[03:39:49] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 2 others: Media upload dialog reports that file page exists, but not the file, even if the file does exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115056#1720608 (10Prtksxna) We still need to change the messages and the l... [04:04:35] hey mark, it upwizflickr won;t allow categories to be added :/ [04:04:40] marktraceur * [08:52:18] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] Add composer test entry point [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245476 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115211) (owner: 10Hashar) [08:52:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add composer test entry point [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245476 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115211) (owner: 10Hashar) [09:29:03] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnail URL with >300 characters creates 503 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115278#1720870 (10Aklapper) [09:29:13] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnail URL with >300 characters creates 503 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115278#1720875 (10Aklapper) [09:31:07] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnail URL with >300 characters creates 503 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115278#1720878 (10Aklapper) I see... so the pattern is inconsistent, because some other File: pages do create a different last part of the URL which is displayed / lin... [09:31:56] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnail URL construction inconsistent (leading to URL with >300 characters creating 503 error when accessing the "wrong" way) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115278#1720879 (10Aklapper) [11:05:03] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnail URL construction inconsistent (leading to URL with >300 characters creating 503 error when accessing the "wrong" way) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115278#1721027 (10Tgr) Duplicate of T106517 (the 501 there is a typo, or has changed since).... [11:32:38] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Thumbnail URL construction inconsistent (leading to URL with >300 characters creating 503 error when accessing the "wrong" way) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115278#1721064 (10Aklapper) [11:39:37] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Regression: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721071 (10Nemo_bis) 3NEW [12:36:04] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 2 others: Media upload dialog reports that file page exists, but not the file, even if the file does exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115056#1721233 (10matmarex) My patches 3cfcce3e2b47597382306b4d083bf361b35... [13:12:25] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 2 others: Trying to upload image under blacklisted title in the upload image dialog throws error "" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114940#1721334 (10matmarex) You get th... [14:09:04] OK, two reports of category weirdness over the weekend, I know what I'm doing today [14:09:43] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-06_(1.27.0-wmf.2): Stop form from submitting and turn validate debug mode off - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113968#1721455 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved [14:10:47] hey marktraceur [14:10:51] marktraceur: i need you to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/245867/ [14:10:55] In other news, holy gods tethering on my phone is going poorly [14:10:59] OK, I will try [14:11:46] (james okayed it yesterday) [14:14:33] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Regression: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721460 (10matmarex) The date field has always been mandatory as far back as I can remember. If you feel very strongly about it, you can switch the field to "freeform" mo... [14:15:53] MatmaRex: Review or merge? [14:16:47] marktraceur: it's reviewed and tested and whatnot, feel free to test yourself, just merge it before the branch cut :) [14:17:03] hello James_F. [14:17:12] Sold. [14:17:32] +2'd [14:19:00] Hello. [14:19:02] Also, bah, marktraceur beat me by a minute. [14:21:55] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Regression: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721472 (10matmarex) The documentation for https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Information also states that the date is required. [14:25:48] Heh [14:28:16] "just merge it before the branch cut" [14:28:24] That should be titled as the WMF development strategy [14:28:35] hey, i did not set the deadline here [14:28:59] Reedy: Sick burn [14:29:48] I think I will