[00:08:44] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Files that contain a pound sign in their name can't be uploaded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74752#1640001 (10Pcoombe) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Pcoombe This seems to be fixed.
[06:55:56] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Please upload large files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111941#1640491 (10Basel_University_Library) Nope for UBBasel_Map_1568_Kartenslg_AA_26-48.tif - it's definitely too big, sorry.  So it's done. Great job! Thanks to all!
[06:56:31] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Please upload large files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111941#1640492 (10Basel_University_Library) 5Open>3Resolved
[11:43:26] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Media-storage: Files disappear and give 404's for the full resolution - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71362#1641066 (10Aklapper) >>! In T71362#731740, @Gilles wrote: > they're part of the cleanup list established for bug 69311 It's unlikely that there is a single bug responsible f...
[11:56:17] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): UploadWizard throws “Error: Unable to parse title“ when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417#1641097 (10matmarex) 5Ope...
[12:13:12] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard throws “Uncaught Error: Unable to parse title ” when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112642#1641111 (10JeanFred) 3NEW
[12:14:24] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard throws “Uncaught Error: Unable to parse title ” when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112642#1641122 (10JeanFred) Funnily, this leaves UploadWizard in a state where cli...
[12:32:05] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard throws “Uncaught Error: Unable to parse title ” when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112642#1641148 (10matmarex) I forgot to mention on T112417 that the fix is not yet...
[12:32:46] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard throws “Uncaught Error: Unable to parse title ” when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112642#1641150 (10matmarex)
[12:32:48] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): UploadWizard throws “Error: Unable to parse title“ when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417#1641152 (10matmarex)
[12:33:03] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): UploadWizard throws “Error: Unable to parse title“ when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417#1641153 (10matmarex) 5Res...
[12:33:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Don't fail horribly when invalid categories are passed [extensions/UploadWizard] (wmf/1.26wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417) 
[12:42:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "There's no 'oo' there, only (correctly) 'OO'." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237922 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[12:44:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove non-existent files/directories from .jshintignore [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238422 
[12:44:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 
[12:45:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Always use 'OO' rather than 'oo' for OOjs and OOjs UI [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237922 
[12:46:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[12:46:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Do not obfuscate class names when adding prototype methods [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237923 
[12:46:09] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: UploadWizard throws “Uncaught Error: Unable to parse title ” when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112642#1641172 (10JeanFred) >>! In T112642#1641148, @matmarex wrote: > I forgot to...
[12:50:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 
[12:51:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[12:54:35] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 6Performance-Team: Optimize thumbs right after creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111633#1641193 (10Gilles) a:3Gilles I'm assigning this to myself to investigate where the gains are being had. I.e. to verify that it's not just metadata we want to keep be...
[12:54:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 
[13:06:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Allow uploading files with the same name but different extension at once [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741) 
[13:17:52] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Tarball-Backports, 5MW-1.23-release, 5Patch-For-Review: Uppercase picture extensions like .PNG are not allowed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68667#1641300 (10Kghbln) @Tgr Thanks a ton for tackling this pretty nasty issue!  @Aklapper Just to cla...
[13:25:55] <gilles>	 https://jwatt.org/blog/2015/09/14/directory-picking-and-drag-and-drop
[13:26:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Allow uploading files with the same name but different extension at once [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741) 
[13:26:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Should be better now." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:08:13] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Allow continuing one or more fully-complete uploads that are in stashed mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85561#1641452 (10matmarex) I like this idea, but I see at least two blockers:  * We don't purge the upload stash of files for which the...
[14:09:56] <marktraceur>	 O.O
[14:10:02] <marktraceur>	 You've been busy MatmaRex
[14:10:51] <MatmaRex>	 plenty of bugs to resolve
[14:12:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Remove non-existent files/directories from .jshintignore [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238422 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:13:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove non-existent files/directories from .jshintignore [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238422 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:37:17] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Step 2: Longer filenames truncated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331#1641507 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex
[14:37:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 
[14:37:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Allow long file names on 'Upload' step to be wrapped [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238452 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331) 
[14:37:56] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 is another thing which could prevent one from uploading a file
[14:42:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Always use 'OO' rather than 'oo' for OOjs and OOjs UI [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237922 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:43:00] <marktraceur>	 Today is the day of "MatmaRex has been dealing with marktraceur's code style for FAR TOO LONG"
[14:43:30] <MatmaRex>	 heh
[14:43:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Always use 'OO' rather than 'oo' for OOjs and OOjs UI [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237922 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:44:27] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: What's the benefit of using "function UWControllerDetails()" instead of just "function ()"?
