[09:46:13] well, a good reminder to add the metrics to the graphs now that figures are hitting the EL tables :) [09:46:47] pginer: will you have time to handle https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/169026/ today? [09:46:57] if not I can try my hand at making the spacing, etc. close to the mockup [09:47:14] I’m working on it [09:47:19] awesome, thanks [10:18:41] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Add options menu metrics [analytics/multimedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169667 [10:19:16] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] "Tested by querying the production SQL server" [analytics/multimedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169667 (owner: 10Gilles) [10:19:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add options menu metrics [analytics/multimedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169667 (owner: 10Gilles) [10:58:47] gi11es, I’m also adjusting the icons. I added the author and uploader. But the more complex one is finding a generic icon for non CC licenses. I explored some here: http://imgur.com/a/NF2cg [10:59:12] any preference? [11:00:04] let's discuss that on the team meeting later today? it can be a follow-up changeset [11:00:32] ok, I’ll submit without this change [11:04:49] (03PS1) 10Gilles: Add options menu metrics [analytics/multimedia/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169673 [11:05:28] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] "Tested locally" [analytics/multimedia/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169673 (owner: 10Gilles) [11:05:44] (03PS9) 10Pginer: Change above-the-fold layout - step 3 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169026 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [11:06:45] (03CR) 10Gilles: [V: 032] Add options menu metrics [analytics/multimedia/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169673 (owner: 10Gilles) [11:08:53] prominent disable link is prominent: multimedia-metrics.wmflabs.org/dashboards/mmv_commonswiki#opt_in_opt_out-graphs-tab [11:09:15] http://multimedia-metrics.wmflabs.org/dashboards/mmv_commonswiki#opt_in_opt_out-graphs-tab [11:09:17] pginer: a separate PD icon would be an easy win [11:09:52] yes, that will be easy to add. But we’ll need a fallback in any case [11:10:07] and since the commons deploy happens pretty late in the UTC day, this is only a partial day change-wise [11:10:50] tgr, and I’ll need a public-domain class to apply the icon [11:10:55] yes, but I don't think there is any easy-to recognize general copyright icon (apart from (C) which we obviously don't want to use) but there is a widely-known PD icon: [11:10:59] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/ [11:11:13] if it's any consolation, while disable event double (100 -> 200), enable events triple (10 -> 30) :P [11:11:17] pginer: I'll add that if you agree there should be a separate icon for that [11:12:25] yes a specific icon for common licenses will help. A PD inside a circle will not take much of my time [11:12:32] gi11es: logged-in opt-out events don't seem to ne affected though [11:12:58] what's left if it's not CC and not a form of PD? [11:13:29] gi11es: fair use. copyrighted, a zillion obscure free licenses [11:13:48] copyrighted is actually useful for non-commons and the (c) would be appropriate [11:14:25] see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_tags for a full list [11:14:36] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Fair_use_logo.svg/500px-Fair_use_logo.svg.png [11:14:58] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fair_use_logo.svg rather [11:15:40] clever [11:16:16] at any rate, we don't have machine-readable markup to identify fair use or copyrighted licenses at the moment [11:16:23] right [11:16:44] we can't even tell if it's a free license, although guillome is working on fixing that [11:19:16] pginer: I think the standard PD icon is a crossed C [11:19:37] (03PS1) 10Pginer: Fix open panel detection when scrolling [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169676 [11:20:26] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Fix open panel detection when scrolling [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169676 (owner: 10Pginer) [11:21:28] pginer: the !! becomes useless in that case, just get rid of it [11:21:42] (03PS2) 10Pginer: Fix open panel detection when scrolling [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169676 [11:21:48] for misc licenses, maybe go with some sort of reuse icon? [11:22:12] the problem with reuse icon is that it may look actionable when it is not [11:22:24] thanks gi11es, done [11:23:50] gi11es: http://multimedia-metrics.wmflabs.org/graphs/mmv_optout_commonswiki do you think that's worth fixing? [11:24:13] do you know what happened there? [11:24:21] end of WLM? [11:24:33] or is it an issue on our end? [11:24:47] that's when I cleaned up the DB, but more generally, we can't handle the opt-in model [11:25:11] ah, right. just leave it, eventually the puzzling drop will be out of view :) [11:25:20] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Fix open panel detection when scrolling [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169676 (owner: 10Pginer) [11:26:11] so basically it shows the difference between opt-out and opt-in now [11:27:08] probably worth adding an explanation below the graph [11:27:24] the description which is currently there has a typo anyway [11:27:52] on that note [11:28:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix open panel detection when scrolling [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169676 (owner: 10Pginer) [11:28:13] what do you think of using a proper templating language? [11:28:37] I haven't followed the analytics discussions, is worth to be still tendind limn or is it on its way out? [11:29:26] it's definitely on its way out. you