try to make breakfast while this website decides if it wants to load. [14:31:12] Reedy: :-) [14:32:16] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TitleBlacklist, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: Provide precise information for errors caused by title blacklist in upload image dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115260#1721499 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:32:34] Turns out it didn't want to load...ugh this is going to suck if I have to do this all day [14:33:57] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Regression: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721503 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled The decision to make this non-mandatory is a major one given how many people demanded that it be mandatory, so I'd like to s... [14:34:06] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721505 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:36:11] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 7Tracking: GIF Issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18456#1721531 (10Dbrant) [14:36:15] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721533 (10Bawolff) If its mandatory, what do you expect people to do if they dont know the answer? [14:44:07] MatmaRex, marktraceur: Oh, bugger. [14:44:23] We never did the "Add a change Tag to media uploaded through the tool" thing. [14:44:41] I didn't even create the Phab task. :-( [14:45:00] hmm. bugger indeed. [14:45:08] 6Multimedia: Add a change Tag to media uploaded through the cross-wiki upload tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115328#1721644 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW [14:45:13] How hard would it be? [14:45:25] no idea, but i can find out [14:45:33] Thank you. [14:45:40] James_F: an actual change tag? we're not doing categories or edit summaries, like in UW? [14:45:56] MatmaRex: Yes. Categories are the wrong method. [14:46:22] MatmaRex: (Tags explicitly have human-editable vs. not; categories are free-form, and UW dirties the pool.) [14:46:31] James_F: also, what should it say, exactly? i think it would be worthwhile to distinguish uploads from VE from other uploads using mw.Upload [14:46:47] (or rather, saying "Uploaded with mw.Upload" is useless to average user) [14:47:02] MatmaRex: "Tag:Cross-wiki upload"? [14:47:20] Also, not sure about VE vs. non-VE. Does it matter? It'll be the same dialog… [14:47:35] (When we implement in WE in a few days' time, right?) [14:48:02] hmm. yeah, i think "Cross-wiki upload" is better than what i had in mind [14:48:05] I think tags are hard to do from the front-end [14:48:11] And adding stuff to the dialog config for users to extend the tags would be sucky. [14:48:18] marktraceur: no more! …at least for action=edit [14:48:22] marktraceur: It's part of the API. [14:48:35] Ah, but action=upload not so easy? [14:48:37] (Yeah, thanks to awesome marktraceur.) [14:49:01] dunno. i'll find out [14:49:14] Umm. Never mind. [14:49:29] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1721667 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [14:50:08] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): The drop down for categories in Upload image dialog opens too slowly, even sometimes after moving to the next field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114945#1721669 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open... [14:50:27] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 10VisualEditor, 5OOjs-UI-next-release, 5Patch-For-Review: Non-existent categories seemingly not accepted in the category selector when uploading a file - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115010#1721671 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [14:51:27] 6Multimedia, 10Analytics-EventLogging, 10UploadWizard: Half the time, 100% of UploadWizardExceptionFlowEvent events are dropped - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113366#1721681 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:51:29] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Technical-Debt, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-06_(1.27.0-wmf.2): Remove UploadWizardExceptionFlowEvent EventLogging schema - no longer necessary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113780#1721680 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [14:51:39] 6Multimedia, 10Analytics-EventLogging, 10UploadWizard: Half the time, 100% of UploadWizardExceptionFlowEvent events are dropped - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113366#1721682 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF [14:55:43] OK, I need to get the wifi over to the new apartment, but that has not happened by today [14:56:05] Should I bother trying to do a hangout over tether, or should we just not do the standup again [14:56:38] marktraceur: you can always try audio-only. [14:56:45] or if that fails too, text-only. [14:56:54] I guess, but I'm having trouble just loading websites [14:57:03] I blame the particular websites in part [14:57:19] But I definitely blame T-Mobile for the most part. [14:57:39] I'll call Comcast and have them transfer my service tomorrow. [14:57:49] depends on how much in the middle of nowhere you live. i wouldn't even try hangouts while tethering myself, not sure what kind of connection you get. :P [14:58:22] marktraceur: We can just do it on IRC? [14:58:28] I'm almost exactly in between St. Paul and Minneapolis [14:58:36] On the fourth floor of my building [14:58:36] James_F: so… at a cursory glance, adding tags to uploads is not as easy as adding them to regular edits. [14:58:45] MatmaRex: Boo. [14:59:52] (03CR) 10Paladox: "I am not sure how to do this as in auto, I only know this as in if we update manually but that could take a while." [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245476 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115211) (owner: 10Hashar) [14:59:53] Like, I can use my phone to watch Netflix, comfortably [15:00:10] But I tried to tether and watch Netflix yesterday, and it was like...2 seconds, then buffer for a minute. [15:01:17] James_F: not something i would want to try implementing just before we deploy. i think we should go with categories/edit-summaries for now. [15:01:39] MatmaRex: I'd rather we went with nothing than went with an option and changed it after a week. [15:01:55] well, we can go with them permanently too. :P [15:02:00] No. :-) [15:04:11] James_F: we definitely do want a method to track these uploads, both for ourselves to see if people use it, and for Commons people to raise hell if they use it wrong [15:04:22] :-( [15:04:34] MatmaRex: How about you write today and we back-port before it's used? ;-( [15:04:39] * James_F sighs. [15:05:18] James_F: for ourselves, we could just use the field edit summary. like UW puts in "User created page with UploadWizard". they're not exactly easy to query for, but we're badasses, so we'll manage [15:05:37] * marktraceur poses all badass [15:05:48] (we should probably put something in that field anyway) [15:06:03] Pretty sure mw.Upload has support for that. [15:06:24] Or at least mw.FU. [15:06:40] hm, yeah, it does. so that's easy at least. [15:06:51] MatmaRex: Edit summary and tag would be fine. [15:07:00] MatmaRex: Edit summary now, tag next week? [15:07:30] i would add a category too, but if we at least have *some* way, the sky shouldn't fall. [15:07:33] "easy" now there's a word we haven't heard in a while... [15:07:37] * James_F nods. [15:07:40] marktraceur: :-) [15:07:57] marktraceur: The phrase is "in a long time", with a wistful look. [15:08:14] James_F: No offense to Commons, but do they really need another way/reason to raise hell [15:08:29] marktraceur: … no? [15:08:47] oh. also, i noticed [15:09:06] we should probably use {{own}} in the "source" field, not repeat author's name. [15:09:24] MatmaRex: Oh, good spot. [15:09:43] Ooh, yeah. [15:09:50] and… it doesn't seem like we're really adding a license template? [15:09:53] http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=File:Matmarex-test-image.png&action=edit looks generally lackluster [15:10:12] I guess I should make the requisite observation that we're putting more Commons stuff into core. [15:10:21] And continue to support the decision to do so anyway [15:10:24] MatmaRex: Eurgh. Yeah. [15:10:42] MatmaRex: But that was a week ago; that bit's fixed now, right? [15:11:21] no idea. i didn't fix it myself, at least :P [15:11:33] Yay for Beta Cluster being down. [15:11:35] there's a ForeignStructuredUpload.prototype.getLicense() method which is just a placeholder [15:11:56] Meh. [15:12:00] I think I assumed that we would keep subclassing. [15:12:02] so presumably we thought about not adding commons stuff into core [15:12:07] Yeah. [15:12:20] Sorry, I thought I'd checked this and it was fine. [15:12:24] Do a quick fix? [15:13:04] I can do that one. [15:13:13] Oh, no I can't, MediaWiki is still updating. [15:13:16] I can merge things. [15:13:27] So. [15:13:29] Licence. [15:13:31] {{own}} [15:13:34] Edit summary [15:13:36] What else? [15:13:36] marktraceur: for {{own}}, i think we should make this a i18n message. default is "Own work", Commons overrides to {{own}} [15:13:45] MatmaRex: WFM. [15:13:48] Sounds good to me, yeah [15:14:01] MatmaRex: Wait. Will we use Commons's text? [15:14:08] MatmaRex: Won't the code be on a different wiki? [15:14:16] (Running on.) [15:14:24] eeh. yeah [15:14:24] MatmaRex: Wait, we already assume {{information}}, surely we can assume {{own}} [15:14:35] we can if we want to [15:14:38] So upload from frwiki it'll say "propre travail". [15:14:45] Just do it. [15:15:02] yeah, whatever. {{own}} it is [15:15:08] * MatmaRex grumbles at cross-wiki stuff [15:15:23] It's hard because nobody wants to deal with it. [15:15:25] Because it's hard. [15:15:36] But we're better than it. :-) [15:15:49] ok, let's do it. i'll submit the patches in a minute [15:16:02] Hmm. [15:16:29] * James_F ponders waiting an hour or two for this code to be in prod to use it to upload the Editing department's slides… [15:16:34] Maybe not. [15:19:33] the right license template is "{{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}}"? [15:19:49] I believe so [15:20:36] 3.0 [15:20:44] Oh? [15:20:49] Commons hasn't switched default yet, I'm pretty sure. [15:20:55] Waiting for WMF to do so, or something. [15:21:11] James_F: the fluff in the dialog message says 4.0 right now. [15:21:18] MatmaRex: In that case, 4.0. :-) [15:21:23] "I attest that I own the copyright on this file, and agree to irrevocably release this file to Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 license, and I agree to the Terms of Use." [15:21:59] Pretty sure slaporte sent us 4.0. [15:22:52] I guess prtksxna told slaporte we preferred 4.0 over 3.0, maybe I gave him that impression, I don't know, but damn it, we're in it now [15:22:57] Might as well finish it [15:24:02] Yeah. [15:24:58] marktraceur: slaporte suggested 4.0 and we went with it [15:25:00] Also, hi o/ [15:25:03] Hi hi [15:25:13] prtksxna: We're doing the standup in here because I'm crippled [15:25:33] I think tomorrow I will wake up better and get out to my old apartment instead of trying to stay here. [15:25:37] Sucky day for me, had to go to the stupid police station to get some stupid verification of my stupid rent agreement. Didn't happen :( [15:25:44] Oh noes [15:25:56] That's a lot of stupid for one day, you'd better sit down [15:26:16] marktraceur: I read. Glad tethering is better than that in India, I've done quite a few video meetings over 3G :D [15:26:28] Yeah, that wouldn't go so hot [15:26:37] If I turned off tethering and used the phone for the hangout it might be OK [15:26:42] But it'd be echo-y maybe [15:27:40] James_F: marktraceur: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245901 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245902 for {{own}} and license [15:28:07] MatmaRex: Done. [15:28:41] Today we get to blame the sitewide JS errors on James_F. :P [15:28:45] MatmaRex: Need help on the Edit summary? [15:28:50] marktraceur: Always. :-) [15:29:08] James_F: yes, thinking about the wording. "Cross-wiki upload from xx.wikixedia.org"? [15:29:18] MatmaRex: That'd be good. [15:29:25] (or just "Cross-wiki upload"?) [15:29:59] It might be nice to have the origin. [15:30:14] MatmaRex: Origin helps go to their talk page that they see and shout at them. [15:30:25] MatmaRex: Cross-wiki notifications will make that moot. Eventually. [15:30:29] But for now… [15:30:49] How long have we been talking about cross-wiki notifications [15:31:01] Lego's actually working on it now. [15:31:10] Oh, so it'll be done like next week [15:31:11] Super [15:31:20] * James_F grins. [15:31:23] Maybe not. [15:31:34] IIRC there are four distinct schema changes needed. [15:32:42] Hm. [15:32:49] Well, that's fine. [15:33:06] Oh, wait! Maybe I can have usable wifi on the laptop at least. [15:33:36] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 7Easy, 5Patch-For-Review: "Remove" button for individual files in the upload step should be a OOjs UI button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114222#1721855 (10Prtksxna) a:3Prtksxna [15:34:16] THERE WE GO [15:34:21] xfinitywifi to the rescue [15:34:34] Still not convinced it will be awesome for a hangout, but at least it's not tethering. [15:36:16] prtksxna: Anything else to report, now that it's actually standup time? [15:36:33] Also, anything needed from me that isn't tracking down category weirdness in UploadWizard? [15:36:47] marktraceur: Woo-hoo. [15:36:53] marktraceur: There is a simple enough oojs-ui-fication patch pending review for UW [15:36:57] marktraceur: Merge of code in a hurry if there's an issue? [15:37:04] James_F: Always [15:37:09] :-) [15:37:11] prtksxna: Noted, will look [15:37:36] James_F marktraceur: Any plans to plan? [15:37:53] James_F: and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245916 [15:38:16] I haven't plans to plan a plan yet. [15:38:25] 6Multimedia, 5Patch-For-Review: Add a change Tag to media uploaded through the cross-wiki upload tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115328#1721874 (10matmarex) Adding change tags to uploads looks like a mess, so let's have an edit summary at least for now. [15:38:29] Presumably James_F is thinking about it now that QR week is over [15:38:38] Yes. [15:38:41] We should chat. [15:39:05] Could we do the "standup" for an hour tomorrow, starting half an hour earlier? [15:39:13] +1 [15:39:16] +1 [15:39:20] I will be reporting from