[14:46:01] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: when you print a uw.controller.Details to the browser console, it displays "UWControllerDetails" rather than "Object"
[14:46:20] <marktraceur>	 Ooh, neat.
[14:48:09] <MatmaRex>	 it doesn't matter usually, but it's an added little convenience sometimes. i didn't bother doing it everywhere, only in the files i touched anyway. VE and OOUI use this convention and i found it pretty helpful there (where you're debugging a widget and want to find out what it is)
[14:50:57] <marktraceur>	 Sure
[14:53:52] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: i think i'll do https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34606#1627096 now, since that part of the UI has been bugging me for a while. not sure how it affects your dialogs work, it probably means you have one dialog less to take care of
[14:54:01] <MatmaRex>	 speaking of which, how's that going?
[14:54:13] <marktraceur>	 The patch exists, I haven't tested most of theme
[14:54:16] <marktraceur>	 them*
[14:54:23] <marktraceur>	 Lots of error dialogs I'm not sure I can trigger easily
[14:54:28] <marktraceur>	 But they look OK.
[14:54:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Do not obfuscate class names when adding prototype methods [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237923 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:55:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Do not obfuscate class names when adding prototype methods [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237923 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:57:05] * James_F waves.
[14:57:16] <James_F>	 What's the next emergency-deploy-for-Commons patch? :-)
[14:57:46] <James_F>	 marktraceur: Also, re-ping on what you think needs doing before we can close https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111791
[14:58:55] <marktraceur>	 James_F: prtksxna is just polishing it up for use in other places
[14:58:59] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: hey, i put one in swat where UW would go belly-up when you provided weird URL parameters.
[14:59:36] <MatmaRex>	 i'm convinced it is very important, but people wanted it, so there. especially since the swat looked empty.
[14:59:44] <MatmaRex>	 i'm *not* convinced.
[15:08:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:09:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove 'mw' as allowed global variable from .jshintrc [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238423 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:10:50] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: Part of me wants to tear out all the code we've ever written to try and avoid title errors in the stash step and just hash the file contents plus a timestamp and use that
[15:11:33] <marktraceur>	 But another part of me knows there will be problems with that, too, somehow
[15:11:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:11:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:12:01] <MatmaRex>	 eh, i think that's fairly reliable, it was just missing this check
[15:12:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Allow long file names on 'Upload' step to be wrapped [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238452 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:12:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:12:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow long file names on 'Upload' step to be wrapped [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238452 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:12:18] <MatmaRex>	 ugh, rebasing
[15:12:27] <James_F>	 marktraceur: OK…
[15:12:31] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Understood.
[15:12:55] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Please upload large files to Wikimedia Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111941#1641642 (10Krenair) a:5Basel_University_Library>3Krenair
[15:13:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 
[15:13:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Allow long file names on 'Upload' step to be wrapped [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238452 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331) 
[15:14:07] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: try again?
[15:15:45] <marktraceur>	 Oh, my.
[15:16:17] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: Manual rebase?
[15:16:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:16:35] <MatmaRex>	 yeah.
[15:16:40] <marktraceur>	 Righto.
[15:17:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Thcipriani: [C: 032] "SWAT" [extensions/UploadWizard] (wmf/1.26wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:20:13] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review: Excess whitespace around UploadWizard checkboxes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110787#1641676 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[15:20:54] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Unit-tests, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 5MW-1.26-release, and 2 others: mediawiki.api.upload.test doesn't tear down spurious <iframe> in document root - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107620#1641681 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[15:21:52] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 5Patch-For-Review: ogv transcode error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109608#1641688 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High
[15:24:07] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: MatmaRex https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/237609/ is somewhat ready for testing and review
[15:25:45] <MatmaRex>	 prtksxna: alrighty, will review in a few minutes
[15:25:56] <MatmaRex>	 or post-hangout i guess
[15:26:01] <prtksxna>	 MatmaRex: Thanks!
[15:26:02] <marktraceur>	 "somewhat"
[15:26:19] <prtksxna>	 marktraceur: :You'll see when you read the commit message :P
[15:26:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Prevent 'filename-toolong' errors during 'Upload' step [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238451 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:26:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Allow long file names on 'Upload' step to be wrapped [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238452 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:26:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't fail horribly when invalid categories are passed [extensions/UploadWizard] (wmf/1.26wmf22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238421 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:41:59] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard: Remove feedback link from UploadWizard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112663#1641760 (10MarkTraceur) 3NEW
[15:42:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 032] Allow uploading files with the same name but different extension at once [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:43:30] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): UploadWizard throws “Error: Unable to parse title“ when a URL parameter (categories) contains characters not allowed in page titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112417#1641770 (10matmarex) 5Ope...
