[20:05:19] Ironholds: ping [21:17:41] halfak, pong [21:17:50] sorry, dario's laptop died :( [21:18:13] No worries. He just came back to his desk and picked up again from there. [21:18:35] I'm working right now to do the forecasting approach to figuring out if the diff in Sept. is likely to be read. [21:18:37] *real [22:12:38] halfak, are you guys still around? [22:13:05] Sorry. Had to run to checkin. I'm still working on the timeseries for single wikis. [22:13:16] Erik called it a night. [22:14:19] ok cool, ping me if you want to reconnect when you're done [22:33:49] halfak: copied the complete enwiki series going back to 2001 here: /home/ezachte/tmp/dario/enwiki_tae_complete.csv [22:34:35] kk. I have enwiki, dutch and german ready for timeseries here: /home/halfak/data/temp [22:34:49] 4k each [22:36:45] sweet [22:42:47] OK. So none of the three are outside the 95% confidence. [22:42:52] Plots coming soon. [22:42:56] DarTar: ^^^ [22:43:19] let me try and find Howie to see what other wikis we may want to look at [22:43:32] brb [22:43:41] kk [22:44:19] hmm, he's not around at the moment [22:44:49] so did we agree that we're going to truncate the series and use only post-2007 data in the plots? [22:45:18] I was under the impression that this didn't make sense. [22:45:26] I thought Erik was too. [22:45:33] At least for the forecast. [22:46:51] ok I thought we were agreeing on the opposite, I thought his point was that long-term seasonal patterns at a time where only enwiki was around would bias the forecast for recent years [22:47:06] we can test if that's the case anyway [22:47:44] If that were true, we'd see the error (last component) rising after the decline period started. We don't. [22:47:49] the separate question is if – for presentation purposes only – we only want to plot the post-2007 range, which I assume is less controversial [22:48:19] Is the active editors plot controversial? [22:48:43] hmm I haven't got the full plots yet, but yes that's what we should be seeing [22:49:02] no, [22:49:40] Tryign to put the plots on office wiki now. [22:50:49] for the presentation we can decide to either present the full "editor decline" series or just the tail, and I suggested we zoom in on the linear decline phase, but I don't feel strongly either way, not until seeing the plots anyway, maybe I'm worrying about nothing [22:52:11] That's OK with me. See https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ahalfaker/Work_log#Wednesday.2C_Oct._30th in the meantime. [22:58:42] DarTar: Plots zoomed. [23:03:52] k hang on [23:46:06] hi folks [23:49:05] hello [23:50:14] hello [23:50:29] Hi Chad! [23:50:33] Great to see you in here! [23:50:37] * chad opens the door to the office and walks in [23:50:41] :) [23:50:45] thank you [23:50:49] I think we'll have some other folks joining in about 10 [23:50:53] congrats [23:50:56] oh, thanks! [23:51:01] I just saw that note today! [23:51:13] the noticeboard gets a little crazy…sometimes it's hard to follow all comments :) [23:51:25] * nods and smiles [23:51:33] I'm a lurker [23:51:35] which is partially why we set up this office hour. Hopefully we can do another few over the next few weeks (with more notice) [23:52:00] haha I think a lot of people are. It's amazing how many people I'll speak to, and they'll say they've been lurking but don't feel like they should comment [23:52:02] it's interesting [23:52:04] i keep up with what is going on [23:52:05] how's your class going? [23:52:39] they are busy tonight! i made the deadline before halloween [23:52:58] ah, I'm sure they loved that! At least it's not *on* halloween [23:53:03] kind of you [23:53:12] hopefully no goblins will eat their assignments up [23:53:40] I always learn so much about murdered journalists when following your students. have you done the photography class on wikipedia before? [23:54:22] 23 November is end to impunity day [23:54:35] we would like to have them up by then! [23:54:41] and before thanksgiving [23:55:04] could be a lead if you want to publicize them [23:55:13] oh interesting [23:55:23] this is the first for photography [23:55:28] you could always write up a blog post about it that we could feature! [23:56:03] yeah i could point to some of the relevant articles in Wikipedia as well ours for impunity [23:56:39] hi everybody [23:57:13] hi everybody [23:57:19] I'm not very used to IRC [23:57:25] hi north americans! [23:57:31] lol [23:57:42] * waves [23:58:14] Pharos are you from Egypt? [23:58:16] Pharos, is that because of the timing? :) [23:58:24] hi south americans! [23:58:50] and west antarcticans! [23:59:01] * peaks down SOUTH [23:59:20] (to cover the whole hemisphere :) ) [23:59:23] hi brazilians [23:59:57] I am philosophically from Egypt