[01:14:50] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "This is… a remarkably simple tweak. :-)" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393941 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165717) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [01:20:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Desktop native MP3 at higher priority than ogv.js Ogg [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393941 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165717) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [01:30:04] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Enable MP3 upload ingestion by default [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393974 [01:30:06] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Remove ability to disable MP3 ingestion [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393975 [01:30:41] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-2] "Not just yet. :-)" [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393975 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:40:44] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032] Enable MP3 upload ingestion by default [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393974 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:41:14] let the mp3z flow [01:42:23] do we support .midi uploads? i forget. that used to work in most browsers with default plugins, no idea what happens now [01:43:17] haha https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MIDI_files [01:43:22] chrome just downloads them [01:43:41] firefox same [01:44:04] pity [01:47:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Enable MP3 upload ingestion by default [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393974 (owner: 10Jforrester) [01:48:51] brion: If they ever sounded any good I'd care more. ;-) [01:49:07] .mod files were way cooler [01:49:15] Indeed. [01:50:36] there's always mpeg-4 structured audio https://twitter.com/chordbug/status/935631531036545024 [01:51:58] Oh dear. [01:53:06] i almost want to implement that for fun [01:53:11] brion: Also all the fancy MPEG-2 compositing controls that I don't think I've ever seen used in the wild. [01:53:12] but it's probably patented or some crap [01:56:04] Sure, but that just means don't-enable-in-prod. ;-) [01:57:22] brion: http://www.osnews.com/story/24954/US_Patent_Expiration_for_MP3_MPEG-2_H_264/ claims "2018 might be a more reasonable date for MPEG-2 becoming patent free", which is encouraging. [01:57:35] \o/ [01:58:06] there's a lot of archival mpeg-2 material it'd be nice to ingest without a mezzanine transcode [01:58:22] Yes. [01:58:55] Though I think Ops will have a heart-attack if we (e.g.) ingest a few petabytes of CSPAN coverage of congress in MPEG-2 format. [01:59:04] haha [03:19:21] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [WIP] QuickTime MJPEG/MP3 240p video fallback for iOS (031 comment) [extensions/TimedMediaHandler] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/380886 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716) (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [10:19:18] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: `upload_by_url` user right should be `upload-by-url` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181506#3795932 (10Aklapper) Would this also apply to `right-upload_by_url` and `action-upload_by_url` in MediaWiki core? Would this break [some] extensions using it? ``` $:acko\> grep... [10:36:40] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: `upload_by_url` user right should be `upload-by-url` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181506#3792466 (10Mainframe98) >>! In T181506#3795932, @Aklapper wrote: > Would this also apply to `right-upload_by_url` and `action-upload_by_url` in MediaWiki core? > [...] Yes, bec... [12:40:30] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management: Add support for JP2 files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161934#3796213 (10Fae) How can we heat this up? Would kicking off a Commons proposal make any difference? I'm asking as I have been sitting on completing a mass upload of highly valuable imag... [13:14:48] 10Multimedia: Duplicate warning for commonswiki's File:Logo.png to testwiki is confusing/wrong - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181622#3796302 (10matthiasmullie) [13:23:50] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading, 10Multimedia-Team-Working-Board: Same content + same filename uploads should be considered duplicated when from foreign repo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180691#3796327 (10matthiasmullie) The problem is that it will *not* error or warn. Reproduce: 1/ Download a r... [16:32:50] (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: [C: 032] Check all license metadata blocks for nonfree flag [extensions/CommonsMetadata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282142 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131896) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [16:34:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Check all license metadata blocks for nonfree flag [extensions/CommonsMetadata] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282142 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131896) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [17:08:48] cormacparle: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access wasn't as hard to find as I thought it would be [17:08:56] heh cool [17:36:29] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages, 10Easy: Add file hash to action=info - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181651#3797205 (10Dispenser) [17:44:25] (03CR) 10Anomie: "recheck" [extensions/UploadWizard] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/393278 (owner: 10Anomie) [17:52:00] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer: I can't see images. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180661#3797312 (10Slaiden) Dear TGR, good day. I've installed the kaspersy secure connection. As I understand this programm supports some VPN. So as soon as I opened it I'm able to see the images. Do... [18:14:14] 10Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Improve display of thimbnails of images to be uploded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154192#3797384 (10Ramsey-WMF) a:03PDrouin-WMF [18:15:22] 10Multimedia, 10UploadWizard: Improve display of thimbnails of images to be uploded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154192#2903786 (10Ramsey-WMF) p:05Triage>03Low [18:34:29] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: `upload_by_url` user right should be `upload-by-url` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181506#3797438 (10Lokal_Profil) To clarify using underscore as a space replacement does not seen to be illegal per the MediaWiki manual. It is just that this is the only case I have fo... [20:45:25] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10media-storage, and 4 others: Click on fullImageLink for PDF on File: page no longer rendering in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178849#3705027 (10Dzahn) Would it make sense to run this script automatically via a puppetized cronjob? O... [20:53:31] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10Support-and-Safety, 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-11-14 (1.31.0-wmf.8)), and 2 others: Create new "MP3 uploaders" user group on Commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180002#3798114 (10kaldari) Per discussion at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_... [20:54:14] 10Multimedia, 10UploadWizard, 10Technical-Debt: Accept file objects in a new wizard initiation method - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99543#3798121 (10Ramsey-WMF) 05Open>03declined No longer relevant. [21:21:16] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10media-storage, and 4 others: Click on fullImageLink for PDF on File: page no longer rendering in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178849#3798249 (10Gilles) We only want this to run once. I've never felt the need to automate this sort o... [21:32:02] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages, 10Easy: Add file hash to action=info - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181651#3797130 (10Tgr) Could be a #google-code-in-2017 task probably. [21:35:01] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-Uploading: `upload_by_url` user right should be `upload-by-url` - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181506#3792466 (10Tgr) It would break all extensions not in gerrit that use it (we would probably update the ones in gerrit), it would break all sites which add this right somewhere in... [21:35:32] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10media-storage, and 4 others: Click on fullImageLink for PDF on File: page no longer rendering in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178849#3798296 (10Dzahn) >>! In T178849#3798249, @Gilles wrote: > starting a screen and running the comma... [21:37:19] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10media-storage, and 4 others: Click on fullImageLink for PDF on File: page no longer rendering in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178849#3798297 (10Gilles) It usually takes days, yes. Would leaving a message in the SAL be enough warning? [21:46:40] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10media-storage, and 4 others: Click on fullImageLink for PDF on File: page no longer rendering in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178849#3798318 (10Tgr) IIRC @jcrespo asked that long-running scripts using the DB be mentioned on the [[h... [21:56:34] 10Multimedia, 10Commons, 10MediaWiki-File-management, 10media-storage, and 4 others: Click on fullImageLink for PDF on File: page no longer rendering in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178849#3798356 (10Gilles) I think the bottleneck here is Swift being written to, the DB queries being rea... [22:04:06] brion: it seems that the filename extensions .wav, .flac, .webm, etc. are allowed by Commons, but none of those are listed in InitializeSettings, CommonSetttings, DefaultSettings. Any idea where those were actually added? [22:04:26] kaldari: the default set will be in TimedMediaHandler, lemme pull up the var [22:05:04] Ah, I see: $wgTmhFileExtensions [22:05:21] yeah there's $wgTmhFileExtensions and then it goes through those and adds them in setup to $wgFileExtensions [22:05:33] mp4 and mp3 are excluded depending on the separate settings [22:07:38] got it, so really all we need to do to enable mp3 uploading is set $wgTmhEnableMp3Uploads to true on Commons and not mess with wgFileExtensions or wmgFileExtensions [22:07:47] kaldari: exactly [22:08:22] i think we switched the default for mp3 on in TMH but there should be an explicit use of the setting in CommonSettings as well (so said James_F) [22:08:26] not confusing at all ;) [22:08:28] haha [22:08:36] i hope to improve the usability of that too ;) [22:09:37] No, you want wmgTmhEnableMp3Uploads specifically. [22:10:09] in InitialiseSettings then [22:10:17] oh yeah, that's what I meant :) [22:10:38] so it's only affecting Commons [22:11:00] excellent [22:11:17] (and that will still allow .mp3 files from commons to be used, it just controls where you can upload them ) [22:11:47] Though eventually we'll want to allow MP3 files on any wiki that allows uploads. [22:11:54] How does James_F simultaneously hold conversations on IRC and in real life? [22:12:18] kaldari: With some difficulty. ;-) [22:12:31] And a whole bunch of practice. [23:36:13] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer: I can't see images. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180661#3798630 (10Tgr) Probably that Kaspersky is intercepting your connection now and it does it in a non-broken way? You can inspect the certificates in your browser to verify. The old interception... [23:38:15] 10Multimedia, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer: I can't see images. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180661#3798635 (10Tgr) (Or something else entirely... I'm not exactly an expert. Someone from #traffic or #security-team might have a better idea.