[01:50:23] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Upstream: Indexed PNG thumbnails are blurrier than true-color - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31659#1509460 (10MarkAHershberger) >>! In T31659#1501625, @McZusatz wrote: >>>! In T31659#318148, @brion wrote: >> Version: ImageMagick 6.6.2-6 2011-03-16 Q16 http://w...
[02:01:38] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Score, 7I18n, 7Upstream: ABC notation not support Chinese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49558#1509473 (10Liuxinyu970226)
[02:48:08] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: o/
[04:02:07] <prtksxna>	 James_F|Away: Thanks
[04:49:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Brion VIBBER: Add defs for 240p transcodes for 3G streaming and slow devices [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/226443 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104063) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[04:51:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Brion VIBBER: Re-queue missing or new transcodes on action=purge [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103116) 
[05:31:49] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Hi there, how's it goin'
[05:51:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Brion VIBBER: Fix various regressions in transcode list/update [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103116) 
[05:51:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Brion VIBBER: Add self to authors for TMH [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229325 
[05:51:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Brion VIBBER: Update TMH default transcode set [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229326 
[05:51:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: [C: 032] Add self to authors for TMH [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229325 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[05:51:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "Ok updated this patch a bunch. :) Fixes several transcode-related regressions as the code was all intertwined." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103116) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[05:52:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add self to authors for TMH [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229325 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[05:54:30] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 5Patch-For-Review: Spurious Ogg Vorbis transcodes of WebM videos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104571#1509742 (10brion) This is now covered by fix in review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/219586/
[06:01:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: Update TMH default transcode set (031 comment) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229326 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[06:05:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: Update TMH default transcode set (031 comment) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229326 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[06:07:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Brion VIBBER: Update TMH default transcode set [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229326 
[06:07:16] <marktraceur>	 brion: Go to bed man
[06:07:20] * marktraceur looks at clock
[06:07:25] <brion>	 hehe
[06:07:25] <marktraceur>	 marktraceur: GO TO BED MAN
[06:07:26] <brion>	 :D
[06:09:28] * brion backs away from the browser
[06:12:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: "I take it "Bug: T104063" is appropriate?" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229326 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[06:49:06] <Romaine>	 marktraceur: it is here 8:00 am
[06:49:08] <Romaine>	 :)
[08:00:53] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team, 5MW-1.26-release, 5WMF-deploy-2015-07-28_(1.26wmf16): ThumbnailRender job spam due to HTTP 500s - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106740#1509885 (10Gilles)
[08:04:13] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management: inconsistent contrast for PNG thumbnail creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107706#1509892 (10Gilles)
[08:04:15] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 7Easy, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Upstream: Greyscale pngs without gAMA chunk rendered with incorrect contrast - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106516#1509894 (10Gilles)
[08:07:31] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team, 7Swift: Investigate Swift replacement for thumbnails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77697#1509911 (10Gilles)
[08:25:00] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Browser-Tests, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer: Fix failed MultimediaViewer browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94157#1509944 (10Gilles) a:5Gilles>3None I haven't had spare cycles for this in a long time... Un-licking this cookie since I don't think I sho...
[08:34:37] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 7Easy, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Upstream: Greyscale pngs without gAMA chunk rendered with incorrect contrast - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106516#1509988 (10McZusatz) >>! In T106516#1470598, @Bawolff wrote: > I just tested on most recent image magick. Can confirm that upgrading i...
[09:01:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Gilles: Add most common non-bucket size to statsv performance tracking [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105681) 
[09:18:10] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Tarball-Backports, and 7 others: InstantCommons broken by switch to HTTPS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102566#1510076 (10Tau) {F459729}  Have some problems with running this patch...
[10:53:40] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Investigate graphicsmagick performance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107885#1510296 (10Jarry1250) It would be useful to test their performance programmatically over a larger sample (say, 1000 random PNGs and 1000 random JPGs), I think. In pa...
[12:46:21] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: I saw the time after pinging you and didn't expect you to reply, so didn't check IRC
[12:46:31] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Fixed the i18n stuff and left inline comments
[12:46:49] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Won't we have to do the commons dialog before we integrate with VE?
[12:47:13] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: I need to setup a meeting with NickServ to discuss the dialog's design
[12:47:25] <prtksxna>	 Nirzar, not NickServ :P
[12:50:17] <prtksxna>	 Done, set one up for today
[12:52:04] <MatmaRex>	 (i will be online later today, if anyone's looking for me.)
[13:13:14] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: I'd like to make sure we're doing it correctly before we step too far down the path to the Commons dialog.
[13:20:49] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Upstream: Indexed PNG thumbnails are blurrier than true-color - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31659#1510583 (10McZusatz) ``` $ convert -version Version: ImageMagick 6.8.8-10 Q16 x86_64 2015-03-10 http://www.imagemagick.org Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2014 Ima...