should watch their recent tech talk where they showcase the "new stuff" which pginer designed [11:30:36] the interesting part for us is that the way the data is exposed is streamlined and the dashboard source code is tons shorter, which means we'll be able to hack our own [11:30:47] if what they provide doesn't do what we need [11:31:27] I have a huge list of tech talks to watch when I am on vacation :) [11:32:18] I think limn's biggest weakness was that it was a giant pile of that higher level language that compiles to JS whose name escapes me [11:32:27] I really couldn't be bothered learning that niche language [11:32:38] coffeescript? [11:32:49] a derivative of that, I think [11:32:51] I'm not sure [11:33:14] it's not that hard to read actually, it's basically javascript that wishes it would be ruby [11:34:00] but the whole app has probably more layers of abstraction than KLOCs [11:34:01] not hard to read, but still a learning curve to work with. I tried hacking some things in limn and it was an intense exercise in frustration [11:34:08] the libraries used were poorly documented [11:36:14] that's what it's written in: https://github.com/satyr/coco [11:36:25] since coffeescript wasn't obscure enough... [11:37:25] someone felt adventurous to pick a language maintained with 29 contributors [11:37:42] :) [11:39:29] pginer: the CSS update looks great [11:39:53] thanks [11:40:38] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Change above-the-fold layout - step 3 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169026 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [11:41:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Change above-the-fold layout - step 3 [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169026 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [11:42:23] I mentioned a bunch of problems in the mingle comments, some of those should be solved before deploying IMO [11:42:35] the copyright icon, and the lack of author/source [11:43:13] do you think we should move this back to development or make a new card? [11:44:12] just move back to dev IMO, they are not hard to fix [11:45:17] Regarding lack of author info, are we sure it is missing information, or it may be ina way we are not able to retrieve it? (or both?) [11:58:56] both [11:59:06] so we can't just say "unknown" [12:06:27] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Add icon for PD licenses [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169683 [12:06:46] pginer: ^^ can you add a PD icon to that? [12:07:39] re: missing author info, I would add something like "See file page for author info" [12:08:14] it's possible that the file page does not have any author info other than the uploader, but extremely rare on WMF wikis [12:13:09] Regarding Public Domain, which is the most common representation? I have seen the PD inside a circle, but also a stiked C [12:15:08] Regardign author, we can just show a “view author information” link and point to the file page. The user don’t have to think about what the “file page” is. [12:18:45] on Commons, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/PD-icon.svg/64px-PD-icon.svg.png is the standard PD icon [12:19:46] CC uses http://i.creativecommons.org/p/mark/1.0/88x31.png [12:20:15] Noun project: http://thenounproject.com/term/public-domain/669/ [12:20:57] my impression is that the striked C is more common in general, but I might be influenced by having spent a lot of time on Commons [12:25:47] I’m not a fan of the icon because it looks like something is forbidden, while the idea is that you can use it for whatever you want. But if it is the standard, I’ll go with it [12:30:01] what should we do when there is no author but there is a source? [12:30:31] just display the source in the same space or still show "view author information"? [12:31:35] I’d show just the source [12:32:09] We are already providing authorship details and the “more details button” should be enough. [12:47:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3TimedMediaHandler: Dynamically loading TimedMediaHandler for new content (preview) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72675 (10Cacycle) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3enhanc a:3None I would like to dynamically load TimedMediaHandler for new content (i.e. previews in wikEd). So far I kind... [13:03:45] (03PS2) 10Pginer: Add icon for PD licenses [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169683 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:09:42] (03CR) 10Pginer: Add icon for PD licenses (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169683 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:11:05] *yawn* much moving, very tired [13:14:05] So someone should probably phone me into the hangout today [13:14:19] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: Add icon for PD licenses (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169683 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:14:22] Because I don't have sane Interwebs until about an hour into the meeting [13:15:14] Assuming the cable guy shows up, as per usual, at the end of the window [13:20:17] a telephone? where might we find this. at the museum? [13:20:37] gi11es: I have a computer with an emulator [13:20:38] hangout can do that to US numbers out of the box, right? [13:20:43] Yeah, I believe so [13:21:19] In similar museum-y news, I bought a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Pikachu [13:22:05] I should take a picture, there's none of the original apparently [13:23:11] all I have to say is http://38.media.tumblr.com/c6bc02bc1e6d8241d5d301bd0a6865a1/tumblr_ne3oqoDEAf1r539hzo1_500.jpg [13:23:34] he looks expensive to feed [13:27:45] Indeed. [13:29:40] Uploading a several-megabyte picture over my phone's tethered 4G. Nothing could possibly go wrong [13:31:49] Done, yay [13:45:44] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Display a placeholder text when author and source are missing [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169697 [13:52:44] * marktraceur fidgets, cannot put desk together yet [13:52:56] Need to wait until neighbors will be slightly less mad about hammering [13:57:52] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Fix optout graph description [analytics/multimedia/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169698 [13:59:25] But at least I have a real desk again for the first time since SF [13:59:32] Mighty pretty one too [14:12:31] I'm going to run to the grocery store (AGAIN) to get some things, brb [14:32:32] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Fix optout graph description [analytics/multimedia/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169698 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:33:15] (03CR) 10Gilles: [V: 032] Fix optout graph description [analytics/multimedia/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169698 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:54:57] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 04-1] Display a placeholder text when author and source are missing (031 comment) [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169697 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:56:11] (03CR) 10Gilles: "I believe this can be abandoned now" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162835 (owner: 10Pginer) [14:56:44] (03Abandoned) 10Pginer: Remove chevron pointing down and full-screen adjustment [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/162835 (owner: 10Pginer) [14:59:28] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 04-1] Trim trailing dots in UploadWizard filename (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169326 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71704) (owner: 1001tonythomas) [14:59:33] * marktraceur halps [15:00:35] I'm reviewing stuff [15:01:51] I'm not super convinced about the usefulness of that change [15:02:02] seems like trying to solve someone's OCD and not a source of actual problems [15:02:10] the files can be renamed, can't they? [15:02:17] moved, that is [15:02:18] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: Points upload events to the right schema (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168563 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72360) (owner: 10Gilles) [15:03:04] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Points upload events to the right schema [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168563 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72360) (owner: 10Gilles) [15:03:23] gi11es: True, but I'm pretty sure editors' OCD is one of our core use cases [15:03:38] I'm shocked it's not a top-five priority to be honest [15:03:57] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 031] "Leaving +2 to gi11es, should be quick, I just changed the docstrings" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168563 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72360) (owner: 10Gilles) [15:04:22] Oh wait, shit, if I'm calling into the hangout, I can't answer the phone for the cable guy [15:04:25] PLANNING [15:04:25] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Points upload events to the right schema [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168563 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72360) (owner: 10Gilles) [15:04:32] Maybe I'll try hangouts with audio only [15:04:47] can't your phone take two calls at once, letting you switch? [15:05:02] Yes, but I don't want to miss part of the meeting [15:05:10] Plus I don't trust my phone to do anything properly [15:05:18] quick, buy a second phone in the next 55 minuntes [15:05:27] Not infeasible, probably [15:05:30] But not desirable [15:06:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Points upload events to the right schema [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168563 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72360) (owner: 10Gilles) [15:09:53] pginer: can we remove the 'No description available' placeholder? [15:10:08] Yes, we should [15:10:16] I tried to work out when it should be shown, but it's really confusing [15:10:31] I think I commented that somewhere. [15:18:14] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Replace filename with caption/description [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169719 [15:25:28] marktraceur: are you going to need more time off this coming sprint? [15:27:54] gi11es: Probably not, despite small distractions from time to time [15:28:03] For example when I forget that silverware is necessary for eating [15:34:02] Luckily that problem is fixed now, and I won't have to eat cereal with an ice cream scoop again [15:39:07] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Display a placeholder text when author and source are missing [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169697 [15:41:28] what, we are having the meeting one hour earlier today? [15:41:34] time zones are fun [15:41:38] daylight savings, yo [15:43:00] gi11es: what did you think of Denny's recommendations yesterday? [15:43:21] what specifically? [15:43:42] about how our whole approach for structured data is wrong [15:47:25] I agree with some of his points, like the fact that the high-level API being defined before the community puts together the structure it will have to translate to/from is risky [15:47:39] as well as overplanning things before putting something in the community's hands [15:48:54] I'm not sure I agree, but definitely very insightful points and they would merit further discussion [15:50:16] specifically, it would be interesting to see if community-created schemas were used successfuly as a stable API before [15:50:30] like how easily people managed to use them in infoboxes [15:50:51] maybe just start a thread about this on wikidata-l? [15:50:53] hi, I'm trying to fetch from APIs the License informations of the images. Is this possible? [15:51:06] I don't think it will be stable enough for 3rd-party developers. some people build apps and then leave them to rot, and it would be a shame for them to stop working as soon as the community changes something [15:51:13] hi fale, on a basic level it is [15:51:34] tgr: do you have any link/doc about it? [15:51:57] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Bimageinfo [15:52:03] but defining what that standard layer is before we have even a vague idea of how the community will organize data is putting the cart before the horse, imho. it's good to play with prototypes but going too far might be a waste of energy that would have been better spent later [15:52:08] with iiprop=extmetadata [15:52:59] OK, I have internet, but it remains to be seen if the installation will be finished in time [15:53:03] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CommonsMetadata#Returned_data for not-entirely-up-to-date documentation on the returned fields [15:53:03] the fact that we were able to create commonsmetadata is kind of irrelevant, because the structure of templates has had a long time to stabilize. it will take time for the same to happen to structured data [15:53:04] tgr: thankyou :) [15:53:10] I'll open the window at least, I might be a few minutes late [15:58:41] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Add icon for PD licenses [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169683 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [15:58:56] gi11es: I have two concerns with this, one is that it means a huge delay [15:59:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add icon for PD licenses [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169683 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [15:59:31] at least a year until Wikibase on Commons actually happens, plus howerever long forming the metadata schemas takes after that [16:00:11] what's the hurry in using this new layer? we're getting by without it [16:00:12] OTOH Denny certainly had a good point about extremely scarce resources, so maybe that's not a real problem [16:57:04] Oh! [16:57:14] tgr, gi11es, anything specific for SoS? [16:57:30] don't think so [16:57:39] OK then [16:58:00] I'll say something vague like "Something something UploadWizard, something something CommonsMetadata, something something ImageMetrics" [17:02:44] (03PS1) 10Pginer: Layout adjustment for right data column [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169746 [17:04:00] I submitted a patchset to fix the layout issue of the license appearing at an unpredictable position. [17:05:06] It may be improved, but with the current layout organisation, it solves the issue that Fabrice mentioned in the meeting. [17:12:59] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "...wait, what happened to PS2" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168659 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:13:12] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "Oh, paranoia, the core patch changed." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168659 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:16:18] tgr: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/151127/ does UW need support for functions? I didn't realize we used that [17:18:21] well, that patch uses it [17:18:38] I mean passing a function to the message parameter [17:29:08] (03CR) 10Gilles: [C: 032] Add more detailed stash error messages [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168659 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:30:10] Oh. [17:30:15] Well then, I should probably add that [17:40:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add more detailed stash error messages [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/168659 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:41:40] \o/ [17:45:27] hmmm, with core and UW up to date on my vm, I get an infinite spinner for the tutorial and nothing happening [17:46:07] Weird [17:46:12] gi11es: Usually there's an error message [17:46:30] right, I get nothing and there are no pending http requests [17:46:47] Werd [17:46:53] gi11es: Let me try.p [17:47:38] No problem here...trying without debug [17:47:47] Nope [17:47:51] I'l restart the world and see if it helps [17:47:54] Heh [17:53:44] yeah, firefox had gone nuts silently [17:53:50] very odd, I've never seen it behave like that before [17:55:25] You've never seen Firefox behave unexpectedly? [17:55:35] * marktraceur wants whatever FF binaries *you've* been getting [17:55:44] not like that, like some JS would work fine and some would fail silently [17:56:11] (03CR) 10Gilles: "I find the jumping a bit jarring. Can this be animated by any chance?" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169746 (owner: 10Pginer) [18:31:59] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "See Iffe106cfc5430aaeb2c56b83316116b2c5dd5835" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151127 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [18:32:04] tgr: ^^ :) [19:03:49] pginer: could you modify the ellipsis images so that the dots are at the bottom? [19:12:43] weird. in UploadWizard for a little while, the Next button to the Use page after the file upload did nothing, but now I can't reproduce the problem [19:17:17] (03PS2) 10Pginer: Layout adjustment for right data column [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169746 [19:17:30] chrismcmahon: Well...that's good, right? :) [19:18:36] marktraceur: I found it in the browser test failure, repro'd, was all set to take a screen shot to demo, but closed the browser by accident. Tried 4 more times to repro, but no luck. [19:18:43] just a heads up I guess [19:19:24] (03CR) 10Pginer: "I added a transition. Unfortunately width:auto does not animate and I didn't wanted to constrain the area for the license display. So I us" [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169746 (owner: 10Pginer) [19:19:49] tgr, are those images visible on a patchset? [19:25:24] (03PS13) 10MarkTraceur: Make tutorial step a controller and UI class [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151785 [19:25:32] tgr, I was linking to the standard icons. Do you prefer the images to just contain the ellipsis without margin around them (so that they can be positioned in CSS), or keep the same margins and move them down? [19:25:47] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: "Simple rebase, because apparently I'm smarter than Gerrit." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/151785 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [19:29:51] tgr, let me know by email or Mingle comment, I have to leave [19:48:05] (03PS7) 10MarkTraceur: Move setSkipTutorialPreference to Tutorial class [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153413 [19:51:48] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Make the ellipsis of truncated texts more prominent [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169785 [20:01:49] Ughhh so much conflict on the next one [20:03:47] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] "SVGs need a small adjustment." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169785 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:09:32] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Replace filename with caption/description [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169719 [20:09:42] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Make the ellipsis of truncated texts more prominent [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169785 [20:18:40] (03PS5) 10MarkTraceur: Make details and deed steps more sane [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153431 [20:18:41] That was SO STUPID [20:18:55] Like 5000 instances of "OMG EVERYTHING MOVED WHERE IS THE DIFF ACTUALLY" [20:19:05] Maybe only 4000. [20:19:14] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make details and deed steps more sane [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153431 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [20:21:20] Shit. [20:22:56] (03PS6) 10MarkTraceur: Make details and deed steps more sane [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153431 [20:32:15] (03PS6) 10MarkTraceur: Move updateFileCounts to the upload controller [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153632 [20:32:19] I have no idea if that worked [20:32:26] I'm going to guess no. [20:32:48] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move updateFileCounts to the upload controller [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153632 (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [20:33:15] I am correct! Not that I wanted to be. [20:36:57] (03PS7) 10MarkTraceur: Move updateFileCounts to the upload controller [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153632 [20:37:08] ffs work damn it [20:48:52] (03PS1) 10Anomie: Add i18n for API module help [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169840 [20:49:01] (03PS1) 10Anomie: Add i18n for API module help [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169844 [20:49:54] Yaaaay [20:50:01] API help improvements, awesomesauce [20:51:13] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Remove default date population with "now" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169858 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53605) [20:51:43] Fast change is fast. [20:57:58] (03CR) 10Anomie: "Note: If any reviewer sees any errors that need fixing, please feel free to fix it and upload a new patchset." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169844 (owner: 10Anomie) [20:58:21] (03CR) 10Anomie: "Note: If any reviewer sees any errors that need fixing, please feel free to fix it and upload a new patchset." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169840 (owner: 10Anomie) [21:01:06] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Remove below-the-fold description [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169865 [21:18:50] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Cast UploadWizardErrorFlowEvent.message to string [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/169919 [21:59:27] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: Upload new file version: Auto convert image file format - Add info afterwards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72555#c3 (10Subfader) Turns out the MIME detection is not properly working on the wiki. Then it does this: Upload a PNG > Replace file > Select a JPG > Wait... > Be... [22:20:14] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3CommonsMetadata: Ignore EXIF data when it's invalid? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71719#c2 (10Guillaume Paumier) And more: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File%3AGilt_silver_jar_with_pattern_of_dancing_horses.jpg has "OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA" as image title [23:07:28] 3MediaWiki / 3File management: HTTP 500 errors with certain JPEG thumbnails: "Fractional sampling not implemented yet" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/72511#c9 (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart]) Sorry for my last comment, is not for this bug report. [23:48:27] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3CommonsMetadata: Ignore EXIF data when it's invalid? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/71719#c3 (10Tisza Gergő) I wonder if EXIF shouldn't be ignored completely. Mostly it seems to be autogenerated and less than helpful. E.g. some cameras apparently put something like IMG1234 to the...