[01:16:39] <comets>	 is its still possible to edit description field of flickr files u are uploading and not crash your browser?
[14:57:53] <Steinsplitter>	 marktraceur: hi :)
[14:58:40] <Steinsplitter>	 you about? or tgr?
[15:50:07] <thedj>	 Steinsplitter: can i help ?
[16:08:23] <Steinsplitter>	 thedj: hey :), see the COM:VP proposals.  the suggestion abot upwizard
[16:12:18] <thedj>	 oh.
[16:15:02] <thedj>	 yeah should be easy to enable.
[16:15:15] <thedj>	 changes to it will take a while though I presume...
[16:16:12] <thedj>	 i think that there were big problems with both using the same wizard though. 
[16:17:01] <thedj>	 there were also some ideas to kill it all togehter, or to dupe the wizard into two seperate wizards
[16:18:27] <thedj>	 so the biggest problem with enabling it wider would be: "but then we need to maintain it and can never get rid of it again"
[18:17:37] <Steinsplitter>	 thedj: imho a problem is that it is possible to fake the LR tag.
[18:18:16] <thedj>	 I have not looked into that, but i presume the tag can easily be removed
[18:18:44] <thedj>	 is the problem that the person uploading == the person leaving the LF tag ?
[18:18:49] <thedj>	 LR
[18:20:15] <Steinsplitter>	 thedj: this process need to be 100% safe.
[18:20:21] <Steinsplitter>	 it is also important for wmflegal.
[18:20:38] <Steinsplitter>	 this is a confirmation that the file was once liocensed under
[18:20:54] <thedj>	 Steinsplitter: just leav it out, do it the same way it has always been done.
[18:21:21] <Steinsplitter>	 we can't change teh softewar , onle the wmf
[18:21:25] <Steinsplitter>	 and it is wmf's work...
[18:21:43] <thedj>	 Steinsplitter: what is the EXACT name of the template that needs to be removed
[18:21:48] <thedj>	 and is there a ticket ?
[18:21:56] <Steinsplitter>	 no.
[18:22:04] <Steinsplitter>	 you are commons admin right?
[18:22:05] <thedj>	 cause i have the code in front of me, so i'll make the change on the spot.
[18:22:10] <Steinsplitter>	 so you schould know it
[18:22:31] <Steinsplitter>	 LicenseRewiev not via JS but via PHP
[18:22:37] <Steinsplitter>	 with JS you can manipulate it.
[18:30:48] <thedj>	 FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard
[18:30:50] <thedj>	 so that one ?
[18:31:05] <thedj>	 thanks for saving me 10mins...
[18:34:14] <thedj>	 Steinsplitter: so i propose this. I rename it to {{FlickrByUploadWizard}}
[18:34:29] <thedj>	 and we make a new template.
[18:34:33] <thedj>	 simple enough.
[18:38:34] <Steinsplitter>	 thedj: why a new template?  
[18:38:52] <Steinsplitter>	 We only need to fix the usuisse 
[18:39:58] <thedj>	 fix how ?
[18:41:30] <thedj>	 what is usuisse..
[18:50:31] <thedj>	 Steinsplitter: Template:FlickrByUploadWizard
[18:52:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10TheDJ: Flickr: The community does not consider UW uploads verified [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158887 
[18:55:07] <Steinsplitter>	 AFAIK, the verification tag set by UploadWizard can be easily faked. The feature - as currently restricted to a group that can be probably trusted not to fake these tags - gives at least some certainty about the uploaded work's licensing information. -- Rillke(q?) 14:27, 5 September 2014 (UTC) 
[18:55:11] <Steinsplitter>	 thedj^^ this is the problem
[18:56:45] <thedj>	 yeah, so Template:FlickrByUploadWizard no longer claims that this is verified
[18:57:13] <Steinsplitter>	 why not including this in upload wizard?
[18:57:20] <Steinsplitter>	 why we need a new bot now`? :/
[18:57:43] <thedj>	 The UW can't verify a license
[18:57:52] <thedj>	 the UW runs at the user's computer.
[18:58:00] <thedj>	 so it inherently cannot be trusted
[18:58:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Nemo bis: Flickr: The community does not consider UW uploads verified [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158887 (owner: 10TheDJ)
[18:58:21] <Steinsplitter>	 ok. but the UW can send a server site request to the api?
[18:58:26] <Steinsplitter>	 *flickr api
[18:58:51] <Steinsplitter>	 and mabye we schould use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Flickrreview - we have a bot for this template?
[18:59:15] <thedj>	 i don't think production hardware is allowed to randomly make outgoing calls to external websites. that would be strange
[18:59:58] <thedj>	 perhaps it can, but even then, it would requires significant rework, which is simply not on the roadmap right now
[19:01:06] <Steinsplitter>	 ok, thanks for helping^^
[19:08:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Nemo bis: "I'm not so convinced https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Proposals&diff=prev&oldid=133936354" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158887 (owner: 10TheDJ)
[19:12:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Steinsplitter: "@Nemo: Bots code is open source on tooslabs. And there is a huge abuse potential if everyone can fake such tags. LR is a process with a lo" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158887 (owner: 10TheDJ)
[19:13:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Steinsplitter: "TheDJ: Thanks for this patch! :) , can we use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Flickrreview as default template (Atm. a bot is " [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158887 (owner: 10TheDJ)
[19:50:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: WIP Add missing qqq messages, remove unused messages [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155850 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[19:50:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jforrester: Set up an npm test pipeline for JS, CSS and banana i18n messages [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155833 
[19:51:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "PS4 is a rebase." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155850 (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[19:51:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "PS5 is a rebase and reduction in scope of changes (see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/155833/4..5/.jscsrc for reduced scope)." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155833 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[20:51:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10TheDJ: "that would break the categorization of files. I could split it into two templates of course." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158887 (owner: 10TheDJ)
[21:01:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Fix test failures [extensions/ImageMetrics] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158891 
[22:20:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10TheDJ: Feedback: Use a proper URL for the feedback page link [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158896