[15:01:32] <Pine>	 Reminder: Program Evaluation and Design office hour in #wikimedia-ped
[17:19:42] <PiceaOne>	 hello
[17:20:04] <marktraceur>	 Hi, PiceaOne
[17:20:22] <marktraceur>	 What's up?
[18:41:16] <rfarrand>	 tTech Talk: The Dashboarding Problem starting in 19 min
[18:55:06] <rfarrand>	 Tech Talk: The Dashboarding Problem starts in 5 min.
[19:00:44] <rfarrand>	 welcome to the tech talk: The Dashboarding Problem. We will be starting 5 min late (in 5 min). Please ping me if you have any questions during the talk and I will be happy to ask for you.
[19:01:18] <milimetric>	 hi everyone - I'll be around while Nuria talks in case people have questions
[19:03:11] <zeljkof>	 did not start yet, right?
[19:03:21] <milimetric>	 nope
[19:03:31] <milimetric>	 we're waiting for any potential stragglers
[19:05:47] <rfarrand>	 The tech talk: The Dashboarding Problem is starting now. Please ping me if you have any questions during the talk and I will be happy to ask on the microphone for you.
[19:06:28] <rfarrand>	 please let us know when the youtube link is working
[19:06:32] <rfarrand>	 and if there are any problems with it
[19:07:03] <bd808>	 rfarrand: I keep getting "an error occurred, please try again later"
[19:08:03] * bd808 fixed by changing resolution to non-HD
[19:08:16] <rfarrand>	 bd808: ok great :)
[19:08:49] <superm401>	 Working for me now.
[19:12:26] <level11>	 a grammar on top of ... what?
[19:13:43] <superm401>	 level11, Vega is built on top of D3 (http://d3js.org/).
[19:14:00] <level11>	 thanks
[19:16:22] <milimetric>	 fun fact: vega has a python-based cousin named Vincent
[19:16:58] <ori>	 haha
[19:17:00] <ori>	 cute!
[19:19:43] <superm401>	 The server-less design is interesting.
[19:19:55] <milimetric>	 it's fun to deploy :)
[19:19:56] <milimetric>	 git pull
[19:19:59] <milimetric>	 ln -s
[19:20:59] <superm401>	 milimetric, you should puppetize that ln. ;)
[19:21:25] * level11 hopes for a sql interface, someday. I want to plot the number of reverts in the top-50 articles in Category:Gilbraltar
[19:21:43] <level11>	 (top-50 by page views)
[19:22:11] <level11>	 page views aren't even available in sql yet, so I also want a pony
[19:25:23] <level11>	 what is "really mature" in the javascript world? readable js streams only got a read() method late last year
[19:26:06] <rfarrand>	 level11: would you like me to ask for you?
[19:26:41] <level11>	 rfarrand: no, that was not important. Please ask about SQL access. How long until we can plot stats from queries?
[19:27:19] <rfarrand>	 ok
[19:27:22] <level11>	 thanks
[19:29:59] <superm401>	 That's the down side of the serverless design (no server-side favorites and such).  But it should be possible to leverage existing tools like this, anything from regular bookmarks to putting links on your (micro)blog.
[19:30:11] <ottomata>	 quarry:
[19:30:11] <ottomata>	 http://quarry.wmflabs.org/
[19:31:31] <level11>	 mmmkay
[19:32:59] <level11>	 wow!
[19:33:22] <level11>	 ottomata: that is very nice
[19:33:24] <superm401>	 milimetric, rfarrand is there a way to embed with an <iframe>-like approach
[19:33:26] <superm401>	 ?
[19:33:47] <rfarrand>	 superm401: will ask
[19:35:07] <superm401>	 Thanks
[19:35:47] <ottomata>	 level11: credit goes to YuviPanda
[19:35:47] <ottomata>	 :)
[19:36:10] <level11>	 ottomata: yes, I see https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-quarry-web -- will this be announced?
[19:36:11] <superm401>	 I don't know if people are going to want to copy all the HTML/JS/CSS in order to embed one particular graph on e.g. a blog post.
[19:36:15] <YuviPanda>	 level11: hey! :)
[19:36:25] <YuviPanda>	 level11: I've been meaning to put out an email to the lists, but keep getting sidetracked
[19:36:39] <YuviPanda>	 level11: note that this isn't a 'WMF project' (despite the fact that I work for the WMF) - mostly just me as a volunteer :)
[19:36:58] <superm401>	 There are some solutions for logging errors, which shouldn't necessarily require CORS.
[19:36:59] <YuviPanda>	 level11: I should email out soon...
[19:37:05] <level11>	 YuviPanda: the pleasure of knowing about it is somewhat lessened by the "why was I not informed?!?" feeling ;-)
[19:37:13] <YuviPanda>	 level11: :D
[19:37:22] <rfarrand>	 questions?
[19:37:39] <YuviPanda>	 level11: I'll add templating + graphing support to it at some point, though...
[19:38:15] <superm401>	 But maybe the HTML is simpler than I think.
[19:38:43] <superm401>	 And for the JS/CSS, maybe it could use a CDN?
[19:39:25] <level11>	 YuviPanda: some useful data dictionary docs easily accessable from it would be even better, anyone can export to a spreadsheet until all the graph infrastructure is firmed up
[19:39:46] <YuviPanda>	 level11: what do you mean by 'data dictionary' in this context?
[19:39:56] <YuviPanda>	 all other people's queries are listed at http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/runs/all
[19:40:14] <level11>	 YuviPanda: like, I'm trying to remember the SQL for the number to incoming links to articles (because it correlates with pageviews)
[19:40:24] <YuviPanda>	 level11: aaah, right.
[19:40:35] <YuviPanda>	 in the *glorious* future we'll have some form of quering pageview data as well, but not yet...
[19:40:54] <level11>	 woot
[19:41:16] <YuviPanda>	 level11: anyway, my immediate fixes to quarry would just be minor UX issues...
[19:41:48] <superm401>	 level11, maybe not the exact format you want, but the main docs are at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout
[19:41:58] <level11>	 thanks!
[19:42:18] <superm401>	 No problem. :)
[19:42:28] <YuviPanda>	 level11: please try it out and report bugs / feature requests! link at bottom of footer
[19:43:37] <level11>	 ok! pagelinks is pl_from by the way