[16:56:52] just like it is OK to have a Website about your product or company, you shoul also have your little knowledge graph about your company, described in schema.org [16:56:56] dennyvrandecic: If I remember it right, YouTube uses content of Wikipedia without attribution. Could you communicate that internally? [16:57:24] sjoerddebruin: that would be bad. my email ist my last name at google dot com. please send me info on that and I will look into it [16:57:36] dennyvrandecic: that SEO point has to be made clear from Google's side as well, not only on Wikidata [16:57:49] Will do. [16:57:57] benestar: the main difference between Wikidata and Freebase for Google is that we trusted Freebase, it was our core of the KG [16:58:18] benestar: Wikidata on the other hand is just one source among many [16:58:31] (but a good one ;-)) [16:58:33] benestar: yes, we say that wherever we are asked :) [16:59:01] ok, this will prevent some SEO spam on wikidata I hope [16:59:16] pfps: the difference in number is mostly a difference in counting and notability [16:59:24] yeah if it is in the FAQ that'd be really helpful to be able to point people to it [16:59:43] pfps: especially the difference in "fact count" is ... grossly exagerrating [16:59:47] incredibly grossly [17:00:41] the item count is partly based on differences in ontology, i.e. in what counts [17:01:13] alright. more pressing questions? or should we hand over to Jianhui67 for the discussion about admin activity? [17:01:25] thanks folks for your questions! [17:01:29] good [17:01:39] dennyvrandecic: thank you for your work [17:01:45] right, i think we should close the RFC [17:02:55] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Reforming_administrator_inactivity_criteria is the RfC in question [17:03:45] we may be losing one oversighter anyway [17:03:58] if does not do 5 more admin actions on time [17:04:27] he is SPQRobin. if he really loses access, then we have no european coverage [17:05:05] That will be bad. [17:05:52] Lydia_WMDE: could you tell us more about the arbitrary access development? you know, I am really looking forward to having it launched [17:06:25] my first question would be if there is a tool to measure admin actions? [17:06:31] well, can we have someone not involved to do the closing today [17:06:38] matej_suchanek [17:06:49] matej_suchanek: usage tracking is a requirement for it. so this means knowing which data is used where. we're currently running into issues there with multilingual wikis and caching. i hope we can fix this soon and have it rolled out on the first projects. [17:07:31] Romaine: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Cyberpower678/ActiveStats ? [17:07:41] sorry, missing courage for it :( [17:08:03] Romaine [17:08:44] benestar, i think you are not involved in the rfc as well [17:09:19] Jianhui67: sry, was afk [17:09:22] which RFC? [17:09:29] 1:02:57 AM https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Reforming_administrator_inactivity_criteria is the RfC in question [17:09:33] ty [17:09:55] * Romaine has to go now [17:09:59] btw, I'm also uninvolved but this RFC is too confusing for me [17:10:44] indeed... [17:10:48] so the results will be 5 admin/crat actions over 6 months, no reprieve and no regaining [17:10:54] right? [17:10:59] yea [17:11:53] added to the Freebase FAQ, hoo: Lydia_WMDE: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:FAQ/Freebase#By_adding_to_Wikidata.2C_I_have_a_free_ticket_into_Google.27s_Knowledge_Graph.2C_right.3F [17:12:02] we should ask cyberpower to rewrite his script as well [17:12:31] I don't think he responds. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Cyberpower678/ActiveStats [17:12:34] Ehm [17:12:34] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cyberpower678 [17:12:49] dennyvrandecic: Nice! :) [17:13:51] i'll let someone else add the translation tags, they seriously confuse me every time [17:13:51] if he's here in IRC I will ping him [17:14:36] dennyvrandecic: will do [17:15:01] dennyvrandecic: do you have a URL for Wikidata translation tags? [17:15:26] Scott_WUaS: https://github.com/googleknowledge/qlabel [17:15:32] Jianhui67: here you go ;) [17:15:37] Thanks ") [17:15:40] Scott_WUaS: or better, http://googleknowledge.github.io/qlabel/ [17:15:50] can you handle the archiving thing etc? [17:15:59] Great! [17:16:03] \o/ [17:16:05] thanks benestar [17:16:07] have to go now and wont come online this week again perhaps :/ [17:16:14] or only from mobile ;) [17:16:20] why? school? [17:16:28] vacation :P [17:16:49] sweet [17:16:55] anything else we should discuss today? [17:17:03] Will we get new merch? [17:17:04] benestar: bye :) [17:17:06] dennyvrandecic: (WUaS could help with this eventually - planned for Wikipedia's 288 languages +) [17:17:07] so have fun with the new rfc and cya [17:17:09] Like the Wikidata onesie? [17:17:17] * closed rfc [17:17:19] sjoerddebruin: hihi. i'll add the onsie to the wish list [17:17:20] :P [17:17:33] other suggestions for new merch? [17:18:00] Scott_WUaS: sure, qlabel uses linked open data standards, so works out of the box with anything that implements that [17:18:45] if there's nothing else we can wrap this up for today [17:18:49] thanks so much for coming everyone [17:18:53] this was fun :) [17:18:57] thanks everyone! [17:19:07] Great ... qLabel which you wrote is great too ... WUaS (but it wouldn't be me) isn't quite there to help with this ... but let's stay in touch about this [17:19:33] dennyvrandecic and Lydia and everyone: Thank you! [17:19:36] matej_suchanek: you have the honor of closing :D [17:19:50] okay thank you all [17:19:53] #endmeeting [17:19:54] Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 17:19:53 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [17:19:54] Minutes: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-03-31-16.00.html [17:19:54] Minutes (text): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-03-31-16.00.txt [17:19:54] Minutes (wiki): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-03-31-16.00.wiki [17:19:54] Log: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-03-31-16.00.log.html [17:20:00] purfect! [17:20:10] bye lol [17:20:12] i'll send a link to the log to the mailing list [17:20:15] no webservice <3 [17:20:23] sjoerddebruin: ? [17:20:32] The URI you have requested, /meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-03-31-16.00.log.html, is not currently serviced. [17:20:38] uhhhh [17:20:46] Lydia_WMDE: labs outage, nobody yet restarted that one [17:20:51] i see [17:21:03] let's hope the text is not lost then [17:21:12] i'll have it worst case [17:21:57] jan poked about restarting it :) [17:22:30] matej_suchanek: thanks for your help! [17:22:43] welcome [17:22:50] anything for Wikidata :) [17:22:56] :D [17:26:16] sjoerddebruin: meetbot webservice is up again [17:26:30] meep meep [17:26:52] FYI, i updated the changes on WD:A [17:27:07] text is also available, puh [17:27:52] ;-) [17:27:54] all good