[17:28:53] greg-g: still alive? [17:30:25] AaronSchulz: I think I sneezed half of my water weight out [17:31:12] haha [17:31:55] reminds me of a scene from the Simpsons where Mr Burns shrivels up after losing a drop of blood [17:33:31] AaronSchulz: haha [17:55:34] greg-g: http://wikimedia.7.x6.nabble.com/Wikimedia-l-24-TB-for-User-Dispenser-on-Tool-Labs-please-td5031319.html is pretty ugh [17:55:45] * AaronSchulz wonders wtf that guy ranting and raving on for [17:56:00] *guy is [17:56:17] AaronSchulz, inside voice ;p [17:56:27] :) [18:04:11] hey rfarrand! [18:04:22] We're back and nobody died. [18:04:42] well, except marktraceur's soul, but. [18:08:08] Ironholds: Yes because my soul was a picture of health before [18:09:00] Ironholds: Yay!!! [18:09:09] any major injuries? [18:09:16] Only to Jessica [18:09:41] Who sprained her ankle changing a tire in St. Paul [18:09:49] and the car [18:09:53] which lost a tire in St. Paul [18:10:00] also I lost a really nice knife. But we were fine other than that. [18:10:05] 3 weeks, 8,000 miles, 28 states. [18:10:14] marktraceur: how does your dead soul issue manifest itself? [18:10:33] I honestly haven't noticed anything different [18:10:35] Ironholds: least favorite state? [18:10:48] rfarrand, sad. Sad is my least favourite state. [18:10:52] But after that it'd have to be Illinois [18:10:54] Guess I wasn't using it that much [18:11:06] Oh fuck Illinois so hard. [18:11:07] I know some lovely people in Chicago, it has a great art museum, but it is a humid sweaty mess filled with people who can't drive but are allowed guns. [18:11:38] if we could just airlift keilana, mark's cousin, Aaron and the Art Institute out and put them anywhere the hell else there would be no reason to visit [18:11:46] marktraceur: helpful link i found for you https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090828143848AA9X78o [18:12:18] Ironholds: leslie harms is there now! [18:12:19] > Also, pray to God. [18:12:23] ty rfarrand [18:12:31] favourite place: either Boston or Minneapolis, for different reasons (Minneapolis has nice people and interesting academics, Boston has interesting people and nice academics) [18:12:38] althouh Northern Idaho is....the most beautiful thing. [18:12:46] best part marktraceur "Source: [18:12:46] Life" [18:12:59] rfarrand, yeah, and I think victor is too. I am glad it is a good place for them but it is not a good place for me ;p [18:13:06] rfarrand: Can we get this person on enwiki? They seem like a valuable contributor [18:13:19] marktraceur: I will leave that to you [18:13:23] > drink lots of vodka and get some LSD [18:13:26] Now we're talking [18:13:44] Ironholds: what is so beautiful about it? [18:14:08] rfarrand, big forests, lots of rolling hills, perfect weather for me (slightly chill, not too humid) [18:14:28] it reminded me of some time I spent in Germany way-back-when [18:14:51] Also not hellishly long to drive through. [18:15:06] yup. [18:15:18] It won the "is Montana more beautiful than North Dakota" contest, too [18:15:49] Possibly because I did not spend an evening in Idaho sleeping on the floor of a portakabin with hand towels as pillows. That may have biased me somewhat, I will admit. [18:16:19] marktraceur / Ironholds: did your learn any surprising facts about each other during your long drives? [18:16:43] * marktraceur thinks [18:16:48] * Ironholds thinks [18:16:57] marktraceur has an awesome family who under no circumstances should be permitted to vote. [18:17:03] and he's not a bad shot either. [18:17:04] Ahahaha [18:17:11] there's mine [18:17:42] rfarrand: Ironholds is significantly less stressed out about accomplishing things on time than either of our drivers [18:17:51] hahaha!! [18:18:01] those are both great facts, thanks [18:18:09] It is a miracle that this did not lead him to be stranded in Oklahoma [18:18:17] what did I do in Oklahoma? [18:18:26] It wasn't necessarily OK in particular [18:18:52] I thought it was OK [18:18:57] evidently you thought it was a bad thing [18:19:19] * marktraceur throws snowball at Ironholds [18:19:55] marktraceur, if there's one thing we absolutely did not see in 8,000 miles across the wide-open spaces of america [18:19:57] it's a snowball [18:19:59] anywhere here from SFO office who was present at the North Korean defector "Q&A" in February? [18:22:02] Ironholds: Wasn't there snow in like...western Montana or something [18:22:09] Really high on a mountain [18:22:24] marktraceur, we saw it from a distance. That doesn't count. [18:22:24] By that standard we also went to Canada [18:22:32] I'm not sure that's true [18:22:37] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Park_Sang_Hak_and_Kang_Chol_Hwan_at_Q%26A_with_WMF_employees,_February_21,_2014_-3.JPG there was numerous WMF staffers there by the looks -- wanting some information on this visit [18:22:58] russavia: !ask then [18:23:14] what was the purpose of this visit [18:23:17] Though I'm not sure answers are forthcoming, I don't know who was there [18:24:46] the only reference i can find to it is on the february blog which notes they were visitors -- the media on the other hand states the visit to SFO was to get assistance in lauching balloons into north korea from the south [18:25:56] the blog mentions it was a "Q&A" -- quite different to what media presents -- so wanting information on the purpose of the visit and any outcomes of it [18:30:10] in particular -- has the WMF decided to give these defectors any support in what they doing? monetary, logistical or any other type of support [18:31:17] and was the WMF (aside from Jimmy) involved in any way shape or form in the January 2014 balloon launch which dropped 1500 USB sticks with Korean Wikipedia into North Korean territory [18:36:12] it is obvious Jimmy was directly involved in the January 2014 launch -- and it's also likely he helped to facilitate this visit in February -- and given his vocal support for what these particular defectors are doing, it only indicates that he is wanting the WMF to get involved as well -- Ars Technica mentioned that they met with WMF engineers