[15:28:04] FYI, this just got posted in the news http://www.examiner.com/article/wikimedia-foundation-s-oliver-keyes-stripped-of-administrator-status [15:33:26] http://enwp.org/User:Technical_13 OMG [15:33:36] healt isuisse o_O [15:33:51] no... no... wrong channel... sorry [16:24:52] How does the WMF continue to employ Oliver Keyes after being desysopped, nearly banned, and bringing the WMF/Wikipedia into horrific disrepute? [16:27:06] !ops twotwothree [16:27:18] I am not an op here. [16:28:15] twotwothree: He's not asking if you're an op [16:28:22] Oh [16:29:08] When are the office hourse here? [16:29:16] And who staffs them? [16:29:18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours [16:29:28] Next one in nine days [16:29:36] Ooh, with my team [16:29:46] Exciting, but not really related to your question [16:29:55] Oh that's fuine. [16:29:58] *fine [16:30:40] Oh, I mean, the office hour in nine days is about the multimedia team and what we should be working on, not about Ironholds [16:30:55] That sounds interesting. [16:31:08] One of the biggest issues is using the OGG format, I think. It doesn't convert well. [16:31:42] twotwothree: We have plans to license other formats, but up 'til now we've had some pretty major legal and philosophical issues with using non-free ones [16:32:21] I agree and it's important. I mostly mean converting from the non-free ones to OGG. It's difficult and doesn't convert well. [16:32:34] Really? [16:32:50] marktraceur: yes, can i share some examples? [16:32:52] I've had OK success with it, but I guess there's a need for a good conversion software [16:33:13] I'm not really up for debugging someone else's software right now, trying to recover from jet lag :) [16:33:34] I hope you'll join us for the office hour, though, on the 22nd! [16:33:41] I will try to make it. [16:33:47] We'll all be in the San Francisco offices and it should be a good time [16:34:28] what happened to the offices in Florida? [16:34:33] (I mean, the team will be - the office hour will be in here) [16:34:49] twotwothree: I'm not sure why they decided to move, but that happened in like 2007 [16:34:58] * twotwothree is far behind the times [16:35:05] isn't rent in SF far more expensive than in Florida? [16:35:21] I'm not sure - I wouldn't be surprised, but there's a reason it is [16:35:41] I heard about a company that moved to Utah simply because the overhead was so low there. [16:35:41] And we decided the benefits outweighed the costs, I guess (I'm an engineer, not an accountant :) ) [16:36:58] I understand. [16:38:08] Well thank you for your time. [16:38:16] I hope your jetlag resolves quickly. [16:39:41] And I sincerely hope that the WMF quickly terminates Oliver Keyes from their employment. He is a horrific misogynist who brings the WMF and Wikipedia into disrepute. His continued employment in whatever capacity of the WMF is a source of great and unending shame. [16:40:08] I was wondering how long it'd take for his real agenda to come out. [16:40:13] Three seconds before leaving the channel, it seems. [16:41:09] Technical_13: I believe all non-WMF'ers have been removed as ops, so nothing we can do [16:42:52] Nutmore: Why does somwone want Keys Terminated? [16:43:18] Qcoder00: The recent arbcom case caused some waves [16:43:20] I'm not seening other than 'banter' what the issue here is , unless someone definitly want's him out the way. [16:43:56] And 'hounding' someone for Wiki related actions, isn't the Wiki way [16:44:27] I expect him back to trouble your meeting in nine days marktraceur [16:45:19] Technical_13: I'll keep an eye out for it :) [16:45:42] It is also noted in the Arbcom evidence that KW made some references to Ironholds becoming unemployed - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AIronholds&diff=565226059&oldid=565216502 [16:46:56] Whilst unlikley, 'consquences' such as getting people fired, are something that could be borne in mind by the parties to a dispute [16:47:56] Qcoder00: Yeah, but there's a difference between that being a consequence and the WMF directly considering as a result of the arbcom case [16:48:32] marktraceur: Noted [22:57:02] * SigmaWP pat pats Ironholds