergő) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None The current event logging is basically only good to count the number of times event X happens per day, which is not so... [12:01:29] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Log more information for imageview events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69600 (10Tisza Gergő) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None When MediaViewer displays an image, we should log the following information: - the way the image is embedded (gallery, thumbna... [12:04:21] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Only show prev/next arrows in categories/galleries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69583#c6 (10Tisza Gergő) Re: back button, I would first see which way bug 62266 goes. I think the next steps should be: * improve logging (created bug 69598 and bug 69600) and ana... [12:35:26] quiddity: ps, gryllida left a lot of feedback on Flow yesterday.. [12:47:26] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "IMO there should be instant feedback if the date fields can't be parsed. Right now they would just be interpreted as distant past (false i" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153818 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64685) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [13:31:14] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3PdfHandler: PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with $wgPdfCreateThumbnailsInJobQueue option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53242#c1 (10Andre Klapper) As MW 1.21 is now unmaintained, does anybody know if this is still a problem in 1.23 or 1.22? [13:31:15] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3PdfHandler: PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834#c13 (10Andre Klapper) Jamie: As MW 1.21 is now unmaintained, do you know if this is still a problem in 1.23 or 1.22? [13:48:42] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Fix failing loader tests [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154269 [13:50:01] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] "Self-merge, easy fix and the tests errors get in the way of other development" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154269 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:50:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix failing loader tests [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154269 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:50:44] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Remove misleading "now" from message [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153788 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69282) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:51:07] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "recheck, tests have been fixed in master." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153788 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69282) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:52:18] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] Remove misleading "now" from message [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153788 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69282) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [13:52:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove misleading "now" from message [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153788 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69282) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:57:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Make the page visible in the background when the lightbox is open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69582#c2 (10Thiemo Mättig) Thanks for opening this report. I strongly support this change, no matter how it will look in the end (very good ideas are already explain... [15:27:17] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Test if replacing the blur effect with pixelation makes loading feel faster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69609 (10Thiemo Mättig) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None This should be perfect for an A/B test with random users. Goal: Find out which method feel... [16:01:57] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Can not use browsers zoom to see image details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69473#c5 (10Tim Starling) OK, understood. Thanks for the report and the suggestion to look at Google Maps. I note that Google Maps has interface text overlaying the image, so there's... [18:05:43] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618 (10Erik Moeller) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Current behavior: If a file page contains no machine-readable attribution information, me... [18:07:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618#c1 (10Mark Holmquist) Is this what Rich was hinting at in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69292#c3 or is it a separate bug? [18:08:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618#c2 (10Erik Moeller) I don't know what Rich was hinting at, he hasn't told us. :) [18:11:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618#c3 (10Mark Holmquist) Yeah, I thought you might have insider information somehow. Thanks anyway! [18:12:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618#c4 (10Luis Villa (WMF Legal)) Dumb question: doesn't mediaviewer simply mimic the existing behavior of the "use this file" gadget in this situation? [18:15:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618#c5 (10Erik Moeller) Possibly. Technically, the "use this file" gadget does not exist on local wikis (only on Commons), and this issue will be most... [18:21:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Link to File: page in embed code if no licensing information can be extracted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69618#c6 (10Luis Villa (WMF Legal)) Ugh. Yes, a link to the File: page would be much superior in that case. [19:31:43] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: scale UploadWizard to sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69624 (10Sumana Harihareswara) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3enhanc a:3None Per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/UploadWizard:_scale_to_sister_projects : "Proposed change: What I w... [19:33:56] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: scale UploadWizard to sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69624#c1 (10Sumana Harihareswara) It might actually make sense to break this up into several bugs. Gryllida maybe you'd like to file those and mark them as blocking this bug? [20:18:43] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: File properties storage (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31257#c1 (10Andre Klapper) Is this still relevant? Looks like this is another forgotten (and not useful?) tracking bug as nobody has added any dependencies for more than two years. [21:09:35] * marktraceur feels like he's falling off a cliff [21:09:55] Got to the point where I'm trying to disentangle the checkFile method [21:10:18] Had the thought "gee it would be easier if the file inputs were handled by the Wizard UI class instead of UWUI [21:10:57] So now I'm going to bang my head against the wall until that actually sounds like a good plan [21:19:26] tgr: Can I pester you to review some UploadWizard patches at some point? [21:20:08] will do [21:20:11] is it urgent? [21:20:19] if not, I'll do it over the weekend [21:20:41] Not urgent, but I'm getting to the point where I'm dreading starting yet another dependent patch :) [21:21:21] Also I'm thinking I might move the new-upload management into mw.UploadWizard before trying to finish the upload step patch [21:21:40] Which is another dependent patch on the step controllers line [21:48:12] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: WIP move most of the upload step stuff into controller.Upload [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154341 [21:48:42] Wow, that's way smaller than I expected. [21:48:59] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP move most of the upload step stuff into controller.Upload [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154341 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [21:50:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Test if replacing the blur effect with pixelation makes loading feel faster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69609#c1 (10Tisza Gergő) I don't see how something like this could be A/B tested. We could use some sort of a microsurvey (which does not exist at the mome... [21:54:41] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Can not use browsers zoom to see image details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69473#c6 (10Tisza Gergő) (In reply to Tim Starling from comment #1) > I gather [JS zoom] would be much easier than handling browser zoom on all > browsers. I am not sure about that;... [22:12:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Can not use browsers zoom to see image details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69473#c7 (10Tisza Gergő) (In reply to Tim Starling from comment #5) > I note that Google Maps has interface text overlaying the image, so there's > a relatively sensible action to take... [22:16:26] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3UploadWizard: scale UploadWizard to sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69624#c2 (10Tisza Gergő) Making UploadWizard useful for all Wikimedia projects is certainly something the Multimedia team intends to examine. Whether that involves wikitext-based configuration (ugh... [22:34:11] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3MultimediaViewer: Make the page visible in the background when the lightbox is open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69582#c3 (10Tisza Gergő) Changing how the history behaves is bug 62266.