[15:44:07] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: VisualEditor: Initiate file upload by drag-and-drop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40031#1641772 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[15:44:21] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: VisualEditor: Button to initiate UploadWizard and insert image on completion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40030#1641776 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[15:46:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Allow uploading files with the same name but different extension at once [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48741) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:49:55] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GWToolset, 6operations, 7Performance: Undertake a mass upload of 14 million files (1.5 TB) to Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88758#1641805 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[15:52:59] <marktraceur>	 Oh, also, I have a dentist thing today at 13:00, so I'll probably disappear around 12:00 so I can drive there and get lunch on the way
[15:53:08] <marktraceur>	 I may or may not be back at a sane time
[15:55:26] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 7Epic, 7JavaScript: Separate UploadWizard's data-handling, interface, and other controlling methods and put generally-applicable code into MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62002#1641808 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[15:56:04] <James_F>	 marktraceur, prtksxna: What's outstanding on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62002 ? It's marked as blocking https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91717 but there's no commentry or activity.
[15:56:53] <prtksxna>	 James_F: I think mw.Upload and mw.ForeignStructuredUpload resolved this.
[15:57:09] <James_F>	 That answer works for me. :-)
[15:57:33] <Steinsplitter>	 gilles/marctraceur: somone here?
[15:57:39] <marktraceur>	 Steinsplitter: Hi.
[15:57:40] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UploadWizard, 7Epic, 7JavaScript: Separate UploadWizard's data-handling, interface, and other controlling methods and put generally-applicable code into MediaWiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62002#1641822 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-W...
[15:57:41] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: Yes.
[15:57:44] <marktraceur>	 Steinsplitter: Gilles isn't on this team anymore.
[15:57:45] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GWToolset, 6operations, 7Performance: Undertake a mass upload of 14 million files (1.5 TB) to Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88758#1641827 (10Reedy) >>! In T88758#1613381, @fgiunchedi wrote: > afaik this isn't blocked on operations, see https://phabricator....
[15:58:09] <Steinsplitter>	 sorry, but Bartosz Dziewoński reply on the mailinglist is trolling. it let looks volonteers like... i don't know. absolutely not okwy.  
[15:58:16] <Steinsplitter>	 just want to bring this to your attention
[15:58:18] <marktraceur>	 Steinsplitter: MatmaRex is also here.
[15:58:19] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: What?
[15:58:38] <marktraceur>	 And I applaud his response, it was an accurate analysis of what that page looks like right now
[15:58:40] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: Please do not accuse colleagues, volunteers or staff, of trolling without foundation.
[15:58:58] <Steinsplitter>	 i give you a link (sec). i stand by my comment above.
[15:59:11] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: If you wish to badmouth people and be rude, there are plenty of other IRC channels.
[15:59:46] <Steinsplitter>	 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015-September/083227.html
[16:00:12] <marktraceur>	 Steinsplitter: Yes, that's the email I was thinking of
[16:00:26] <marktraceur>	 It's perfectly accurate and not (in my opinion) unjust
[16:00:38] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: I see no 'trolling', merely factual statements. Please withdraw your accusation.
[16:00:38] <Steinsplitter>	 there are hunderts of open bugs, he just picked out a few bad reported
[16:00:51] <MatmaRex>	 hi.
[16:01:24] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: There are 261, and the link you need is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/RIm8X0shEhVg/#R
[16:01:42] <MatmaRex>	 hmm?
[16:01:50] <MatmaRex>	 i did not pick out any badly reported bugs?
[16:01:55] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: A comment on a page on Commons is not a bug report. Who is doing the work of turning them into bug reports, filing them on Phabricator?
[16:01:58] <MatmaRex>	 at the feedback page, i just looked at the most recent ten.
[16:03:05] <Steinsplitter>	 James_F: Maybe it was the wrong word, i agree. But the reply was I.M.H.O. net helpful at all. 
[16:03:11] <MatmaRex>	 previous ones don't look much better. 40 is german too, so is 39; 38 is… portuguese? 38 is a perennial proposal that you guys at Commons yourself declined.