[13:27:42] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Custom license in UploadWizard is not validated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106274#1510598 (10Jarekt) Upload Wizard seems to allow creation of 2 types of files without a license templates: 1) some of them are tagged with {{Remove this line and insert a...
[13:28:07] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 7Easy, 7JavaScript: "Use recommended license" should be changed or should actually use the site's recommended license - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105179#1510599 (10Haritha28) a:3Haritha28
[13:29:44] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Custom license in UploadWizard is not validated and allows upload of files without a license - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106274#1510602 (10Jarekt) p:5Triage>3Normal
[13:30:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Brion VIBBER: Update TMH default transcode set [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229326 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104063) 
[13:45:20] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 5Patch-For-Review: Add 240p transcode with lower bandwidth for future mobile streaming - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104063#1510644 (10brion) (status update: recent changes increased the bandwidth on .ogv transcodes; there's a patch to enable 240p...
[14:32:12] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Have you done VE plugins before? Or should we wait for MatmaRex to return so we can bother him about this
[14:43:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Brion VIBBER: Fix various regressions in transcode list/update [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103116) 
[15:01:01] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: I haven't
[15:01:32] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Yeah, that makes sense
[15:07:44] <prtksxna>	 James_F: Is there a link to the roadmap that TrevorP|Away was referring to?
[15:08:08] <James_F>	 prtksxna: No, it's the three bullet points we talked through a couple of months ago.
[15:08:21] <prtksxna>	 James_F: Oh, alright.
[15:31:20] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: I assume you haven't yet found the gem of a joke I've left on Gerrit (inline comment) :P
[15:32:32] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Ahahahaha
[15:52:50] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: :D
[16:19:51] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Create NonFreeWiki as a parallel to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108030#1511066 (10Krenair)
[16:19:57] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Create something similar to ogv.js for webm - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108046#1511067 (10Paladox) 3NEW
[16:39:26] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Create NonFreeWiki as a parallel to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108030#1511188 (10Green_Giant) I suspect it would have been a Sister Projects Committee (<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sister_Projects_Committee>) but this is not likely to be r...
[17:43:46] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Create NonFreeWiki as a parallel to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108030#1511553 (10Glaisher) 5Open>3declined a:3Glaisher It looks like what you want is actually a test wiki for demoing purposes. If so, a Labs instance would be better suite...
[17:56:44] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Create NonFreeWiki as a parallel to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108030#1511660 (10Glaisher)  Sorry, I forgot to provide instructions on how to request new projects on Labs. See T76375 and https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Labs-vagrant
[18:06:07] <marktraceur>	 Whew
[18:06:14] <marktraceur>	 Biked six miles in an hour. Good timing.
[18:16:06] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: around?
[18:31:10] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Tarball-Backports, and 7 others: InstantCommons broken by switch to HTTPS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102566#1511799 (10Tgr) It sounds like you already had that commit locally. How did you install MediaWiki, tarballs or a git checkout?
[18:34:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] Add most common non-bucket size to statsv performance tracking [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105681) (owner: 10Gilles)
[18:35:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add most common non-bucket size to statsv performance tracking [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105681) (owner: 10Gilles)
[18:54:00] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: !ask
[19:07:19] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Create something similar to ogv.js for webm - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108046#1511980 (10brion) ogv.js includes some experimental WebM support but is much slower, which is why we're using the Ogg video transcodes for the ogv.js player.
[19:09:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Kai Nissen (WMDE): [UploadWizard] Introducing the usage of an object reference [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229456 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105283) 
[19:10:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [UploadWizard] Introducing the usage of an object reference [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229456 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105283) (owner: 10Kai Nissen (WMDE))
[19:10:38] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Create something similar to ogv.js for webm - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108046#1511993 (10Paladox) Oh ok well when I play a webm file it plays it in ogv format but doesent play webm format.
[19:11:31] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Create something similar to ogv.js for webm - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108046#1511994 (10brion) That's correct, yes.
[19:12:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Kai Nissen (WMDE): [UploadWizard] Introducing the usage of an object reference [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229456 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105283) 
[19:13:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Paladox: Add vp9 support [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211726 (owner: 10Paladox)
[19:13:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS41) 10Paladox: Add support for 4K videos [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210407 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98694) 
[19:13:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [UploadWizard] Introducing the usage of an object reference [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229456 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105283) (owner: 10Kai Nissen (WMDE))
[19:14:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: "@Brion VIBBER Should 4k use vp9 or use both vp8 and vp9." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210407 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98694) (owner: 10Paladox)
[19:21:28] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler: Create something similar to ogv.js for webm - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108046#1512025 (10Paladox) Ok. Well thanks for the support and continue the great effort.