my old apartment [15:39:28] Which still has wifi. [15:39:28] MatmaRex: Does that timing work for you? [15:39:32] * James_F grins. [15:39:58] James_F: yeah, sounds good [15:40:03] OK. [15:41:13] marktraceur: Please delete the conflicting KIT. [15:41:27] Righto [15:41:43] We will be entirely without direction tomorrow [15:41:45] Pure chaos [15:41:50] Indeed. [15:42:15] I didn't update you. You are all here. [15:43:11] http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=File:Matmarex-test-image2.png&action=edit that looks better. [15:43:46] Woo. [15:49:56] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 3 others: Non-existent categories seemingly not accepted in the category selector when uploading a file - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115010#1721947 (10matmarex) @Henry_Salome The fix will be deployed to Commons tomorrow, per h... [15:50:45] what is with jenkins today [15:51:22] Oy. [15:51:43] 08:42 Patch Set 2: -Verified Starting gate-and-submit jobs. [15:51:43] 08:50 Patch Set 1: Verified-1 Gate pipeline build failed. [15:51:50] Slow as mud. [15:51:50] eh, trailing whitespace [15:51:57] * MatmaRex grumbles [15:52:04] MatmaRex: I've already fixed it in PS2. [15:52:20] MatmaRex: But it was still cranking through PS1's G&S pipe for some reason. [15:52:27] D: [15:52:50] uploading a new PS used to abort jobs. [15:54:41] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 04-1] "Some style issues but maybe debatable." (036 comments) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/244668 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114222) (owner: 10Prtksxna) [15:57:55] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 5Patch-For-Review: Add a change Tag to media uploaded through the cross-wiki upload tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115328#1721965 (10matmarex) [16:16:23] 6Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): Add a change Tag to media uploaded through the cross-wiki upload tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115328#1722020 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:50:00] OK, cable mess is sorted out, I will have wifi tomorrow afternoon [16:50:08] Until then I'll deal with the shittiness [16:50:22] Hurrah. [16:50:42] marktraceur: Tomorrow-for-meeting or tomorrow-and-clashes-with-meeting-so-will-need-to-reschedule? [16:53:14] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Uploaded with UploadWizard category added twice on all uploads - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115354#1722141 (10MarkTraceur) 3NEW a:3MarkTraceur [16:55:35] Uhhh [16:55:56] James_F: I have a meeting with TrevorP|Away this afternoon, I will gauge how bad the hangout is [16:56:02] marktraceur: Kk. [16:56:03] If it's really bad I will attempt to use my phone [16:56:12] And if that's still awful then I will reschedule all the things. [16:56:49] Oh FFS [16:57:22] James_F: We add "Uploaded with UploadWizard" in two ways - once for trackingCategories.all and once for autoAdd.categories [16:57:31] marktraceur: Of course we do. [16:57:37] marktraceur: Because cleanup. [16:57:40] The former is a default in the software, the latter is specially configured for WMF cluster. [16:57:48] Which should be axed? [16:58:05] I'm leaning towards the former. [16:58:21] Yeah. [16:58:26] K, doing. [16:59:13] I'm going to foolishly leave the un-internationalised "Uploaded via Campaign:$1" string there, since it's not a duplicate. [17:12:46] (03PS1) 10MarkTraceur: Remove default category for UploadWizard files [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245948 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115354) [17:13:52] OK, I'm going to run and get my router and modem so I don't need to do that tomorrow. [17:14:02] And because it's hopefully not rush hour still. [17:14:02] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove default category for UploadWizard files [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245948 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115354) (owner: 10MarkTraceur) [17:14:07] Oh never mind [17:14:18] Uppity son of a bitch [17:15:01] (03PS2) 10MarkTraceur: Remove default category for UploadWizard files [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245948 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115354) [17:15:02] What a dumb error [17:26:44] 6Multimedia, 6Phabricator: Migration of Multimedia to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T827#1722400 (10doctaxon) [17:42:49] marktraceur: How much of `git log --oneline --no-merges origin/REL1_26..origin/master resources/src/mediawiki/mediawiki.