[16:03:15] <MatmaRex>	 37*
[16:03:29] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: I proposed turning off the feedback link as it's clearly not being tended to by the community. Do you agree?
[16:03:32] <MatmaRex>	 Steinsplitter: how am i meant to help?
[16:03:38] <MatmaRex>	 i'm seriously asking
[16:03:50] <MatmaRex>	 since nothing we do seems to make you happy
[16:04:14] <Steinsplitter>	 James_F: It would be helpful to redirect the community directly to phab. :)
[16:04:32] <MatmaRex>	 Steinsplitter: by the way, can you respond to my questions on the bugs you filed recently?
[16:04:45] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: Sure, we can turn it into a Phabricator link. Do you think that's enough?
[16:04:58] <Steinsplitter>	 MatmaRex: not ture. i thanked the wmf ans pecific staffers a lot of time.
[16:05:00] <Steinsplitter>	 *s
[16:05:14] <Steinsplitter>	 James_F: i think so yes.
[16:05:19] <James_F>	 OK, let's do that.
[16:05:26] <marktraceur>	 I'll change the task.
[16:06:13] <MatmaRex>	 eh. phabricator reports in different languages tend to be closed immediately, which is not very helpful and not very pleasant to their reporters :/
[16:06:15] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Change feedback link in UploadWizard to a link to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112663#1641854 (10MarkTraceur)
[16:06:22] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1641857 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW
[16:06:40] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Better to get the feedback of being closed than being unanswered forever.
[16:06:49] <Steinsplitter>	 that is true.
[16:06:53] <James_F>	 marktraceur: …
[16:07:06] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Change feedback link in UploadWizard to a link to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112663#1641868 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:07:09] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1641869 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:07:13] <marktraceur>	 Bloody hell James_F :P
[16:07:20] <Steinsplitter>	 Don't get my wrong. I have nothing against you all :P  Just some thoughs.  And i am sorry, used the t word too fast ;o   
[16:07:22] <James_F>	 marktraceur: More specific wins over earlier number in this rare case :-)
[16:07:28] <James_F>	 Steinsplitter: No worries. :-)
[16:08:06] <MatmaRex>	 it's fine
[16:12:00] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Tarball-Backports, and 7 others: InstantCommons broken by switch to HTTPS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102566#1641889 (10demon) >>! In T102566#1630396, @BBlack wrote: > So, now we're pending on merge of those 3 and a new sec release of...
[16:23:23] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): Step 2: Longer filenames truncated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58331#1641934 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved
[16:27:10] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1641960 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal a:3MarkTraceur
[16:28:31] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 5Patch-For-Review: Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35186#1641968 (10AdamCuerden) @Rillke   That's what's image editing programs are for. I think it's actually kind of dangerous: Each chang...
[16:35:06] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 5Patch-For-Review: Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35186#1641997 (10AdamCuerden) It rather seems like the scope of this is growing into something the community doesn't want or need, when a...
[16:37:12] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 5Patch-For-Review: Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35186#1642009 (10AdamCuerden) See  http://www.daveperrett.com/articles/2012/07/28/exif-orientation-handling-is-a-ghetto/ - it's not perfe...
[16:38:52] <James_F>	 marktraceur, MatmaRex: Is there a task to make the 'start' button in UW a drag-area?
[16:39:06] * James_F just tried to drag something into it and was surprise to navigate to file://
[16:40:56] <prtksxna>	 James_F: It works if you drag it specifically to the button, I think
[16:40:58] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: which 'start'? you should be ale to drag files to the huge green button in 'Upload'
[16:41:30] <prtksxna>	 The drop area isn't obvious https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47656, and it doesn't highlight on hover either https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47657
[16:41:36] <MatmaRex>	 but yeah, only over the button, for some reason. the whole interface should probably accept drops
[16:41:36] <James_F>	 Oh, the actual button itself?
[16:41:46] <James_F>	 I assumed the whole page would take it.
[16:42:11] <James_F>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/3808/
[16:42:13] <James_F>	 Wow…
[16:42:16] <prtksxna>	 It probably should…
[16:42:36] <James_F>	 Can we abandon that as no longer needed?
[16:43:09] <prtksxna>	 I don't feel as bad about my unmerged Hovercards patches any more :|
[16:44:37] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 5Patch-For-Review: Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35186#1642014 (10Steinsplitter) This bug is only for the rotate function itself - to replace this function with the currently broken bot....
[16:48:51] <marktraceur>	 Isn't that the oldest open patch?
[16:52:15] <James_F>	 Plausbily.