[19:23:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Paladox: Make register a public static [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229465 
[19:24:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Kai Nissen (WMDE): [UploadWizard] Introducing the usage of an object reference [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229456 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105283) 
[19:25:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: [C: 031] "Test error is not related." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229397 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63805) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[19:27:37] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Decided to draft a comment for upload task instead
[19:27:53] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Spoke to nirzar about how he'd ideally like to integrate with VE
[19:28:21] <prtksxna>	 Got some good insights. I don't think I'll post the comment today (too sleepy), but will write an initial draft
[19:28:28] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: OK, cool
[19:28:29] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Did you get a change to look at the patch agian?
[19:28:44] <marktraceur>	 I got halfway through it before lunch but haven't come back to it yet...
[19:29:20] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Alright
[19:29:56] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: From what I understand we won't have to re-work it, just show and hide actionModes intelligently based on the context (more on that in the comment)
[19:30:38] <marktraceur>	 OK.
[19:30:49] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Do you have thoughts about VE integration, then?
[19:30:55] <marktraceur>	 matma still isn't back
[19:31:12] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: Yes, I do. Design, not technical.
[19:31:33] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: The technical part shouldn't be too hard I guess, its just a dialog…
[19:32:09] <marktraceur>	 That's what I'm worried about, I'm not convinced it's so trivial, but I have zero experience with successfully hacking VE
[19:32:34] * prtksxna chooses not to worry about it
[19:32:39] <marktraceur>	 Probably a fine plan
[19:32:46] <marktraceur>	 If Matma comes back I'll pester him about it.
[19:33:10] <prtksxna>	 Cool :)
[19:34:07] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: We'll have separate subclasses for VE upload and general Commons upload.
[19:34:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "I would recommend doing 1440p and 2160p definitions in VP9 only; the bandwidth needs get bigger and bigger at these resolutions and VP9 ca" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210407 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98694) (owner: 10Paladox)
[19:34:24] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: To reduce some complexity for VE users
[19:35:42] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Separate or dependent?
[19:35:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Paladox: Move hooks from hooks file to Main php file and also some updates to sql [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229470 
[19:35:46] <marktraceur>	 I mean
[19:35:58] <marktraceur>	 You could probably mixin the VE or WikiEditor specific stuff
[19:36:13] <prtksxna>	 hmm
[19:36:14] <marktraceur>	 That way you could have a Commons upload *or* a local upload
[19:36:34] <prtksxna>	 oh
[19:36:44] <prtksxna>	 Are we going to give users that choice on the wikipedias?
[19:37:04] <marktraceur>	 Maybe not right now.
[19:37:14] <marktraceur>	 No reason not to allow it
[19:38:09] <prtksxna>	 Right, we won't limit it technically.
[19:38:30] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: How would a user make a choice of which is a better place to upload to?
[19:38:39] <prtksxna>	 Choice of licenses?
[19:40:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Paladox: Add license name to main php file credits [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229474 
[19:43:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Paladox: Add translatible name support to TimedMediaHandler [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229479 
[19:44:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Brion VIBBER: Work in progress: WebM VP9/Opus transcodes [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229397 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63805) 
[19:45:24] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Yeah, basically
[19:45:35] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: And commons has more?
[19:45:37] <marktraceur>	 And it would all have to be maintained per-wiki probably
[19:45:47] <marktraceur>	 prtksxna: Well, Commons is where the free things go for the most partt
[19:46:06] <marktraceur>	 There are some non-English Wikipedias with weird public domain status that have free content but I can't name them off the top of my head
[19:46:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: [C: 031] Work in progress: WebM VP9/Opus transcodes [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229397 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63805) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[19:46:53] <marktraceur>	 But pretty much "if you want to use a free license that is not a weird local-Wikipedia license, use Commons" is a sane rule
[19:47:32] <marktraceur>	 brion: Thank god, Paladox is being quick to sign off.
[19:47:43] <brion>	 :)
[19:48:04] <brion>	 he's like an excited puppy, i don't have the heart to kick him
[19:48:31] <marktraceur>	 Apparently he hasn't shat on your carpet yet
[19:49:19] <prtksxna>	 paladox! what is up with him?
[19:49:46] <brion>	 heh
[19:50:36] <marktraceur>	 He's here to rebase patches and chew bubble gum
[19:52:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: "Ok I will do vp9 once your patch is merged. Should it be both vp8 and vp9 to allows users still on vp8 to use it even though it need more " [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/210407 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98694) (owner: 10Paladox)
[22:46:09] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Upstream: Indexed PNG thumbnails are blurrier than true-color - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31659#1512901 (10MarkAHershberger) Any problems with current ImageMagick can be reported in their [[ http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=...