*Upload*.js` do you think we should backport? All of it? [17:54:08] James_F: yes, and maybe a few other things. there were changes to mw/api/upload.js, and release notes. [17:54:18] * James_F nods. [17:54:28] or possibly we could revert whatever made it into 1.26 and we've made breaking changes to since. [17:54:40] That might make more sense. [17:54:52] i'm actually not sure at which point 1.26 was cut. [17:55:00] Though given that 1.26 is not even in RC yet… [17:55:17] REL1_26 was cut from 1.26wmf24. [18:10:01] MatmaRex: I'd slightly prefer getting this into REL1_26 rather than backing out. [18:10:20] MatmaRex: If nothing else, so that VE master is compatible with 1.26.0 when it's finally released. [18:11:01] James_F: let's also make sure REL1_26 of VE is compatible with REL1_26 of core ;) [18:11:42] MatmaRex: That's less of a worry. :-) [18:30:17] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 7user-notice: VisualEditor: Initiate file upload by drag-and-drop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40031#1722689 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [18:32:37] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 3 others: Non-existent categories seemingly not accepted in the category selector when uploading a file - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115010#1722702 (10Henry_Salome) @matmarex Well, right now, I've no images to upload. It seems... [18:37:37] James_F: I agree, all of it sounds like a good answer t ome [18:37:38] to me. [18:37:43] Kk [18:37:53] Someone want to write a mega-patch. [18:41:49] i probably could? [18:42:17] James_F: it's just `git log ...` and pass the sha1s to `git cherry-pick`, isn't it? [18:42:34] MatmaRex: Yes, plus checking it all works. :-) [18:42:35] when it cherry-picks cleanly, you know you've got all the important patches :P [18:42:42] * James_F grins. [18:43:39] or you could start from everything prateek, mark and i committed recently, and then remove the things that are positively unrelated [18:46:51] Ha. [19:10:02] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: Commons' TitleBlacklist messages are messy and not parseable by jqueryMsg - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115259#1722779 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:27:58] (03CR) 10Paladox: "recheck" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229470 (owner: 10Paladox) [19:28:43] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 3 others: Trying to upload image under blacklisted title in the upload image dialog throws error "" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114940#1722869 (10Ryasmeen) [19:31:42] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 2 others: Trying to upload image under blacklisted title in the upload image dialog throws error "" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114940#1722886 (10Ryasmeen) [19:32:53] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, 7Verified, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): The checkbox for "This is my own work" remains selected for the next time user tries to upload an image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114936#1722889 (10Ryasmeen) [19:36:31] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, 7Verified, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): The date-picker in Upload image dialog does not close after selecting a date, requires clicking somewhere else to close it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114942#1722896 (10Ryasmeen) [19:37:06] 6Multimedia, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, 5Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: The drop down for categories in Upload image dialog opens too slowly, even sometimes after moving to the next field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114945#1722897 (10Ryasmeen) [19:50:52] (03CR) 10TheDJ: "reported where ?" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/244826 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91431) (owner: 10Paladox) [19:53:37] (03CR) 10Paladox: "Here https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Sk1fc3ocumjg3u6o&topic_showPostId=sk1fc3qe4hsxhu3b#flow-post-sk1fc3qe4hsxhu3b" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/244826 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91431) (owner: 10Paladox) [20:11:08] James_F: you're not working on the 1.26 cherry-pick, right? because i am [20:12:57] Correct. [20:13:03] I'm doing OOUI release [20:29:14] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Upload Videos from Internet Archive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77278#1723149 (10Sadads) [20:29:53] MatmaRex, prtksxna, do either of you have opinions on non-destructive image editing that are burning you up inside? [20:30:01] I would love to hear them. [20:30:29] Also James_F [20:30:36] I'm in favour. [20:30:44] * James_F drops the mic. [20:30:47] Though I believe I am pretty much in line with James_F on how that should look [20:30:50] Well fine then :P [20:31:05] I'm mostly thinking, how should it be implemented [20:31:05] * James_F grins. [20:31:32] My first theory was Python but then I thought gee, we could prrrrobably shell stuff out into C or C++ if we really wanted to [20:31:52] Node. [20:31:54] And also how does it look to the end user - [[File:]] arguments that are "special"? [20:32:15] James_F: I have not attempted to manipulate images in Node but somehow I feel like it might not be as robust as PIL. [20:32:20] Do it server-side in Node, and client-side in node for users that can (e.g. zoomable SVGs). [20:32:27] Or libimagemagick++ or whatever it is [20:32:39] marktraceur: TrevorParscal wrote some POC stuff two years ago that does this. [20:32:46] Yeah, he showed me [20:33:00] Doing it in Python means YetAnotherServiceLanguage to support. [20:33:22] marktraceur: {{#file:}} arguments which are new is what I was thinking. [20:33:32] I thought the glorious future of SOA was supposed to make it possible to use different languages where they are useful [20:33:41] marktraceur: Shelling out is a bit meh for third parties. [20:33:59] And yes, SOA /lets/ us use random languages, but it still needs a human to support it. :-) [20:34:02] I believe the SOA slogan is "third parties can suck it" but I haven't been to those meetings in a while. :P [20:34:12] Wherever will we find a human who can write Python [20:46:24] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 10VisualEditor, 5MW-1.27-release-notes, and 3 others: Non-existent categories seemingly not accepted in the category selector when uploading a file - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115010#1723235 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:49:56] 6Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: UploadWizard enforces mandatory creation date field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115318#1723265 (10Nemo_bis) 5stalled>3Open [20:52:35] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MarkTraceur/More_general_frontend_uploading_tools gj past mark [20:53:47] :-) [21:00:04] (03PS3) 10MarkTraceur: Remove hacky UtilitiesTime library [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/244474 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114219) [21:00:28] "But: T114219" less gj past mark [21:00:47] Whoa, did people using the VE bouncer get K-Lined? Holy crap [21:01:30] heh [21:02:34] freenode people like throwing *really* wide bans [21:25:30] marktraceur: merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/246094/ for me? [21:26:55] Merge or review [21:30:28] both? [21:30:39] AOK :) [21:30:59] Gonna do a quick grep. [21:31:42] Also, the hangout test with Trevor went well, so we are a Go for the meeting tomorrow. [22:01:43] (03CR) 10MarkTraceur: [C: 04-1] Add link to alternative upload methods in #contentSub (032 comments) [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/226038 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104009) (owner: 10Prtksxna) [22:09:57] (03PS1) 10Paladox: Update package.json [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246105 [22:11:07] (03CR) 10Legoktm: "Why is the config not in extension.json? The callback is (or would be) useless as ExtensionRegistry does that internally." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187735 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87943) (owner: 10Gilles) [22:14:13] (03CR) 10Paladox: "Not sure. I moved it to hooks because extension.json dosent support if or else code." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187735 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87943) (owner: 10Gilles) [22:16:50] (03CR) 10Legoktm: "Those conditionals aren't necessary anymore. Just include the default values in extension.json." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187735 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87943) (owner: 10Gilles) [22:19:23] (03CR) 10Paladox: "Ok, I am not sure what the default values are for the configs." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187735 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87943) (owner: 10Gilles) [22:21:14] 6Multimedia, 10Internet-Archive, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Commons uploads: Support automatic conversion of Microsoft Office to LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org formats - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T45154#1723684 (10Sadads) [22:23:03] 6Multimedia, 6Commons, 10Internet-Archive, 10UploadWizard, 6Wikisource: Book upload customization - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49561#1723703 (10Sadads) [22:45:47] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "See T115279 (Jon linked it just above but gerrit's autolinking is buggy)." [extensions/MultimediaViewer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187735 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87943) (owner: 10Gilles)