[16:52:21] <James_F>	 Also, plausibly.
[16:53:15] <marktraceur>	 Plaus Billy.
[16:53:26] <marktraceur>	 Plows Billy? {{pamphlet}}
[16:53:32] <James_F>	 Tsk.
[17:05:17] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1642061 (10Aklapper) I do not think that having just a redirect is a good idea as tasks are not the same as a support forum.   If https:/...
[17:07:50] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1642064 (10Steinsplitter) >>! In T112666#1642061, @Aklapper wrote: > A bare redirect would lead to numerous "it doesn't work" Phab ticket...
[17:08:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS30) 10Paladox: [WIP] Using VideoJS instead of Kaltura player [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212981 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[17:09:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: "Updated to the latest rc release as of today. also it fixes the volume control." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212981 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[17:21:38] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 5Patch-For-Review: Provide a well-performing API to rotate an image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35186#1642142 (10Gilles) >>! In T35186#1641997, @AdamCuerden wrote: > It rather seems like the scope of this is growing into something th...
[17:28:14] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10Wikimedia-Media-storage: Files disappear and give 404's for the full resolution - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71362#1642189 (10Tgr) This is a duplicate of T71311 I think (which has become a catch-all for all kinds of missing originals isssues where we don't know any specifics about the ca...
[17:37:34] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1642259 (10Aklapper) >>! In T112666#1642064, @Steinsplitter wrote: > But the community does not has enough skills to look deeper in any r...
[17:39:56] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1642277 (10Steinsplitter) >>! In T112666#1642259, @Aklapper wrote: >>>! In T112666#1642064, @Steinsplitter wrote: >> But the community do...
[17:40:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS31) 10Paladox: [WIP] Using VideoJS instead of Kaltura player [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212981 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[17:41:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: "Updated videojs 5 rc 85 to rc 86." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212981 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[17:53:20] <Reedy>	 gj
[18:46:32] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 10Parsoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Inaccurate audio file preview for [[en:Template:Listen]] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92740#1642579 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:55:37] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy: Disable the feedback tool from UploadWizard, replace it with a Phabricator link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112666#1642616 (10kaldari) > Makes sense. So a redirect to a how to report a bug page sounds reasonable.  Yes, that sounds like a much better idea.
[20:16:20] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TimedMediaHandler, 5Patch-For-Review: TMH considers original video asset as video/webm; codecs="vorbis, vp8", but refuses to play because it only supports video/webm; codecs="vp8, vorbis" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91431#1642883 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3...
[20:42:31] <thedj>	 brion: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112695
[20:45:12] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard: 587 file to upload, chunked upload failed at assembling state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112698#1642994 (10Inaki-LL) 3NEW
[20:52:22] <brion>	 Whee!
[21:03:28] <marktraceur>	 O.O
[21:05:41] <marktraceur>	 Sounds like a pure chunked upload bug...API bug, not UW probably
[21:06:17] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10UploadWizard: 587 file to upload, chunked upload failed at assembling state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112698#1643059 (10Inaki-LL) Re T112013 Ok, I read the answers you posted to my previous message. It seems there is no possible solution? Sorry, on the [ https://commons.wi...
[21:14:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 04-1] "I tried to trigger two dialogs (file thumbnail preview and duplicate file error) and neither of them worked." [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237689 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112117) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[21:15:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "(Also, needs manual rebase, there's a ton of conflicts but a mergetool like Meld should resolve them all.)" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237689 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112117) (owner: 10MarkTraceur)
[21:22:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove legacy JSHint options [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238605 
[21:24:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove legacy JSHint options (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238605 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[21:53:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Remove legacy JSHint options (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238605 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:28:52] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-RfCs: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90914#1643342 (10cscott) @daniel I'm technically out on parental leave, but I've been starting to return to full time work.  Maybe the next RFC meeting...
[22:34:36] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-RfCs: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90914#1643361 (10cscott) It would be nice to have some concrete proposals before this is discussed in an RFC meeting.  The above proposal (also at https...
[23:34:32] <wikibugs>	 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: duplicate link: is not HTML-linked to file page, not red and points to the wrong URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34606#1643546 (10matmarex) Currently, when one is trying to upload files which have (or had) duplicates on the wiki, you get a confusing message which looks lik...
[23:38:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Display duplicates inline rather than in a popup [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238642 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34606) 
[23:41:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Display duplicates inline rather than in a popup [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238642 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34606) 
[23:58:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Remove legacy JSHint options (031 comment) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/238605 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)